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Ram&Erlich outlast Massu&Gonzo 2:6 7:6 6:2 3:6 10:8 , Israel 2:1 Chile

Rogiman
09-21-2007, 02:57 PM
Good job, keeping the chilenos for 5 more hours on court :devil:

Israel favorites for the tie now.

Andre♥
09-21-2007, 02:57 PM
Massu has now played 10 hours in 2 days! :lol:

GlennMirnyi
09-21-2007, 02:59 PM
Never in doubt, but it's great anyway!

Fergie
09-21-2007, 03:00 PM
So close :bigcry:

Great effort Nico & Feña :hug:

adee-gee
09-21-2007, 03:00 PM
:worship: what an effort, and finished just in time for Yom Kippur :)

3 Jews on the court :p

Voo de Mar
09-21-2007, 03:00 PM
Massu has now played 10 hours in 2 days! :lol:

He's the only player who can do it ;)

Rogiman
09-21-2007, 03:00 PM
So close :bigcry:

Great effort Nico & Feña :hug::hug:

You win some, you lose some ;)

fabolous
09-21-2007, 03:01 PM
massu has an average of 67 minutes per set over these two days.

what is the record for hours spent on the court during a davis cup weekend?

+alonso
09-21-2007, 03:01 PM
Ram, the biggest jerk in the Israeli team! :ras:
Congrats I guess, Israeli team was the favorite and Chileans didn't make it easy for them, I'm proud
Now to win this on Sunday!

Chileno
09-21-2007, 03:02 PM
Break point conversions:

Israel: 5 / 8 (62%)
Chile: 5 / 13 (38%) :smash:

GlennMirnyi
09-21-2007, 03:02 PM
:worship: what an effort, and finished just in time for Yom Kippur :)

3 Jews on the court :p

3? Who else is jewish?

*Viva Chile*
09-21-2007, 03:03 PM
Massu has now played 10 hours in 2 days! :lol:

that's great news, do you remember the olympics? :p

Nico and Feña :bigcry:

ReturnWinner
09-21-2007, 03:03 PM
i was doing zapping on TVCHILE and catched the match in 0 40 *3-4 serving Gonzalez in the fifht set,the Israeli couple was happy as hell, and the match was played as expected,with the israeli duo


playing the very most times at the net and charging most times on


massu :o, and the chilean duo playing from the baseline , most times hitting with their forehands

MusicMyst
09-21-2007, 03:04 PM
Well done, Ehlich/Ram! :worship:

Rogiman
09-21-2007, 03:04 PM
3? Who else is jewish?Massu's mother I think :shrug:

4 south-americans on court as well.

Horatio Caine
09-21-2007, 03:04 PM
Very bad news for Chile...you got the sense that the longer they were kept on court, the more vital the doubles win would become.

Not sure what I'd do if I were Massu / Chilean DC captain. They have a day off, but Massu is currently a liability. There again, would a replacement singles player stand any more chance than him in a live 5th rubber (a 4th rubber Gonzo win isn't a certainty, but he should clinch it), where nerves are also likely to play a part?

GlennMirnyi
09-21-2007, 03:06 PM
Massu's mother I think :shrug:

4 south-americans on court as well.

Funny enough.

Deboogle!.
09-21-2007, 03:08 PM
Andyoni :yeah:

*Viva Chile*
09-21-2007, 03:09 PM
Massu's mother I think :shrug:

4 south-americans on court as well.

Tía Sonia (Nico's mom) is jew but not Nico, because Massu's dad is catholic I think... I'm not sure.

