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Semi-Final match-ups

Horatio Caine
05-28-2004, 08:44 PM
In light of all the upsets so far at the Open, who do you now reckon will reach the semis, final and be the ultimate winner?

Horatio Caine
05-28-2004, 09:02 PM
I think it will be Federer v Hewitt and Coria v Chela in the semis. Federer will prbably get to the final to play Coria and I think, after the final in Hamburg, Federer wil do a repeat performance.

Ballbuster
05-28-2004, 09:05 PM
same semis jez, but i'll take coria in the final

LCeh
05-28-2004, 09:09 PM
I agree with those 4 as well.

Since Wimbledon, Roger has been performing extremely well in finals. So if Roger and Coria both gets to final, I think Roger has the advantage. BUT, the problem is, that is if he gets to the final. There are lots of tough opponents out there for him, and I am not even sure if he can make the semis. If Roger gets to the semis though, he probably has the best chance out of the 4.

Iza
05-28-2004, 09:10 PM
i think it will be federer vs. safin and moya vs. coria.

Vass
05-28-2004, 09:10 PM
The semis seem too weak! No Moya, no Safin, no Nalbandian, no Ferrero, no.... The draw is....
If there's Safi and there's Moya, there's no Coria and ther is no Federer. Messed up. It should be Safin- Federer, Coria - Moya.

Horatio Caine
05-28-2004, 09:11 PM
i think it will be federer vs. safin and moya vs. coria.

Both of those are quarter-final match - ups! :)

naiwen
05-28-2004, 09:13 PM
The semis seem too weak! No Moya, no Safin, no Nalbandian, no Ferrero, no.... The draw is....

Moya is bang in form, but Ferrero is too weak now.
And in my opinion, Nalbandian plays better on hard court than on clay.

Corey Feldman
05-28-2004, 09:15 PM
federer v a.costa
moya v o.mutis

just to have a different outlook :)

Horatio Caine
05-28-2004, 09:17 PM
federer v a.costa
moya v o.mutis

just to have a different outlook :)

Mutis could certainly shock Chela if he is not on his guard. Mutis has now got a tremendous confidence boost and will be difficult to put away though Chela is several levels better than him. Mutis would only get to semis if he plays llodra i think.

CoriaFan4ever
05-28-2004, 09:31 PM
coria vs. chela
federer vs. costa

joeb_uk
05-28-2004, 09:40 PM
these semis are the matchups im interested in most! i will be there.
i think the semis will be
fed - gaudio/hewitt/costa
coria - chela/henman

joeb_uk
05-28-2004, 09:41 PM
i could actually see tim getting to the semis! i am starting to believe it even more now

Yashirobai
05-28-2004, 09:47 PM
Federer (second option: Safin) vs Costa (s.o.: Verkerk)
Coria (s. o.: Moyá) vs Chela (s.o.: Henman)

Horatio Caine
05-28-2004, 09:51 PM
i could actually see tim getting to the semis! i am starting to believe it even more now

Yeah so can i but i am too scared to put it down! It sounds so unreal! :haha:

Corey Feldman
05-29-2004, 12:23 AM
Yeah so can i but i am too scared to put it down! It sounds so unreal! :haha:
surprise french open runs :

1990 W french open: andres gomez
1994 SF french open: magnus larsson
1996 SF french open: marc rosset
1997 SF french open: filip dewulf
1998 SF french open: cedric pioline
1999 SF french open: fernando meligeni
2000 SF french open: franco squillari
2003 F french open: martin verkerk

2004 ? french open: ???(Henman)??? ;)

Horatio Caine
05-29-2004, 01:08 AM
surprise french open runs :

1990 W french open: andres gomez
1994 SF french open: magnus larsson
1996 SF french open: marc rosset
1997 SF french open: filip dewulf
1998 SF french open: cedric pioline
1999 SF french open: fernando meligeni
2000 SF french open: franco squillari
2003 F french open: martin verkerk

2004 ? french open: ???(Henman)??? ;)

Yeah baby i like the sound of a bit of that! :haha:

2004 W French Open: Tim Henman

As i will be present on court no.2 on the first day of Wimbledon this year, i would probably perform a streak if Henman won the French Open, just for everyone's benefit at MTF!!! :haha:

TheGrandstand
05-29-2004, 01:17 AM
As much as I'd liked to see Safin get to the semis and take this thing I think the two day struggle against Mantilla will hurt him. I'm not saying he's not fit but it will be more of a gruel for him to handle than a Santoro or a Corretja who have recovered from the long 5 setters to do alright in their next match. I think Safin could be in for a disappointing lost in his next match.

