Djokovic/Zimonj def Hanley/Hewitt 3-6 6-4 6-3 6-2 [Archive] - MensTennisForums.com

Djokovic/Zimonj def Hanley/Hewitt 3-6 6-4 6-3 6-2

StevoTG
09-22-2007, 05:12 PM
3-6 6-4 6-3 6-2 :awww:

JustJames
09-22-2007, 05:15 PM
Great result! :banana:

Djokovic/Zimonjic def. Hanley/Hewitt 3-6 6-4 6-3 6-2 [now is that so hard to write yourself?]

StevoTG
09-22-2007, 05:18 PM
Great result! :banana:

Djokovic/Zimonjic def. Hanley/Hewitt 3-6 6-4 6-3 6-2 [now is that so hard to write yourself?]

Sheesh did'nt mean to offend you, I'm trying to watch the Bryans here at the same time, USA 1 point from victory (and a 2-1 lead)!

Horatio Caine
09-22-2007, 05:20 PM
Expected win, and effectively condemned Australia to the zonals.

JustJames
09-22-2007, 05:21 PM
Sheesh did'nt mean to offend you, I'm trying to watch the Bryans here at the same time, USA 1 point from victory!

:lol: You didn't offend me... I just don't see the point of starting a thread with simply a score.
Anyhow.. thanks for updating :yeah:

StevoTG
09-22-2007, 05:30 PM
:lol: You didn't offend me... I just don't see the point of starting a thread with simply a score.
Anyhow.. thanks for updating :yeah:

Ok then, I'm just becoming more aggresive now that I've started to play tennis :eek:

Title changed ;)

GlennMirnyi
09-22-2007, 05:46 PM
Ridiculous two good doubles players losing to a one-man team.

dragon.serbia
09-22-2007, 06:08 PM
Ridiculous two good doubles players losing to a one-man team.

Did you even watch the match? I think, no.

aussie_fan
09-22-2007, 06:10 PM
The Serbs played well, with the crowd they were impossible to stop with some of the shit they were pulling off.

The way Djokovic and Zimonj acted throughout the match was disgraceful, there was no need for the amount of carrying on they did after each point, to be penalised for the crowd behaivour only in the second last game with a warning was terrible umpiring. I love the Davis Cup and the home court advantage but i think a lot of countries are taking it too far, poor crowd behaviour, terrible quality courts, it's a bloody circus, they've got to do something about it. I wonder if a lot of people who saw the match think the same.

Looking forward to zonals next year :o

MCL
09-22-2007, 06:18 PM
Good for Nole and Zimonjic :)

aeronatasha
09-22-2007, 06:23 PM
Wow. I was hoping we'd win, but to win this big.. Got off to a slow start, but then really stepped it up.
Fantastic performance boys.
Go Serbia!

*snowflake*
09-22-2007, 06:25 PM
After going to that match i'm even more sure that i don't like doubles.

On the other hand, yesterday Djokovic was frustarted how the crowd didn't root, today we menaged to lose a point thanks to thick headed mf who don't get the concept of rooting at a tennis match regardless of the fact that this is Davis Cup. And it was all in the name of feeding Nole's ego... So today was the first time that he really irked me.

Other than that i'm happy we won.

aeronatasha
09-22-2007, 06:31 PM
I imagine Hewitt would act sooooo much differently if they won.. :rolleyes:
Leave them be. So the crowd is ignorant. What's new? Not like those people followed tennis before.
I say let's enjoy while it's good.
I don't like the media super hype either, but it happens, that's the way things go. Novak's young, overexcited.. all things pass.

aussie_fan
09-22-2007, 06:37 PM
I imagine Hewitt would act sooooo much differently if they won.. :rolleyes:


he wouldn't of been no way as near as bad as Novak was today, Lleyton doesn't run around the whole court and high five everyone after winning a point. Novak showed no class today. And the crowd were terrible as well.

GlennMirnyi
09-22-2007, 06:53 PM
Did you even watch the match? I think, no.