Sparko1030
09-21-2007, 03:09 PM
:rocker2: Great effort by the Chleans. Both had long matches yesterday yet almost beat double team speacialists. A win would have been great of course but I think they did give it their all and what more can one ask?

congrats to Isreal-may the best team win Sunday :hatoff:

Rogiman
09-21-2007, 03:11 PM
Tía Sonia (Nico's mom) is jew but not Nico, because Massu's dad is catholic I think... I'm not sure.Going by the Jewish rules that means he's a Kosher Jew :)

I don't think he feels very jewish though and neither do I :tape:

Sparko1030
09-21-2007, 03:11 PM
Ethnically Nico is half Jewish. I bellieve their parents raised them in both religions (Jewish and Catholic) traditions.

cobalt60
09-21-2007, 03:12 PM
:banana:

Albop
09-21-2007, 03:16 PM
damn, that was close chileans

ram is a ass :retard:

to win this the sunday please ¡¡¡¡

Pigpen Stinks
09-21-2007, 03:17 PM
Glad to see the doubles team win.

napki
09-21-2007, 03:24 PM
:dance:

damn, that was close chileans

ram is a ass :retard:

to win this the sunday please ¡¡¡¡

makes me wonder what he did this time :p

+alonso
09-21-2007, 03:24 PM
damn, that was close chileans

ram is a ass :retard:

to win this the sunday please ¡¡¡¡

I know :o! Very disrespectful act! :o He should of have recieved a warning

+alonso
09-21-2007, 03:26 PM
:dance:



makes me wonder what he did this time :p
After ending a point, Massu fell in his side of the court and lost the point, and from the other side Ram comes close to him and start yelling at Nicolas like a jerk that He had won the point, like celebrating it :o It looked very awful

NicoFan
09-21-2007, 04:13 PM
Kudos to the Israeli team. A hard fought win on their side.

But a special WOOT for the Chileans. :yeah: They weren't expected to win, but they took an excellent doubles specialist team to the limit.

NicoFan
09-21-2007, 04:20 PM
I need to read through the threads before I post.

Now add Ram to the list of players for the Israeli team that aren't well behaved. :lol:

And yes, Nico's mom once talked in an article about how Nico and his brothers were given instruction in both religions and were given the choice to decide for themselves.

(EDIT: If I remember correctly, she also said that although they went to Catholic school, that they didn't have to take the religion classes. But could be remembering wrong. It was awhile back that I read the article, and I don't care what religion Nico is so I didn't pay that much attention to it. But I do remember very clearly that she said that they were given instruction in both religions and were given the choice to decide for themselves because I thought that was very cool of his parents.)

I'm paraphrasing, but Nico was asked about it this week in Israel - he said he hasn't yet decided. He left it with - I believe in God.

Basically his religion is his business, and no one else's. :)

Uraitan
09-21-2007, 04:21 PM
Congrats, Ram/Erlich ... :banana:

Good job ... :D

TMJordan
09-21-2007, 04:21 PM
:woohoo:

One more win :rocker2:

propi
09-21-2007, 04:33 PM
:confused:
I thought DC was played Frida, Saturday and Sunday... being Saturday the day for doubles :confused:

Deboogle!.
09-21-2007, 04:34 PM
:confused:
I thought DC was played Frida, Saturday and Sunday... being Saturday the day for doubles :confused:Friday night to Saturday night is a very very very important Jewish holiday so they were allowed to play Thursday, Friday, and Sunday for this tie :)

propi
09-21-2007, 04:46 PM
Friday night to Saturday night is a very very very important Jewish holiday so they were allowed to play Thursday, Friday, and Sunday for this tie :)
Oooh! I see, that explains that all, but OTOH the Chileans will have more time to rest, I don't know if that will favour Israel a lot (but seeing how Massu is playing) :tape::tape: :p
Thanks for the explanation anyway.

Merton
09-21-2007, 04:46 PM
Congrats Israel, they must be the favourites now in this tie.

cobalt60
09-21-2007, 04:47 PM
Good job, keeping the chilenos for 5 more hours on court :devil:

Israel favorites for the tie now.

BTW you forgot there is a day off tomorrow :angel:

Rogiman
09-21-2007, 04:50 PM
BTW you forgot there is a day off tomorrow :angel:10 hours on court for an anyway awful Massu will do the job with or without the day off.

scarecrows
09-21-2007, 04:52 PM
:hatoff:

took more than expected though

Or Levy
09-21-2007, 04:57 PM
Oh boy, oh boy - what a match! My first Davis cup match, my first live Tennis match. It was fantastic. I'm totally and completely burned, my arms, my legs, at least I had a hat. What was I thinking not putting sunscreen on?

