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Jose Mourinho quits as Chelsea's manager

ChinoRios4Ever
09-20-2007, 01:59 AM
:eek::eek::eek: WTF? :wavey:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/7003912.stm

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/sport/article-23412914-details/Jose%3A+It%27s+all+over+-+Chelsea+boss+texts+players+to+say+he%27s+leaving/article.do

http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LandingPage/0,,10268~1031634,00.html

http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news;_ylt=AhXFSM2pWQo5h7crUY0koOg5nYcB?slug=ap-chelsea-mourinhoquits&prov=ap&type=lgns

CassL
09-20-2007, 05:18 AM
Chelsea's worst decision. What can I say? Love you Jose.

baghdatis
09-20-2007, 06:09 AM
:eek:

Baghdatis72
09-20-2007, 06:15 AM
This was slightly unexpected to be honest :eek:

I can't think of a better manager than Mourinho atm.

Jelena
09-20-2007, 07:25 AM
Completely unexpected but the best news that could appear on my provider after quite a short night. :yawn: :angel:

LK_22
09-20-2007, 08:30 AM
The Chelsea board have finally pushed him too far then :retard:
Good luck Jose whereever you go, I'm sure you'll have success :yeah:
Can't see Chelsea finding anyone to replace 'The Special One' Capello might be the man for the job, but Chelsea will really miss Mourinho

Action Jackson
09-20-2007, 08:36 AM
The special one couldn't handle the annoying dwarf interfering.

LeChuck
09-20-2007, 08:38 AM
This is terrible news for Chelsea fans, and the Premiership in general. Chelsea hadn't won a league title for 50 years, then he came along won 2 in as many seasons.

Jimnik
09-20-2007, 09:27 AM
%^(%^&(%^&(%^&*(%&*($£^$%^& :banghead:

Totally baffling decision on both sides.

guille&tati4life
09-20-2007, 10:14 AM
:wavey: see you Jose.

Apart from Capello there is no-one better than Mourinho. I hope Roman doesn't have Capello lined up :scared:

Baghdatis72
09-20-2007, 10:16 AM
This is terrible news for Chelsea fans, and the Premiership in general. Chelsea hadn't won a league title for 50 years, then he came along won 2 in as many seasons.

Is this the beginning of bad things to come? :eek:

%^(%^&(%^&(%^&*(%&*($£^$%^& :banghead:

Totally baffling decision on both sides.

I know this is a mess. Roman wants to have total control of the team and that might create great problems :(

Jaap
09-20-2007, 10:28 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Chelsea are finished. A small time club anyway that got above their station due to Roman's billions. When Roman leaves, they will be back where they belong i.e a middle of the range club.

amdany
09-20-2007, 11:40 AM
:eek: :sad: Jose:tears:

Aleka
09-20-2007, 12:36 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :sobbing: :sobbing: :sobbing: :sobbing: :sobbing: :sobbing:

Fuuuuuuuuuuck :bigcry: :banghead:

Jimnik
09-20-2007, 12:41 PM
:wavey: see you Jose.

Apart from Capello there is no-one better than Mourinho. I hope Roman doesn't have Capello lined up :scared:
Hopefully not. If Roman thought Mourinho played negative football what the hell would he think of Capello, the master of grinding out 1-0 wins.

Don't get me wrong Capello is a top manager but he doesn't know the English game, or even speak the language, and I can see Roman losing patience with him very quickly.

Is this the beginning of bad things to come? :eek:


I know this is a mess. Roman wants to have total control of the team and that might create great problems :(
Indeed, it just looks like a ship that's doomed to sink. Roman is putting an Israeli friend of his in charge and if he fails to win instantly the next victim, Hiddink or Capello, will be put to the test. It could just turn into complete chaos or at best we'll be another Real Madrid where the players run the club and the manager is there just for the sake of it.

Baghdatis72
09-20-2007, 12:51 PM
We'll have to wait and see. Roman has something planned imo.

Burrow
09-20-2007, 01:19 PM
Mourinho is a fucking headcase, Chelski wont win anything this year.

Burrow
09-20-2007, 01:21 PM
This is terrible news for Chelsea fans, and the Premiership in general. Chelsea hadn't won a league title for 50 years, then he came along won 2 in as many seasons.
The reason why Chelski won the Premiership is because of Roman, he brought money. Not because of Mourinho, and that is blaring.

Burrow
09-20-2007, 01:29 PM
The special one couldn't handle the annoying dwarf interfering.

If you are reffering to Abramovich as the "annoying dwarf" (for some reason) - he can do what the hell he wants, it's his club.

qczi
09-20-2007, 01:40 PM
Mourinho is a fucking headcase, Chelski wont win anything this year.

The reason why Chelski won the Premiership is because of Roman, he brought money. Not because of Mourinho, and that is blaring.

isnt this a bit of a paradox? :scratch:
if you think the success came because of roman's money and not jose's capabilities nothing should change this season. mr money is still there :wavey:

chelsea was just another mediocre club before mourinho and he won 2 premier league titles for them in 3 seasons :worship:

Action Jackson
09-20-2007, 01:47 PM
If you are reffering to Abramovich as the "annoying dwarf" (for some reason) - he can do what the hell he wants, it's his club.

Facts are this. Abramovich has the cash, he should stick to what he knows and that isn't the day to day football tactical side of things, that are done on the training paddock and put into practice on the pitch.

Mourinho is the one that got them to play together as a unit when they actually won things.

Yes, he is annoying dwarf, who wanted to hide some Russian money into a broke London club. He doesn't give a fuck about football, it's about the cash for him.

LeChuck
09-20-2007, 01:47 PM
The reason why Chelski won the Premiership is because of Roman, he brought money. Not because of Mourinho, and that is blaring.

True Roman's roubles were the main reason behind Chelsea success, but Mourinho deserves a hell of a lot of credit and was still a major factor. He moulded a team of superstars together into a cohesive unit and that isn't always an easy thing to do. The team spirit there was fantastic. The players were saying that his training methods, approach to fitness etc was revolutionary. Joe Cole became a much better player thanks to him, and developed more of a cutting edge and was less wasteful when he had possession. Mourinho was a great motivator, and was an expert at taking the pressure off his players before they headed onto the pitch.
Hector Cuper had shed loads of money to spend at Inter Milan and didn't win anything, so money doesn't always guarentee success.
Even with the money he had to spend, I don't think that there are many managers in world football who could have replicated the success that he brought to the club.

Burrow
09-20-2007, 02:09 PM
isnt this a bit of a paradox? :scratch:
if you think the success came because of roman's money and not jose's capabilities nothing should change this season. mr money is still there :wavey:

chelsea was just another mediocre club before mourinho and he won 2 premier league titles for them in 3 seasons :worship:

I never said Chelski wont win anything BECAUSE Mourinho has left.