Do you know anything about tennis? I think no.

aeronatasha
09-22-2007, 07:03 PM
We never played a match this big in front of so much crowd. It's a first time for Serbs. The closest we got to defeating Australia was losing 3:2 20 years ago.
I know you're annoyed, I cannot say I enjoy everything in Novak's attitude, but I choose to laugh about it.
He normally doesn't play doubles, he's playing in his home town, he's a great friend with Zimonjic, they've found a way to beat extremely tough opponents.. put it all together, and you get the chaos in Belgrade Arena.
It's not a big thing for Australia I'd imagine, you're used to success in tennis and DC especially. It's a whole new place for Serbia.
We'll cool down.
I do hope Novak will mature some more, but he's a great potential indeed.
:wavey:

Burrow
09-22-2007, 07:04 PM
Ridiculous two good doubles players losing to a one-man team.

We all know Djokovic is a very good player, so you cant be talking about him.

Zimonjic as you know is currently at a career high ranking of 5 in doubles, what one man team??

GlennMirnyi
09-22-2007, 07:08 PM
We all know Djokovic is a very good player, so you cant be talking about him.

Zimonjic as you know is currently at a career high ranking of 5 in doubles, what one man team??

Fakervic sucks at the net and Zimonjic is a worse doubles player than Hanley and Hewitt.

StZox
09-22-2007, 07:21 PM
One more to go!

Volcanic Tennis
09-22-2007, 07:23 PM
Aww Paul :hug: :hug:

aeronatasha
09-22-2007, 07:26 PM
Novak and Nenad drew a heart on the court and put our flag into it. :clap2:
And the national anthem sung by 20000 people.. beautiful.

groundstroke
09-22-2007, 08:05 PM
Nothing really surprising about that.

dragon.serbia
09-22-2007, 08:17 PM
Do you know anything about tennis? I think no.

I guess that yours 17500 posts means that you know something about tennis - respect :worship:

BalkanBoy
09-22-2007, 08:33 PM
Forward SERBIAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whats wrong with Nole running around and being happy they won? He is enjoying his victory for his country and it's nicely done. It hurts if you're an Aussie but that's the part of the game...
Beside that, tomorrow will be interisting Djokovic vs Hewitt... The fight of titans

Allure
09-22-2007, 09:27 PM
Wow classy Djokovic again. :rolleyes:

SerbianSmash
09-22-2007, 10:48 PM
Guys, this is DC. No mercy there.
Go team SERBIA!

P.S. It's a shame that Australia might lose and go down, as I think it's one of the best teams, and historically speaking one of the greatest tennis countries. If you go out, hope to see you back asap in the group.

Farenhajt
09-22-2007, 10:51 PM
Novak showed no class today.

And why would he be obliged to show ANY class (provided we stick to YOUR definition of it)? Because of, let's say, Commonwealth-Swiss school of thought which promotes acting as an emotionless dead fish or as a robot, both on the stands and on court? No way, Jose. The age of fiery rooting in tennis is coming :)

Not that your "Fanatics" were any nice to Nole yesterday, yet you silently condone such behaviour. Our crowd just outdone your pricks, is all. (And in the process, our players made like 212,928 winners more than your guys, so just cry me a river.)

Allure
09-22-2007, 10:58 PM
And why would he be obliged to show ANY class (provided we stick to YOUR definition of it)? Because of, let's say, Commonwealth-Swiss school of thought which promotes acting as an emotionless dead fish or as a robot, both on the stands and on court? No way, Jose. The age of fiery rooting in tennis is coming :)

Not that your "Fanatics" were any nice to Nole yesterday, yet you silently condone such behaviour. Our crowd just outdone your pricks, is all. (And in the process, our players made like 212,928 winners more than your guys, so just cry me a river.)

Another dig at Federer. :lol:

Alex999
09-23-2007, 12:31 AM
And why would he be obliged to show ANY class (provided we stick to YOUR definition of it)? Because of, let's say, Commonwealth-Swiss school of thought which promotes acting as an emotionless dead fish or as a robot, both on the stands and on court? No way, Jose. The age of fiery rooting in tennis is coming :)

Not that your "Fanatics" were any nice to Nole yesterday, yet you silently condone such behaviour. Our crowd just outdone your pricks, is all. (And in the process, our players made like 212,928 winners more than your guys, so just cry me a river.)

