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Kuerten def. Federer 6-4 6-4 6-4

BmxBandit
05-29-2004, 02:15 PM
:) :)

Well done!

Billabong
05-29-2004, 02:18 PM
GUGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Well done :woohoo:!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He did it he did it he did it!!!!!!!!:bounce::bounce::bounce:!!!!!!!!!!

Guille's Girl
05-29-2004, 02:19 PM
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! ! :clap2: GO GUGA! :bounce: GO GUGA!!!!!!! :clap2: GO GUGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bounce:

ytben
05-29-2004, 02:20 PM
Congrats to Guga on a great win :worship:

Rogi :sad:, but a great clay season still. Now time to go practice for the grass season.

Vass
05-29-2004, 02:21 PM
Thank you Guga! I knew you were gonna kick his ass!
So much for the unbeatable Fed.

Neely
05-29-2004, 02:21 PM
can't say how big this win was for Guga! OMG :bounce: :)

Congrats, Guga! ;) :)

that was really AWESOME!!

Roger found his master today....

TheBoiledEgg
05-29-2004, 02:23 PM
from the start u could see Guga was killing Roger on the BH side and just about matching him on the FH

PinkFeatherBoa
05-29-2004, 02:24 PM
I'm so happy for Guga....well done on your win! :worship:

COMA
05-29-2004, 02:24 PM
Rogi :bigcry:

Well done GUGA anyway :yeah:

BmxBandit
05-29-2004, 02:24 PM
Look how happy he is.

SaFed2005
05-29-2004, 02:25 PM
Great win for Guga... Congratz!!!

Shy
05-29-2004, 02:26 PM
It 's been awhile since we have seen the smile.

amethyst
05-29-2004, 02:28 PM
Guga!!!!!!!!!!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: Guga played great and Roger broke down mentally at some point in the third set because he found no way to put Guga under pressure.

Domino
05-29-2004, 02:29 PM
This is good, though I support Roger, I secretely wanted Kuerten to win, because I would love to see a Coria-Kuerten final at RG!

Lady
05-29-2004, 02:30 PM
I an surprised! :eek:

And it's so unfortunate, that all well playing clay courtes (Robredo, Coria, Moya) are in the same quarter. :sad:

Conchon
05-29-2004, 02:31 PM
:woohoo:

Billabong
05-29-2004, 02:33 PM
OMG guys I'm still in shock, this is UNBELIEVABLE:eek:!!! I'm SO happy, you can't imagine:D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dirk
05-29-2004, 02:34 PM
Nobody said he was unbeatable Vass but you know Roger is more unbeatable than that meathead Marat. Roger also cares a lot more about his career than Marat ever will. Roger will learn from this loss oh yeah that is something else Marat doesn't do... LEARN.

tall_one
05-29-2004, 02:39 PM
Congrats Guga!!!!

http://www.wtv-zone.com/hope4linda/birthday/Ban_Gang.gif

Deboogle!.
05-29-2004, 02:40 PM
GUGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i JUST woke up 2 minutes ago and went to the scoreboard and saw the score and said NO this can't be.... so I came right here

oh Guga this is so great for you!!!!

Guille's Girl
05-29-2004, 02:41 PM
I know Billabong!!!! Dude, if everyone wasn't asleep right now, I'd be running through my house screaming my head off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

moonlight
05-29-2004, 02:41 PM
Congratulations GUGA :worship:

Continue your superb play! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Roger :hug: :sad: better luck next time.

lsy
05-29-2004, 02:41 PM
Well done Guga. It must have been a great performance from him

Hopefully Rogi learn something out of this match.

dubis016
05-29-2004, 02:41 PM
CONGRATS GUGA!!

oxy
05-29-2004, 02:48 PM
OMG....Guga.....woohoo...:bigclap: love u...:smooch:

star
05-29-2004, 02:53 PM
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User ID 4783
05-29-2004, 02:56 PM
I'm really happy for Guga, he deserves that win! RG is HIS tournament

Lisbeth
05-29-2004, 02:58 PM
Congratulations to Guga! Just goes to show, one should never, ever underestimate a champion!