Give Wigan the amount of money Chelski have spent, and Wigan would be in the champions league.

All because of money.

DRXX
09-20-2007, 02:10 PM
Roman uses attacking while Cappelo uses defense...

I want Cappelo to coach Chelsea. And i heard that Mourhino will be coaching Portugal now..

Burrow
09-20-2007, 02:11 PM
Facts are this. Abramovich has the cash, he should stick to what he knows and that isn't the day to day football tactical side of things, that are done on the training paddock and put into practice on the pitch.

Mourinho is the one that got them to play together as a unit when they actually won things.

Yes, he is annoying dwarf, who wanted to hide some Russian money into a broke London club. He doesn't give a fuck about football, it's about the cash for him.

He can do what he wants, despite what you say. There is no rule saying he can't have a say in the team beside financial matters.

I still don't know why you use the word dwarf. Normally used for smaller people, he is not a small man.

Burrow
09-20-2007, 02:12 PM
True Roman's roubles were the main reason behind Chelsea success, but Mourinho deserves a hell of a lot of credit and was still a major factor. He moulded a team of superstars together into a cohesive unit and that isn't always an easy thing to do. The team spirit there was fantastic. The players were saying that his training methods, approach to fitness etc was revolutionary. Joe Cole became a much better player thanks to him, and developed more of a cutting edge and was less wasteful when he had possession. Mourinho was a great motivator, and was an expert at taking the pressure off his players before they headed onto the pitch.
Hector Cuper had shed loads of money to spend at Inter Milan and didn't win anything, so money doesn't always guarentee success.
Even with the money he had to spend, I don't think that there are many managers in world football who could have replicated the success that he brought to the club.

Maybe Joe Cole improved a little because of the team that was around him??

anyways...Joe Cole? :lol:

Action Jackson
09-20-2007, 02:12 PM
I never said Chelski wont win anything BECAUSE Mourinho has left.

Give Wigan the amount of money Chelski have spent, and Wigan would be in the champions league.

All because of money.

Doesn't work like that necessarily.

Inter spend stupid amounts of money and they only won the Serie A cause of a scandal.

When Man Utd specifically tried to buy titles, it didn't work and then Fergie won it with a lot of local players.

Real Madrid when they wanted to be galaticos, once they got rid of the some of the big stars, they started winning more titles.

Action Jackson
09-20-2007, 02:15 PM
He can do what he wants, despite what you say. There is no rule saying he can't have a say in the team beside financial matters.

I still don't know why you use the word dwarf. Normally used for smaller people, he is not a small man.

Ok, I own a private hospital, but I am not qualified to be a doctor, but I can give advice in the medical field to people who are in a better and more qualified position than myself.

Chairmen don't pick teams, he knows shit all about football. Sticking to making money is his specialiity, not interfering in team selections.

LeChuck
09-20-2007, 02:20 PM
Maybe Joe Cole improved a little because of the team that was around him??

anyways...Joe Cole? :lol:

Compare Joe Cole in the 1st half of the 2004/2005 and the 2nd half, and the difference was immense. Even he admitted that he became a much better player thanks to Mourinho's man management skills. In so many tight away matches, he popped up at crucial moments with goals. He created far more goals as well, and became much more assured with his weaker left foot.

amdany
09-20-2007, 02:41 PM
Ok, I own a private hospital, but I am not qualified to be a doctor, but I can give advice in the medical field to people who are in a better and more qualified position than myself.

Chairmen don't pick teams, he knows shit all about football. Sticking to making money is his specialiity, not interfering in team selections.

well said:yeah:

Hey guys and what about Drogba? What will he do, I mean they were very close with Jose:sad: and in an interview he gave to a french tv a few months ago, Jose said approximatively "if I leave Chelsea, I'll do my pssible to bring Didier with me" and he said something like "if we were in a war,Didier would be my best soldier with me: I have all faith in him"

Baghdatis72
09-20-2007, 03:05 PM
Chelsea without Mourinho won't be the same imo. Ranieri had all the money of Roman and didn't manage to win it and the same will happen to the next manager of Chelsea unfortunately :(

Abramovich thinks he is playing Football Manager with real teams and players it seems :eek:

TheBoiledEgg
09-20-2007, 04:31 PM
best thing ever.......... the arrogant one is gone.
now for Roman to be imprisoned and Chelsea to be made into Leeds would be even sweeter.

Jimnik
09-20-2007, 04:34 PM
well said:yeah:

Hey guys and what about Drogba? What will he do, I mean they were very close with Jose:sad: and in an interview he gave to a french tv a few months ago, Jose said approximatively "if I leave Chelsea, I'll do my pssible to bring Didier with me" and he said something like "if we were in a war,Didier would be my best soldier with me: I have all faith in him"
I'd be surprised if Didier left. He's just started to figure out the Premiership and there aren't many clubs who can afford him. I think he was actually signed by Ranieri though he didn't arrive until the summer of 2004.

I'm not too worried about the loyalty of the players. Most of them won't feel that much loyalty towards Mourinho and besides there aren't many clubs out there that can pay the salaries we're paying them.

But Carvalho and Ferreira will probably go, also there's no-one to speak Portuguese to Alex anymore.

Baghdatis72
09-20-2007, 04:39 PM
Basically Mourinho got fed up with Roman and this was like a gesture saying: "I've had enough with you and I'm leaving. Let's see how you cope without me".

oneandonlyhsn
09-20-2007, 06:53 PM
Chelsea are screwed :lol:

As arrogant and loathesome as Jose was he brought excitement into the premier league because one never knew what would come out of his mouth. He is a winner with so much passion for the game, hated his guts but a damn good coach who knew how to get his team to get results.

I cant see Avram Grant getting the same success as Jose and from the player interviews they seem to really think the world of Jose. The team will face a rogh patch for a while.

Atleast Shevchenko and Ballack can play the full 90 minutes now :rolleyes:

adee-gee
09-20-2007, 10:21 PM
What a character, I must say I'll miss his interviews.

Chelsea will fall apart. I'm pretty sure he was sacked rather than him quitting, he'll get an estimated £25 million to keep his mouth shut and for it to blow over as "mutual consent". Lampard, Terry and Drogba will all leave soon, I can't see them hanging about, they absolutely worshipped the pants off him. Apparently Drogba was in tears when Mourinho came to say goodbye today.

Andi-M
09-20-2007, 11:12 PM
What a BAD decision. Mourihno brought something special to the prem his character was refreshing...and well he is rather sexy!


Oh well can't say Im too dissappointed ;)
Arsenal have it in the bag this year :banana:

Burrow
09-21-2007, 01:35 AM
Arsenal? :haha:

Burrow
09-21-2007, 01:40 AM
Ok, I own a private hospital, but I am not qualified to be a doctor, but I can give advice in the medical field to people who are in a better and more qualified position than myself.