Well said. Tennis is not ballet. Good job Novak and Nenad.

leng jai
09-23-2007, 12:33 AM
Djokovic is a fucking tool with his on court antics. And whats with his speech yesterday to the crowd insinuating they were too passive and blaming them for the second rubber loss? This is guy is full of himself.

Anyway how the hell did Australia lose this? I went to sleep at a set and a break up and Serbia were getting smashed. Novak is a terrible terribles player and Zimo is nothing special. Fitzy would be spewing that his far superior doubles team lost this extremely important match...

Alex999
09-23-2007, 12:37 AM
Djokovic is a fucking tool with his on court antics. And whats with his speech yesterday to the crowd insinuating they were too passive and blaming them for the second rubber loss? This is guy is full of himself.

Anyway how the hell did Australia lose this? I went to sleep at a set and a break up and Serbia were getting smashed. Novak is a terrible terribles player and Zimo is nothing special. Fitzy would be spewing that his far superior doubles team lost this extremely important match...


I think you are the fucking tool too. How does that make you feel tool? Serbs played better tennis. Look at the result. Djokovic is so much ahead of any Aussie player. Got that?

Lee
09-23-2007, 12:38 AM
Djokovic is a fucking tool with his on court antics. And whats with his speech yesterday to the crowd insinuating they were too passive and blaming them for the second rubber loss? This is guy is full of himself.

Anyway how the hell did Australia lose this? I went to sleep at a set and a break up and Serbia were getting smashed. Novak is a terrible terribles player and Zimo is nothing special. Fitzy would be spewing that his far superior doubles team lost this extremely important match...

Do you notice you're berating Hanley and Hewitt here actually? :tape:

Magenta
09-23-2007, 01:21 AM
Djokovic is a fucking tool with his on court antics. And whats with his speech yesterday to the crowd insinuating they were too passive and blaming them for the second rubber loss? This is guy is full of himself.

Anyway how the hell did Australia lose this? I went to sleep at a set and a break up and Serbia were getting smashed. Novak is a terrible terribles player and Zimo is nothing special. Fitzy would be spewing that his far superior doubles team lost this extremely important match...

Its clear from your post you only watched the first set.

Fakervic sucks at the net and Zimonjic is a worse doubles player than Hanley and Hewitt.

As for you, the amount of tennis you watch/understand is questionable.

In the last two sets it was a complete beatdown by Djokovic and Zimonjic.
The winners were flowing, and its not like Hanley and Hewitt were making errors.

Nole probably annoyed Hewitt and Hanley in riling the crowd. But I know what he was trying to do, not so much as alter the atmosphere but teach the Serbian crowd to cheer in moments of loss too, typically Serbian mentality doesn't allow for that. When your team is loosing, desert them.
I felt a little sorry for the Aussies in that respect.

tripb19
09-23-2007, 01:35 AM
I think you are the fucking tool too. How does that make you feel tool? Serbs played better tennis. Look at the result. Djokovic is so much ahead of any Aussie player. Got that?

:worship: He has been for about 18 months now. He can be Number one in the world and be just as classless as Lleyton too.

Alex999
09-23-2007, 01:42 AM
:worship: He has been for about 18 months now. He can be Number one in the world and be just as classless as Lleyton too.


lol, couldn't agree more.

Bascule
09-23-2007, 01:54 AM
Farenhajt says:
And why would he be obliged to show ANY class (provided we stick to YOUR definition of it)? Because of, let's say, Commonwealth-Swiss school of thought which promotes acting as an emotionless dead fish or as a robot, both on the stands and on court?
Right, Farenhajt.
I'm sick of this "classy tennis" conversations. This is sport, not ballet!
Aussie "classy", Serbia winner! (I don't mind)

Magical Trevor
09-23-2007, 05:08 AM
I watched until the Aussies were 2-0 up in the second set, and didn't think there was any way on Earth they could lose the match. Hewitt was killing the Serbs on his returns, and Djokovic looked really uncomfortable at net compared to the other 3 players. I'm curious to find out what happened after that... Aussies drop off or did Novak start doing something?