Deboogle!.
05-29-2004, 02:59 PM
http://www.cavazzoli.it/forum/images/smilies/phearts.gif

awwww that's so cute!!!

As soon as I saw the result, star, after I realized that it was really true and not a cruel joke, my first thought was "omg Christina will be over the moon!!!!"

star
05-29-2004, 03:00 PM
And she WAS!!!

star
05-29-2004, 03:03 PM
I know Billabong!!!! Dude, if everyone wasn't asleep right now, I'd be running through my house screaming my head off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Deboogle!.
05-29-2004, 03:04 PM
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star
05-29-2004, 03:04 PM
:D

Neely
05-29-2004, 03:07 PM
RG must be magic for Guga... just think of his match against Almagro, he was already out and came back, he saved match points on his ways to his three French Open title, he had so many great matches there, that's just awesome.

I'm honest, I didn't consider him at all as a favorite or as a contender for another Roland Garros crown before the tournament. His form was just too bad and his season was too injury-riddled, but he came back big time at his favorite place on his favorite court!

Yonge
05-29-2004, 03:07 PM
Wow, I didn't expect it to go 3 sets only. Good Job Guga! :worship:

Deboogle!.
05-29-2004, 03:10 PM
http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/ROG139052909_1024x768.jpg

Kuerten Upsets Federer at French Open

1 minute ago

By STEVEN WINE, AP Sports Writer

PARIS - Inspired by the familiar chants of "Guga! Guga!" at Roland Garros, three-time champion Gustavo Kuerten upset top-ranked Roger Federer 6-4, 6-4, 6-4 Saturday in the third round of the French Open.


Kuerten has been slowed lately by a sore right hip that required arthroscopic surgery in 2001. But Guga — his nickname — played like the Kuerten of old, breaking serve twice for an early 2-1 lead and holding his final 14 service games without facing a break point.


The result delighted the crowd on center court, where Kuerten has been a fan favorite since winning his first French Open title in 1997 when he was 20 and unseeded.


"It's been a love story since the beginning," the Brazilian said. "I came here in bad shape, playing bad. But every time I go on the court, it seems something special happens with the love and passion I have for the tournament. That brings the best out in me."


It was another disappointing French Open result for Federer, the reigning Wimbledon (news - web sites) and Australian Open (news - web sites) champion. He lost in the opening round at Roland Garros each of the past two years.


Kuerten, seeded 28th, advanced to the round of 16 for the sixth year in a row.


"This tournament every year makes me go over my limit," Kuerten said. "It's amazing to beat the No. 1 in the world, a guy who's playing great tennis."

Bubble
05-29-2004, 03:12 PM
:bounce:

Well done Guga :)

Cris
05-29-2004, 03:15 PM
Great win Guga! :banana: Congrats! :D

RogiFan88
05-29-2004, 03:20 PM
Congratulations, Guga! Looks like you are back to your sublime RG level again! Keep going! Nothing Rogi could do to stop the flow today... Guga does it again... he has a way of frustrating the best in HIS home court.

I knew Rogi w not win -- my feelings were right.

Guga can take out Feli next...

star
05-29-2004, 03:22 PM
Court Chatrier should be renamed! ;)

Billabong
05-29-2004, 03:24 PM
Guga that was AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for the article :worship:! The tennis gods are with us:D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep up the great play Guga:banana:!!!!!!!

Carito_90
05-29-2004, 03:24 PM
OMG i LOVE this guy! :banana:

I woke up and i was still asleepy and i was wondering whether i should turn on the tv to see which match was on or just... keep on sleeping lol
I decided to turn on the tv and the first thing i heard was the commentator saying 'he is only 4 points away from the 4th round' and I was like 'OMG tell me who, tell me who!!' and then i saw the score and I was like 'OH MY GOD YOU'RE DA MAN GUGA!' lol When he won i thought i was gonna cry, i was sooo glad!