Chairmen don't pick teams, he knows shit all about football. Sticking to making money is his specialiity, not interfering in team selections.

I don't care, Roman is the main reason why they got to where they got. If Mourinho was there, without the money, they would be hovering around 4th. Sure, it would be a disaster if he was doing many things with the team, but he is hardly controlling much.

How do you know he knows shit all about football?

Are you also, a "special one" ?:confused:

Burrow
09-21-2007, 01:41 AM
What a character, I must say I'll miss his interviews.

Chelsea will fall apart. I'm pretty sure he was sacked rather than him quitting, he'll get an estimated £25 million to keep his mouth shut and for it to blow over as "mutual consent". Lampard, Terry and Drogba will all leave soon, I can't see them hanging about, they absolutely worshipped the pants off him. Apparently Drogba was in tears when Mourinho came to say goodbye today.

Poor guy.

Action Jackson
09-21-2007, 04:57 AM
I don't care, Roman is the main reason why they got to where they got. If Mourinho was there, without the money, they would be hovering around 4th. Sure, it would be a disaster if he was doing many things with the team, but he is hardly controlling much.

How do you know he knows shit all about football?

Are you also, a "special one" ?:confused:

Chelsea worked cause they needed each other. They didn't win when Ranieri was in charge and he had Abramovich's money or are you unaware of that?

Fact is Mourinho wouldn't have gone there, if it wasn't for the cash. He won the Champs League with Porto who couldn't compete financially with most big European clubs, so he was limited as to who could play his wages.

Abramovich admits to not knowing a whole lot about football, but Chelsea is perfect for money laundering. It counts for absolute shit if a coach can't get the players to work as a unit, it doesn't matter if it's a village team or a top side. If Abramovich is so good in your eyes, then he should coach the team.

I gave more than enough examples where having heaps of money hasn't helped win titles and Champs Leagues on a consistent basis.

You are just arguing for the sake of arguing.

TheBoiledEgg
09-21-2007, 08:59 AM
Chelsea worked cause they needed each other. They didn't win when Ranieri was in charge and he had Abramovich's money or are you unaware of that?

Fact is Mourinho wouldn't have gone there, if it wasn't for the cash. He won the Champs League with Porto who couldn't compete financially with most big European clubs, so he was limited as to who could play his wages.

Abramovich admits to not knowing a whole lot about football, but Chelsea is perfect for money laundering. It counts for absolute shit if a coach can't get the players to work as a unit, it doesn't matter if it's a village team or a top side. If Abramovich is so good in your eyes, then he should coach the team.

I gave more than enough examples where having heaps of money hasn't helped win titles and Champs Leagues on a consistent basis.

You are just arguing for the sake of arguing.

Ranieri was only there for 1st yr of Romans arrival.

Chelsea small club & lots of money and only reason any one goes to play for them is for the $$.
hope it all goes belly up like what happened to Parma.


Porto won CL cos of all the diving cheating they did at home and they are still doing it with lesser players.

Action Jackson
09-21-2007, 11:33 AM
Ranieri was only there for 1st yr of Romans arrival.

Chelsea small club & lots of money and only reason any one goes to play for them is for the $$.
hope it all goes belly up like what happened to Parma.


Porto won CL cos of all the diving cheating they did at home and they are still doing it with lesser players.

Ranieri knew he was gone, if he didn't win anything, hence he didn't and they got rid of him.

It depends when Abramovich takes his money away from Chelsea as to whether they go broke or not.

All teams dive, just the better teams have better divers.

guille&tati4life
09-21-2007, 01:28 PM
Ranieri knew he was gone, if he didn't win anything, hence he didn't and they got rid of him.

It depends when Abramovich takes his money away from Chelsea as to whether they go broke or not.

All teams dive, just the better teams have better divers.

Porto must have been the consistently best team for the last 6 years then :p

Mourinho was a great manager and it is a stupid move, but i wonder if we will see the proper Shevchenko now Jose has gone.

adee-gee
09-21-2007, 03:48 PM
Mourinho was a great manager and it is a stupid move, but i wonder if we will see the proper Shevchenko now Jose has gone.

Shevchenko being crap had nothing to do with Mourinho, he can't run anymore and will be shit whatever happens from now on. He's finished.

Byrd
09-21-2007, 09:05 PM
Never really liked Mourinho, too much of a arrogant twat, but he was still good at what he did. Look forward to Chelsea playing huddersfield in 5 years time.

rocketassist
09-21-2007, 11:14 PM
I sympathise with the guy. I've been involved with coaching 12-14 year olds before and if I was a manager in the leagues then me and me only would choose the players I wanted, and who plays. I certainly wouldn't be anyone's yes man and have players forced upon me.

Chelsea won't be playing Huddersfield, they're still too loaded to fall that far. Huddersfield will be playing League Two football next year anyway, they're tosh.

Aleka
09-22-2007, 06:45 PM
What a character, I must say I'll miss his interviews.

Chelsea will fall apart. I'm pretty sure he was sacked rather than him quitting, he'll get an estimated £25 million to keep his mouth shut and for it to blow over as "mutual consent". Lampard, Terry and Drogba will all leave soon, I can't see them hanging about, they absolutely worshipped the pants off him. Apparently Drogba was in tears when Mourinho came to say goodbye today.
I knowwwww :sobbing: :sobbing: :sobbing: Carvalho too!!! Stupid Abramovich ruined everything!!!! Chelsea is gonna go to crap now....and I don't really think Those 5 can go to the same team together...unless it's a really wealthy club...like Real :lol:

TheBoiledEgg
09-22-2007, 07:17 PM
I sympathise with the guy. I've been involved with coaching 12-14 year olds before and if I was a manager in the leagues then me and me only would choose the players I wanted, and who plays. I certainly wouldn't be anyone's yes man and have players forced upon me.

Chelsea won't be playing Huddersfield, they're still too loaded to fall that far. Huddersfield will be playing League Two football next year anyway, they're tosh.

at least we Huddersfield have a 80% squad made from our Academy :p

Chelsea wont be loaded when Roman gets sent to jail :devil:

vincayou
09-26-2007, 09:03 AM
Good news for Arsenal fans. :yeah:

Action Jackson
09-26-2007, 09:06 AM
at least we Huddersfield have a 80% squad made from our Academy :p

Chelsea wont be loaded when Roman gets sent to jail :devil:

Well they have to catch him for money laundering first.

buddyholly
09-26-2007, 11:34 AM
It will be fun if Hull can beat Chelsea today. I enjoy listening to the crowd singing Jose's name to the opera tune, La Dona Imobile.