As for Novak's antics, I'm all for it. Your playing DC, you have the home court advantage and a massive crowd, why the heck not get them into it? It's not like he was telling them to spit on the Aussies, just pumping them up. Though his criticism of the crowd in regards to the previos day's play that people are mentioning seems a bit wrong.

krystlel
09-23-2007, 05:27 AM
Djokovic and Zimonjic really picked up their play as the match went on. Djokovic started to get far more comfortable as the match progressed with his court positioning and he was hitting some good shots off the baseline. Towards the end, they were both hitting some superb shots and they were playing with a lot of adrenaline as well.

aussie_fan
09-23-2007, 07:15 AM
And why would he be obliged to show ANY class (provided we stick to YOUR definition of it)? Because of, let's say, Commonwealth-Swiss school of thought which promotes acting as an emotionless dead fish or as a robot, both on the stands and on court? No way, Jose. The age of fiery rooting in tennis is coming :)

Not that your "Fanatics" were any nice to Nole yesterday, yet you silently condone such behaviour. Our crowd just outdone your pricks, is all. (And in the process, our players made like 212,928 winners more than your guys, so just cry me a river.)

As I said, Serbs played better than us, i know that.

But there is a point where you are taking it too far, how unfair is it when we having court that's almost unplayable to begin with, while your players are encouraging the poor crowd behaviour, it's too tough to ask for anyone to play well. I'm sick of having of watch these away ties where they seem to have no respect at all. It isn't right. Nole acted like a wanker, any person should of been able to of seen that.

GlennMirnyi
09-23-2007, 07:25 AM
I guess that yours 17500 posts means that you know something about tennis - respect :worship:

No, not being a freaking tool like you means that.

Djokovic is a fucking tool with his on court antics. And whats with his speech yesterday to the crowd insinuating they were too passive and blaming them for the second rubber loss? This is guy is full of himself.

Anyway how the hell did Australia lose this? I went to sleep at a set and a break up and Serbia were getting smashed. Novak is a terrible terribles player and Zimo is nothing special. Fitzy would be spewing that his far superior doubles team lost this extremely important match...

Shameful display from the Aussies, and I agree.

I think you are the fucking tool too. How does that make you feel tool? Serbs played better tennis. Look at the result. Djokovic is so much ahead of any Aussie player. Got that?

Stop with the viagra old man, it's driving you nuts.

As for you, the amount of tennis you watch/understand is questionable.

In the last two sets it was a complete beatdown by Djokovic and Zimonjic.
The winners were flowing, and its not like Hanley and Hewitt were making errors.

Nole probably annoyed Hewitt and Hanley in riling the crowd. But I know what he was trying to do, not so much as alter the atmosphere but teach the Serbian crowd to cheer in moments of loss too, typically Serbian mentality doesn't allow for that. When your team is loosing, desert them.
I felt a little sorry for the Aussies in that respect.

The amount of tennis I understand is certainly questionable, but the amount you know isn't. It's clear you know shit about tennis.

Experimentee
09-23-2007, 08:22 AM
Awesome display from the Serbs, especially in the 4th set. Their level just got better and better as the match went on, and the Aussies didnt really play badly, they were just beaten by a better team.

As for the antics, this is DC and its to be expected that the players will get pumped up. Lleyton doesnt act any differently when he winning in DC. It was something special to Serbia as they dont play big matches in their home country very often at all. If they play well, they should celebrate.

The crowd behaviour was not that bad for DC home crowd. The Aussies have been through worse crowds, like in Spain.

The loss of this match means its probably certain that Aus will lose this tie and be out of the WG.

trixtah
09-23-2007, 08:45 AM
Do you know anything about tennis? I think no.

Effectively, here Glenn is saying that no, he didn't watch it (as usual)


Djokovic is a fucking tool with his on court antics. And whats with his speech yesterday to the crowd insinuating they were too passive and blaming them for the second rubber loss? This is guy is full of himself.

