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Confirmed: Nadal No Bangkok

barbadosan
09-23-2007, 03:56 PM
http://uk.reuters.com/article/tennisNews/idUKSP13553520070923

BANGKOK, Sept 23 (Reuters) - World number two Rafael Nadal of Spain has pulled out of this week's Thailand Open because of a knee injury, organisers said on Sunday. The three-times grand slam winner is at home in Mallorca receiving treated for tendonitis in his left knee, which plagued him during the recent U.S. Open, where he reached the fourth round.

MariaV
09-23-2007, 03:58 PM
Oh that's just too bad. :( :sad: But he better not come back until he's feeling better and ready. :hug:

elessar
09-23-2007, 04:02 PM
Oh that's just too bad. :( :sad: But he better not come back until he's feeling better and ready. :hug:

Actually that's good news there would be nothing worse than for him to come back on a hard court with a lingering injury.

Exodus
09-23-2007, 04:20 PM
nadal is burning out already yeah

dylan24
09-23-2007, 04:33 PM
if he was smart, he'd take the rest of the year off

Johnny Groove
09-23-2007, 04:52 PM
Nadal had no intention of playing, he had pulled out a while ago, but the tourney director played a game until the last possible minute with the Thai fans.

neenah
09-23-2007, 04:56 PM
Nadal had no intention of playing, he had pulled out a while ago, but the tourney director played a game until the last possible minute with the Thai fans.

Money, money, money I suppose. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I wish all the best to Nadal.

Sunset of Age
09-23-2007, 05:11 PM
Actually that's good news there would be nothing worse than for him to come back on a hard court with a lingering injury.

I fully agree. However sad the fact that he is injured, it is most important that he now takes the time to fully heal before coming back on the HCs. The upcoming TMS Madrid is way more important than this tournament, and hopefully he'll be fully fit for that one. Get well soon, Raf! :hug:

Horatio Caine
09-23-2007, 05:40 PM
Well start Rafa :sad: :confused:

amierin
09-23-2007, 05:40 PM
Nadal had no intention of playing, he had pulled out a while ago, but the tourney director played a game until the last possible minute with the Thai fans.

Say it again. Djokovic is still saying his next event is Vienna...

jonny84
09-23-2007, 05:57 PM
But still....a potential Djokovic vs Roddick final is on the cards. Some great tennis still to come for the Thai fans. Anyway, Nadal isnt at his best on the hard courts.

tennisgal_001
09-23-2007, 06:06 PM
Expected not to say the least. The best thing at the moment for Rafa would be rest, rest, and more rest. He needs to focus on Madrid, Paris (if anyone decides to show up), and Shanghai.

Aurora
09-23-2007, 06:08 PM
Expected
Never in doubt.

tennisgal_001
09-23-2007, 06:10 PM
Never in doubt.

:lol:

sonia
09-23-2007, 06:21 PM
I hope he'll be better soon! :hug:

adee-gee
09-23-2007, 06:31 PM
nadal is burning out already yeah

Classy :hatoff:

tangerine_dream
09-23-2007, 07:12 PM
Good decision by Rafa. Gotta take care of those knees.

DrJules
09-23-2007, 07:28 PM
Nadal has little to gain from playing any more optionals this year.

He would have to reach a semi-final to gain any worthwhile points.

Alex999
09-23-2007, 07:52 PM
But still....a potential Djokovic vs Roddick final is on the cards. Some great tennis still to come for the Thai fans. Anyway, Nadal isnt at his best on the hard courts.

Djokovic is going to play his next tournament in Vienna. That's what he said in his interview after SRB. def Aus. I just checked his web site (it says there 'Next tournament - Vienna'.I just don't understand why he doesn't announce this to the organizers in Bangkok.

NYCtennisfan
09-23-2007, 08:01 PM
Nadal has 3 tournaments left: Madrid, Paris, and the TMC. He's not going to get much from optionals so unless he wants some pocket money, he's not going to play smaller tournaments for the rest of the year.

musefanatic
09-23-2007, 09:23 PM
I hope this won't plague him for too long and he'll be back to fitness for next season. He really did do too much this season i think, but hopefully next year he'll be back and at his best.

