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Farenhajt
09-16-2007, 02:38 PM
Roger Federer's exclusive interview for Serbian daily "Večernje novosti". The source is here (http://www.novosti.co.yu/code/navigate.php?Id=13&status=jedna&vest=108645&datum=2007-09-16)

Partial translation:

Federer: You all watched the finals. I was on a brink of a defeat, but I was saved by my experience and his errors. I knew what I had to do in particular moments in order to win. But if it went the other way, it wouldn't be unjust, because Novak played excellent tennis. His problem were the ups and downs, but I suffered from those as well in my early career.

What do you think about Djokovic's appearance in world tennis?
He's a great guy. Young, gifted and ambitious. A real refreshment in our "circus". Funny, charming, knows how to cheer everybody up during long boring tournaments.

You mean, the impersonations?
I've heard he's impersonated me, but I haven't seen that yet. Whatever he's done, I'm not mad, I find it interesting.

There were various reports on your relationship with Djokovic, various interpretations of your comments on our No. 1 racquet...
I wish all the best to Novak! I never underestimated him, I hope he won't underestimate me either. My only message is what I've told him in Geneva: he must practice as hard and as serious as he can. Constant form will bring him the spot he deserves. I never speak against anyone, just as I'm not interested what others say about me. I care for success and I do everything I can to be valued by colleagues, press and public.

Who do you consider your greatest rival?
The list says it all. Nadal is the second, Djokovic the third. Both are young, but Rafa is currently my greatest rival. But, i still go into every match with desire to win, with the same motivation, be it against the 2nd or the 100th player in the world. I'm also very well aware that surprises are always possible in sports.

...
Let's be clear, my primary goal is not to win 14 Grand Slams and surpass Sampras. My goal are the Olympics and the gold medal for Switzerland! I'm not even interested in money anymore, I have it more than enough for myself and my family.

...
I don't have an entourage. I don't need it. Mum and dad, except when there's some important golf tournament, are always on the stands, and also my best friend and the buddies from the hood. And of course Mirka, who's everything to me - manager, media representative, stylist. That's how it is, I'm not joking! You're laughing, but it's true...

scarecrows
09-16-2007, 02:44 PM
thanks for this

I guess the other thread 'Why Fed hates Nole' needs to be closed now :sad:


i wonder why olympic gold is so important for federer and davis cup isnt

scoobs
09-16-2007, 02:46 PM
I can see Feds focusing on Olympics in 08 and Davis Cup in 09 - my personal opinion. By then he should have the slam record.

rofe
09-16-2007, 02:48 PM
Roger Federer's exclusive interview for Serbian daily "Večernje novosti". The source is here (http://www.novosti.co.yu/code/navigate.php?Id=13&status=jedna&vest=108645&datum=2007-09-16)

Partial translation:

Federer: You all watched the finals. I was on a brink of a defeat, but I was saved by my experience and his errors. I knew what I had to do in particular moments in order to win. But if it went the other way, it wouldn't be unjust, because Novak played excellent tennis. His problem were the ups and downs, but I suffered from those as well in my early career.

What do you think about Djokovic's appearance in world tennis?
He's a great guy. Young, gifted and ambitious. A real refreshment in our "circus". Funny, charming, knows how to cheer everybody up during long boring tournaments.

You mean, the impersonations?
I've heard he's impersonated me, but I haven't seen that yet. Whatever he's done, I'm not mad, I find it interesting.

There were various reports on your relationship with Djokovic, various interpretations of your comments on our No. 1 racquet...
I wish all the best to Novak! I never underestimated him, I hope he won't underestimate me either. My only message is what I've told him in Geneva: he must practice as hard and as serious as he can. Constant form will bring him the spot he deserves. I never speak against anyone, just as I'm not interested what others say about me. I care for success and I do everything I can to be valued by colleagues, press and public.

Who do you consider your greatest rival?
The list says it all. Nadal is the second, Djokovic the third. Both are young, but Rafa is currently my greatest rival. But, i still go into every match with desire to win, with the same motivation, be it against the 2nd or the 100th player in the world. I'm also very well aware that surprises are always possible in sports.

...
Let's be clear, my primary goal is not to win 14 Grand Slams and surpass Sampras. My goal are the Olympics and the gold medal for Switzerland! I'm not even interested in money anymore, I have it more than enough for myself and my family.

...
I don't have an entourage. I don't need it. Mum and dad, except when there's some important golf tournament, are always on the stands, and also my best friend and the buddies from the hood. And of course Mirka, who's everything to me - manager, media representative, stylist. That's how it is, I'm not joking! You're laughing, but it's true...

Huh? Is he contradicting himself or was something lost in translation? Wasn't it all about the GS in the USO post-match interview? Or is he saying that he doesn't care about the GS next year and only the gold medal?

Adler
09-16-2007, 02:53 PM
He said it about PRIMARY goal. I'm sure he won't be sad if he wins 14+ GS titles :D

And I'm not surprise about the gold medal thing, olympic gold is something that makes you unforgettable, not to mention that Switzerland doen't win many gold medals I think

ReturnWinner
09-16-2007, 02:53 PM
what a crap :retard:

mickymouse
09-16-2007, 02:54 PM
It would make sense for him to concentrate on the Olympics next year since there's only one to be won every 4 years while there are 4 slams every year.

nikita13
09-16-2007, 03:42 PM
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Let's be clear, my primary goal is not to win 14 Grand Slams and surpass Sampras. My goal are the Olympics and the gold medal for Switzerland! I'm not even interested in money anymore, I have it more than enough for myself and my family.

[b.

Of course, he may have already tied Pete by the time Olympics roll around. :confused: he protests too much.

schorsch
09-16-2007, 04:02 PM
blablabla. he doesnt mean one thing he's saying about nole.

*Viva Chile*
09-16-2007, 04:05 PM
blablabla. he doesnt mean one thing he's saying about nole.

wow, a swiss guy that supports Nole!! :hatoff:

Farenhajt
09-16-2007, 04:08 PM
wow, a swiss guy that supports Nole!! :hatoff:

As far as I understood schorsch, he's calling Roger a two-faced liar :) (talking sweet about Nole, but thinking quite the opposite).

Forehander
09-16-2007, 04:21 PM
Federer wants to become a monk i think

hra87
09-16-2007, 04:25 PM
I normally detect animosity when he talks about djokovic, here it wasn't at all. He's probably being nice for a serbian paper. He also said in his postmatch us open interview that he frankly thinks a lot about the slam record now, which seems to contradict the olympics comment a little at least.

barbadosan
09-16-2007, 04:25 PM
Not liking traits in a person - in Novak's case the medical timeouts etc - doesn't mean that you can't recognise and even admire other things about them. I'm sure most of us have very good friends who have one or two things we dislike about them

fmolinari2005
09-16-2007, 04:36 PM
Not liking traits in a person - in Novak's case the medical timeouts etc - doesn't mean that you can't recognise and even admire other things about them. I'm sure most of us have very good friends who have one or two things we dislike about them

Exactly. And, on this interview, is not as if Roger is giving over the top compliments to Nole too. However, I did get confused with the GS x Olympic Gold medal thing. I would love to read what was the question ...

Anyway. If Roger says he doesnt like something Nole is doing, Roger is an arrogant bastard. If he says there are things in Nole he likes, then Roger is a phony. I dont see people questioning how "heart felt" Nole's compliments to Roger were. It is obvious that Fed and Nole arent exactly best friends, but I dont think that they have problems against each other.

I guess people got disapointed that Roger and Rafa are friends, so now they are trying to create a "off court rivalry" between Roger and Nole. Hell ... if Nole was Spadea, I could understand! :lol:

mickymouse
09-16-2007, 04:36 PM
As far as I understood schorsch, he's calling Roger a two-faced liar :) (talking sweet about Nole, but thinking quite the opposite).
I think the Swiss guy Vivechile is talking about refers to Schorsch and not Fed.

Farenhajt
09-16-2007, 04:41 PM
Either he's being mistranslated, or he's being nice for a serbian paper.

My translation is correct (you can ask for a check-up from any Croatian guy here - they understand the language perfectly and usually can't be accused of any bias towards Nole). OTOH, I can't tell whether the author "sweetened it up", but I have no reason to think he did.

Is there a point in "being nice for a paper"? You can always choose your words in such a way that you remain polite enough, yet clearly not enthusiastic. And you can definitely always avoid any strong compliments if you don't feel you should give them.

However, I did get confused with the GS x Olympic Gold medal thing. I would love to read what was the question ...

There wasn't really a question, but a mere introductory statement:

"World's best tennis player acheived so much that he'll be remembered for all times, but he has the opportunity to officially become a legend. He's only 26 years old..."

Andi-M
09-16-2007, 04:49 PM
Decent interview. Fed aint stupid if he's talking to Serbian press he aint going to outwardly show dislike for Nole.

I dnt think Fed likes Nole too much, but as he said he respcts as a player and a competitor but I dnt care if he dosent like him because it makes for a better rivalry!