At the last hour, it was getting very tense - I honestly don't know what they would have done had Yom Kippur entered. I mean - the match would have had to stop, Andy and Yoni can't play on Yom Kippur.

Anyway, what a great win. Andy couldn't believe it when he won. I couldn't believe it that they won either. Got a lot of love from the crowd, would have broken sooner in the fifth set if not for the umpire, ugh.

And poor Massu, 10:30 hours of running in two days :) Gotta love it.

Gonzo smashed his racquet, and whinned, whinned, whinned about the crowd.

cobalt60
09-21-2007, 05:03 PM
Oh boy, oh boy - what a match! My first Davis cup match, my first live Tennis match. It was fantastic. I'm totally and completely burned, my arms, my legs, at least I had a hat. What was I thinking not putting sunscreen on?

At the last hour, it was getting very tense - I honestly don't know what they would have done had Yom Kippur entered. I mean - the match would have had to stop, Andy and Yoni can't play on Yom Kippur.

Anyway, what a great win. Andy couldn't believe it when he won. I couldn't believe it that they won either. Got a lot of love from the crowd, would have broken sooner in the fifth set if not for the umpire, ugh.

And poor Massu, 10:30 hours of running in two days :) Gotta love it.

Gonzo smashed his racquet, and whinned, whinned, whinned about the crowd.

All those emotions must have been running so high from everyone! I bet it was an incredible atmosphere. Care to share any other views of this your "first" ( hopefully not your last) tennis match? I knew it would be a great match. Such an important rubber for everyone involved. Have a great day off to those who celebrate;)

NicoFan
09-21-2007, 05:04 PM
Gonzo smashed his racquet, and whinned, whinned, whinned about the crowd.

:haha:

Wow...what hypocrisy.

Sela trashes Nico before their match.

Okun has proved himself to be a misognyst prick.

And Ram didn't behave well in this match according to the reports here.

Yeah - what angels the Israeli team are compared to those ill-mannered Chileans. ;) :lol: :lol:

Julio1974
09-21-2007, 05:08 PM
Oh boy, oh boy - what a match! My first Davis cup match, my first live Tennis match. It was fantastic. I'm totally and completely burned, my arms, my legs, at least I had a hat. What was I thinking not putting sunscreen on?

At the last hour, it was getting very tense - I honestly don't know what they would have done had Yom Kippur entered. I mean - the match would have had to stop, Andy and Yoni can't play on Yom Kippur.

Anyway, what a great win. Andy couldn't believe it when he won. I couldn't believe it that they won either. Got a lot of love from the crowd, would have broken sooner in the fifth set if not for the umpire, ugh.

And poor Massu, 10:30 hours of running in two days :) Gotta love it.

Gonzo smashed his racquet, and whinned, whinned, whinned about the crowd.

A Chilean whining about crowd behaviour in DC? This is really funny...

Or Levy
09-21-2007, 05:47 PM
Well, I had decent spots, I suppose. The Whole arena is so small, there aren't really bad spots.

It was fun, you really have to respect how hard these guys are working under that hot, hot sun.

You pick up on a lot of things when you watch live that you don't see when you watch TV, the way the team interact, signaling and calling to each other who is going to take the ball.

Gonzo has some blistering forehands, served pretty well - Yoni and Andy were almost unable to play well at the same time.

They never do that great in Davis cup matches, play beneath their usual level (unlike the rest of the team - I guess that's the difference between being the underdogs like our single players, and being nearly always the favorites like our doubles players).

The crowd was great, the Chillean actually had a nice group of fans traveling with them.

peluzon
09-21-2007, 06:17 PM
Congratulations to Israel team from Chile ,,, what a big big heart to fight and play.