:worship: Guga! I hope this is THE comeback! :worship:

Fostin
05-29-2004, 03:35 PM
I`m sooooooooooooooooo happy 1st 4 GUGA AND THEN 4 GUILLE NOW HE HAS MORE POSIBILITIES!!! :) :p

Aleksa's Laydee
05-29-2004, 03:46 PM
OMG WHAT A WIN

i am soooooooo happy :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bigclap: :bigclap: :bigclap: :yippee: :yippee: :yippee: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

LCeh
05-29-2004, 03:56 PM
Not surprised at all. This is the 3-time RG champion after all, and apart from the first round, Roger hasn't been playing at his top level.

Hopefully he can use this coming week as rest and train for grass season, where he has tons of points to defend... :rolleyes: :sad:

Billabong
05-29-2004, 04:05 PM
I can't wait to see PMac's reaction, he thought Guga would be out against Almagro in the first round;)!

gillian
05-29-2004, 04:07 PM
I just saw the score on rolandgarros.com. That's just stunning. Guga didn't just beat Roger, he whipped him. Wonder what happened to Roger. He's seemed pretty unstoppable to me this year.

Good win, for Guga, though. He gets the winner of Feliciano Lopez/Hyung-Taik Lee in the next round. Lopez is up a set. Should be interesting.

G

heya
05-29-2004, 04:17 PM
:kiss:Unstoppable Guga kisses :hearts:

little duck
05-29-2004, 04:20 PM
You could just see this result happening, I'm surprised that so many found this unlikely. For Roger it was only third round, while for Kuerten it was much more. He rembered all his titles and matches he played and couldn't miss a shot when it mattered the most. Federer from the other side has no real clue how to play against Kuerten, because he played only twice against him and first time when Kuerten was for nothing.

So all of this didn't surprise me at all. I rooted for Roger because I hoped he could win all four slams this season, but otherwise he is not a real clay-cort player. He is a guest on Roland Garros.

Now, good luck Roger on Wibledon, and good luck to Nalbadian here and on US Open!

Carito_90
05-29-2004, 04:22 PM
Excuse me...

Special edition of Did you know?

Tennis players don't marry because Love means Nothing to them.


OMFG LCeh!! :bigcry: :bigcry: You're just too damn good :bigcry:


Thank you :)

Leo
05-29-2004, 04:23 PM
Congrats Guga! You just own this tournament, don't ya? :D

Now I'm sure the entire top half is relieved.

YoursTruly
05-29-2004, 04:25 PM
Wow, like I said earlier, it's such a surprise but at the same time, it's not a surprise because Guga is a two-time French Open champ! :D And Pat McEnroe said (more like SWORE) before Guga was to play his 1st round match that he was going to be upset by that Spanish guy! HA! Take that, Pat McEnroe!!! :tape:
A big disappointment for Roger who had high hopes and was up there with Coria. So now Coria is probably proclaimed as the winner if he just plays right? I don't know because Guga is making a statement and there's still my Carlos ;) as well. Interesting stuff!

Billabong
05-29-2004, 04:25 PM
Wow, like I said earlier, it's such a surprise but at the same time, it's not a surprise because Guga is a two-time French Open champ! :D And Pat McEnroe said (more like SWORE) before Guga was to play his 1st round match that he was going to be upset by that Spanish guy! HA! Take that, Pat McEnroe!!! :tape:
A big disappointment for Roger who had high hopes and was up there with Coria. So now Coria is probably proclaimed as the winner if he just plays right? I don't know because Guga is making a statement and there's still my Carlos ;) as well. Interesting stuff!

Guga is a THREE time champion;)!