Johnny Groove
09-23-2007, 09:25 PM
Nadal has 3 tournaments left: Madrid, Paris, and the TMC. He's not going to get much from optionals so unless he wants some pocket money, he's not going to play smaller tournaments for the rest of the year.

He is playing the south ameircan clay MM swing next year, so those are guaranteed points. Playing anything other than Madrid, Paris, and Shanghai for the rest of this year would just be :retard:

dragons112
09-23-2007, 09:27 PM
hes only 21 and already down - his french crown wont be his for much longer

RickDaStick
09-23-2007, 09:39 PM
He is playing the south ameircan clay MM swing next year, so those are guaranteed points. Playing anything other than Madrid, Paris, and Shanghai for the rest of this year would just be :retard:

So RafaRoids is already burned out with the season not even close to being over yet he will play a bunch of MM clay tournaments early next season. Not surpising as Nadal is known for his low IQ

Bilbo
09-23-2007, 09:41 PM
that tank seems empty

*snowflake*
09-23-2007, 09:43 PM
It was about damn time for him to put that famous ass down and heal the knee before it was too late.

Allure
09-23-2007, 09:59 PM
I can't believe he injured his knee. It's not like his style of play would warrant any injuries. :scratch: :confused:

Johnny Groove
09-23-2007, 10:04 PM
So RafaRoids is already burned out with the season not even close to being over yet he will play a bunch of MM clay tournaments early next season. Not surpising as Nadal is known for his low IQ

Do you have anything worthwhile to post? You havent said anything new :shrug:

fmolinari2005
09-23-2007, 10:32 PM
He is playing the south ameircan clay MM swing next year, so those are guaranteed points. Playing anything other than Madrid, Paris, and Shanghai for the rest of this year would just be :retard:

Is Rafa going back playing the entire south american clay court season?! I remember in 2005, when he played Buenos Aires, Costa do Sauípe and at México. Actually, I saw Rafa winning his first title of the season at Brazil (not live though), defeating Marcelo Mello.

It would be fun to see the crowd reaction to Nadal playing again at Costa do Sauípe. They would probably cheer a lot for him!

World Beater
09-23-2007, 10:34 PM
rafa wants the #1 ranking. He will put as much pressure as he can on fed and to fend off joker. Those MM pts should be easy picking for nadal and will not be so hard on his body.

good decision.

Nadal has plenty of years ahead. No need to burn them by playing so much on hardcourts this early in his career.

Lee
09-23-2007, 10:40 PM
Is Rafa going back playing the entire south american clay court season?! I remember in 2005, when he played Buenos Aires, Costa do Sauípe and at México. Actually, I saw Rafa winning his first title of the season at Brazil (not live though), defeating Marcelo Mello.

It would be fun to see the crowd reaction to Nadal playing again at Costa do Sauípe. They would probably cheer a lot for him!

I believe that's Ricardo Mello not Marcelo Melo and it's in the SF. Rafa defeated Alberto Martin in the final.

fmolinari2005
09-23-2007, 11:02 PM
I believe that's Ricardo Mello not Marcelo Melo and it's in the SF. Rafa defeated Alberto Martin in the final.

Sorry. You are right. The new doubles guy is Marcelo Melo. Ricardo Mello just played today for DC. I got confused. Oh ... I forgot that it was semi-finals! Was Rafa a set down?! I remember that during that tournament, at least one time he was a set down. Cant remember exactly.

And, before Rafa became Nadal, he lost to Gaudio at Buenos Aires. Right?!

I think it is a good decision for Rafa playing those tournaments. If he feels hard courts are bad for him, it seems better for him, indeed, to focus on hard courts only during the US summer. Because those early MS (IW/Miami) actually lead nowhere, in terms of preparation for GS.

FedFan_2007
09-23-2007, 11:14 PM
Great going Rafa, heal up Spartan. I want you rough and ready for the tumble in Shanghai.