MCL
09-16-2007, 05:05 PM
Decent interview. Fed aint stupid if he's talking to Serbian press he aint going to outwardly show dislike for Nole.

I dnt think Fed likes Nole too much, but as he said he respcts as a player and a competitor but I dnt care if he dosent like him because it makes for a better rivalry!

I agree with your general sentiments.

hra87
09-16-2007, 05:14 PM
My translation is correct (you can ask for a check-up from any Croatian guy here - they understand the language perfectly and usually can't be accused of any bias towards Nole). OTOH, I can't tell whether the author "sweetened it up", but I have no reason to think he did.

Is there a point in "being nice for a paper"? You can always choose your words in such a way that you remain polite enough, yet clearly not enthusiastic. And you can definitely always avoid any strong compliments if you don't feel you should give them.



I never meant to imply you mistranslated, I was referring to the paper. Once I realized you might have thought it that way, I edited it out, but apparently I was a little late.

Anway, I sitll think one of the two is true, compare these two statements, the former from this interview, the latter from the postmatch interview at the us open:

"I've heard he's impersonated me, but I haven't seen that yet. Whatever he's done, I'm not mad, I find it interesting."


"Well, in the locker room he's always very respectful toward me, you know. He's pretty quiet. I only hear stuff. I didn't see the stuff he did on court the other day. I didn't see what apparently he did in the locker room either.

For me, these things, you know, I only hear. But people don't really talk about it. I know some guys weren't happy. I know some guys might think it's funny.

He's walking a tightrope, for sure. If fans like it, it's good for tennis, to be honest. It's good to have a character like him out there, there's no doubt."

I don't know, they might seem like similair comments at first, but the second, for me, has a bit of a hostile connotation underwriting it.

ReturnWinner
09-16-2007, 05:30 PM
this could be another fake info from a serbian tabloid like the thing about Robredo dating Ivanovic or Nadal being in Fakevic birthday :spit:

Farenhajt
09-16-2007, 05:31 PM
...compare these two statements, the former from this interview, the latter from the postmatch interview at the us open.

It's quite possible he managed to see some of Nole's impersonations in the meantime (between the finals and this interview) and found those innocuous and funny enough (arguably not funny for his personal taste, but apparently funny for a wide enough circle). Not having seen them in the time of postmatch interview, he just stated what generally IS a public dilemma: is Nole funniest guy out there or an attitude-ridden bastard who tries too hard? (And anyone who induces such opposites in public opinion IS walking a tight rope - you don't need Federer to say that, coz it's obvious).

The point: I don't see much of Fed's personal opinion in the first interview. He merely reported what other players' reactions were.

this could be another fake info from a serbian tabloid like the thing about Robredo dating Ivanovic or Nadal being in Fakevic birthday :spit:

No go, baby. The paper in question is not a tabloid, but quite respectable and serious paper with very high circulation (actually the highest in Serbia, I think).

hra87
09-16-2007, 05:33 PM
^But that's the trick, isn't it. You give your own opinions by CHOOSING which opinions to remark upon. Why would he even mention what others thought?

Farenhajt
09-16-2007, 05:45 PM
You give your own opinions by CHOOSING which opinions to remark upon.

He did remark on both sides:

A) Some guys don't think it's funny; he's walking a tight rope.

B) Some guys think it's funny; having such character is good for tennis.

Giving a greater specific weight to any of those two aspects is merely a matter of personal "reading in" (Nole fans might be prone to favor B, Nole opponents might be prone to favor A), but objectively, he went neither left nor right. (He managed to walk a tight rope too, if you will. :))

hra87
09-16-2007, 07:32 PM
He did remark on both sides:

A) Some guys don't think it's funny; he's walking a tight rope.

B) Some guys think it's funny; having such character is good for tennis.

Giving a greater specific weight to any of those two aspects is merely a matter of personal "reading in" (Nole fans might be prone to favor B, Nole opponents might be prone to favor A), but objectively, he went neither left nor right. (He managed to walk a tight rope too, if you will. :))

When reading into what someone says, there tends to be more weight placed on a negative comment than a positive one. For instance, if someone asks you: "how's your day," and you answer "good, my back's killing me though" that isn't a neutral statement. You expect the answer to be positive (as you would when they asked Roger about Novak's personality), so if there's an added negative it has more weight. This also applies, for instance, in letters of recommendation. You write a lot of really glowing compliments, then at the end, you add one "but...", with that one negative, there goes the whole letter. You slide it in there. Also note after the "some guys think it's funny, some guys don't" part, the first thing he said was the "walking a tight rope." So you can look at the part after it, "such character is good for tennis" as a means of toning it down. If he switched the position of the two comments, it may have come off differently (for instance, he didn't want to offend the people who were offended by the caricaturing)

There is unfortunately no objectivity to discussions on language: "yeah, he's REEEEAL funny." Objectively, that's a compliment. But the sarcasm that's there makes it an insult, which can't be addressed objectively. Look at Roger's statement earlier comparing djokovic to nadal, "I think he's better, a lot better actually." Objectively, that "a lot" better merely amplifies the adjective, but if you look at the connotation, you have to note that it isn't necessary to say he's "a lot" better unless you have something against him. He always compliments people like Roddick who obviously have no hope against him, why didn't he just say "look at the rankings, Nadal is still number 2." That's more neutral. And he didn't just say "I think he's a lot better," he added the 'a lot' as an extra phrase.

l_mac
09-16-2007, 07:38 PM
That interview sounds bogus, like a rehasing of things Federer has said in various other interviews. Also the Olympics before Slam record goal is a nonsense, and totally against everything he has said before unless he's only talking about next year's goals.

Rafa didn't like Nole's imitations after the quarter final. He didn't think it was the right time for such antics. :lol:

Farenhajt
09-16-2007, 07:48 PM
When reading into what someone says, there tends to be more weight placed on a negative comment than a positive one.

As I said, Nole dissers will go for A as "the real truth" and "real Roger's opinion". In the same manner, you can read sarcasm where there isn't any, or not read commendation where there is one. But of course, you're acting according to your signature and no one can accuse you of being inconsequent :)

Naturally, you're free to firmly believe in Roger's bad opinion on Nole, even in spite of his own words. But hopefully, in the future there will be more material to prove you wrong.

That interview sounds bogus, like a rehasing of things Federer has said in various other interviews.

I've looked into the author: Dušan Ćućuz, residing in Zürich, long-time correspondent for various ex-YU sports magazines. That should give him some credit.

Allure
09-16-2007, 07:52 PM
Whatever Roger said, deep down, he still hasn't warmed up to Baby Deniro yet.

l_mac
09-16-2007, 07:55 PM
..

hra87
09-16-2007, 07:59 PM
As I said, Nole dissers will go for A as "the real truth" and "real Roger's opinion". In the same manner, you can read sarcasm where there isn't any, or not read commendation where there is one. But of course, you're acting according to your signature and no one can accuse you of being inconsequent :)

Naturally, you're free to firmly believe in Roger's bad opinion on Nole, even in spite of his own words. But hopefully, in the future there will be more material to prove you wrong.

I agree that it is tricky to interpret what people mean through language. Tell a girl: "I like your new haircut." Response: "You didn't like my old haircut?" But I don't think you can just toss all statements aside as objectively neutral, just because it's possible to read them differently. You need to TRY to interpret. You can misread sarcasm (NO ONE gets my sarcasm 'cause mine's always deadpan), but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist and should be assumed neutral until proven otherwise.

Luckily for my position, there's plenty of old stuff that is clearly hostile towards djokovic, notably the "I think he's a joke with his injury timeouts."

Bascule
09-16-2007, 08:28 PM
ReturnWinner says:
this could be another fake info from a serbian tabloid like the thing about Robredo dating Ivanovic or Nadal being in Fakevic birthday

This thing about Ana and Robredo serbian tabloid took from spanish papers. You make the fake info.

Farenhajt
09-16-2007, 08:29 PM
Tell a girl: "I like your new haircut." Response: "You didn't like my old haircut?"... there's plenty of old stuff that is clearly hostile towards djokovic, notably the "I think he's a joke with his injury timeouts."

Again, you CAN'T prove there WAS any sarcasm, unless you go to Roger and ask him personally was he being sarcastic or not.

And again, since you dislike Djokovic, it's absolutely expected from you to interpret anything said as damaging to Novak. But you can't PROVE your personal impression, since there's just too much stuff that doesn't go your way.

And yes, you CAN take anyone's words at the face value (which the proverbial girl doesn't do, and therefore should be replied with "Shut up, baby, not gonna fall into those paranoid-malevolent traps of yours" :))

And "plenty" is still that ONE statement (though recycled gazillion times, naturally).