Anyway how the hell did Australia lose this? I went to sleep at a set and a break up and Serbia were getting smashed. Novak is a terrible terribles player and Zimo is nothing special. Fitzy would be spewing that his far superior doubles team lost this extremely important match...
Do you notice you're berating Hanley and Hewitt here actually? :tape:

LOL good call

SerbianSmash
09-23-2007, 09:15 AM
Awesome display from the Serbs, especially in the 4th set. Their level just got better and better as the match went on, and the Aussies didnt really play badly, they were just beaten by a better team.

As for the antics, this is DC and its to be expected that the players will get pumped up. Lleyton doesnt act any differently when he winning in DC. It was something special to Serbia as they dont play big matches in their home country very often at all. If they play well, they should celebrate.

The crowd behaviour was not that bad for DC home crowd. The Aussies have been through worse crowds, like in Spain.

The loss of this match means its probably certain that Aus will lose this tie and be out of the WG.

Totally agree. And if Hewitt was in the same situation, I'sure he would be much worse than Nole was. It's the DC, if you can't take it, you go out. Simple as that.
Again, good luck to the Aussies, they truely belong to the WG and I hope they'll get back next year.

Action Jackson
09-23-2007, 09:20 AM
The Serbs lifted their game in the middle of the 2nd set and deserved to win this match and as for the antics, they weren't surprising at all within the DC environment.

rada
09-23-2007, 11:31 AM
it's DC and the crowd was fine, i loved it :)

StevoTG
09-23-2007, 01:37 PM
it's DC and the crowd was fine, i loved it :)

Bang on, this is what DC is like, I wish the result was different but the atmosphere in DC ties is special and is the main reason why I love DC.

Farenhajt
09-23-2007, 10:17 PM
As I said, Serbs played better than us, i know that.

But there is a point where you are taking it too far, how unfair is it when we having court that's almost unplayable to begin with, while your players are encouraging the poor crowd behaviour, it's too tough to ask for anyone to play well. I'm sick of having of watch these away ties where they seem to have no respect at all. It isn't right. Nole acted like a wanker, any person should of been able to of seen that.

Several points:

1. The state of the court wasn't (and never will be) the players' responsibility. An Austrian company was hired to make the court, so all your complaints should go to them.

(Subpoint: If Morissey had no reason to take steps, I don't see why YOU find yourself more competent to judge the state of the court - I seriously doubt you're any kind of official to Davis Cup... Oh right, sorry - your guys flied a preemptive excuse and you fell for it. Well, don't be a sucker next time.)

2. Nole didn't encourage the crowd to behave BADLY - did he do anything disrespectful towards AUS players, in front of 20,000 pairs of eyes? No. The problem is the CROWD ITSELF which took it too far. But hey, THEIR guys were kicking some Austrialian ass, so it's totally OK. And besides, there's a system of penalties for intolerable rooting, which we did see in action to a mild extent.

Conclusion: Nothing in your post is remotely objective. You're just trying to pin down everything on Nole, but it's not going to work, my dear hurting Nole-hater.

(3. An anticipation: Nole is a real bastard for not retiring from his match in order to promptly visit ill Llegs, bring him cookies and fruit and chat for a while...)

RickDaStick
09-23-2007, 11:21 PM
Several points:

1. The state of the court wasn't (and never will be) the players' responsibility. An Austrian company was hired to make the court, so all your complaints should go to them.

(Subpoint: If Morissey had no reason to take steps, I don't see why YOU find yourself more competent to judge the state of the court - I seriously doubt you're any kind of official to Davis Cup... Oh right, sorry - your guys flied a preemptive excuse and you fell for it. Well, don't be a sucker next time.)

2. Nole didn't encourage the crowd to behave BADLY - did he do anything disrespectful towards AUS players, in front of 20,000 pairs of eyes? No. The problem is the CROWD ITSELF which took it too far. But hey, THEIR guys were kicking some Austrialian ass, so it's totally OK. And besides, there's a system of penalties for intolerable rooting, which we did see in action to a mild extent.

Conclusion: Nothing in your post is remotely objective. You're just trying to pin down everything on Nole, but it's not going to work, my dear hurting Nole-hater.