YoursTruly
05-29-2004, 04:27 PM
Yeah I know! How could I forget!!! Maybe it's because I was outside in the sun all morning! :)

trixy
05-29-2004, 04:41 PM
OMG i just got home and i heard the news yay!! I'm hoping for a Guga vs Carlos final now!

natalie
05-29-2004, 05:02 PM
congrats guga!! keep going!

YoursTruly
05-29-2004, 05:03 PM
OMG i just got home and i heard the news yay!! I'm hoping for a Guga vs Carlos final now!

Oh you're so sweet :D ;)

I'm happy for Guga but GO MI PAPITO CARRRRRLOS!!!!!!

Mr. Man
05-29-2004, 05:46 PM
Well done, Guga! :banana:

Gonzo Hates Me!
05-29-2004, 05:50 PM
Very proud of my honey!!

tangerine_dream
05-29-2004, 05:51 PM
I wonder if all the players will take that Guga match home with them on video and committ to memory what Guga did to beat Roger? ;)

Congrats to Guga, that is just wonderful :rocker2:

And Roger, no problem! You made it past the first round this year and went to third. Something to celebrate :dance:

Yashirobai
05-29-2004, 06:01 PM
That's great. No Federer-Coria final in RG now. That's great. Good job Gustavo. Let's see what will Feliciano do against him in next round.

star
05-29-2004, 06:32 PM
I wonder if all the players will take that Guga match home with them on video and committ to memory what Guga did to beat Roger? ;)

Congrats to Guga, that is just wonderful :rocker2:

And Roger, no problem! You made it past the first round this year and went to third. Something to celebrate :dance:

It's going to be tough to do. Guga's backhand is a far sight better than Roger's backhand and there aren't too many players who have that advantage. From all reports Guga played magnificently. Roger has a lot to say in his press conference. :)

BaselineSmash
05-29-2004, 06:49 PM
Massive claycourt tennis from Kuerten. Very refreshing winners-based points as opposed to interminable baseline rallies. Not sure about his motivation for the rest of the tournament, though...

And of Federer? :haha: He tries to go topspin backhand to top spin backhand with the Kuerten and wonders why he lost? It's time for him to wise up and get his head round the fact that he can't expect to outhit every guy around from the baseline. He should watch the tape of their Hamburg match in '02 and remember how to hit a backhand slice. Sure, Guga was recovering form injury, wasn't at his best etc. etc. but he just couldn't live with Federer's consistent slicing. It's a tactic that Henman has found very effective against the Brazilian in the past, and I can scarcely fathom why there was hardly any evidence of Federer even trying to employ it in an offensive fashion; he did get the chance to throw in some really bad floating defensive slices though, which Guga lapped up.

Good show for the three-times champion. A no show from Federer.

Dirk
05-29-2004, 07:03 PM
I posted his interview in his forum. He gave Guga all the credit in the world. He didn't even go into his problems out of respect for Guga. Only answering the returning and movment questions which they asked him directly about. Roger will always have Paris if he can remain healthy. I sure do hope Guga wins the event. I can't see Lopez giving him trouble. I just hope they put the rest of Guga's match on Center Court.

Havok
05-29-2004, 09:21 PM
:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

Chloe le Bopper
05-29-2004, 09:57 PM
I posted his interview in his forum. He gave Guga all the credit in the world. He didn't even go into his problems out of respect for Guga. Only answering the returning and movment questions which they asked him directly about. Roger will always have Paris if he can remain healthy. I sure do hope Guga wins the event. I can't see Lopez giving him trouble. I just hope they put the rest of Guga's match on Center Court.
As opposed to court 3 where they've been sticking him :( I'm not even a Guga fan and I didn't like that one bit

Chloe le Bopper
05-29-2004, 10:03 PM
Nobody said he was unbeatable Vass but you know Roger is more unbeatable than that meathead Marat. Roger also cares a lot more about his career than Marat ever will. Roger will learn from this loss oh yeah that is something else Marat doesn't do... LEARN.
What are you talking about? Marat has mastered the art of strategic injury timeouts. He's clearly learned this tactic from somewhere. Perhaps he's been practicing with Coria?

faboozadoo15
05-29-2004, 10:05 PM
sad for rogi... but i'm happy for guga who i can only assume just outplayed the dominant world #1. props to him for sure!
take the title now, guga!