Bascule
09-16-2007, 08:37 PM
Federer: Djokoviću želim sve najbolje
Subota, 15. septembar 2007. 21:48

Svetski teniser broj 1, Švajcarac Rože Federer klasu je potvrdio na US Openu na kojem je trijumfovao iako nije igrao kako zna. U finalu ga je namučio Novak Djoković, kojem Federer poručuje da mu želi sve najbolje i savetuje ga da malo više trenira.

U intervjuu "Večernjim novostima", Federer je poručio da mu je glavni cilj da osvoji zlato na Olimpijskim igrama u Pekingu i naveo da se ne ljuti na Djokovića, koji osim dobrim igrama zaljubljenike u tenis zabavlja raznoraznim imitacijama svojih kolega.

"Svi ste gledali finale. Bio sam na ivici poraza, ali spasilo je moje iskustvo i njegove greške. Znao sam šta u određenom trenutku moram da radim kako bih pobedio. Ali, da je bilo obrnuto, ne bi bilo nepravedno, jer je Novak igrao odlično. Njegov problem bile su oscilacije, ali one su se dešavale i meni kad sam počinjao", kaže Federer.

Upitan o Djokoviću, Federer je odgovorio da je on "sjajan momak". "On je sjajan momak. Mlad, talentovan i ambiciozan. Pravo osveženje u našem 'cirkusu'. Duhovit je, šarmantan, zna sve da razveseli na dugim, dosadnim turnirima. Čuo sam da je i mene imitirao, ali to još nisam video. Kakva god da je, ne ljutim se, meni je to interesantno".

Povodom raznih informacija o odnosu Federera i Djokovića (koji nije baš najbolji), pogotovo posle nekih izjava Federera o mladom srpskom asu, švajcarski teniser je sada malo "stao na loptu".

"Novaku želim sve najbolje! Nikad ga nisam potcenjivao, nadam se da neće ni on mene. Jedino mu poručujem ono što sam mu već rekao u Ženevi: da više i ozbiljnije trenira. Konstantna forma će mu doneti mesto koje zaslužuje. Nikada ne dajem izjave protiv bilo koga, kao što me ne zanima šta drugi pričaju o meni. Meni je stalo do uspeha i činim sve da me cene i kolege, i novinari, i publika", kaže Federer.

Upitan koga smatra najvećim rivalom, 26-godišnji Federer odgovara da je to za sada Rafael Nadal. "Lista sve govori. Nadal je drugi, Djoković treći. Obojica su mladi, ali Rafa je trenutno moj najveći konkurent. Ali, ja i dalje u svaki meč ulazim sa željom da pobedim, sa istom motivacijom, bio to drugi ili stoti igrač na svetu. Takodje, vrlo dobro znam da su u sportu iznenadjenja uvek moguća".

Glavni cilj Federera je osvajanje olimpijskog zlata za Švajcarsku. "Moj glavni cilj nije da osvojim 14 grend slemova i dostignem Pita Samprasa. Moj cilj su Olimpijske igre i zlato za Švajcarsku! Ni novac me više ne interesuje, jer ga imam sasvim dovoljno za mene i moju porodicu".

So, it's the true. Now, Fedtards, boss told you what your opinion supose to be. I hope no more boring things like this. Whatever, wtf is important what he thinks about Nole!

natasha_nana
09-16-2007, 08:41 PM
Im not surprised by his olympics goal...he has said so many times in the past.

there is something very special about olympics gold, even if you are a multiple slam winner. I think this is especially so as very few of the top players have been able to win it. And as someone said, it is one of the rare times you can represent your country in tennis.

I dont think his wanting to win olympic gold next year is contradictory to his GS goal either...they are mutually exclusive.

Also, his olympic wish has been a longer desire I think, as for as far as I can remember he has always identified olympic gold as a career goal...while he has only very recently confessed that breaking pete's GS record is now increasingly on his mind.

Farenhajt
09-16-2007, 08:44 PM
Who knows, perhaps in 2012 he'll equal Steffi Graf's 1988 accomplishment - Golden Slam AND Olympic Gold. (Sorry guys, I just don't see him winning RG next year, and he personally denies he'll be focusing on that next year - google it up.) Now THAT would be an awesome farewell...

roxannax
09-16-2007, 09:06 PM
Whatever, wtf is important what he thinks about Nole!

I absolutely agree with this statement. Anyway, I don't get the point of this discussion at all. Why would anyone care about what they think of each other?

Complete nonsense.

l_mac
09-16-2007, 09:08 PM
I absolutely agree with this statement. Anyway, I don't get the point of this discussion at all. Why would anyone care about what they think of each other?

Complete nonsense.

The Djokotards are trying to win the title "Most Sensitive Fanbase." They need everyone to love their boy. And show him the respect he deserves.

Bascule
09-16-2007, 09:19 PM
Oh, I_mac, what can I conclude (?) about your personal info ("I don't like Djokovic"), but that you're little bit obssesed. Sad for you. (By the way, what's your country?)
I don't need you to love my boy (I don't enjoy in sharing), but I'm very fond of that one on your avatar.

fmolinari2005
09-16-2007, 09:19 PM
The Djokotards are trying to win the title "Most Sensitive Fanbase." They need everyone to love their boy. And show him the respect he deserves.

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

I dont know what is more funny: the FedRafaNole trinity at the ATP tour, or how their respective tards are interacting here!

Btw: Federer is perfect, he would never trash talk anyone, and whenever he goes to the bathroom he craps bars of gold. People should never look directly at him, because they are not worth it. Anyone who disagrees with this knows nothing about tennis, and, for questioning this important dogma, will burn in tennis hell for all eternitiy.

Allure
09-16-2007, 09:23 PM
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

I dont know what is more funny: the FedRafaNole trinity at the ATP tour, or how their respective tards are interacting here!

Btw: Federer is perfect, he would never trash talk anyone, and whenever he goes to the bathroom he craps bars of gold. People should never look directly at him, because they are not worth it. Anyone who disagrees with this knows nothing about tennis, and, for questioning this important dogma, will burn in tennis hell for all eternitiy.

:haha:

l_mac
09-16-2007, 09:25 PM
Oh, I_mac, what can I conclude (?) about your personal info ("I don't like Djokovic"), but that you're little bit obssesed. Sad for you. (By the way, what's your country?)
I don't need you to love my boy (I don't enjoy in sharing), but I'm very fond of that one on your avatar.

l_mac, not I_mac. Bored, not obsessed (but admittedly revelling in my new "hater"* role! I've never had that on a tennis board before. Not for anyone successful anyway) Scotland :)




*I'm not really a hater. Nole doesn't inspire such depth of feeling in me. But I am not a fan. Just so that's clear.

Sunset of Age
09-16-2007, 09:30 PM
*I'm not really a hater. Nole doesn't inspire such depth of feeling in me. But I am not a fan. Just so that's clear.

There's quite a difference between 'not being a fan' and 'being a hater'.
Not everybody seems to get that over here. ;)

Farenhajt
09-16-2007, 09:34 PM
The Djokotards are trying to win the title "Most Sensitive Fanbase." They need everyone to love their boy. And show him the respect he deserves.

You're wrong on two out of three. And that's bad :)

wakingaube
09-16-2007, 09:36 PM
I don't have an entourage. I don't need it. Mum and dad, except when there's some important golf tournament, are always on the stands, and also my best friend and the buddies from the hood. And of course Mirka, who's everything to me - manager, media representative, stylist. That's how it is, I'm not joking! You're laughing, but it's true...

The hood? Somehow I don't see those words coming out of Roger's mouth.:unsure:

l_mac
09-16-2007, 09:37 PM
You're wrong on two out of three. And that's bad :)


Which one did I get correct? The "Most Sensitive Fanbase," right? The good news is you're well on your way :)

fmolinari2005
09-16-2007, 09:41 PM
There's quite a difference between 'not being a fan' and 'being a hater'.
Not everybody seems to get that over here. ;)

Let me explain it to you: if you think a particular player does something you dont like, and this particular player recently defeated your fav, it means you are a hater.

If you are a fan of someone, everything you write here is tainted, because you are just a silly fanboy/girl.

And, most important: true tennis fans arent fans of those clowns at the top 10 today. You gotta show the other jokers (no pun intended), that you understand tennis in all its depths. For you, the best player ever was some guy from the 80/70/60s (depending on how old you pretend to be), that never won a GS title, not because he wasnt good enough, but because he wasnt a sell out like those clowns today. And, if you feel like throwing a bone to this current era of clowns, you might say that you like a guy who isnt a top 50: remember, you are not a fanboy/girl! You know tennis!

Farenhajt
09-16-2007, 09:43 PM
Which one did I get correct? The "Most Sensitive Fanbase," right? The good news is you're well on your way :)

There's no open contest on that, as far as I can see :) Actually, I think Nole's the clear winner on "Most Sensitive Haterbase*" - some of the attributions there are undeniably beyond reach of us humble loving mortals :)

*Don't consider yourself a true member :)

MCL
09-16-2007, 09:46 PM
Let me explain it to you: if you think a particular player does something you dont like, and this particular player recently defeated your fav, it means you are a hater.