Leo
05-29-2004, 01:50 AM
Federer vs. Costa
Coria vs. Chela

willie
05-29-2004, 01:58 AM
I think it will be Federer vs Costa and Coria vs. Chela, the final Federer vs Cora, and the new champ Guillermo Coria!!! :D

CmonAussie
05-29-2004, 02:40 AM
* Minor change to my SF matchups considering Tiger Tim's stellar form@@

SF = Roger Dodger Fedex vs Rocky Llegs Cmon; Guillermo II vs Tiger Tim
FINAL = Hewitt vs Henman
Winner = Potato*-*! (6-7,6-7,6-1,6-1,6-0) Tim can't go the distance against Llegs!

Action Jackson
05-29-2004, 02:45 AM
* Minor change to my SF matchups considering Tiger Tim's stellar form@@

SF = Roger Dodger Fedex vs Rocky Llegs Cmon; Guillermo II vs Tiger Tim
FINAL = Hewitt vs Henman
Winner = Potato*-*! (6-7,6-7,6-1,6-1,6-0) Tim can't go the distance against Llegs!

Stop dreaming Hewitt is not winning a French Open now or ever, the only way he could win is if Henman made the final.

Action Jackson
05-29-2004, 02:46 AM
surprise french open runs :

1990 W french open: andres gomez
1994 SF french open: magnus larsson
1996 SF french open: marc rosset
1997 SF french open: filip dewulf
1998 SF french open: cedric pioline
1999 SF french open: fernando meligeni
2000 SF french open: franco squillari
2003 F french open: martin verkerk

2004 ? french open: ???(Henman)??? ;)

The difference is everyone of those players were much better on clay than Henman and have all won claycourt titles something Tim hasn't managed as yet.

WyveN
05-29-2004, 03:05 AM
Stop dreaming Hewitt is not winning a French Open now or ever, the only way he could win is if Henman made the final.

that would still require hewitt to make the final which will never happen, wouldnt be surprised at all if big martin takes lleyton out tonight

Action Jackson
05-29-2004, 04:35 AM
that would still require hewitt to make the final which will never happen, wouldnt be surprised at all if big martin takes lleyton out tonight

Agreed.

trixy
05-29-2004, 04:43 AM
Federer vs Gaudio
Coria vs Chela

those are the semis i think will happen these r the ones i want to happen

Kurten vs any1 i dont really care
Moya vs Chela

Corey Feldman
05-29-2004, 12:25 PM
The difference is everyone of those players were much better on clay than Henman and have all won claycourt titles something Tim hasn't managed as yet.


verkerk and Dewulf better clay courters than tim

yeah righty-ho :)

Action Jackson
05-29-2004, 12:42 PM
verkerk and Dewulf better clay courters than tim

yeah righty-ho :)

How many claycourt titles has Henman won? Nada, zilch

DeWulf made the 4th round of RG as well as the semis, he won Kitzbhuel.

Verkerk, well clay is his best surface and has won a title on clay and made one more final than Henman has at RG. Case closed.

CmonAussie
05-29-2004, 02:16 PM
How many claycourt titles has Henman won? Nada, zilch

DeWulf made the 4th round of RG as well as the semis, he won Kitzbhuel.

Verkerk, well clay is his best surface and has won a title on clay and made one more final than Henman has at RG. Case closed.
:rolleyes:
George Mate~ i thought you pride yourself on your facts ;) , well in this case you got it wrong cobber! Verkerk has never won a Clay title, yes he did make RG final but Verkerk's only ATP title was in Milan Indoors-> where he defeated Kafelnikov in the final last year :cool: .