Anyway I think that Chile will win. Nico can not loose , his frustration is huge this time and he knows that he can do it better. And Gonzo will win for sure

Sparko1030
09-21-2007, 07:12 PM
After ending a point, Massu fell in his side of the court and lost the point, and from the other side Ram comes close to him and start yelling at Nicolas like a jerk that He had won the point, like celebrating it :o It looked very awful


I was just following the sb so I had no idea that happened. I will have to take back my congrats to E/R then. Very poor behavior. Where are the behavior police now? ;) :lol:

Juliet
09-21-2007, 07:25 PM
:haha:

Wow...what hypocrisy.

Sela trashes Nico before their match.

Okun has proved himself to be a misognyst prick.

And Ram didn't behave well in this match according to the reports here.

Yeah - what angels the Israeli team are compared to those ill-mannered Chileans. ;) :lol: :lol:

Couldn't agree with you more, Nicofan!!!

Or Levy
09-21-2007, 07:47 PM
Where did Dudi trash Nico? By saying he had a chance? He did, and he took it.

Okun's comments were insulting to Shahar, I'm sure she'll give him a piece of her mind later on.

And I was in the match, and I haven't noticed anything unusual Andy did when Nico fell - but I'll check up on that.

cobalt60
09-21-2007, 08:04 PM
Where did Dudi trash Nico? By saying he had a chance? He did, and he took it.

Okun's comments were insulting to Shahar, I'm sure she'll give him a piece of her mind later on.

And I was in the match, and I haven't noticed anything unusual Andy did when Nico fell - but I'll check up on that.
Confidence is key- if you don't think you have a chance to win, don't play. I certainly hope Shahar gives him what for;)
I certainly believe you :yeah: Over reactions maybe?

ChinoRios4Ever
09-21-2007, 09:29 PM
congrats to Israel :yeah:

but Ram sucks big time, what a fuc..ng idiot :ras: :mad:

Bad Religion
09-21-2007, 11:41 PM
What a shame

Any country in the world can't lose to Israel

Rogiman
09-22-2007, 12:25 AM
What a shame

Any country in the world can't lose to IsraelUK? Italy?

On sunday we'll welcome Chile to the list :haha:

Albop
09-22-2007, 12:28 AM
UK? Italy?

On sunday we'll welcome Chile to the list :haha:

no way

http://forums.relicnews.com/images/smilies/dontknowaboutyou.gif

Rogiman
09-22-2007, 12:34 AM
no way

http://forums.relicnews.com/images/smilies/dontknowaboutyou.gifSeriously, I believe Chile is better than Israel, if only for Gonzo who's better than our entire team alone, and anyone who knows me would tell you I don't give a fart about DC, but antisemitic posters like Bad Religion make me want Noam to kick some serious Chilean ass on sunday.

GonzoFed
09-22-2007, 02:12 AM
Ok, this lost was expected and Fernando and Massú put a good fight out there. On Sunday Gonzo should beat dudi, probably in 4 or 5 and with a lot of inconsistent play, but nevertheless he will get the job done i think. He got used to the balls and court at the end of the Okun match. Finally since Gildemeister confirmed Massu for the fifth rubber, i must confessed that i'm in Allez mode right know....it's going to be tough :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:..anything can happen.

PS: Nico, please prove us (the chileans) wrong.

Albop
09-22-2007, 04:10 AM
Seriously, I believe Chile is better than Israel, if only for Gonzo who's better than our entire team alone, and anyone who knows me would tell you I don't give a fart about DC, but antisemitic posters like Bad Religion make me want Noam to kick some serious Chilean ass on sunday.

dont worry he is an idiot :rolleyes:

FelipeMIA89
09-22-2007, 03:20 PM
Ok.. the point is that after what Ram did yesterday.. I'm glad chile will kick some a** this sunday =)

Andre♥
09-22-2007, 03:23 PM
Is it that hard to understand that Capdeville is ten times better than Massu right now?

