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2-month doping suspension for doubles specialist Marcelo Melo

shotgun
09-24-2007, 06:55 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/news;_ylt=ApMBZLUO0zJD49pXQ9QKpKI4v7YF?slug=ap-doping-melo&prov=ap&type=lgns

Brazilian tennis player Marcelo Melo gets 2-month doping ban

September 24, 2007

LONDON (AP) -- Brazilian tennis player Marcelo Melo was banned for two months Monday for a doping violation.

The doubles specialist tested positive for the stimulant isometheptene June 10 at the Wimbledon warmup tournament at Queen's Club, the International Tennis Federation said.

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The ban was reduced from the usual two years because Melo did not take the substance to "enhance his sporting performance," the ITF said. The suspension was backdated to Sept. 10 and will end Nov. 9.

Melo will forfeit prize money and ranking points earned at Queen's Club and the U.S. Open. The ITF said the Brazilian will retain his results from tournaments between those two because he did not know about the positive test until just before the U.S. Open.

He reached the doubles quarterfinals at the U.S. Open with Andre Sa. Melo and Sa made the semifinals at Wimbledon.

Lee
09-24-2007, 06:57 PM
Why the substance gets into his system and would Sá keep his money and points?

shotgun
09-24-2007, 07:04 PM
It was on a medicine for headache (Neosaldina, a very popular medicine here in Brazil) he took the night before his match in round 3 of singles qualifying.

Sá gets to keep his prize money and ranking points.

Sounds like a dumb move by Marcelo but hopefully he learnt his lesson.

Lee
09-24-2007, 07:07 PM
Real dumb. :retard:

zadle69
09-24-2007, 07:08 PM
stupid i guess the headache must have been that bad.

alfonsojose
09-24-2007, 07:11 PM
In this case, what he should have done? :consufed: Take the medicine but contact the tournament doctor 'coz it was an emergency? ask for a doctor?

Lee
09-24-2007, 07:18 PM
In this case, what he should have done? :consufed: Take the medicine but contact the tournament doctor 'coz it was an emergency? ask for a doctor?

Ask for a medicine that doesn't contain banned substance.

fmolinari2005
09-24-2007, 07:53 PM
I would like to know how they come to the conclusion that Melo didnt take this drug to enhance his performance. Maybe it is because he was caught only once?! I dont see the reason being only "Melo told us he had a headache so he took the medication without knowing it had a banned substance".

And, if it was an honest mistake, Marcelo deserves to be banned for "lack of gray matter". Come on: it is not the first time a player is banned for taking a drug he/she didnt "know" it was banned. It is not as if he never heard people getting in trouble for taking OTC medication to treat simple things as upper away infections. If you are an athlete, you gotta ask the doctor before taking any medication.

shotgun
09-24-2007, 08:13 PM
I would like to know how they come to the conclusion that Melo didnt take this drug to enhance his performance. Maybe it is because he was caught only once?! I dont see the reason being only "Melo told us he had a headache so he took the medication without knowing it had a banned substance".

And, if it was an honest mistake, Marcelo deserves to be banned for "lack of gray matter". Come on: it is not the first time a player is banned for taking a drug he/she didnt "know" it was banned. It is not as if he never heard people getting in trouble for taking OTC medication to treat simple things as upper away infections. If you are an athlete, you gotta ask the doctor before taking any medication.

They probably concluded that the drug was found in such a small dosis that it wasn't enough to enhance his performance in the match. I doubt he would have been let off that lighty if it actually did.

Lee
09-24-2007, 08:14 PM
Probably needs the entire report to be published to find out all the answers.

TankingTheSet
09-24-2007, 08:30 PM
Finding out the exact ingredients of medicines and knowing the list of all thousands of banned substances requires requires specialist knowledge and analysis. If you need a medicine due to sickness on short notice it is extremely hard to know for sure that there isn't a banned substance in it unless it's a known-safe medication.

fmolinari2005
09-24-2007, 08:35 PM
They probably concluded that the drug was found in such a small dosis that it wasn't enough to enhance his performance in the match. I doubt he would have been let off that lighty if it actually did.