BTW~ Henman is better on clay than you give him credit for; remember he's made SF at Monte Carlo 2yrs ago, also QF this year at MC, last year he defeated Younes in Casablanca DC, also took Ferrero to a tough 4-setter in Rd3 last year at RG when Mosquito won. We all know Henman gets nervous at QF/SF stage but this year he may surprise :worship:

If Hewitt & Henman meet in FO Final will i be the only one who envisaged it :p ?

Action Jackson
05-30-2004, 06:26 AM
:rolleyes:
George Mate~ i thought you pride yourself on your facts ;) , well in this case you got it wrong cobber! Verkerk has never won a Clay title, yes he did make RG final but Verkerk's only ATP title was in Milan Indoors-> where he defeated Kafelnikov in the final last year :cool: .

BTW~ Henman is better on clay than you give him credit for; remember he's made SF at Monte Carlo 2yrs ago, also QF this year at MC, last year he defeated Younes in Casablanca DC, also took Ferrero to a tough 4-setter in Rd3 last year at RG when Mosquito won. We all know Henman gets nervous at QF/SF stage but this year he may surprise :worship:

If Hewitt & Henman meet in FO Final will i be the only one who envisaged it :p ?

Yeah, I forgot Davydenko won Munich and not Verkerk, my mistake.

Henman or Hewitt are not winning RG. Actually I am quite aware of Henman's results on clay and unlike some others at least he is prepared to test himself and have a go on his least prefered surface.

Horatio Caine
05-30-2004, 10:25 AM
Actually I am quite aware of Henman's results on clay and unlike some others at least he is prepared to test himself and have a go on his least prefered surface.

:worship: Words of wisdom my friend!

Seriously, Henman could reach the final so long as he doesn't face Coria in the semis. Should Henman reach the semis i think he will put in a hugely determined performance rather than freeze and it will take a very spirited player to break him down. He would have to hope that Moya triumps over Coria in 5 sets and 5.5 hours! Besides, Chela has a good enough game to defeat Tim if he isn't playing that well...and i'm sure, unfortunately, that Tim will have an off-day as he usually does. As it is clay, it is unlikely that he would at this stage of the tournament, playing badly.

Hewitt MIGHT also reach the Roland Garros final. Federer has gone and the biggest threats are Nalbandian, Kuerten and Costa, of whom Lleyton could beat all of them on his day and if they were playing below - par. I cannot see a potential meeting with the King of Choke delaying his progress into the semis. However, I hope that Costa or Malisse schools him in the 4th round.

I could now see the follwoing happening in the semis this year:

Kuerten v Hewitt
Coria v Chela

Champion number 1
05-30-2004, 10:28 AM
Nalbandian v Costa - Nalbandian winning in 5 sets
Coria v Mutis - Coria winning in 3

Coria v Nalbandian - Coria winning in 4

Horatio Caine
05-30-2004, 10:35 AM
Nalbandian v Costa - Nalbandian winning in 5 sets
Coria v Mutis - Coria winning in 3

Coria v Nalbandian - Coria winning in 4

If Kuerten keeps on that amazing form then i think Nalbandian will self-destruct against him. Kuerten has a strong serve and Nalbandian's weakness has always been his serve - i think Nalbandian would struggle to hold his own in that match.

You cannot be serious about Mutis! Someone will take him down before the semis, even if it is Llodra!

Champion number 1
05-30-2004, 10:40 AM
Mutis is winnign currently v Chela. He is a telented player and I hope Franc ehave a semi-finalist at least there. if he gets there he will get ripped apart by Coria.

As for Kuerten, I will see if he can keep up that form, I think Nalbandian has as strong ground strokes as Kuerten and is more comfortbale on clay than what Federer was... you could see Federer wastn moving well at all yday, it would be different with Nalbandian.

WyveN
05-30-2004, 10:45 AM
I think Nalbandian has as strong ground strokes as Kuerten and is more comfortbale on clay than what Federer was... you could see Federer wastn moving well at all yday, it would be different with Nalbandian.

since when is Nalbandian a natural clay courter? It is likely his worst surface, I don't think he is to comfortable on it either.