(3. An anticipation: Nole is a real bastard for not retiring from his match in order to promptly visit ill Llegs, bring him cookies and fruit and chat for a while...)


You say nothing in his post is remotely objective? Funny considering in the same post you say the crowd took it too far BUT it was totally ok :rolleyes:

Farenhajt
09-23-2007, 11:35 PM
Uh, pa onaj ko navija za Trubeka i ne može ništa razumeti, takav pojedinac ima ozbiljan poremećaj percepcije i kontakta sa stvarnošću...

*snowflake*
09-23-2007, 11:36 PM
I think we all agree that this is Davis Cup and that the general behavior is different but i and any other person have the right to be irked when 10 000 ppl is shouting above your head while you're watching your player getting ready to serve and even he is looking like wtf, oh and today was even better cause they decided to make waves while Novak was preparing to serve.
Also i can get irked when our own bench is saying "please tone it down a lil" like 4 times and the crowd just doesn't get it.
Also i can get irked when 20 000 ppl doesn't get that you can lose a point for that or even a game, but no, when you lose a point you should be even louder.

If i can sit there, cheer on top of my lungs and shut the hell up when needed i don't see why any other person can't. Just because they're "my people" and it's our court doesn't mean that i have to like and justify it.

As for Novak, i get that he's young and this is all new for him and that he's happy that he's playing and winning for his country and all, but still half of it came down to feeding his ego.

Farenhajt
09-24-2007, 02:20 PM
I seriously doubt your even from Serbia, uniq.ladii - but nice try impersonating "conscientious headmistress" in our team.

No Serbian fan would use words "Novak winning for his country", since that's supposed to be YOUR country as well. Try to keep track of such details when you get on a berating campaign next time.

(Al kao, kapiram da si još besna ko ris na njega što ti je skenjao onog tvog "hodajućeg seksa"...)

Bascule
09-24-2007, 03:33 PM
Ma uniq.ladii je sigurno iz "Moya zemlja Hrvatska", nemam nista protiv. Ali bi bilo lepo, unikatna, da ubuduce kad se ovde blate nasi ne gubis vreme...., e, i u Bangkoku, u 1/4 finalu (ako Nole uopste ode, a ima ga u programu), zna se za koga ces da navijas, pa srecno! (trebace mu).

*snowflake*
09-25-2007, 07:23 AM
Umm no, i'm not Croatian...born and raised in Belgrade but unlike 90% percent of the population i'm not blindly patriotic and i don't think everything that comes from Serbia is God given.
And it's nice to see how yall keep track of my posts, yes i was quite pissed when Carlos 'the walking sex' lost, but what you gon do...you win some you lose some :wavey:
Objektivnost ne znaci nepatriotizam - vredi zapamtiti ;)

Bascule
09-25-2007, 07:57 AM
Well, your rose font will definitely make me a blind patriotic, hehe. Ok, that means you are nice little girl. But, if you still wanna see "how yall keep track of your posts", you better change font, or... you're not gonna be taken seriously.
And, if you're born and raise in Belgrade it doesn't mean that you're not croat or any else nationality. Ali, ono sto sam mislila jeste, ako nas blate, mogla bi malo da se suzdrzavas. Mi nismo Svajcarska ili slicno, treba nam sva pomoc i kao zemlji i kao naciji. Mozda ti imas standard i ne vidis dalje od nosa, pa ne razumes "patriotizam", koji je u biti pozitivna stvar i nama posle svih sr... preko potrebna.

*snowflake*
09-25-2007, 03:08 PM
If someone is not going to take me seriously just because of the color of my font, that is not my problem, it doesn't say much about me but it says a lot about them.
And i really don't feel the need to prove my nationality to anyone. It's ridiculous to think that i will praise everything Serbian just because Serbia is my country. In order to critique others you need to start from yourself.