But that is the thing that doesnt make sense: if it was beneath the dosage required to enhance his performance, why would it be considered doping?! Specially a drug that is found in OTC medication . Ok. Before I start talking out of my ass, I will read about it on the WADA site. I just thought that, for some drugs, there would be a minimum dosis level detectable for it to be considered doping.

sodman12
09-24-2007, 08:37 PM
I'm sure theres a data base and it would take about .0001 sec to search though something like that. But maybe not.

fmolinari2005
09-24-2007, 08:47 PM
Finding out the exact ingredients of medicines and knowing the list of all thousands of banned substances requires requires specialist knowledge and analysis. If you need a medicine due to sickness on short notice it is extremely hard to know for sure that there isn't a banned substance in it unless it's a known-safe medication.


However, unless he was suffering from a severe case of migraine (who usually requires IV drugs, therefore, requiring a physician to prescribe the drug), odds are that his judgement was preserved and he could had made the smart decision of asking a doctor (if I am not mistaken, most tournaments have local doctors working) about which medication he could take. I mean: if a headache is severe enough for the pain cloud your judgement, it wont probably subside by oral medication.

We are talking about athletes. It is sort of part of their job description knowing that they cant take any medication without caring about doping. I just dont buy this "I didnt know" excuse. To the very least, it is lack of professionalism.

TankingTheSet
09-24-2007, 09:06 PM
Even most doctors don't have a clue about what exact substances are in medicines are what the banned substances are. ATP doctors have given medicines with banned substances to many, many players (I think only about 30 of these cases have been publicized). In most cases players have been quietly acquitted or the knowledge of the positive hasn't been published. In Canas' case he wasn't acquitted and he paid dearly for it.

Lee
09-24-2007, 09:11 PM
Even most doctors don't have a clue about what exact substances are in medicines are what the banned substances are. ATP doctors have given medicines with banned substances to many, many players (I think only about 30 of these cases have been publicized). In most cases players have been quietly acquitted or the knowledge of the positive hasn't been published. In Canas' case he wasn't acquitted and he paid dearly for it.

I think that's ATP trainers gave suppliments that's contaminated.

Anyway, it's obvious that the medicine that Melo took was not a prescription but over the counter. For a professional athlete, he should know better to check the ingredients and if he could not find the information, he should have never taken it. Especially during a tournament.

fmolinari2005
09-24-2007, 09:19 PM
Even most doctors don't have a clue about what exact substances are in medicines are what the banned substances are. ATP doctors have given medicines with banned substances to many, many players (I think only about 30 of these cases have been publicized). In most cases players have been quietly acquitted or the knowledge of the positive hasn't been published. In Canas' case he wasn't acquitted and he paid dearly for it.

That is why there is a medical specialty (at least in Brazil) called sports medicine. An athlete should always work with them, even if seeking attention from doctors with different specialities. And always make sure to their physicians that they are athletes.

About the ATP doctors: I dont know much about those cases. But, if I am to believe in ATP's innocence, I must say that to the very least they hired some laim doctors. But, I am afraid this explanation is the less plausible one.

Cañas: from what I understood, it wasnt the doctor that prescribed a wrong medication. The problem happened with people mixing up his prescription with his coache's .This made Willy take hydroclortiazide (it seems that his coach suffers from high blood pressure) instead of the doctor's originally prescribed drug (treatment of flu I think). Cañas mistake was taking a medication without reading the bottle.

TankingTheSet
09-24-2007, 09:26 PM
Thanks for the clarification.

I general I am rather skeptical of the anti-doping lobby and anti-doping industry, they and the media tend to paint a black and white picture of doping tests being 100% reliable and absolute proof of wrongdoing, while the truth is far more complex than that. Many athletes, cyclists have seen their careers and lives ruined because of doping positives that were not intentional cases of doping to enhance performance. The media and sports organizations have generally had a name and shame attitude for all sportsmen that had doping test positives.

alfonsojose
09-24-2007, 09:44 PM
Ask for a medicine that doesn't contain banned substance.