Horatio Caine
05-30-2004, 10:46 AM
:eek: I didn't realise that Chela was on already and even worse, you're right, he's being pummelled!!! Nooooo - floor it Juan - Ignacio!

CmonAussie
05-30-2004, 11:07 AM
:worship: Words of wisdom my friend!

Seriously, Henman could reach the final so long as he doesn't face Coria in the semis. Should Henman reach the semis i think he will put in a hugely determined performance rather than freeze and it will take a very spirited player to break him down. He would have to hope that Moya triumps over Coria in 5 sets and 5.5 hours! Besides, Chela has a good enough game to defeat Tim if he isn't playing that well...and i'm sure, unfortunately, that Tim will have an off-day as he usually does. As it is clay, it is unlikely that he would at this stage of the tournament, playing badly.

Hewitt MIGHT also reach the Roland Garros final. Federer has gone and the biggest threats are Nalbandian, Kuerten and Costa, of whom Lleyton could beat all of them on his day and if they were playing below - par. I cannot see a potential meeting with the King of Choke delaying his progress into the semis. However, I hope that Costa or Malisse schools him in the 4th round.

I could now see the follwoing happening in the semis this year:

Kuerten v Hewitt
Coria v Chela
:wavey:
Yeah you may be right on the money there Jez :cool: .

* Kuerten v Hewitt
Coria v Chela ...... SF matchups are quite envisageable :) .

BTW~ Last time Hewitt played Kuerten the Aussie won 6-1,6-1.. in IW TMS Final last year. Of course we all know Lleyton can beat Guga on clay too~ since he managed it in Guga's Brazilian backyard a few years back when Kuerten was ranked No.1 :worship: .

-->> Therefore FINAL = Hewitt v Coria.... & Lleyton has much more experience in big pressure matches than Coria; so I give my boy a good shot to take down the master of dirt when it matters the most ;) :p .

BaselineSmash
05-30-2004, 11:55 AM
When Hewitt defeated Kuerten in the IW final 6-1 6-1, the Brazilian was playing his second match of the day and his dodgy hip saw to it that he could not perform at all. I saw the match, and it was a tragedy. That result is in no way reflective, whatsoever, of how a top-form Kuerten would fare against a top-form Hewitt on hardcourts or any other surface for that matter.

FryslanBoppe
05-31-2004, 05:29 AM
CmonAussie, there is no chance that there will be a Hewitt vs Henman final and that is the only way that Hewitt will win the French Open, or they decide to change the surface to hardcourt overnight.

Fedex
05-31-2004, 06:51 AM
:wavey:
Yeah you may be right on the money there Jez :cool: .

* Kuerten v Hewitt
Coria v Chela ...... SF matchups are quite envisageable :) .

BTW~ Last time Hewitt played Kuerten the Aussie won 6-1,6-1.. in IW TMS Final last year. Of course we all know Lleyton can beat Guga on clay too~ since he managed it in Guga's Brazilian backyard a few years back when Kuerten was ranked No.1 :worship: .

-->> Therefore FINAL = Hewitt v Coria.... & Lleyton has much more experience in big pressure matches than Coria; so I give my boy a good shot to take down the master of dirt when it matters the most ;) :p .
:haha: :haha: :haha: :lol: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: I know i can count on you to crack me up with all this 'Hewitt is going to win the FO' Shit!! When will you learn that Hewitt WILL NEVER win the French or ANY Slam for that matter. :( But to constantly say he will do the impossible, by beating Federer or Coria all the time, is just fucking annoying. Plain and Simple
That win against Guga on clay, is about eqaul to that Sampras Queens win. Total fluke, because both were so out of form. That match and IW were really badly played matches by Guga. If Hewitt does meet Guga in the semis, with the way he played against Roger the other day, i would say Hewitt would be fortunate to win more than a couple of games per set!! :) :cool:

FanOfHewitt
05-31-2004, 09:04 AM
That win against Guga on clay, is about eqaul to that Sampras Queens win. Total fluke, because both were so out of form. That match and IW were really badly played matches by Guga. If Hewitt does meet Guga in the semis, with the way he played against Roger the other day, i would say Hewitt would be fortunate to win more than a couple of games per set!! :) :cool:

Hewitt must be the luckiest player in the history of the game, always scoring these fluke wins when people are out of form. Guga was in terrible form becuase a week later he went on to win Monte Carlo and a week after that he was a finalist in Rome.