LeChuck
09-26-2007, 04:02 PM
Some memorable Mourinho interviews:
On Alex Fergusion after the 1st leg of the Carling Cup semi-final in 2005:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dhMgFnAzaJw
Ahead of the Barcelona-Chelsea clash in 2005:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=41v31QL0ZRE&mode=related&search=
His reply after being asked whether he felt under pressure when ManU were closing the gap on Chelsea in the Premiership in 2005/2006:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1ef7FwoxvJ4&mode=related&search=

It was also brilliant when he taunted Alex Ferguson after the 1st leg of the Porto-ManU semi-final tie in the Champions League in 2004. He said:
"I understand why he is a bit emotional.

"You would be sad if your team gets as clearly dominated by opponents who have been built on 10% of the budget."

The guy was hilarious :lol: .

Action Jackson
09-26-2007, 04:05 PM
Benitez couldn't bring himself to say a nice word about Jose when he was sacked.

Arsene Whinger must be shattered Mourinho isn't around anymore and he called Wenger a voyeur.

LeChuck
09-26-2007, 04:09 PM
Apparently Benitez and Mourinho were good friends until the that champions league semi in 2005. There dislike of each other did spice up Liverpool-Chelsea matches.

Corey Feldman
09-26-2007, 09:24 PM
Porto won CL cos of all the diving cheating they did at home and they are still doing it with lesser players.Everyone seems to forget the match at Old Trafford when they gave offside on a Scholes goal that woulda made it 2-0.... 3 players played him onside, it was worse than anything you've ever seen.

and of course in the last minute Carroll bottled it and dropped the free kick that had Jose running down the sidelines like a madman to celebrate a totally flukey and undeserved win.

ive always said Man Unt used up every ounce of luck they'll ever have in that 99 final.

:lol: @ guille&tati4life..... What a game Boruc (best celtic goalie ever) had at Hibs eh

:haha:

LeChuck
09-27-2007, 07:48 AM
Porto did get very lucky at Old Trafford in 2004, with that goal being inexpicably disallowed when Scholes was clearly onside. Although in the 1st leg of that tie at the Estadio do Dragao, Porto completely outplayed and outclassed ManU, and really should have scored more goals to put the tie out of sight.

Burrow
09-28-2007, 09:08 PM
Who cares? Man utd are the best! :bigclap:

Corey Feldman
09-29-2007, 01:34 AM
Fixing my own mistake, wasnt carroll who bottled it..... was the Yank, Howard.

Leonardo
10-01-2007, 08:06 AM
Roman Abramovic has clearly made a wrong decision.

LeChuck
10-01-2007, 09:37 AM
Replacing one of the best managers in world football with a guy who doesn't have the necessary UEFA qualifications, and hasn't managed outside of Israel before, was just pure madness from Abramovich.
It's not quite on the same scale of course, but the Chelsea fans must be even more pissed off than the Hearts fans were, when Vladimir Romanov replaced a very good manager in George Burley, with the useless Graham Rix, who was offered the managerial role at the English non-league team Crawley Town, only a few days before taking the Hearts job.
A lot of Man U fans I've spoken to want Mourinho to become the next manager at Man Utd, whenever Ferguson does get round to retiring.
What Mourinho did in Portugal was amazing. At the tiny club Uniao de Leira, he led them to their highest ever league finish, 5th place, in 2000/2001 (and above Benfica as well). In the next season, he guided them to 3rd place in the league half way into the season, before taking the Porto job in January 2002. Porto were out of the European qualification places when he took over, but after an excellent end to the season they finished 3rd, and since then the trophies have come thick and fast for Mourinho.

Corey Feldman
10-01-2007, 03:19 PM
Abramo is just playing FIFA 08, only without control pads.

btw.. anyone notice he's banging Safin's ex burd, that Dasha burd.

she's ok, but nothing special :shrug: must be a russian thing.

A lot of Man U fans I've spoken to want Mourinho to become the next manager at Man Utd, whenever Ferguson does get round to retiring.Bollocks.

and Fergie will die on the touchline before he let that happen.

adee-gee
10-01-2007, 04:52 PM
Bollocks.

and Fergie will die on the touchline before he let that happen.

Fergie and Jose actually quite like each other. They have their common dislike of Wenger to bring them closer together :)

LeChuck
10-01-2007, 05:32 PM
Fergie and Jose actually quite like each other. They have their common dislike of Wenger to bring them closer together :)

Agreed. Mourinho hated Benitez and Wenger, but he liked and respected Ferguson a lot, and the feeling was definately mutual. I bet that Ferguson would be pleased if Mourinho was his successor.

Corey Feldman
10-01-2007, 07:03 PM
I disagree that Fergie and Mourinho liked each other....

the most astute view i heard from anyone was Benetiz when he said Jose is your friend when he wins not when you beat him, or words to that effect.

remember what Mourinho was like when Porto beat Man U, mocking Fergie and last season Fegie said legal action should be taken against him for his comments about Ronaldo and his 'common' family :lol: ...
and Jose started mocking him again when Sir Govan slagged of the F.A for making Spuds plays Chelsea a couple of days after the spuds played UEFA game vs seville.

is some respect between them but big time winners never really like their enemy/rivals.

LeChuck
10-01-2007, 07:23 PM
At the community shield this year, Ferguson and Mourinho seemed very pally indeed. Both managers, the fiercely competitive people that they are, rarely chat as much to the opposing manager as they did that day. Ferguson praised Mourinho on numerous occasions last season for how gracious he was in defeat after Chelsea were beaten to the title.

Corey Feldman
10-01-2007, 08:00 PM
That was Charity Shield though Le chuck, think they'd be like that in a Eurooean Cup final?

and Jose needed to put a brave face on after bragging all year that Unt didnt take full advantage of Chelsea's 'Nov-Feb' bad form, yet still lost the league anyway.

LeChuck
10-01-2007, 08:09 PM
True but when Man Utd played Chelsea and Liverpool in the 2000 and 2001 charity/community shield matches, Ferguson was never that friendly with Vialli and Houllier, two managers who he never really had a problem with at all.
Mourinho mouthed off before the two champions league semi-finals against Liverpool in 2005 and 2007, and never had any problem moaning and whinging after both ties, so if he felt particularly resentful towards Ferguson at the end of last season, I'm sure that he would have let everyone know about it.

Corey Feldman
10-01-2007, 09:17 PM
Mourinho finds it easy to mouth off against managers he has something on........... with Wenger - he never won the European Cup, with Benetiz - he never won 2 league titles in his first two seasons like 'the special one' did.

he has nothing on Fergie.... he was the subordinent one.

adee-gee
10-01-2007, 11:02 PM
Mourinho and Fergie play mind games with each other, but I remember hearing about the fact they speak regularly on the phone and actually have a very good relationship. They obviously have a lot of respect for each other if nothing else.

Shevchenko has really come to life since Jose left :spit: quite possibly one of the worst footballing buys in the history of the game. Absolute daylight robbery from Milan, he was a superb player in his day but he can barely move anymore and I'm pretty sure they knew it.