If you are a fan of someone, everything you write here is tainted, because you are just a silly fanboy/girl.

And, most important: true tennis fans arent fans of those clowns at the top 10 today. You gotta show the other jokers (no pun intended), that you understand tennis in all its depths. For you, the best player ever was some guy from the 80/70/60s (depending on how old you pretend to be), that never won a GS title, not because he wasnt good enough, but because he wasnt a sell out like those clowns today. And, if you feel like throwing a bone to this current era of clowns, you might say that you like a guy who isnt a top 50: remember, you are not a fanboy/girl! You know tennis!


Be careful :scared: You start out pretending to be a tard and it's all downhill from there :sad: :p

Bascule
09-16-2007, 09:52 PM
Well, l_mac, I thougt you're irish, but scot sounds great. Don't torture your self with Djoko anymore, why don't you get out and have some fun, you sound like you could be interresting person.

l_mac
09-16-2007, 09:54 PM
Be careful :scared: You start out pretending to be a tard and it's all downhill from there :sad: :p


fmolinari2005 is already a total Fedtard. He/she is just in deep denial. Check out his sig. 9/10 Fedtards have similarly verbose nonsense in their signatures ;)

Sunset of Age
09-16-2007, 09:56 PM
Let me explain it to you: if you think a particular player does something you dont like, and this particular player recently defeated your fav, it means you are a hater.

If you are a fan of someone, everything you write here is tainted, because you are just a silly fanboy/girl.

And, most important: true tennis fans arent fans of those clowns at the top 10 today. You gotta show the other jokers (no pun intended), that you understand tennis in all its depths. For you, the best player ever was some guy from the 80/70/60s (depending on how old you pretend to be), that never won a GS title, not because he wasnt good enough, but because he wasnt a sell out like those clowns today. And, if you feel like throwing a bone to this current era of clowns, you might say that you like a guy who isnt a top 50: remember, you are not a fanboy/girl! You know tennis!

:haha:

Great post, mate! :yeah: :worship:
My personal scores so far: Rafatard, Fedtard, Fedaltard, GloryHunter, Fanboy, Fangirl, ClownLover, 60/70/80/90-tard, Bandwaggoner, Djoko-hater, Djoko-defender... you name it, I've been dubbed it. :angel: :p

fmolinari2005
09-16-2007, 09:57 PM
Be careful :scared: You start out pretending to be a tard and it's all downhill from there :sad: :p

I wish I were a Marat fan like you! Then I could use "uphill" and "downhill" and mean it! ;)

But, unfortunatelly, I am not. So, it is all downhill from now on to me! ;) :lol: :lol:

Farenhajt
09-16-2007, 10:01 PM
l_mac, how come you chose to particularly express your disliking of Nole in your sig? Aren't there any stronger, more important feelings? (Judging by your claims you don't feel that deep about Nole, there should be.) Perhaps liking of Murray? Or some other player(s)?

l_mac
09-16-2007, 10:02 PM
Well, l_mac, I thougt you're irish, but scot sounds great. Don't torture your self with Djoko anymore, why don't you get out and have some fun, you sound like you could be interresting person.


You thought I was Irish :lol: Why? I'm not torturing myself. Most nights I manage a few precious hours of non-Djoko obsessed sleep. :dance:

And, d'uh, do you think if going out and having fun was an option for me this evening I'd be on MTF posting about Nole? :p

Allure
09-16-2007, 10:02 PM
Djokovic is a tool.

l_mac
09-16-2007, 10:04 PM
l_mac, how come you chose to particularly express your disliking of Nole in your sig? Aren't there any stronger, more important feelings? (Judging by your claims you don't feel that deep about Nole, there should be.) Perhaps liking of Murray? Or some other player(s)?

I didn't have a signature before, but I put this on after the outpouring of love for Nole on GM when he beat Rafa at Montreal. I felt like a lone voice :sad: Then the next day he beat Fed and I had lots of new like minded allies :lol:

fmolinari2005
09-16-2007, 10:05 PM
fmolinari2005 is already a total Fedtard. He/she is just in deep denial. Check out his sig. 9/10 Fedtards have similarly verbose nonsense in their signatures ;)

Ouch! The problem is: if I were a Rafatard, I wouldnt have much to write other than: "He sometimes feels hundred percent, and plays with his forehand, no?!" :lol: :lol:

MCL
09-16-2007, 10:07 PM
I wish I were a Marat fan like you! Then I could use "uphill" and "downhill" and mean it! ;)

But, unfortunatelly, I am not. So, it is all downhill from now on to me! ;) :lol: :lol:

Leave Marat alone :armed: :ras:

I see you've entered the "change the subject by bringing up another poster's fav player" phase of tard debating. :p

:sad: My warning came far too late.

l_mac
09-16-2007, 10:09 PM
Ouch! The problem is: if I were a Rafatard, I wouldnt have much to write other than: "He sometimes feels hundred percent, and plays with his forehand, no?!" :lol: :lol:


Don't be daft! A simple :drool: RAFA!! :drool: or "I http://images.madnono.com/smilies/heart.gif The Famous Ass" would suffice :D

Farenhajt
09-16-2007, 10:13 PM
Was it EVER resolved whether Rafa actually says "no" or just shortens Fed's "you know"? :)

I didn't have a signature before, but I put this on after the outpouring of love for Nole on GM when he beat Rafa at Montreal. I felt like a lone voice :sad: Then the next day he beat Fed and I had lots of new like minded allies :lol:

The last part figures :lol:

l_mac
09-16-2007, 10:16 PM
Was it EVER resolved whether Rafa actually says "no" or just shortens Fed's "you know"? :)

He says "no". Lots of Spanish speaking players do. Also Spanish people who are not players :lol:

edited: tonight it appears to be my personal aim to respond to any thread in under 40 seconds. Go me!

l_mac
09-16-2007, 10:16 PM
*whistles*

fmolinari2005
09-16-2007, 10:17 PM
Leave Marat alone :armed: :ras:

I see you've entered the "change the subject by bringing up another poster's fav player" phase of tard debating. :p

:sad: My warning came far too late.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Actually, that wasnt me being a tard! That was me trying to make a lousy joke! ;)

(Maybe that is the stage of "tardism" I am at right now! ;) )

Bascule
09-16-2007, 10:18 PM
So, l_mac, that means you're miserable like all folks here on MTF. Well, I supose I joined the club. By the way, I used to see this "Mac" thing by some irish name. And, I love celtic temperament, it's very similiar to serbian. We have some old academic women here interesting in celtic history. She found out many similiar things between your and my people, she also mentioned something in blood. She's written even a book about that about 15 years ago. And we have very good band named "Ortodox celts".

roxannax
09-16-2007, 10:21 PM
I don't have an entourage. I don't need it. Mum and dad, except when there's some important golf tournament, are always on the stands, and also my best friend and the buddies from the hood. And of course Mirka, who's everything to me - manager, media representative, stylist. That's how it is, I'm not joking! You're laughing, but it's true...

He obviously loves as well as he plays :)

MCL
09-16-2007, 10:22 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Actually, that wasnt me being a tard! That was me trying to make a lousy joke! ;)

(Maybe that is the stage of "tardism" I am at right now! ;) )

No problem :)

fmolinari2005
09-16-2007, 10:24 PM
He says "no". Lots of Spanish speaking players do. Also Spanish people who are not players :lol:

edited: tonight it appears to be my personal aim to respond to any thread in under 40 seconds. Go me!


You know, obviously, I would never cheer for a player that repeats the same word, over and over again. You know, this is obvioulsy annoying. No?!

Note: if you are trying to always reply in less than 40 seconds, I am going for the record of "Most idiotic jokes posted in a row" ...

sawan66278
09-16-2007, 10:24 PM
I'm sorry...I still believe Roger does cares for Darth Cheater. How could he?

l_mac
09-16-2007, 10:25 PM
So, l_mac, that means you're miserable like all folks here on MTF. Well, I supose I joined the club. By the way, I used to see this "Mac" thing by some irish name. And, I love celtic temperament, it's very similiar to serbian. We have some old academic women here interesting in celtic history. She found out many similiar things between your and my people, she also mentioned something in blood. She's written even a book about that about 15 years ago. And we have very good band named "Ortodox celts".

Mac or Mc is very common as a prefix to a surname in Scotland and Ireland. It means "son of" in Gaelic, similar to O' prefix which is also very common in Ireland.

Farenhajt
09-16-2007, 10:26 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Actually, that wasnt me being a tard! That was me trying to make a lousy joke! ;)

(Maybe that is the stage of "tardism" I am at right now! ;) )

fmolinari doesn't appear a tard at all, actually. He seems a very educated and well-balanced person whose broad common sense and worldliness just don't allow him to NOT respect Roger Federer's unique physiological ability to crap bars of gold :D

Allure
09-16-2007, 10:26 PM
I wish Roger would continue to diss Djoke so I can say how arrogant Fed is. :sad:

l_mac
09-16-2007, 10:27 PM
You know, obviously, I would never cheer for a player that repeats the same word, over and over again. You know, this is obvioulsy annoying. No?!