MrChopin
09-23-2007, 11:54 PM
rafa wants the #1 ranking. He will put as much pressure as he can on fed and to fend off joker. Those MM pts should be easy picking for nadal and will not be so hard on his body.

Everyone wants the #1. ;)

Rafa would be able to get some points in the S. American stretch, but the most realistic goal he has at this point is simply hanging on to #2. If he won Brazil, Argentina, and Mexico, he'd get a nice 600 points. However, after filling out his "best other 5," assuming another win in Barcelona and Stuttgart, he still only gains 395 from where he is now by mid '08. That still leaves him about 1800 short of Federer. Should he play and do well at Paris, he could chip another 3-400 off of the lead, but he's still behind by about 1400 at that point.

It will take a lot for Nadal to get #1 at this point. Unless Djoke can start hurting Federer on the big hard tournies, like slams or even TMC/MS, I think Fed's safe for a while. He has some large points he can make up early next year, like Miami, IW, which will hurt Rafa and Djoke's chances of taking away as many points. With Rome and now an addition with Estoril and possibly Halle, Fed stands with a lot of opportunities to make up what he missed in '07. With the compact clay season next summer, Nadal's absolute dominance in everything red is also questionable, so I think Rafa's chances at #3 are a lot better than #1, even if he sticks to clay for six months. Though it will get him more points, winning on clay won't get him much closer to #1, and further, it will delay reality: he will not hold #1 for an extended period of time until he can improve his hard court play or until Fed start drops a slam (or two).

Sunset of Age
09-24-2007, 12:01 AM
rafa wants the #1 ranking. He will put as much pressure as he can on fed and to fend off joker. Those MM pts should be easy picking for nadal and will not be so hard on his body.

good decision.

Nadal has plenty of years ahead. No need to burn them by playing so much on hardcourts this early in his career.

I think it is a good decision for Rafa playing those tournaments. If he feels hard courts are bad for him, it seems better for him, indeed, to focus on hard courts only during the US summer. Because those early MS (IW/Miami) actually lead nowhere, in terms of preparation for GS.

Agree with you both.
It's obvious Rafa wants that #1 position very much, and after having been the #2 for such a very long time, it must have become rather frustrating for him - no wonder he tried to play as much as possible, to get closer to Fed. But in the end, I can't conclude otherwise than that it has rather cost him than benefitted him.

It might well be that after his great run at IW/Miami, he actually thought he had overcome his problems with HC, but apparently he didn't. I myself hoped that he'd have a good run at the US summer HC season, so obviously I got a wrong impression there as well... :sad:

Therefore it is a wise decision of him to play the South American MM clay tournaments next year in stead of tiring himself out on HC again. Those will be easy points for him to catch, and playing these tournaments will indeed not be so hard on his body.

I want to see him around as long as possible, and hate the idea of him burning himself out before his time - as long as he manages to fend off Djoko, he should realize that that #1 position should only be a matter of time - IF he manages to stay around in the first place!

So, no more 'point whoring' on HC, I beggs, Raf... :hug:

Allure
09-24-2007, 12:04 AM
Nadal should play as many tournaments as possible this year. Also as much hardcourt tournies as possible.

Burrow
09-24-2007, 12:07 AM
nadal is burning out already yeah

:yeah:

Sunset of Age
09-24-2007, 12:13 AM
Nadal should play as many tournaments as possible this year. Also as much hardcourt tournies as possible.

:confused: It's pretty obvious that that is *exactly* what he was aiming to do this year - and now he's suffering tendonitis in both knees, quite serious injuries, as tendonitis may well become chronic, and thus a threat to his entire career!

Have to disagree with you here, he should take care, take the time to properly heal, and build up his shedule in a more sensible manner (meaning, playing more clay and less HC) to prevent him from burning out before his time, which might well happen if that tendonitis indeed becomes chronic. And that would be a very sad thing to happen indeed, as I believe he truly deserves that #1 spot at some time during his career.