Corey Feldman
10-02-2007, 01:51 AM
But big Abramo wanted him in his PS2 eleven...

that is a good idea for a thread, if we could all pick our best fantasy 11 of current football.... and subs :)

adee-gee
10-02-2007, 10:29 AM
Robbo would surely have to be the keeper :o :retard:

Action Jackson
10-02-2007, 10:34 AM
Mourinho finds it easy to mouth off against managers he has something on........... with Wenger - he never won the European Cup, with Benetiz - he never won 2 league titles in his first two seasons like 'the special one' did.

he has nothing on Fergie.... he was the subordinent one.

Here is a great quote from the late Brian Clough about Taggart.

"He doesn't have two of what I have and I don't mean balls".

rocketassist
10-02-2007, 03:43 PM
Here is a great quote from the late Brian Clough about Taggart.

"He doesn't have two of what I have and I don't mean balls".

League titles are the pinnacle because the best team over a course of a season wins it and that's what United have done in the 90s and twice this decade. Liverpool 04-05 proved that rubbish teams can win European Cups by playing siege football and playing for penalties, whilst Mourinho's Porto weren't a brilliant team but they somehow got through to play the mighty Monaco and win.

League over European Cup any day and I don't support Man Utd.

rocketassist
10-02-2007, 03:45 PM
Mourinho and Fergie play mind games with each other, but I remember hearing about the fact they speak regularly on the phone and actually have a very good relationship. They obviously have a lot of respect for each other if nothing else.

Shevchenko has really come to life since Jose left :spit: quite possibly one of the worst footballing buys in the history of the game. Absolute daylight robbery from Milan, he was a superb player in his day but he can barely move anymore and I'm pretty sure they knew it.

£30million for a past it can't run player, whose great stock in the game has taken a knock from his time at Chelsea.

Juan Veron bought for the same price was slated for being an alleged flop at Old Trafford, but his European performances were very good and in 2002-03 he played a big part in their title success.

Action Jackson
10-02-2007, 03:49 PM
League titles are the pinnacle because the best team over a course of a season wins it and that's what United have done in the 90s and twice this decade. Liverpool 04-05 proved that rubbish teams can win European Cups by playing siege football and playing for penalties, whilst Mourinho's Porto weren't a brilliant team but they somehow got through to play the mighty Monaco and win.

League over European Cup any day and I don't support Man Utd.

Wrong, when Forest won the European Cup it was a proper event, not a Mickey Mouse hybrid format. Man Ure always had stars, Forest didn't.

This when England had the best overall depth in both leagues.

rocketassist
10-02-2007, 03:52 PM
Wrong, when Forest won the European Cup it was a proper event, not a Mickey Mouse hybrid format. Man Ure always had stars, Forest didn't.

This when England had the best overall depth in both leagues.

True, Forest winning it was an incredible achievement without the ££££ spent nowadays and he took them from the division below to this success.

Legend of the game and just about the only thing Forest and Derby fans could agree on.

Action Jackson
10-02-2007, 04:01 PM
True, Forest winning it was an incredible achievement without the ££££ spent nowadays and he took them from the division below to this success.

Legend of the game and just about the only thing Forest and Derby fans could agree on.

Too bad that format isn't going today, but such is life and he did very well with a team that weren't great as individuals.

Corey Feldman
10-02-2007, 04:20 PM
Here is a great quote from the late Brian Clough about Taggart.

"He doesn't have two of what I have and I don't mean balls".:lol: beauty

what a time of football that was, even Aston Villa won the European Cup.

Action Jackson
10-02-2007, 04:23 PM
:lol: beauty

what a time of football that was, even Aston Villa won the European Cup.

When Gary Shaw plays in a winning Euro cup team, then it has to be good. At the same time Dugarry played on a winning World Cup team.

Corey Feldman
10-02-2007, 04:35 PM
I still remember the 1993 Marseille team with Basil Boli (and a Barthez with hair in goal) that pipped Rangers, amazingly, to the final Vs AC Milan... then scoring the winner in the final and eclipsing his previous best career moment - head butting Stuart Pearce in the 92 euro's and getting away with it scott free :worship:

LeChuck
10-02-2007, 05:30 PM
Brian clough rocked and I think that Nottingham Forest winning back to back European cup titles from 1979-1980 is the most impressive achievement by an English club, given the size of the club, budget etc.
It is quite interesting that since the champions league format was introduced in 1992/93, no team has successfully defended their title in the competition. In the 90s, Milan, Ajax and Juve all won the tournament one year before losing in the final the next.

Corey Feldman
10-02-2007, 05:54 PM
I was always wondering if any coach has ever won the 3 big european cups (European Cup, UEFA Cup and the old Cup-Winners cup)

??

Action Jackson
10-02-2007, 05:59 PM
I know Cruyff won the European Cup and Cup Winners Cup as a manager, but never the UEFA Cup.

LeChuck
10-02-2007, 06:01 PM
I'm not sure about that. It will be interesting to find out if anyone has.
It is quite funny that Arsene Wenger has never won a European trophy as a manager, and has he been a runner-up in all 3 of those competitions, the cup winners' cup in 1992 with Monaco, and the UEFA Cup in 2000 and champions league in 2006 with Arsenal.

Action Jackson
10-02-2007, 06:02 PM
Maybe the Trapp has done it.

Action Jackson
10-02-2007, 06:04 PM
Yes, Giovanni Trappatoni has done the deed.

With Juvenuts he won.

European Cup :Winner: 1984-85.
Cup Winners' Cup :Winner: 1983-84.
UEFA Cup :Winner: 1976-77, 1992-93.
European Super Cup :Winner: 1984.
Intercontinental Cup :Winner: 1985.

LeChuck
10-02-2007, 06:06 PM
The Trap also won a 3rd UEFA Cup title, with Inter in 1991 I think.
Wow the fact that he won every single major competition with Juve is very impressive.

scarecrows
10-02-2007, 06:09 PM
Trap's failure was only with the national team

Corey Feldman
10-02-2007, 06:09 PM
What a man, the old Trapp

and over 3 decades.


It is quite funny that Arsene Wenger has never won a European trophy as a manager, and has he been a runner-up in all 3 of those competitions, the cup winners' cup in 1992 with Monaco, and the UEFA Cup in 2000 and champions league in 2006 with Arsenal.haha, poor old voyeur Wenger..

the Montgomerie of managers.