Note: if you are trying to always reply in less than 40 seconds, I am going for the record of "Most idiotic jokes posted in a row" ...

I think you'll be more successful in your attempt than me. You seem to have a more ready supply of lame jokes than I do speedy replies :sad:

Sunset of Age
09-16-2007, 10:28 PM
Don't be daft! A simple :drool: RAFA!! :drool: or "I http://images.madnono.com/smilies/heart.gif The Famous Ass" would suffice :D

:unsure: :unsure: :unsure:

tangerine_dream
09-16-2007, 10:30 PM
I think Davis Cup will become more important to Roger as he gets older and has amassed every other title he could get his greedy little hands on. He will definitely be zero-ing on the Olympic gold medal next year. He blew his chance in 2004, he won't want to repeat that blunder.

Bascule
09-16-2007, 10:34 PM
That's great information, l_mac, thanks, very logical. When I watch scotish film, I hardly understand anything. Is there a difference in writing the words also?
PS: You mentioned Rafa's ass, are you a girl?

l_mac
09-16-2007, 10:39 PM
That's great information, l_mac, thanks, very logical. When I watch scotish film, I hardly understand anything. Is there a difference in writing the words also?

:lol: No, no difference. The accent is very hard to master. I'm from the West Coast of Scotland and I have problems understanding anyone with a strong Northern or East Coast accent.

PS: You mentioned Rafa's ass, are you a girl?

Ooh, sexist! The beauty of Rafa's ass transcends gender! :lol: Yes, I'm female.

l_mac
09-16-2007, 10:40 PM
:unsure: :unsure: :unsure:


You know I was kidding, right ;)

fmolinari2005
09-16-2007, 10:46 PM
I think you'll be more successful in your attempt than me. You seem to have a more ready supply of lame jokes than I do speedy replies :sad:


Oh well! You could always ask for some help from Speedy Gonzales! Specially today, with him winning a title.

Note: It seems that you are right. I am like an unstopabble moron today. :lol:

Ok! That was the last one. Just to prove my point. I am fairly new here, so I should avoid derailing thread's topics here.

Sunset of Age
09-16-2007, 10:47 PM
You know I was kidding, right ;)

So was I. :lol: ;)

Bascule
09-16-2007, 10:51 PM
But, mac, you're thinking like a man. Anyway, you're kind a lovable person. And I still can't see why you're negative in your signature. It's maybe you're very young.

l_mac
09-16-2007, 10:56 PM
But, mac, you're thinking like a man. Anyway, you're kind a lovable person. And I still can't see why you're negative in your signature. It's maybe you're very young.

Well, thanks. I think. I already explained my sig! It's not a serious statement of contempt, it was meant as a jokey reaction to Nole's sudden burst of popularity here at MTF. It is true though. I do not care for him at all.

You'll have to guess again on the very young thing unfortunately. Unless it's a relative thing and you're 80.

Allure
09-16-2007, 10:57 PM
But, mac, you're thinking like a man. Anyway, you're kind a lovable person. And I still can't see why you're negative in your signature. It's maybe you're very young.

What does being young have to do with anything? A forty year old could hate Nole.

l_mac
09-16-2007, 10:59 PM
Oh well! You could always ask for some help from Speedy Gonzales! Specially today, with him winning a title.

That was nearly worth a bad rep. You're better than that.

I am fairly new here, so I should avoid derailing thread's topics here.


Not when the topic is Nole. The subject should be changed ASAP. :)

adee-gee
09-16-2007, 11:03 PM
:lol: Federer is so full of shit.

I wish his phoney "nice guy" image would hurry up and be exposed already, even if it is bad for the sport.

MCL
09-16-2007, 11:03 PM
:o l_mac - I thought you were a guy too. :lol:

Johnny Groove
09-16-2007, 11:06 PM
:o l_mac - I thought you were a guy too. :lol:

I'm guilty as well :o

l_mac
09-16-2007, 11:09 PM
:o l_mac - I thought you were a guy too. :lol:

I'm guilty as well :o


:haha: Wait, if three people say it on MTF doesn't that make it true??

Maybe I am and I'm just in deep denial.

Allure
09-16-2007, 11:12 PM
I also thought l_mac was a guy who is in love with Nadal.

Bascule
09-16-2007, 11:13 PM
Well, I thought that little kids just can act like that. But, maybe I'm wrong with my conclusions. By the way, haha, I'm not 80 yet. Yes, relative, has anybody seen "Harold and Maude" (1971). It's very funny, talking about relative in age.

jwoodrx
09-16-2007, 11:13 PM
Roger Federer's exclusive interview for Serbian daily "Večernje novosti". The source is here (http://www.novosti.co.yu/code/navigate.php?Id=13&status=jedna&vest=108645&datum=2007-09-16)


...
I don't have an entourage. I don't need it. Mum and dad, except when there's some important golf tournament, are always on the stands, and also my best friend and the buddies from the hood. And of course Mirka, who's everything to me - manager, media representative, stylist. That's how it is, I'm not joking! You're laughing, but it's true...

Things I never thought I'd hear Roger say: from the hood. :haha: :haha:

Farenhajt
09-16-2007, 11:17 PM
:haha: Wait, if three people say it on MTF doesn't that make it true??

Maybe I am and I'm just in deep denial.

Those Scottish winds and rocky shores are known to harden fragile lasses' souls ;)

Bascule
09-16-2007, 11:18 PM
I'm absolutely sure mac is a guy wanting to have ass like Rafa.

l_mac
09-16-2007, 11:19 PM
I also thought l_mac was a guy who is in love with Nadal.


Wrong on both counts. :p

I don't understand why everyone thought I was a man. It's okay. I like men. I like men a lot.

Sunset of Age
09-16-2007, 11:26 PM
Wrong on both counts. :p

I don't understand why everyone thought I was a man. It's okay. I like men. I like men a lot.

:hug:

Why is this, that every time a lady makes SENSIBLE posts, a lot of people seem to think they're males??? Smells like subdued sexism to me!

Pfew, yeah, a lot of people thought I was a guy, too, when I first joined. Jeebus! We Ladies have BRAINS, too! :p

l_mac
09-16-2007, 11:27 PM
Well, I thought that little kids just can act like that. But, maybe I'm wrong with my conclusions.

Don't worry about being wrong. My absolute favourite thing about MTF are the sweeping, mostly unfair and incorrect, generalisations people make. :)

I'm absolutely sure mac is a guy wanting to have ass like Rafa.

Huh?

Farenhajt
09-16-2007, 11:27 PM
I don't understand why everyone thought I was a man.

I guess there's a very strong prejudice here.

1. "Girls on MTF are nothing but boppers, interested ONLY in players' underwear and the contents thereof. Being shallow-minded, they don't talk much - mostly just the name of the guy they're bopping for, with heavy repetition of the final vocal - but OTOH they're an epitome of smiley overuse and abuse."

2. "Anyone not acting as described in 1. is a guy."

Allure
09-16-2007, 11:29 PM
ClayBuster is a girl?? :eek:

Sunset of Age
09-16-2007, 11:30 PM
I guess there's a very strong prejudice here.

1. "Girls on MTF are nothing but boppers, interested ONLY in players' underwear and the contents thereof. Being shallow-minded, they don't talk much - mostly just the name of the guy they're bopping for, with heavy repetition of the final vocal - but OTOH they're an epitome of smiley overuse and abuse."

2. "Anyone not acting as described in 1. is a guy."

Great post! :worship:
(this brought to you by a non-Djoko-fan, :D :p ;))

Johnny Groove
09-16-2007, 11:31 PM
:hug:

Why is this, that every time a lady makes SENSIBLE posts, a lot of people seem to think they're males??? Smells like subdued sexism to me!

Pfew, yeah, a lot of people thought I was a guy, too, when I first joined. Jeebus! We Ladies have BRAINS, too! :p

I cant see how :shrug:

With all that Fed/Rafa fangirling you got going on in your siggie :p

MCL
09-16-2007, 11:31 PM
Wrong on both counts. :p

I don't understand why everyone thought I was a man. It's okay. I like men. I like men a lot.

I think it was the avatar. ;)

Sunset of Age
09-16-2007, 11:32 PM
ClayBuster is a girl?? :eek:

:D Nah, used to be a girl when I was still fangirling Bjorn Borg & Ivan Lendl.
Nowadays, I hope to be able to be considered being a LADY. :angel:

Bascule
09-16-2007, 11:34 PM
Cos' you have no flowers like claybuster

l_mac
09-16-2007, 11:35 PM
I think it was the avatar. ;)

Ah. Maybe I should change it to a kitten? Or a shirtless Rafa with 3 drooling smilies underneath?