RogiFan88
05-29-2004, 10:08 PM
What are you talking about? Marat has mastered the art of strategic injury timeouts. He's clearly learned this tactic from somewhere. Perhaps he's been practicing with Coria?


:devil:

Sorry, but I have to love Maratski...

J. Corwin
05-29-2004, 10:08 PM
I'm not suprised by this result one bit. I had a feeling he would win. Fed is just not good enough on clay and Guga has been playing really well the last couple of rounds.

BaselineSmash
05-29-2004, 10:09 PM
As opposed to court 3 where they've been sticking him :( I'm not even a Guga fan and I didn't like that one bit

I wonder how Nalbandian feels about being similarly treated this first week.

RogiFan88
05-29-2004, 10:14 PM
Guga s easily win over Feli. If he plays the way he did today, no problema:

GUSTAVO KUERTEN: Yeah, it's like I said, I think tactically I really played perfect from the beginning to the end. I could see just in the first game when I got the break early on, and I was not let him play that comfortable at all. I find a rhythm in my serve that was perfect, you know. Sometimes you start to serve, playing the points, you feel that it become more and more natural. That's not easy to find, but today I was feeling like this. I was having the mixing up of my serves in the right time. I was going every time a different direction, work with different angles in my serve.
I was playing with a lot of consistent, too. I didn't made too much unforced errors, didn't give him too much free points. And for me was the way I was like -- I put in my mind I have to play like this. Maybe is not the way I like to play all the time. Sometimes I have to play a little more safe than I used to. But I think tactic was probably the main difference in this game, the way I could find a way to play him and neutralize a little bit his weapons.

Sounds like he was simply perfect out there!

Sjengster
05-29-2004, 10:25 PM
I only saw the Hamburg match from early on in the final set so I don't remember much slicing and dicing from Federer, but if it worked there he really should use it again playing Kuerten. His normal topspin backhand is weak enough in a lot of rallies on clay against lesser opponents, today against the class single-hander on the other side of the net it was an embarrassment, he just loops it over the net and often mishits it short. If you look at Federer's two clay losses this year they've hardly been to poor opponents, in fact to two of the last three RG champions, but it's the way he's lost that's worrying, he just hasn't been able to impose himself on his opponent from the baseline. He definitely didn't adjust to the conditions on Chatrier, he was slipping all over the place, while it is of course Kuerten's backyard and it showed.

RogiFan88
05-29-2004, 10:27 PM
As I keep saying, Rogi needs a solid clay strategy... does anyone do his scouting for him these days???

Deboogle!.
05-29-2004, 10:29 PM
I wonder how Nalbandian feels about being similarly treated this first week.

Nalbandian is not a 3-time champion :o

Mrs. B
05-29-2004, 10:46 PM
As I keep saying, Rogi needs a solid clay strategy... does anyone do his scouting for him these days???

Roger played well in Hamburg, beating Coria for that clay title, and
i'm sure there are people in his circle who are doing some scouting for him. maybe getting a coach won't be a bad idea either...

LCeh
05-29-2004, 10:48 PM
Well, a reporter asked if he thought it had something to do with the fact that he doesn't have a coach, but he said no. I don't really believe him though. I think he needs to get a coach. I didn't get to watch the match, but from what others said, he clearly had some tactical problems.

RogiFan88
05-29-2004, 10:54 PM
for sure, Rogi will get a coach at some point... perhaps sooner rather than later!

Santorofan
05-29-2004, 11:38 PM
Para benz Guga, you deserve it!!