Whistleway
09-24-2007, 12:14 AM
Rafa should not worry too much about #1. It is just a matter of time. Fed can't stay #1 for more than a year or two.

Rafa should just focus on improving and not injuring himself and play a smart schedule. And it would do him good to get a part-time coach as well inaddition to his uncle.

He just needs to think long-term. He's very young and time is on his side.

Allure
09-24-2007, 12:25 AM
Rafa should not worry too much about #1. It is just a matter of time. Fed can't stay #1 for more than a year or two.

Rafa should just focus on improving and not injuring himself and play a smart schedule. And it would do him good to get a part-time coach as well inaddition to his uncle.

He just needs to think long-term. He's very young and time is on his side.

Look what happened to Hewitt.

brent-o
09-24-2007, 12:49 AM
Anyone else laugh when they read the thread title? Probably just my dirty mind.

fmolinari2005
09-24-2007, 12:50 AM
Look what happened to Hewitt.

I know that Hewitt lost his edge, but up until Wimbledon 05, he was right up there, reaching GS finals and semi-finals. Actually, if I am not mistaken, for 2 years, Lleyton only lost to the eventual GS champion.

And, if you look at the guys that battled him for GS titles and the number one spot during the peak of his career, most of them are past their prime too. Maybe only Roger and Pandy are still on the top ten. Just look at Marat's, Ferrero's and Coria's career.

So, I guess it is fair to say he lost his edge. But I always felt that "burn out" was a strong sentence for him.

That said, I see Nadal being a major factor on most tournaments for quite sometime. On a slightly ironical statement, he will always have the clay season to heal his wounds.

barbadosan
09-24-2007, 12:54 AM
Anyone else laugh when they read the thread title? Probably just my dirty mind.

I thought it had passed everybody by :angel:

World Beater
09-24-2007, 12:59 AM
Everyone wants the #1. ;)

Rafa would be able to get some points in the S. American stretch, but the most realistic goal he has at this point is simply hanging on to #2. If he won Brazil, Argentina, and Mexico, he'd get a nice 600 points. However, after filling out his "best other 5," assuming another win in Barcelona and Stuttgart, he still only gains 395 from where he is now by mid '08. That still leaves him about 1800 short of Federer. Should he play and do well at Paris, he could chip another 3-400 off of the lead, but he's still behind by about 1400 at that point.

It will take a lot for Nadal to get #1 at this point. Unless Djoke can start hurting Federer on the big hard tournies, like slams or even TMC/MS, I think Fed's safe for a while. He has some large points he can make up early next year, like Miami, IW, which will hurt Rafa and Djoke's chances of taking away as many points. With Rome and now an addition with Estoril and possibly Halle, Fed stands with a lot of opportunities to make up what he missed in '07. With the compact clay season next summer, Nadal's absolute dominance in everything red is also questionable, so I think Rafa's chances at #3 are a lot better than #1, even if he sticks to clay for six months. Though it will get him more points, winning on clay won't get him much closer to #1, and further, it will delay reality: he will not hold #1 for an extended period of time until he can improve his hard court play or until Fed start drops a slam (or two).


we can talk a lot about scenario's, but until federer drops his level nadal will not be #1. I was thinking more long term rather than short-term. Short-term nadal has little chance of getting the #1 spot because federer's potential to win pts is spread out evenly throughout the year. Despite the pressure nadal is putting on him, federer is still able to skip out on optionals and play tournaments at his own pace and schedule. i wouldn't be surprised to see federer skip paris this year considering the schedule he is playing and how much he values the TMC.

Long-term, nadal will suit his body by playing more on clay and limiting exposure to hardcourts. Rather than trying to stress his body on HC and play more tournaments in trying to track down federer, he should probably try to maintain his overall level and then lift his game hopefully for the hardcourt GS. He has more pts than previous #1's have had. If he can maintain it, he should be #1 soon.