Corey Feldman
10-02-2007, 06:12 PM
Trap's failure was only with the national teamreminds me of the game vs Korea in 02 :lol: old Trapp punching the bench

loved it when the Italian club sacked the guy who scored the winner as well

:lol::lol:

LeChuck
10-02-2007, 06:22 PM
The 3 favourites heading into that 2002 World Cup were (in no particular order) Argentina, France and Italy and all 3 of them badly underachieved at that tournament. Didn't Vieri miss a couple of incredibly easy chances in that South Korea match? While his left foot was deadly, his right foot was always very dodgy.
Most people (me included) were writing off Brazil and Germany I remember.

scarecrows
10-02-2007, 06:22 PM
reminds me of the game vs Korea in 02 :lol: old Trapp punching the bench

loved it when the Italian club sacked the guy who scored the winner as well

:lol::lol:

Gaucci, he was the president of Perugia that time

what a guy he was, he was staying in some caribbean sea when his sons were on court (maybe made some days of prison as well) for some problems with HIS properties

Action Jackson
10-02-2007, 06:23 PM
The Trapp has one of the funniest videos of all time where he goes off as Bayern manager.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqp64q7kHmw

scarecrows
10-02-2007, 06:23 PM
The 3 favourites heading into that 2002 World Cup were (in no particular order) Argentina, France and Italy and all 3 of them badly underachieved at that tournament. Didn't Vieri miss a couple of incredibly easy chances in that South Korea match? While his left foot was deadly, his right foot was always very dodgy.

yup, he missed one shot from 2 meters like 5 minutes from the end of regular time

LeChuck
10-02-2007, 06:27 PM
Gaucci was a nut job. He signed Saadi Al Gaddafi for Perugia and wanted to sign Hannah Ljungberg but wasn't allowed to. He was very entertaining.

scarecrows
10-02-2007, 06:28 PM
The Trapp has one of the funniest videos of all time where he goes off as Bayern manager.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqp64q7kHmw

the full length version can be found here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p1RwOE0VTc

without subtitles unfortunately

scarecrows
10-02-2007, 06:30 PM
Gaucci was a nut job. He signed Saadi Al Gaddafi for Perugia and wanted to sign Hannah Ljungberg but wasn't allowed to. He was very entertaining.

haha, i had forgotten about that swedish chick

did Gaddafi score any goal in those few minutes he played?

scarecrows
10-02-2007, 06:33 PM
another funny thing about the Trapp's video is that 'Strunz' means 'piece of shit' in italian dialect

LeChuck
10-02-2007, 06:34 PM
haha, i had forgotten about that swedish chick

did Gaddafi score any goal in those few minutes he played?

I don't think he did. He was even worse than initially feared :lol: .
That Ahn Jung-Hwan saga after the World Cup was hilarious.

LeChuck
10-02-2007, 06:40 PM
Thanks for posting that Trapp video. Brilliant stuff.
Speaking of great managers, Lippi has won the biggest trophy in club football, the champions league, with Juve in 1996, and the biggest trophy in international football (or football in general), the world cup, with Italy last year. There can't be too many managers who can boast such an achievement on their CVs.

Action Jackson
10-02-2007, 06:40 PM
There a few nutty owners and this guy in Spain called Dmitry Pietrman what a classic he was. He had no clue in football and thought he could run the team like Championship Manager. He used to own Alaves and Santander.

http://news.fiestasiesta.com/ne-id_238.html

Football crazy
Source: Times Online Sunday 17 December 2006
An eccentric millionaire who likes to go shopping for Spanish football clubs has caused untold chaos on and off the field.

This being takeover season in the Premiership, here is a cautionary tale from Spain. It is cast in a way that may be familiar to supporters of Chelsea, Portsmouth or Hearts, because it stars a businessman born behind the Iron Curtain, who grew up under communism and fell in love with capitalism. It has a storyline fans of Manchester United or Aston Villa may recognise: about a man who made millions of dollars in America and thought football clubs might make even more in Europe.

Dimitry Piterman is not Randy Lerner, Malcom Glazer or Roman Abramovich: there is no record of them having posed naked in glossy magazines. He is not Mohamed al-Fayed, though Piterman has been known to speak with a coarse tongue. When he last took a team to Real Madrid's Bernabeu stadium he described Madrid’s Brazilians as clowns. Politicians he has battled with have been drunks; the football authorities are struck dead by fear. And these are just the insults we can publish.

Like Lerner, Abramovich, al-Fayed and Glazer, Piterman is an outsider, one of very few non-native Spaniards holding the presidency of a club in La Liga. This being football, the fact of his foreignness is made conspicuous, as is his habit of taking over clubs with which he has no long-term association or affection. But Piterman would be conspicuous anyway. He is notorious around the city of Vitoria, legislative capital of the Basque country. Last weekend, protests against him by fans of Alaves caused their fixture to be delayed for several minutes. Last season, 4,500 of them marched through the city chanting “Dimitry kanpora” It means, in Basque, “Dimitry, get out.” Mention of his name also raises voices in anger in Santander, just up from Vitoria on Spanish northern coast. Three years ago he held the position of club president at Racing Santander, having bought a 25% share in the club and promised to buy enough to take a majority stake. That he never quite managed, but in the short time Piterman held power, he was president and made himself head coach, too. Alaves are the third Spanish club in which he has held a controlling interest. At the first, Palamos, of the regional second division, he also installed himself as head coach.

Piterman has been picking the team, and setting out tactics at Alaves for much of the two and a half years since he bought into a club with a bit of fresh romance about them. In 2001, they reached the Uefa Cup final and, with Liverpool, made it one of the more dramatic and entertaining big-audience matches of the past 10 years, Liverpool winning 5-4 after extra time. Alas, Alaves were relegated from Spanish top flight a couple of seasons later. Then Piterman arrived, and they regained their place in the top flight, but briefly. They went straight back down last May after Piterman went through three coaches in his first six months in charge, elbowing all of them aside to deliver team talks, decide on strategy, and generally act as manager. Piterman is confrontational. When he first decided that to boss Racing successfully he would need to take charge from the bench, he ran into trouble. In Spain, unlike in England, it is obligatory to have trained and sat examinations for some six years to qualify as a senior head coach.

Piterman lacked the certificates. He was not allowed to spend matches in the technical area. So what does he do? He gets himself accredited as a photographer, wears a snappers fluorescent bib, sits on a chair at the end of the Racing bench, names an old pal Chuchi Cos, as official coach, and barks all the orders. And he makes a big play of having found a loophole in the system.

Piterman seems vain. One spin-off of his notoriety at Racing would be an invitation to pose nude for the magazine Interviu. His modesty, if that is the word, was protected by a small blackboard, with tactical diagrams chalked on to it. Granted, the pictures show a man in good shape. Piterman is only 42 and a sportsman. Sport first brought him to Spain. The son of Ukrainian immigrants who moved to California when Dmitry was 13, he earned a place at Berkeley university. He never graduated, the business of developing property having drawn him from his studies, though not from his athletics.

He had talent for the triple jump and was good enough to have a chance of making the 1992 US Olympic team. So he came to Spain to prepare, and to extend his construction empire into the Costa Brava at the same time. He reckons only unusually high standards and small fluctuations of form at the US Olympic trials kept him out of the Barcelona Games.