But if there isn't another medication available? from what i've heard he could take the medicine and report he ingested it ASAP. If the person is unconscious, for example, nobody would ask :shrug:

barbadosan
09-24-2007, 10:54 PM
If it's a regular kind of headache medicine used in a country, you could see where he might not even have given it a second thought. How many athletes you think check all the ingredients in Panadol (I get the impression that he medicine in question may be as popular as Panadol or Whizz is elsewhere?)

Lee
09-24-2007, 10:59 PM
If it's a regular kind of headache medicine used in a country, you could see where he might not even have given it a second thought. How many athletes you think check all the ingredients in Panadol (I get the impression that he medicine in question may be as popular as Panadol or Whizz is elsewhere?)

I checked everything I put into my body. And I am not a professional athlete. :tape:

ATP players had a list of all banned substances, it's their responsibility to check if any of those substances are on anything they put into their bodies.

CyBorg
09-24-2007, 11:02 PM
In other words he's innocent but they suspended him anyway. Good going, folks.

Lee
09-24-2007, 11:08 PM
In other words he's innocent but they suspended him anyway. Good going, folks.

He's innocent but he's suspended because of his ignorance and stupidity?

CyBorg
09-24-2007, 11:22 PM
He's innocent but he's suspended because of his ignorance and stupidity?

If only I were to dig up all the stupid things I've done in my life. It'd be enough to send me to the guillotine.

Motive is what matters. Motive.

GlennMirnyi
09-25-2007, 02:16 AM
Stupid move by Marcelo, who's a really nice guy. He'll learn the lesson, for sure, and come back strong.

fmolinari2005
09-25-2007, 02:25 AM
Stupid move by Marcelo, who's a really nice guy. He'll learn the lesson, for sure, and come back strong.


He even admited that the penalty is fair because he made a silly mistake indeed.

Note after edit: at least he didnt blame it on his wife slipping him a different pill when he wasnt looking, or aliens probing him with steroid coated suppositories when he was abducted ...

I remember seeing him giving an interview during the USO, and he remarked me of being a nice kid indeed.

GlennMirnyi
09-25-2007, 02:40 AM
He even admited that the penalty is fair because he made a silly mistake indeed.

Note after edit: at least he didnt blame it on his wife slipping him a different pill when he wasnt looking, or aliens probing him with steroid coated suppositories when he was abducted ...

I remember seeing him giving an interview during the USO, and he remarked me of being a nice kid indeed.

Well, it's not like his substance was heavy or anything. ;)

fmolinari2005
09-25-2007, 02:44 AM
Well, it's not like his substance was heavy or anything. ;)

It is all Sá's fault. Melo said he wasnt in a mood and he had a headache, but Sá kept pushing him ... ;) :lol:

TennisShoulder
09-25-2007, 03:08 AM
Melo was a great character when he played with Sa at Wimbledon. I hope he manages to clear his name.

GlennMirnyi
09-25-2007, 03:23 AM
It is all Sá's fault. Melo said he wasnt in a mood and he had a headache, but Sá kept pushing him ... ;) :lol:

:haha: :haha: :haha:

Action Jackson
09-25-2007, 04:28 AM
If only I were to dig up all the stupid things I've done in my life. It'd be enough to send me to the guillotine.

Motive is what matters. Motive.

Same thing as El Fashionista Koubek.

Where is Jogy wanting Melo to hung up by his balls.

World Beater
09-25-2007, 04:56 AM
Where is Jogy wanting Melo to hung up by his balls.

giving a speech at Columbia university

barbadosan
09-25-2007, 05:36 AM
Where is Jogy wanting Melo to hung up by his balls.

Maybe lost in the outback - for good!

Action Jackson
09-25-2007, 05:41 AM
giving a speech at Columbia university

The drug squad of Jogy, Flava and some others are notable by their absence and I didn't know he could speak Persian.

World Beater
09-25-2007, 05:56 AM
The drug squad of Jogy, Flava and some others are notable by their absence and I didn't know he could speak Persian.

its one of his many talents along with being a homophobe, a doper hater and a troll.