Djokovic will probably be a bigger thorn in nadal's side than federer in the immediate future because he can pick up huge pts during the indoor season and is good enough on clay to go deep and not get too far behind nadal on pts. Djokovic isn't beating nadal on clay and has a higher probability to beat federer on faster courts, but federer's dominance stretches too far for djokovic to be a huge factor in federer reliquinshing the #1 rank.

Gulliver
09-24-2007, 01:05 AM
I am curious to know how the Nadal knees will fare on the surfaces of Madrid->Paris->Shanghai.

Allure
09-24-2007, 01:07 AM
I know that Hewitt lost his edge, but up until Wimbledon 05, he was right up there, reaching GS finals and semi-finals. Actually, if I am not mistaken, for 2 years, Lleyton only lost to the eventual GS champion.

And, if you look at the guys that battled him for GS titles and the number one spot during the peak of his career, most of them are past their prime too. Maybe only Roger and Pandy are still on the top ten. Just look at Marat's, Ferrero's and Coria's career.

So, I guess it is fair to say he lost his edge. But I always felt that "burn out" was a strong sentence for him.

That said, I see Nadal being a major factor on most tournaments for quite sometime. On a slightly ironical statement, he will always have the clay season to heal his wounds.

Not if he keeps getting injured.

zadle69
09-24-2007, 01:09 AM
injuries increases your internal body ages and with the tennis players not getting bigger, stronger and faster. I dont know. I think it will be very difficult.

Sunset of Age
09-24-2007, 01:10 AM
Not if he keeps getting injured.

And that's exactly why he shouldn't overdo on HC tournaments, but rather choose to play clay tournaments that aren't so bad for his bod. :angel:

FedFan_2007
09-24-2007, 01:13 AM
Come on Spartan. Heal up and prove the nay-sayers wrong. You can win a big hardcourt event!

Allure
09-24-2007, 01:14 AM
And that's exactly why he shouldn't overdo on HC tournaments, but rather choose to play clay tournaments that aren't so bad for his bod. :angel:

Why even bother playing hc tournaments. He should stick to clay. He won't get injured and get points. :)

Allure
09-24-2007, 01:15 AM
Come on Spartan. Heal up and prove the nay-sayers wrong. You can win a big hardcourt event!

He did Miami. :)

fmolinari2005
09-24-2007, 01:28 AM
And that's exactly why he shouldn't overdo on HC tournaments, but rather choose to play clay tournaments that aren't so bad for his bod. :angel:


Allow me be an armchair coach right now. Get ready for some stupidity, though! ;) :lol:

I dont think Rafa will be able to change dramatically his playing style. He can improve his game, but change it completely is highly unlikely. That said, I think that he can improve his game to shorten points against lower ranked players, but against the big boys.

What would a good strategy (not only on hardcourts, btw) for Rafa would be, in terms of reducing injuries and body/ mind stress?! Finding balance on his on court intensity. Play each opponent differently. I am not saying underestimating some players, but learning how to coast through matches would be great. It is 6-3 4-1 ... dont run for everyshot, take some chances, even if that might increase his UE account. I actually think that Rafa would benefit from drifting to "Xiscaland" eventually. Bringing up his "Enegizer Bunny" intensity level only and whenever it is needed. How many matches, today, you see this scenario with Rafa: first round, he is leading 6-3 5-1 with the opponent serving 40-0 and Rafa still treating the match as if it is a GS final and he is playing a big point?! Leave that intensity for the big moments. But I understand that for him to find this balance withouth losing his edge will be tough.

Sunset of Age
09-24-2007, 01:31 AM
Why even bother playing hc tournaments. He should stick to clay. He won't get injured and get points. :)

Nay, he should of course try and do his best at the USA summer HC events. Hey, I said not to OVERDO it, that's something different from 'not trying at all' ;). Exchanging the spring HC series with the Southern American clay tournaments doesn't seem a bad idea to me. It will benefit his body and as such, the longlivety of his career - and will ensure him 'easy' points.

Raf isn't at all a bad player on HC, but apparently playing it does too much damage to his body on the long run. So he should be careful with his schedule.