A ako cemo ostatak na srpskom evo: ono sto meni smata je ono sto je patriotizam postao, koji, slazem se, jeste u biti pozitivna stvar, ali zahvaljujuci raznim uticajima u proteklih 15-ak godina, je postao negativna stvar jer najveci broj ljudi misli da voleti svoju zemlju znaci mrzeti ostale, posebno susedne. Ja se na taj nivo necu spustati jer nemam tradicionalni srpski kompleks jadni mi, svi nas mrze i kompleks da smo mi u biti mnogo bolji od ostalih. Samo smo odgovorni za najveci broj stvari koje su nam se desile, godine lose politike su nas ovde dovele i vreme je da preuzmemo odgovornost i nastavimo dalje.
I izvini ali mene su ucili da je vazno imati stav, i necu se suzdrzavati samo zato sto nekome ne odgovara. Kapiram zasto mi to govoris i kapiram tvoj pristup ali se neslazem.
I nos mi je poprilicno mali tako da je neizbezno da vidim dalje od njega...

Bascule
09-25-2007, 03:21 PM
Mala, slatka unikatna, bez uvrede, nismo svi retardirani ako smo patriotski nastrojeni. Ima nas dosta i obrazovanih. Ja sam bila pionir i omladinac, isla u Kumrovec i Zagreb, i pevala im "Lijepu nasu". Onda ti je jasno kako sam vaspitavana. Nikad nijedan clan moje porodice nije manifestovao mrznju, ali ti mogu reci da sam sa jedne strane jedini potomak porodice sa sadasnjeg tla Hrvatske. I zaista ima mnogo ljudi koji su propatili i to ne svojom krivicom, vidim da si daleko od te price, ali nema veze. Idi na primer na neki od hrvatskih sajtova, pa ces videti da su oni jos u '92.
A patriotizam u sportu je krajnje normalna stvar i tu nema sta da ti smeta, primitivizam je nesto drugo. Samo mi je cudno da u duelu svog sugradjanina i stranca navijas za ovog drugog. A na to sam naletela kod jos par devojcica. Ali, dobro, sazreces i prosirices vidike, pa ce ti neke stvari mozda manje smetati. I ja sam u tvojim godinama malo posmatrala stvari ruzicasto. Ajde, u zdravlje!

explicit
09-25-2007, 04:40 PM
uniq.ladii, I couldn't agree with you more. :-)

Farenhajt
09-25-2007, 06:30 PM
Objektivnost ne znaci nepatriotizam - vredi zapamtiti ;)

Kao što ni "objektivnost" ne može biti maska za potcenjivački stav - što takođe vredi zapamtiti :) (Mada Peščanikovo stado to poriče iz sve snage...)

Bascule
09-25-2007, 11:43 PM
Sta da kazem, nego: napaljena klincadija, stide se svog porekla i uvlace se strancima. Malo se grana otvorila, a vi ko pusteni s lanca. Al, dobro, donekle vas i razumem, mada mi je vas stav povrsan krajnje. A predlog je: ima na Noletovom forumu tema "pricaj srpski da te ceo svet razume" i mislim da je to pravo mesto da medjusobno razmenimo misljenja i iskustva (neiskustva) vezano za naciju nam. Stranci ovde bas to ne kapiraju na pravi nacin, a pojedini zlobnici jedva docekaju isto, pa se to posle podvlaci kad se blate nasi sportisti

*snowflake*
09-28-2007, 12:08 PM
To sto neki ljudi i dalje zive u '92 ne opravdava druge da zive kao da su u navedenoj godini. Pametna stvar je dici se iznad toga i ne trositi ni vreme ni snagu na nazadne mozgove. Upravo zbog toga ne posecujem pomenute i slicne njima sajtove.

Da se stidim svog porekla bi bilo opravdano misliti da mi je u gornjem levom uglu zastava Lihtenstajna ili sl. ali s' obzirom da imam srpsku zastavu ta tvrdnja ne drzi vodu. I "grana" je svo vreme bila otvorena...

A i htela bih da se zahvalim sto ste mi pomogli da shvatim da je konstruktivni kriticizam misaona imenica u nasem drustvu i da nije moguce imati svoje misljenje a da te pritom ne izvredjaju. Ja tim tehnikama diskusije ne podlezem tako da vasu patriotsko-braniteljsku razmenu postova mozete da nastavite sami.



uniq.ladii, I couldn't agree with you more. :-)

Thank you.