I like Nico, but he's gonna get crushed in the 5th rubber and the media will kill him on the next day...

krakenzero
09-22-2007, 04:16 PM
Is it that hard to understand that Capdeville is ten times better than Massu right now?

I like Nico, but he's gonna get crushed in the 5th rubber and the media will kill him on the next day...


The main problem is that Gildemeister is a moron and doesn't have the balls to replace Massu when he is clearly a bad choice for singles. This is not Massu's fault, he's doing all he can do right now.

Unfortunately, I think now it's too late for a change to be completely positive... if HG picks Capdeville for the 5th rubber and he wins, Capdeville will be a hero, Massu will be destroyed inside, and Hans will be attacked by the media for not putting Paul in the 1st rubber. If he lose, we're all doomed (Massu, Paul, Hans, etc... I think only Gonzo could be relaxed). The best for Gilde"strategy"meister (only for him) would be Massu in the 5th rubber. If he wins, he and Nico are heroes. If he loses, they're both going down, but Gonzo and Paul won't be blamed for anything. So I think he's going to pick Massu, and we're going to lose:sad: ...

P.D: Again, "Familia del Tenis Chileno", thanks a lot!:mad:

Sunset of Age
09-23-2007, 01:15 AM
Hi there Jew Crew... just wanted to congratulate you guys & girls with this win. Must've been a lovely Yom Kippur for you tennis fans out there today! ;)

Archer16
09-23-2007, 01:19 AM
Oh boy, oh boy - what a match! My first Davis cup match, my first live Tennis match. It was fantastic. I'm totally and completely burned, my arms, my legs, at least I had a hat. What was I thinking not putting sunscreen on?

At the last hour, it was getting very tense - I honestly don't know what they would have done had Yom Kippur entered. I mean - the match would have had to stop, Andy and Yoni can't play on Yom Kippur.

Anyway, what a great win. Andy couldn't believe it when he won. I couldn't believe it that they won either. Got a lot of love from the crowd, would have broken sooner in the fifth set if not for the umpire, ugh.

And poor Massu, 10:30 hours of running in two days :) Gotta love it.

Gonzo smashed his racquet, and whinned, whinned, whinned about the crowd.
Well, I had decent spots, I suppose. The Whole arena is so small, there aren't really bad spots.

It was fun, you really have to respect how hard these guys are working under that hot, hot sun.

You pick up on a lot of things when you watch live that you don't see when you watch TV, the way the team interact, signaling and calling to each other who is going to take the ball.

Gonzo has some blistering forehands, served pretty well - Yoni and Andy were almost unable to play well at the same time.

They never do that great in Davis cup matches, play beneath their usual level (unlike the rest of the team - I guess that's the difference between being the underdogs like our single players, and being nearly always the favorites like our doubles players).

The crowd was great, the Chillean actually had a nice group of fans traveling with them.
(A late response because I don't use a computer on Yom Kippur)

As I said elsewhere, it was a first for me too, and I know I'll never forget it :)
I really hesitated about going because I didn't have a ticket and was worried I'm going for nothing, but it was worth the risk and I had nothing to worry about.
Great seat, pretty close to the "marked seats" and right in the middle.
As for the sun, same here, but at least I had long jeans, a small towel originally for sweat but turned into a neck-sunblocker, and thank god for Kia people giving away hats.
If not for some good people sitting near me, I couldn't even return home, but I just made it for the meal. Surely the match would have been stopped at 9-9 or 10-10 (did you notice the scoreboard showing 0-8 in the end? :lol: ) Some people had to leave in the middle of the 5th, a pity for them.

The Chilean fans were quite loud for their number, both crowds were great.

I don't think missing the 3 BP's at 4-3 was the umpire's fault. I was so worried at 6-6 15-40...
And Ram did say something after winning the point with Massu lying down, but you can't really know what it was unless you ask one of them, so I wouldn't make a big deal out of it.

We have to take this chance. If Okun keep the level he showed vs Gonzo he will beat Massu. And Shahar can beat him later, in the other sense of the word ;)