Sunset of Age
09-24-2007, 01:50 AM
Allow me be an armchair coach right now. Get ready for some stupidity, though! ;) :lol:

I think I've been playing the role of the armchair coach for quite a bit as well, so... :D

I dont think Rafa will be able to change dramatically his playing style. He can improve his game, but change it completely is highly unlikely. That said, I think that he can improve his game to shorten points against lower ranked players, but against the big boys.

Yes, I agree with you here - but I don't think he actually needs to change his style 'dramatically' - just learn how to shorten the points whereever it's possible, as you said, would be a great adjustment already.

What would a good strategy (not only on hardcourts, btw) for Rafa would be, in terms of reducing injuries and body/ mind stress?! Finding balance on his on court intensity.

Spot on, I think. :yeah:

How many matches, today, you see this scenario with Rafa: first round, he is leading 6-3 5-1 with the opponent serving 40-0 and Rafa still treating the match as if it is a GS final and he is playing a big point?! Leave that intensity for the big moments. But I understand that for him to find this balance withouth losing his edge will be tough.

Yep, that may well be one of the reasons why he apparently hasn't yet been able to 'let go' of that Energizer Bunny-mode... (:lol:) but I trust he'll be able to adjust & improve with time. He's still young, don't forget that.

'Xiscaland'.... heheh. Good one. :p

alfonsojose
09-24-2007, 02:11 AM
bad news for his chances at year end no. 1

calvinhobbes
09-24-2007, 02:50 AM
Allow me be an armchair coach right now. Get ready for some stupidity, though! ;) :lol:

I dont think Rafa will be able to change dramatically his playing style. He can improve his game, but change it completely is highly unlikely. That said, I think that he can improve his game to shorten points against lower ranked players, but against the big boys.

What would a good strategy (not only on hardcourts, btw) for Rafa would be, in terms of reducing injuries and body/ mind stress?! Finding balance on his on court intensity. Play each opponent differently. I am not saying underestimating some players, but learning how to coast through matches would be great. It is 6-3 4-1 ... dont run for everyshot, take some chances, even if that might increase his UE account. I actually think that Rafa would benefit from drifting to "Xiscaland" eventually. Bringing up his "Enegizer Bunny" intensity level only and whenever it is needed. How many matches, today, you see this scenario with Rafa: first round, he is leading 6-3 5-1 with the opponent serving 40-0 and Rafa still treating the match as if it is a GS final and he is playing a big point?! Leave that intensity for the big moments. But I understand that for him to find this balance withouth losing his edge will be tough.


Yeah. Transferring his paraphernalia from Sparta to Xiscaland, and learning some ballet-tennis. C´mon. Say it. Those are forbidden words for rafatards, but at last they must accept them as a wise remedy . . . . .:rolls: :rolls: :rolls:

Kalliopeia
09-24-2007, 04:53 AM
Raf isn't at all a bad player on HC, but apparently playing it does too much damage to his body on the long run. So he should be careful with his schedule.

The thing about this year at least is that his injury trouble didn't start on hardcourts, it started in the fourth set of the Wimbledon final after a heavy clay season and the rain damaged Wimbledon schedule. He hadn't played a hard court tournament since Miami. I think the Wimbledon schedule fiasco pushed him just a little too much, and so he started behind on the hard courts because of that. I honestly think he'd have been okay as far as injuries go if that hadn't happened. Even with it he was doing ok until the USO...the Cincy withdrawal had nothing to do with his knee.

FedFan_2007
09-24-2007, 05:55 AM
He did Miami. :)

Actually Indian Wells. Novak won Miami. Both of the usurpers took Fed's titles!@ :devil:

FedFan_2007
09-24-2007, 05:56 AM
The thing about this year at least is that his injury trouble didn't start on hardcourts, it started in the fourth set of the Wimbledon final after a heavy clay season and the rain damaged Wimbledon schedule. He hadn't played a hard court tournament since Miami. I think the Wimbledon schedule fiasco pushed him just a little too much, and so he started behind on the hard courts because of that. I honestly think he'd have been okay as far as injuries go if that hadn't happened. Even with it he was doing ok until the USO...the Cincy withdrawal had nothing to do with his knee.