I love the way this thread has gone. Me and my gender are far more interesting topics than both Nole and Roger! :) Maybe we could have some l_mactards?

Sunset of Age
09-16-2007, 11:36 PM
I cant see how :shrug:

With all that Fed/Rafa fangirling you got going on in your siggie :p

Changed my siggie, OOPS, AVATAR, to something that's quite showing my age a little more, eh. :angel:

Don't worry, I'll change it BACK as soon as Rafito & Rogelio take the stage together again, heh! :p

Johnny Groove
09-16-2007, 11:38 PM
Changed my siggie, OOPS, AVATAR, to something that's quite showing my age a little more, eh. :angel:

Don't worry, I'll change it BACK as soon as Rafito & Rogelio take the stage together again, heh! :p

okay, let me rephrase:

fanLADYing :p ;)

Sunset of Age
09-16-2007, 11:40 PM
I love the way this thread has gone. Me and my gender are far more interesting topics than both Nole and Roger! :) Maybe we could have some l_mactards?

Count me in, immediately. :yeah: :p

Farenhajt
09-16-2007, 11:40 PM
Another thing perhaps: when you're about to exercise your tard rights and treat your fellow fan from the opposing tribe with VERY juicy and carefully assorted language - and I dare expect only males are prone to such fits :) - it's almost impossible to think of the other side as a female: rage brakes would kick in almost instantly :)

MCL
09-16-2007, 11:42 PM
Ah. Maybe I should change it to a kitten? Or a shirtless Rafa with 3 drooling smilies underneath?

I love the way this thread has gone. Me and my gender are far more interesting topics than both Nole and Roger! :) Maybe we could have some l_mactards?

Well, aren't you special? :rolleyes:



:secret: Where do I sign up?
Do you allow girls in your fan club? :p

Sunset of Age
09-16-2007, 11:42 PM
okay, let me rephrase:

fanLADYing :p ;)

:yeah:

Let's introduce a new term to MTF: fanLADYing!!! :worship: :worship: :worship:

Gu, where are you? Like to read yer comments, eh? :p

Bascule
09-16-2007, 11:44 PM
I'm beginning to be mactard definetly,Are you also looking like girl?

l_mac
09-16-2007, 11:45 PM
Count me in, immediately. :yeah: :p

:secret: Where do I sign up?
Do you allow girls in your fan club? :p


Excellent! Already I have a bigger bandwagon than Davydenko, and he's a Top 10 player.

Farenhajt
09-16-2007, 11:47 PM
Excellent! Already I have a bigger bandwagon than Davydenko, and he's a Top 10 player.

But be careful not to exceed Murray's bandwagon (wouldn't be nice, would it? :)) - since you're getting there fast :p

Sunset of Age
09-16-2007, 11:48 PM
Excellent! Already I have a bigger bandwagon than Davydenko, and he's a Top 10 player.

Bandwagon MTF-player/poster of the month, that's for sure! :D

l_mac
09-16-2007, 11:49 PM
Another thing perhaps: when you're about to exercise your tard rights and treat your fellow fan from the opposing tribe with VERY juicy and carefully assorted language - and I dare expect only males are prone to such fits :) - it's almost impossible to think of the other side as a female: rage brakes would kick in almost instantly :)

I'm Scottish. It is impossible to offend, upset or even annoy me with juicy language ;)

I'm beginning to be mactard definetly,Are you also looking like girl?


No, I'm female but sadly I have a full beard and a thick neck. Does that matter?

l_mac
09-16-2007, 11:51 PM
But be careful not to exceed Murray's bandwagon (wouldn't be nice, would it? :)) - since you're getting there fast :p


Pfffftt. Wait till Andy starts winning again next season. Then you'll see haters the likes of which the Djokotards can only dream their man could inspire.

Gulliver
09-16-2007, 11:51 PM
I don't have an entourage. I don't need it. Mum and dad, except when there's some important golf tournament, are always on the stands, and also my best friend and the buddies from the hood. And of course Mirka, who's everything to me - manager, media representative, stylist. That's how it is, I'm not joking! You're laughing, but it's true...These are the exact words he used in the now deleted interview after the DC match about Djokovic's injury timeouts, and are totally incongruous here......this, and "buddies from the hood" and "primary goal" make me take this "interview with a Serbian newspaper" with a large pinch of salt.

Sunset of Age
09-16-2007, 11:51 PM
No, I'm female but sadly I have a full beard and a thick neck. Does that matter?

:haha: :haha: :haha:

WOW, l_mac. Wanted to give you a goodrep again, but aye, Zeh System doesn't let me. :yeah: :kiss:

Farenhajt
09-16-2007, 11:53 PM
I'm Scottish. It is impossible to offend, upset or even annoy me with juicy language ;)

You're quickly becoming the absolute candidate for Women's MTF Association Chairperson :)

Bascule
09-16-2007, 11:55 PM
If it matters to you (your loving sexy rafa boy). Davidenko has small bandwagon, I wonder why?

MCL
09-17-2007, 12:00 AM
There's nothing wrong with Davydenko (besides the fixing allegations). I think he's a funny, nice guy. His most hardcore fans (not me mind you) are actually fairly quiet.

Bascule
09-17-2007, 12:01 AM
Inspite of all, typical for girls: having flowers in avatar or talking about Rafa's ass. I'm not suprised. But, mac, you're kind a little rude for girls, no?!

Bascule
09-17-2007, 12:03 AM
I ment that Davidenko isn't intressting for girls, cause he's not hot, right? Typical.

Sunset of Age
09-17-2007, 12:04 AM
Inspite of all, typical for girls: having flowers in avatar or talking about Rafa's ass. I'm not suprised. But, mac, you're kind a little rude for girls, no?!

;)
Hey, have you any idea on WHO that is, there in my avvy?

Besides that, Rafa's ass is still an item as far as I'm concerned, though. :angel:

l_mac
09-17-2007, 12:05 AM
These are the exact words he used in the now deleted interview after the DC match about Djokovic's injury timeouts, and are totally incongruous here......this, and "buddies from the hood" and "primary goal" make me take this "interview with a Serbian newspaper" with a large pinch of salt.


I hate to get back on topic, but this is exactly the point I was making toward the beginning of the thread. It's not that people don't want to believe that Roger likes Nole, just that the interview reads as if it's pieced together from other sources. Personally I think Nole will continue to earn Roger's respect - he made Rafa wait long enough for it - but I doubt there will be any warmth between them. But who cares? Not Djoko, I'll bet.

Davidenko has small bandwagon, I wonder why?

Davydenko has a small bandwagon because he's Davydenko. I actually think he's quite funny but there's not a lot there to excite me. I expect his bandwagon will explode if he gets in trouble for the bet fixing scandal.

l_mac
09-17-2007, 12:07 AM
Inspite of all, typical for girls: having flowers in avatar or talking about Rafa's ass. I'm not suprised. But, mac, you're kind a little rude for girls, no?!

I'm rude? When? And I've already said Rafa's ass is a topic that transcends gender. It has universal bi-gender appeal.

MCL
09-17-2007, 12:09 AM
I ment that Davidenko isn't intressting for girls, cause he's not hot, right? Typical.

:banghead: I'm hoping you're being sarcastic. Davydenko doesn't get that much attention from either gender of tennis fans for a variety of reasons. I think he's cool and so do many other people. He just flies under the radar.

Bascule
09-17-2007, 12:09 AM
Well, claybuster, I didn't mean literally. You have that "romantic" stuff and last words in signature typical for (warm) woman's hearts. I'm also lady, I think it's obviously.

Farenhajt
09-17-2007, 12:15 AM
But who cares? Not Djoko, I'll bet.

And you'll win. In a recent interview (at the Belgrade airport after getting back from NYC) he said: "Federer can speak or think whatever he likes, mine's to prove myself on court." Knowing him, he's determined to do just that.

Sunset of Age
09-17-2007, 12:15 AM
Well, claybuster, I didn't mean literally. You have that "romantic" stuff and last words in signature typical for (warm) woman's hearts. I'm also lady, I think it's obviously.

No problem, fellow lady! :hug:

Yeah, I have a warm heart. I think that's what makes us females stand out. But I have to admit there are guys around too who appear to understand as well. Rogi, Rafa, and Jonathan, for instance. ;)

Not ALL guys are in fact chimpansees... :p :angel:

Farenhajt
09-17-2007, 12:17 AM
It has universal bi-gender appeal.

Personally, I find his ass a tad too big compared with hardly the longest legs in the world.

Bascule
09-17-2007, 12:22 AM
Yes, Clay, there are more women in this thread than men, no? Haha, ok, this was "mac" thread. Now, our fellow Djoko: absolutely, Farenhajt, that's what I said, he doesn't care anymore, his stronger then last year. And I like him more for his statements full of selfconfidence, althought some find that's annoying.