Roger you have many years ahead of you, I am sure that in the future you will win this title :)

denim
05-30-2004, 02:59 AM
woohoooooo GUGA ....just like the old days...the magic still there :)

Alan
05-30-2004, 03:07 AM
yes! flashes of brilliance from one of the kings of clay...

his win surely lifted me up after juanqui's heart-breaking loss

denim
05-30-2004, 03:10 AM
I'll second that Alan !! or should i say 3rd that LOL :) :) :)

PennyThePenguin
05-30-2004, 06:43 AM
GREAT GAME GUGA!!!! :woohoo:

naiwen
05-30-2004, 07:18 AM
for sure, Rogi will get a coach at some point... perhaps sooner rather than later!

Although he said he's still looking for a coach, I don't think he's gonna get one.
When mentioning American's clay-phobia, Roger said top 15 or 20 player is good enough to figure it out.
I think he is confident that he can manage to learn something by himself.

Richard Cranium
05-30-2004, 07:22 AM
Congratulations Guga too good that was vintage form, the big backhand was on fire, and Federer was rubbish on the backhand and this showed the lack of defensive skills that Federer has, as Guga was playing so well, he needed to really scrap, but this was Guga's day and congratulations to him.

rue
05-31-2004, 03:07 AM
This was written quite a while back a few months ago concerning Roger not having a coach and talked about the main area that could slow down his game, by him continuing not to have a coach.

Unbeatable Roger Federer... even without coach [swissinfo, Mathias Froidevaux, March 24, 2004 11:54]

Even without a coach, Roger Federer continues to dominate outrageously world tennis. After Melbourne and Dubaï, he won on Sunday the tournament of Indian Wells. But be careful. If all goes for the best, the absence of a "tactician" at his sides could be paid soon

Twenty-two matches won and only one lost for a total of three new final victories on the ATP tour.

Roger Federer begins the year 2004 as he finished the last season: in beauty. After his successes with Open of Australia and Dubaï, Federer offered to himself, on Sunday, the 14th title of his career in the Californian desert.

Finally, he beat his last "black beast", the British Tim Henman. From now on, more no player can pride himself to have unspecified psychological ascending on him.

"Henman had beaten me in Rotterdam on a surface which advantaged him enormously, explained Roger Federer. In Indian Wells, the conditions are different."

This new victory consolidates still a little more his place of world number one got in January at Melbourne. Fererer is even already assured to begin the tournament of Wimbledon - from which he is holding of the title - in the skin of the leader of the classification... is to say.

Without coach!

Already exceptional, this unmitigated domination is even more if one remembers that Federer does not have any more a coach at his sides. Last December, he had indeed put a term at the profitable collaboration with the Swede Peter Lundgreen.

Since the beginning of the year, he thus makes all his trips with his girlfriend Miroslava Vavrinec. Been given the title of person in charge for the public relations, the former tennis player is from now on his principal landmark.

"Miroslava is a fantastic woman who brought a great balance to Roger Federer, Arnaud Decugis notes. Today, 'Rodgeur' is a happy man on and apart from tennis court."

Old tennis coach retrained into career management of sportsmen (he was particularly involved with Julie Halard which became his wife and more recently with Emmanuelle Gagliardi), this French established in Switzerland for six years follows since many years the career of Federer.

"I understand his choice very well to evolve without a coach. Moreover, all the players classified among 100 best should regularly do the same", he added.

According to him, it makes it possible for the athletes to find a certain autonomy in their personal organization and a greater freedom in the expression of their play.

A fast decision

Arnaud Decugis also points on an excess in the use of the coaches. Much of them would only fulfill according to him the role of a guide. Without worrying to give any technical and tactical support.

Very severe towards his former colleagues, the French however does not think that it is possible for a tennis player indefinitely to go without the advices of a professional coach. Even in the case of Roger Federer.

"It would be well for him that he makes a decision rather quickly, before having les good results. His excellent matches of this beginning of year is the result of the very good work accomplished last year ", explains Arnaud Decugis.