Shouldn't he have skipped Stuttgart then? WTF was up with that? Camp Nadal is a bit crazy these days...

Allure
09-24-2007, 06:01 AM
Actually Indian Wells. Novak won Miami. Both of the usurpers took Fed's titles!@ :devil:

He won Montreal against Agassi which is a major title and Dubai hc against Federer in 06.

World Beater
09-24-2007, 06:09 AM
two years ago, i doubted nadal's ability to play on HC. But when he beat agassi who was hitting hard fast balls with low trajectory on HC and at wimbledon, i understood this kid's potential. He changed up his fh slightly on faster courts.

HarryMan
09-24-2007, 06:39 AM
Smart decision from him ,I wouldn't come back on tour if I wasn't 100% healthy either .

As far as his game is concerned He has definitely been very aggressive as compared to his former self from couple of seasons earlier,which is a good thing but he needs to work and improve his serve a lot to win more cheap points.

He is definitely an all court player (whether his game permits him or not is probably debatable),But His results over these years have definitely proved and continue to prove that (but to a varying proportion).

What I mean by that is even if he plays at 60% of his normal self that should normally get the job done on the claycourts against most of the players but the same cant be said about the hardcourts ,On the hards he needs to play sensibly and schedule himself properly instead of playing every MM tournament.So overall a good decision ...

Allure
09-24-2007, 07:34 AM
I am very disappointed to read that Rafa no Bangkok. :(

J'torian. You must stop with your sexual references. :haha: :o

Allure
09-24-2007, 08:00 AM
It's just a shame that he might not perform well the rest of the year. :(

I guess he can't rise to the occasion. :shrug:

Fensler
09-24-2007, 08:11 AM
I guess he can't rise to the occasion. :shrug:

Are you saying that he just can't handle the stiff competition?

Allure
09-24-2007, 08:13 AM
Are you saying that he just can't handle the stiff competition?

:spit: :worship:

l_mac
09-24-2007, 10:13 AM
^^ Carlos went to Bangkok in Rafa's place, (took his seat on the plane) so as far as the Moydal shippers are concerned he's there for Rafa :) :hearts:

I thought Djokovic said after his DC tie that his next tournament is Vienna? Has he forgotten to withdraw from Bangkok? Silly billy.

Kalliopeia
09-24-2007, 10:42 AM
Shouldn't he have skipped Stuttgart then? WTF was up with that? Camp Nadal is a bit crazy these days...

Probably, yes, but as they say hindsight is 20/20. And he was kind of in a bind there. He wanted to avoid going a month without playing and maintain some kind of form. I guess he thought it'd be ok since it was on clay.

fmolinari2005
09-24-2007, 12:05 PM
Are you saying that he just can't handle the stiff competition?

They are saying that handling Bangkok's stiff competition right now might make the pain in his ass worse.

FedFan_2007
09-24-2007, 02:11 PM
Nadal's 2005 haul of 11 titles looks like a fluke in 20/20 retrospect...

RogiFan88
09-24-2007, 02:12 PM
we could have told you this news before Raf announced it...

Corey Feldman
09-26-2007, 08:14 PM
"He have pain in those famous Knee's, no?"

why doesnt this ever happen to him around May time every year? :sad:

exposbabe
09-26-2007, 09:19 PM
two years ago, i doubted nadal's ability to play on HC. But when he beat agassi who was hitting hard fast balls with low trajectory on HC and at wimbledon, i understood this kid's potential. He changed up his fh slightly on faster courts.


I don't quite agree. He does make that adjustment on grass, which is why he came so close to winning Wimbledon.
But he doesn't do it on the hard courts.
He plays his clay-court game everywhere - except grass.
If he took his Wimbledon game (including hitting through the ball more on his FH) to the hard courts he would have a lot more success.

I don't know if he's the stubborn one, or if he really needs a better coach than "Uncle Toni." Probably both.;)