Why has he been hopping, skipping and jumping from club to club in La Liga? Like all the modern takeover caliphs, Piterman says he believes in the profitability of football clubs and sees in La Liga a far more fluid, dynamic turnover of success than, say, the Premiership. He has a point. In the past six years, 10 different Spanish clubs have finished in the top four of La Liga, in positions to access the vast income of the Champions League.

In the same period, only five different English clubs have qualified for the competition. The downside of the comparison is domestic revenues, divided unequally in Spain, where clubs such as Barcelona and Real Madrid negotiate their television deals independently. In England, the base principle of collective rights deals means the lowest Premiership club will probably earn more from TV next season than, say, Deportivo La Coruna.

Spanish fabled institutions, such as Barca and Madrid, cannot be bought, because the clubs members and fans elect their presidents. But Piterman saw an opening in the next tier. He argues Alaves could one day win La Liga, and that its president wants to be hands-on and should be permitted to sit pitch side. He likes to play the heretic: Galileo said the earth revolved around the sun and they nearly burnt him, he told El Pais. He likes to cite Bill Gates, too. He champions the American model for organising professional sport to the point of suggesting football leagues might do away with relegation.

That would suit Alaves, who went to Ejido last night only three points above the Segunda A drop zone, not really where a squad containing a smattering of internationals, such as the Australian World Cup striker John Aloisi, should expect to squat. That may be the least of Piterman’s problems. The local government has threatened to suspend subsidies to the club, worth around Ä1m (£670,00)) a season, because of his management. The players have just held a press conference in support of the defender Lluis Carreras, who described a Piterman altercation with him, in a full dressing-room, as humiliating. The president-cum-coach has since suspended Carreras and fined him two weeks wages. Legal action between the two has been threatened.

“Dmitry kanpora!”. At Alavesí Estadio Mendizorroza, it is a chant they will hear more: ìDmitry Out!î But if Piterman goes, it may only be to relocate. He says that he had offers from half a dozen middle-ranking Spanish clubs last time he was without a presidency, a coaching job, and a set of mercenaries. The urge for a takeover can take a man over, again and again.

LeChuck
10-02-2007, 06:56 PM
Wow posing in the nude, getting accredited as a photographer so he could enter the technical area, that guy sounds hilarious. Characters like him also make the sport of football more entertaining/
One of the few examples where the owner was picking the team, and did a good job, was Bernard Tapie at Marseille. Of course he proceeded to undo all of his good work with that whole match fixing scandal against Valenciennes in 1993.
Jesus Gil at Atletico Madrid was also a highly controversial figure.

Action Jackson
10-02-2007, 07:01 PM
Tapie what a corrupt guy he was. He had his hands in everything. I think he had something to do with Adidas, he was a singer, actor, politician and fixer for Marseille.

Jesus Gil was an arsehole, but very quotable.

LeChuck
10-02-2007, 07:11 PM
I bet the Atletico fans absolutely loved Gil for completely scrapping the club's youth policy, and allowing Raul to leave for Real Madrid.

Corey Feldman
10-02-2007, 07:57 PM
:lol: great stuff indeed, the football nutters.


Speaking of great managers, Lippi has won the biggest trophy in club football, the champions league, with Juve in 1996, and the biggest trophy in international football (or football in general), the world cup, with Italy last year. There can't be too many managers who can boast such an achievement on their CVs.Beckenbauer musta won everything, as a player and coach.

Lyon 0-3 Rangers
:haha:

LeChuck
10-02-2007, 08:08 PM
:lol: great stuff indeed, the football nutters.


Beckenbauer musta won everything, as a player and coach.


Yep that's pretty much the case. As a player, he won:
Bayern Munich:
Bundesliga - 1969, 1972, 1973, 1974
German Cup - 1966, 1967, 1969, 1971
European Cup - 1974, 1975, 1976
Cup Winners' Cup - 1967
World Club Cup - 1976
Hamburg:
Bundesliga - 1982
Germany:
World Cup - 1974
European Championships - 1972

As a manager:
Bayern Munich:
Bundesliga - 1994
UEFA Cup - 1996
Germany:
World Cup - 1990

Corey Feldman
10-02-2007, 08:19 PM
Ah, so no world cup-european cup double from Der Kaiser.

guess the silver fox Lippi only done that .... old Paul Newman puffing his ciggies on the bench.

LeChuck
10-02-2007, 08:29 PM
1974 must have been an awesome year for him, winning the Bundesliga, European Cup and World Cup in such a short space of time.
I think that Roberto Carlos won the European Cup-World Cup double in 2002, although I'm not sure how many other players have won both competitions in the same year.

LeChuck
10-02-2007, 08:37 PM
The inventor of Total football, Rinus Michels, came very close to achieving the World Cup-European Championship-European Cup treble as a manager. He won the European Cup with Ajax in 1971, the European Championships with Holland in 1988, and was a runner-up at the World Cup in 1974, when Holland took an early lead and then decided to showboat and take the piss out of their bitter rivals Germany, instead of chasing a second goal, before paying the price for it.

Corey Feldman
10-02-2007, 08:47 PM
I think that Roberto Carlos won the European Cup-World Cup double in 2002, although I'm not sure how many other players have won both competitions in the same year.Would Ronaldo been part of that as well?
the European Championships with Holland in 1988Remember Van Basten's volley in that final.

LeChuck
10-02-2007, 08:49 PM
Would Ronaldo been part of that as well?

I think that Ronaldo was an Inter Milan player during the 2001-2002 season, before signing for Real Madrid after the World Cup.


Remember Van Basten's volley in that final.

Yeah that was just stunning.

scarecrows
10-02-2007, 08:51 PM
I think that Ronaldo was an Inter Milan player during the 2001-2002 season, before signing for Real Madrid after the World Cup.

.

correct, he moved after WC after he had promised eternal loyalty to Inter :lol:

LeChuck
10-02-2007, 08:54 PM
correct, he moved after WC after he had promised eternal loyalty to Inter :lol:

Yeah that was very funny :lol: . Inter Milan stuck by him and supported him when he was out for so long with his injuries, and that was how he ended up repaying them.