Kuerten is a better clay courter than Hewitt, no doubt about that at all, but Hewitt was the better player on the day. Accept it.

Lisbeth
05-31-2004, 09:44 AM
I think at least 12 of the guys left can win it - maybe not Henman but who knows what can happen? I don't think Lleyton's the favourite by any means but it's somewhat brave claiming to know the future, especially when it involves claiming that a former #1/slam winner (ANY former #1/slam winner) can never repeat their performance.

Keep up the good work, I mean luck, Lleyton! ;)

Corey Feldman
05-31-2004, 10:43 AM
How many claycourt titles has Henman won? Nada, zilch

DeWulf made the 4th round of RG as well as the semis, he won Kitzbhuel.

Verkerk, well clay is his best surface and has won a title on clay and made one more final than Henman has at RG. Case closed.


tim woulda won a clay title or two if he played those little shitty non-mandetory events like kitzbuhel-umag-sopot-valencia regularly :)


now henmans record is sf monte carlo, qf twice, qf hamburg, qf french open

i dont think you can say dewulf and verkerk are better on clay than tim cos of 1 lucky french open run they had each

Richard Cranium
05-31-2004, 10:53 AM
tim woulda won a clay title or two if he played those little shitty non-mandetory events like kitzbuhel-umag-sopot-valencia regularly :)


now henmans record is sf monte carlo, qf twice, qf hamburg, qf french open

i dont think you can say dewulf and verkerk are better on clay than tim cos of 1 lucky french open run they had each

Are you trying to be controversial here so you are trying to say Kitzbhuel is a shitty event? Then you don't have much of an idea that it's one of the best and highest scoring International Series events, so from 1992 in order the winners were Sampras, Muster, Goran, Albert Costa (3 times), Berasategui, DeWulf, Corretja (twice), Nico Lapentti and Coria have won it.

I am sorry from that winners list, Kitzbhuel is not a shitty event, Newport or Casablanca is a shitty event, and not Kitzbhuel.

Henman has not played a quality claycourter and now he meets the Chela the first one, he will lose.

argiesf
05-31-2004, 11:11 AM
Roland Garros 1999: Juniors Final - Nalbandian vs Coria...i have a feeling they will repeat it... btw Coria won that year

Corey Feldman
05-31-2004, 07:20 PM
Are you trying to be controversial here so you are trying to say Kitzbhuel is a shitty event? Then you don't have much of an idea that it's one of the best and highest scoring International Series events, so from 1992 in order the winners were Sampras, Muster, Goran, Albert Costa (3 times), Berasategui, DeWulf, Corretja (twice), Nico Lapentti and Coria have won it.

I am sorry from that winners list, Kitzbhuel is not a shitty event, Newport or Casablanca is a shitty event, and not Kitzbhuel.

Henman has not played a quality claycourter and now he meets the Chela the first one, he will lose.

kitzbuhel is shite

end of subject

rue
06-01-2004, 02:01 AM
Semi Final Match ups will be:

Nalbandian vs. Gaudio
Coria vs. Chela

There will be four Argentinians left to compete for the title as I predict. Hewitt and Henman don't really stand that much of a chance. Coria has beaten Moya the last three times they have played and I don't really think that he will get by him.

Supersonik
06-01-2004, 10:49 AM
kitzbuhel is shite

end of subject

Intelligent response I applaud such thoughtful analysis. Yes, all those winners and it's a shite tournament, well done Spock.

Corey Feldman
06-01-2004, 02:53 PM
Intelligent response I applaud such thoughtful analysis. Yes, all those winners and it's a shite tournament, well done Spock.

james blake, taylor dent and rusedski won newport

whats your logid dickwod ?