MCL
09-17-2007, 12:24 AM
Farenhajt

Back on topic - You appear to be a new Djokotard. (I hope you don't take major offense to that.) Would you have problems appreciating Federer if it were proven he had a serious dislike of Novak? Do you already dislike Federer?

l_mac
09-17-2007, 12:25 AM
Personally, I find his ass a tad too big compared with hardly the longest legs in the world.

What!? Look how long the legs are here

http://timesonline.typepad.com/./photos/uncategorized/2007/06/27/cimg2541_2.jpg

Sunset of Age
09-17-2007, 12:28 AM
Yes, Clay, there are more women in this thread than men, no? Haha, ok, this was "mac" thread. Now, our fellow Djoko: absolutely, Farenhajt, that's what I said, he doesn't care anymore, his stronger then last year. And I like him more for his statements full of selfconfidence, althought some find that's annoying.

:D seems like that, yeah.

Okay, here's my FedalTard-voice speaking up again: I can only hope for both Rogi AND Rafa to be able to fend off TEH DJOKO-fear as long as they are able to do so. And if not, well then, all HAILZ to the man that truly deserves his achievements. "No?" "You know?" :angel: :p

Bascule
09-17-2007, 12:29 AM
mac, you should add: I don't like Djokovic's ass.
Then we wouldn't waste our time.

l_mac
09-17-2007, 12:30 AM
Yes, Clay, there are more women in this thread than men, no? Haha, ok, this was "mac" thread. Now, our fellow Djoko: absolutely, Farenhajt, that's what I said, he doesn't care anymore, his stronger then last year. And I like him more for his statements full of selfconfidence, althought some find that's annoying.

Farenhajt

Back on topic - You appear to be a new Djokotard. (I hope you don't take major offense to that.) Would you have problems appreciating Federer if it were proven he had a serious dislike of Novak? Do you already dislike Federer?


I knew I'd done the wrong thing bringing the thread back on topic. My time in the sun was all too brief, but brightly did I burn.

I don't have a problem with Djoko's self confidence. The attention whoring bugs. I think he talks in sound bites too. He has the appearance of one who has had substantial media training.

l_mac
09-17-2007, 12:31 AM
mac, you should add: I don't like Djokovic[B]s ass[B].
Then we wouldn't waste our time.


I don't have an opinion on Djokovic's ass. I don't even know if he's got one worth mentioning.

roxannax
09-17-2007, 12:31 AM
This is quickly becoming by far the most interesting thread here :)

Another thing perhaps: when you're about to exercise your tard rights and treat your fellow fan from the opposing tribe with VERY juicy and carefully assorted language - and I dare expect only males are prone to such fits :) - it's almost impossible to think of the other side as a female: rage brakes would kick in almost instantly :)

Do you mean to say that a guy can not possibly get angry with or insult a girl? :) Sounds incurably romantic to me, but unfortunately couldn't be further from truth :sad:

MatchFederer
09-17-2007, 12:32 AM
Come on Djokovic! Take away the no.2 spot from Nadal.. and then Gasquet.. you push Djokovic down to no.3!

Bascule
09-17-2007, 12:40 AM
I don't have an opinion on Djokovic's ass. I don't even know if he's got one worth mentioning.
I thought you guys like serbian humor?!:devil:

l_mac
09-17-2007, 12:41 AM
I thought you guys like serbian humor?!:devil:

Didn't we spend 2 hours establishing that I'm not a guy? ;)

MCL
09-17-2007, 12:42 AM
Didn't we spend 2 hours establishing that I'm not a guy? ;)

I support you no matter what you are. :bigclap:


(trying out "fanLadying" :) )

l_mac
09-17-2007, 12:46 AM
I support you no matter what you are. :bigclap:


(trying out "fanLadying" :) )

You're doing an awesome job. You can be l_mactard Fanlady#1 if you want.

Allure
09-17-2007, 12:47 AM
Come on Djokovic! Take away the no.2 spot from Nadal.. and then Gasquet.. you push Djokovic down to no.3!

Keep dreaming. :haha:

Bascule
09-17-2007, 12:47 AM
Guy or gay, does it matter? Haha, mac, I used wrong word for you: not "rude", I ment "rough". Sorry, you're still very sweet and have tolerance. Why don't you like Nole's statements? He sounds like real man.

MatchFederer
09-17-2007, 12:48 AM
Keep dreaming? It is definitely a possibility. :p Oh wait.. perhaps not the Gasquet bit, but Djokovic claiming the no.2 spot is definitely very possible.

Allure
09-17-2007, 12:50 AM
Keep dreaming? It is definitely a possibility. :p Oh wait.. perhaps not the Gasquet bit, but Djokovic claiming the no.2 spot is definitely very possible.

I'll give you the latter. ;)

l_mac
09-17-2007, 12:52 AM
Guy or gay, does it matter? Haha, mac, I used wrong word for you: not "rude", I ment "rough". Sorry, you're still very sweet and have tolerance. Why don't you like Nole's statements? He sounds like real man.


Rough??! That's worse than rude! I think you might be a hater :(

I said why I don't like Nole's statements. I think he sometimes says things that he knows will draw attention to him. He's too fame hungry for my tastes. And I was an Agassi fan, so that's a bold statement I'm making :lol:

MatchFederer
09-17-2007, 12:52 AM
But I do VERY MUCH hope Gasquet can make some huge strides next year, love his game.

MatchFederer
09-17-2007, 12:54 AM
Rough??! That's worse than rude! I think you might be a hater :(

I said why I don't like Nole's statements. I think he sometimes says things that he knows will draw attention to him. He's too fame hungry for my tastes. And I was an Agassi fan, so that's a bold statement I'm making :lol:

Why is your signature 'I Don't like Djokovic'?

I mean, why that instead of players you do like or something else.. I dunno. But yeah.. why?

Allure
09-17-2007, 12:54 AM
But I do VERY MUCH hope Gasquet can make some huge strides next year, love his game.

Me too. I want him to be in a GS final with Roger. That would be too beautiful to watch. :hearts:

l_mac
09-17-2007, 12:55 AM
Keep dreaming? It is definitely a possibility. :p Oh wait.. perhaps not the Gasquet bit, but Djokovic claiming the no.2 spot is definitely very possible.

I'll give you the latter. ;)

But I do VERY MUCH hope Gasquet can make some huge strides next year, love his game.


Why are you two so off topic? You both seem very sure Nole can back his results up next year. Or do you think he'll reach #2 before the end of this season?

Farenhajt
09-17-2007, 12:56 AM
Farenhajt

Back on topic - You appear to be a new Djokotard. (I hope you don't take major offense to that.) Would you have problems appreciating Federer if it were proven he had a serious dislike of Novak? Do you already dislike Federer?

I presume "new" means "new around here", which is true. (In real life, I've been following his career for some time now.)

The answer: I really don't see why SHOULD I. My ultimate interest is that Novak starts beating Federer on anything resembling a regular basis, and nothing else ("nothing else" is a sort of a polite understatement, since that alone should start the whole chain of other desirable outcomes, of course). Roger holds something that Novak wants, and I stand behind my guy who wishes to get hold of that. But I don't HATE or DISRESPECT Federer, NOR I think their mutual opinion is important to THEM. On the other hand, as every fan, I do take it somewhat personally when OTHER FANS talk bad about my lad, especially if I think it's undeserved. In such situations I tend to react, but then, we all do. (It's all but natural to defend your champion, isn't it?)

As for disliking Federer: as an everyday guy, he don't impress me much (Oh Shania, where art thou?). What some people read as "class", I read as some kind of (Swiss?) coldness with a touch of arrogance. He's undoubtely intelligent, well-spoken, witty, can serve as a role model, but he just doesn't strike me as someone I'd make friends or have a good time with. As a player, his record is impressive, but believe it or not, I'm neither a worshipper nor an envious greenface. He's got enormous talent, he works hard, he deserved all he's got, but I'm really more interested in MY GUY becoming what I believe he's capable for. Other than Federer being a person who's occupying the spot meant for Nole (speaking as a fan now, of course), I have absolutely nothing personal against him.

l_mac
09-17-2007, 12:56 AM
Why is your signature 'I Don't like Djokovic'?

I mean, why that instead of players you do like or something else.. I dunno. But yeah.. why?


I already answered that question this thread.

MatchFederer
09-17-2007, 12:56 AM
Heh... Yes, it would be a wonderful display of shotmaking from both players. Hopefully Gasquet can pull a Federer and start getting his head truly together right about... now.

l_mac
09-17-2007, 12:56 AM
Me too. I want him to be in a GS final with Roger. That would be too beautiful to watch. :hearts:


Did you miss their semi at Wimbledon this year?

MatchFederer
09-17-2007, 12:58 AM
I already answered that question this thread.

My internet is not the fastest. Could you possibly tell me which post no. it is that you answered the question in?

l_mac
09-17-2007, 01:00 AM
My internet is not the fastest. Could you possibly tell me which post no. it is that you answered the question in?

Well, thanks. I think. I already explained my sig! It's not a serious statement of contempt, it was meant as a jokey reaction to Nole's sudden burst of popularity here at MTF. It is true though. I do not care for him at all.