"But his play is degrading slowly, he concludes. In particular on his backhand. The lack of precision and intensity during training is always paid a few weeks later."

But Roger Federer once again is the man to be beaten in Key Biscayne. The possible problems should not start before the beginning of the tournaments on clay. Because it's the surface which requires the best preparation.

In Roland-Garros, for example, the combined presences of Miroslava Vavrinec, a good sparing-partner and his physiotherapist in his entourage could not be enough. But with the "tennis genius" of Federer, nothing seems impossible.


It is true that his back hand has at times been quite off, maybe it is because he now needs a coach, but we will have to see what happens at Wimbledon and hopefully he can defend his title considering the fact that it is his best surface.

LCeh
05-31-2004, 03:36 AM
I agree, he needs a coach. He still can learn a lot strategic wise and tactic wise. I think he should also train himself harder and try to improve his game. Even though a lot of people already consider him the best ever, needless to say there is lots of room for improvement, and I hope now that he has improved his mental aspect of the game, he goes back to the technique and physical part of the game.

Dirk
05-31-2004, 03:42 AM
Roger's backhand was mostly on during Oz. The only matches it was a bit off was the JC semi and the final with Marat. In the final it was better as the match went on. In Wells his backhand worked great except in the Andre match which he still won. I'm sure in Dubai it worked well since he won the event. I know that in Hamburg his backhand was great in the Gonzo and Hewitt matches. The only matches it was bad was with Moya, Gaudio and Coria which it did get better after the first set. In his last two matches Rg matches it was bad. So tell me when other player's weapons are off here and there does it mean they are degenerating too? :rolleyes: Roger will get a coach when the time is right.

LCeh
05-31-2004, 03:45 AM
Well, Dirk, I am not too sure about the backhand part, I think it has been decent, but not great as in like TMC 03 great. Roger doesn't kill people with his backhand, but other parts of his game. I would be delighted if Roger can make backhand a type of weapon that he can count on too. It's hard, but with proper training and hard work, I think it can be done. Plus a coach can provide strategic and tactical advices too.

Dirk
05-31-2004, 03:52 AM
With Time it will only get better. We have seen plenty of examples of his backhand being great since the Cup. I listed them. If Roger's backhand goes down a notch he will train more on that side. I mean what the hell do you think he does at training and practice? Just hit and work on his forehands?? Let's not get stupid here people. Roger had a bad day playing Guga the most decorated player on the clay that is currently playing. Had this match been played on the hot dry part of the day, the match might have been very different. Oh and Lch Roger rarely hits crosscourt backhand winners when his opponent is at the baseline, maybe in the future that will change. I only see him and it getting better.

LCeh
05-31-2004, 03:55 AM
Well, I think he should improve over time, but not sure by how much. I hope by a lot though. :)

Dirk
05-31-2004, 03:59 AM
LCeh, I've been following Roger since 01 and he always has been improving so I don't see that changing.

Denise
05-31-2004, 07:57 AM
THANKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK YOU GUGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!! I believed u would do this........


:yeah:

WyveN
05-31-2004, 03:47 PM
roger is waiting for andre to retire so that he can pick up Cahill

Dirk
06-01-2004, 01:48 PM
LOL how do you know Wyvern? What would Cahill bring to Roger's game?

RogiFan88
06-01-2004, 02:49 PM
hee hee Wyven, I've been thinking about that poss myself... as long as someone knocks out AA in every tourney, Cahill just might be looking for a new player to coach...

WyveN
06-01-2004, 03:08 PM
LOL how do you know Wyvern? What would Cahill bring to Roger's game?

I just heard a rumour, you don't want Cahill to be his coach?
I would prefer Annacone but Tim isn't going to let him go for a while, Cahill got Hewitt 2 slams, just think what he could do with Roger.

vene
06-01-2004, 08:14 PM
Yeah, I think Rogi needs a coach, but maybe its a good thing he went out early.....now he can prepare to defend his title @ Wimby