I don't think that Ronaldo has ever won the champions league during his career, as he was cup tied and ineligible for Milan during the competition last season.

scarecrows
10-02-2007, 08:57 PM
I don't think that Ronaldo has ever won the champions league during his career, as he was cup tied and ineligible for Milan during the competition last season.

hopefully this is the good season for him :devil:

LeChuck
10-02-2007, 09:00 PM
hopefully this is the good season for him :devil:

Yeah that would be great. He is surely the best player never to have won the competition, with Henry close behind.
I love watching Milan play. It's amazing how many people here in England that I've spoken to think that Milan play negative, defensive football (like Juve), when in fact they are one of the most attractive footballing sides in Europe.

scarecrows
10-02-2007, 09:02 PM
Yeah that would be great. I love watching Milan play. It's amazing how many in here in England that I've spoken to think that Milan play negative, defensive football (like Juve), when in fact they are one of the most attractive footballing sides in Europe.

they try to put all italian teams in the same group while Milan has one of the most creative midfields with Kaka, Pirlo and Seedorf

Rome is playing pretty good football lately but they dont have a team that could endure all the season, not many solid subs there

LeChuck
10-02-2007, 09:06 PM
they try to put all italian teams in the same group while Milan has one of the most creative midfields with Kaka, Pirlo and Seedorf

Rome is playing pretty good football lately but they dont have a team that could endure all the season, not many solid subs there

I agree Roma squad is pretty short in numbers. I was hoping that they could launch a serious challenge for the title this season, but they could struggle when injuries and suspensions occur.
Regarding Italian football, there have been many seasons in recent times when Serie A has averaged more goals per game, than both La Liga and the Premiership. I enjoy Serie A a lot.
A lot of people think that the Milan team of the late 80s/early 90s was the best footballing side that they have ever seen.

Corey Feldman
10-02-2007, 09:12 PM
Enjoyed watching Milan over the years... but they are becoming old dinosaurs - and they cant keep getting lucky can they Genci
;);)

scarecrows
10-02-2007, 09:14 PM
A lot of people think that the Milan team of the late 80s/early 90s was the best footballing side that they have ever seen.

I was too young to remember those games but first match I remember watching was 1990 CHL final

Enjoyed watching Milan over the years... but they are becoming old dinosaurs - and they cant keep getting lucky can they Genci
;);)

if dominating a CHL final for 110 minutes out of 120, and in the end losing it, is called luck, then you have a point

LeChuck
10-02-2007, 09:19 PM
I was too young to remember those games but first match I remember watching was 1990 CHL final

So was I and only become interested in football during 1994 when I moved to the UK as a kid. I seen replays of some of their classic matches and the football and balance between attack and defence that I saw was incredible.

Corey Feldman
10-02-2007, 09:28 PM
if dominating a CHL final for 110 minutes out of 120, and in the end losing it, is called luck, then you have a pointfrom 3-0 to 3-3..

can only happen to tired old men ;)

thank god for Kaka in 2007, a bought ref in San siro Vs Celtic, a Buyern team who bottled it at home, a Man Unt defence getting poisoned by Berlusconi in months leading up to the match and a ref who didnt play one extra minute in Athens when Milan were bottling it.

:worship:

LeChuck
10-02-2007, 09:28 PM
The average age of the Milan squad will have decreased now that Costacurta has retired :)

scarecrows
10-02-2007, 09:31 PM
from 3-0 to 3-3..

can only happen to tired old men ;)

thank god for Kaka in 2007, a bought ref in San siro Vs Celtic, a Buyern team who bottled it at home, a Man Unt defence getting poisoned by Berlusconi in months leading up to the match and a ref who didnt play one extra minute in Athens when Milan were bottling it.

:worship:

those tired man dominated after 3-3, Sheva the idiot didnt score from half a meter

I'm pretty sure the chances that Pool scored in those 30 seconds left were 0.1%

Corey Feldman
10-02-2007, 09:47 PM
What a save by Dudek from Sheva the bottler.

The average age of the Milan squad will have decreased now that Costacurta has retired :)But they did bring in Ronaldo. :o

LeChuck
10-03-2007, 11:29 AM
But they did bring in Ronaldo. :o

And they've still got Cafu, Maldini and Inzaghi as well.
Inzaghi has done well in the last couple of seasons though, including the champions league final a few months ago, and although he was probably born in an offside position, he is still dangerous.
I think Milan wanted to offload him a few years ago, but there weren't any suitors willing to match his wages at Milan at the time, but the Milan fans must be glad that they kept him now.
Ronaldo averaged a goal every 2 games for Milan in the 2nd half of last season and helped them climb up the table into 4 place.
Ronaldo is a funny guy. At Real Madrid when he was questioned about the fact that he appeared reluctant to run and chase the ball, and wanted to wait for it to come to him, he said something like, 'I get paid to score goals, if they (Real Madrid) want me to run as well, they had better pay me more money' :lol:

Corey Feldman
10-03-2007, 04:27 PM
He's been one of the most lazy twats ive ever seen in football.

he's too fat to run, Serena Williams of football.

scarecrows
10-03-2007, 04:35 PM
He's been one of the most lazy twats ive ever seen in football.

he's too fat to run, Serena Williams of football.

but somehow he manages to score in every position

I'm too fond of the player despite he plays in my fav team now but I have to give credit to his remarkable abilities to score

Corey Feldman
10-03-2007, 04:42 PM
Will he be playing tonight? who is in and out that you know?

not long to go, i'll be ready infront of my tv soon enough... cmon Celtic!! ;)

rocketassist
10-03-2007, 04:56 PM
Ronaldo couldn't run all World Cup in 2006 yet still managed to score three goals and break Gerd Muller's record.

To be honest he's been overweight since 2004.

rocketassist
10-03-2007, 04:57 PM
those tired man dominated after 3-3, Sheva the idiot didnt score from half a meter

I'm pretty sure the chances that Pool scored in those 30 seconds left were 0.1%

That was the spawniest European trophy ever won by a rubbish team supported by replica shirt, pub going glory hunters.

They're a strong, powerful side now built for Europe but in this season they were the luckiest, poorest team ever to make the final let alone win it.

adee-gee
10-03-2007, 05:06 PM
He's been one of the most lazy twats ive ever seen in football.

he's too fat to run, Serena Williams of football.
Whatever you think of him, this is one of the greatest records you'll see for a striker.....

Cruzeiro ---> 12 goals in 13 games.
PSV ---> 42 goals in 46 games.
Barcelona ---> 34 goals in 37 games.
Inter Milan ---> 49 goals in 69 games.
Real Madrid ---> 83 goals in 127 games.
AC Milan ---> 7 goals in 14 games

Total ---> 227 goals in 306 games.
In all competitions ---> 268 goals in 391 games.

For Brazil ---> 62 goals in 97 games.

:worship:

Corey Feldman
10-03-2007, 05:06 PM
It was down to Stevie G - remember his bullet in the last minutes Vs Olympiakos in the group stage that qualie'd them when they were about to go out ....

Gattuso 'was a kitten that night'

;) :eek:

Corey Feldman
10-03-2007, 05:08 PM
Adam, id have scored all those if i was in the right place at the right time, id have double his tally infact. :p

its the brilliant teams that make his goals.

adee-gee
10-03-2007, 05:24 PM
Adam, id have scored all those if i was in the right place at the right time, id have double his tally infact. :p

its the brilliant teams that make his goals.

:spit: do me a favour. The brilliant teams have had a number of high profile players over the years and none have as good a record as that.

The season Ronaldo was at Barcelona, you'd have to go a long way to see an individual have a better year. He was pure genius.