You'll have to guess again on the very young thing unfortunately. Unless it's a relative thing and you're 80.

I didn't have a signature before, but I put this on after the outpouring of love for Nole on GM when he beat Rafa at Montreal. I felt like a lone voice :sad: Then the next day he beat Fed and I had lots of new like minded allies :lol:

I'm so kind.

MatchFederer
09-17-2007, 01:00 AM
Why are you two so off topic? You both seem very sure Nole can back his results up next year. Or do you think he'll reach #2 before the end of this season?

I think Novak will have a shot at the no.2 ranking by the time the Australion Open rolls around. I think he can improve his points tally in the clay season too and that Nadal will have problems defending all his point during the clay court season; all the clay court tournies have been bunched together next year due to it being Olympic year, haven't they?

Bascule
09-17-2007, 01:03 AM
128916
"classy" federer, hahaha

Allure
09-17-2007, 01:03 AM
Did you miss their semi at Wimbledon this year?

I didn't watch it because it wasn't shown live. Plus I knew Gasquet would be tired due to his match with Roddick the day before. I want a fresh and on fire Gasquet to meet Federer. I think those two, when their game is on, can produce a great match.

l_mac
09-17-2007, 01:03 AM
I think Novak will have a shot at the no.2 ranking by the time the Australion Open rolls around. I think he can improve his points tally in the clay season too and that Nadal will have problems defending all his point during the clay court season; all the clay court tournies have been bunched together next year due to it being Olympic year, haven't they?

I suppose he might drop Hamburg or Barcelona. He's playing the SA clay swing next year. You have to assume he'll pick points up there. Nole had some good results in the clay season. He won estoril and had 2 QFs in the MS and a SF at RG. I don't think he'll defend all his Miami and IW points. But, yeah, if he has a good season indoors and gets further than Rafa at the AO he has a good chance. I'm less sure than you are about him defending all his points from March onward though. You've got to think that there will be a new Djoko next year.

Allure
09-17-2007, 01:05 AM
128916
"classy" federer, hahaha

Even milking a cow, he is classy. :)

MatchFederer
09-17-2007, 01:06 AM
I think Djokovic and Nadal would both do well to defend their points up to Wimbledon next year and then they both have a LOT of points to defend at Wimbledon too. I think Djokovic will have chances well into 2008 at getting the no.2 ranking. Nadal will be feeling the heat.

l_mac
09-17-2007, 01:06 AM
I didn't watch it because it wasn't shown live. Plus I knew Gasquet would be tired due to his match with Roddick the day before. I want a fresh and on fire Gasquet to meet Federer. I think those two, when their game is on, can produce a great match.

I don't doubt it. The circumstances will have to be right though, and if it is to be a Slam final then it will require Gasquet having a very easy time up to the final so he's nice and fresh. And it couldn't be his first final so that nerves don't play a part.

Bascule
09-17-2007, 01:07 AM
my grandma was also classy in milking, hahaha

MCL
09-17-2007, 01:08 AM
I presume "new" means "new around here", which is true. (In real life, I've been following his career for some time now.)

The answer: I really don't see why SHOULD I. My ultimate interest is that Novak starts beating Federer on anything resembling a regular basis, and nothing else ("nothing else" is a sort of a polite understatement, since that alone should start the whole chain of other desirable outcomes, of course). Roger holds something that Novak wants, and I stand behind my guy who wishes to get hold of that. But I don't HATE or DISRESPECT Federer, NOR I think their mutual opinion is important to THEM. On the other hand, as every fan, I do take it somewhat personally when OTHER FANS talk bad about my lad, especially if I think it's undeserved. In such situations I tend to react, but then, we all do. (It's all but natural to defend your champion, isn't it?)

As for disliking Federer: as an everyday guy, he doesn't impress me much (Oh Shania, where art thou?). What some people read as "class", I read as some kind of (Swiss?) coldness with a touch of arrogance. He's undoubtely intelligent, well-spoken, witty, can serve as a role model, but he just doesn't strike me as someone I'd make friends or have a good time with. As a player, his record is impressive, but believe it or not, I'm neither a worshipper nor an envious greenface. He's got enormous talent, he works hard, he deserved all he's got, but I'm really more interested in MY GUY becoming what I believe he's capable for. Other than Federer being a person who's occupying the spot meant for Nole (speaking as a fan now, of course), I have absolutely nothing personal against him.

Well I can respect (most of) that. ;) In your defense of Nole you appeared to be going to tardish anti-Fed levels. :o Perhaps as a Fed fan, my perception is off. I kind of like the two of them having tension.

I like both players but support Federer more. It'd be nice if Djokovic wins the Australian Open or US Open next year given that Federer has won this past US Open and will likely maintain his number one spot.

Nole is a bit of a cocky arrogant SOB but I kind of like that. :help:
I like his confidence and his humor but I don't like his occasional gamesmanship (with the injury breaks). I also recognize that he's not the only player who does that. Hopefully, he'll have a very successful career.

MatchFederer
09-17-2007, 01:08 AM
Allure... this is for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7qG0RAPjCM

Sunset of Age
09-17-2007, 01:09 AM
128916
"classy" federer, hahaha

<INSERT FEDERER DEFENCE MODE>What's wrong with Rogi milking Juliette? :confused: ;) </INSERT> :angel:

Allure
09-17-2007, 01:12 AM
I don't doubt it. The circumstances will have to be right though, and if it is to be a Slam final then it will require Gasquet having a very easy time up to the final so he's nice and fresh. And it couldn't be his first final so that nerves don't play a part.

I think if he gets his head together, he could be in the finals of US Open 08. AO is probably going to be Djokovic. Nadal for French and Wimbledon.

Bascule
09-17-2007, 01:17 AM
Mac, dear, remember I was your first tard? I'm not a hater, as Claybuster said in her signature: hate is something I don't understand, or what, blabla... I just maybe used the wrong word, I ment on that "beard" of you. But, as you're sweet, you'll understand that since the war begin I wasn't abroad and haven't opportunity to practice my english. It sounds terrible, no? And still, you see, lot of people doesn't understand that signature of you, it doesn't look serious.
Farenhajt, upravo isto to u vezi rodzera osecam i ja i mnogi nasi.
Federer, how snobish it sounds, but not very interessting.

Farenhajt
09-17-2007, 01:20 AM
Nole is a bit of a cocky arrogant SOB but I kind of like that. :help:

I like that too, you know :) It goes well with general Serbian mentality (usually we can easily relate to such an attitude), and I think it's also good to have some kind of "image war": "classy, slightly detached" Federer against "wanna piece of me, buddy?" Djokovic.

Bascule
09-17-2007, 01:24 AM
That was what McEnroe said about Nole: cocky, but I like it.
Well, I see you all like it, then no argue anymore.

l_mac
09-17-2007, 01:25 AM
Mac, dear, remember I was your first tard? I'm not a hater, as Claybuster said in her signature: hate is something I don't understand, or what, blabla... I just maybe used the wrong word, I ment on that "beard" of you. But, as you're sweet, you'll understand that since the war begin I wasn't abroad and haven't opportunity to practice my english. It sounds terrible, no? And still, you see, lot of people doesn't understand that signature of you, it doesn't look serious.
Farenhajt, upravo isto to u vezi rodzera osecam i ja i mnogi nasi.
Federer, how snobish it sounds, but not very interessting.

:hug: I don't really understand what you're saying here, but I was only kidding about you being a hater. And I don't really have a beard. :lol: I think everyone understands my signature - I don't like Djokovic. I don't, regardless of my reasons for making the statement my signature. :lol:

Bascule
09-17-2007, 01:30 AM
Mac, I'm worried about you, you took every word I say too seriously. I understand now why Djoko goes to your nerves. Easy, man or woman(whatever), aren't you joking about your beard. So was I. Love you, but relax!

Allure
09-17-2007, 01:30 AM
Allure... this is for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7qG0RAPjCM

Thanks Oxygene. Some shots of Gasquet's were amazing. :eek: But Federer's passing shots were out of this world. If it weren't for the scoreline I would have deem it a fantastic match. I want to download it now. :)

l_mac
09-17-2007, 01:33 AM
Mac, I'm worried about you, you took every word I say too seriously. I understand now why Djoko goes to your nerves. Easy, man or woman(whatever), aren't you joking about your beard. So was I. Love you, but relax!

I'm not taking you seriously, look at all the smilies I've used! I didn't understand the bit in your post about the "beard" that's all.




(Djokovic isn't funny - he tries too hard)

Farenhajt
09-17-2007, 01:39 AM
(Djokovic isn't funny - he tries too hard)

I bet you would take those words back if he impersonated Murray next and lose his first Madrid match 6-1 6-0 :p

Anyhoo, is there any girlie bopper (or a gay boy, for that matter) whose sexual fantasies include turning into the ball and getting smashed by both players in turn? ;) (I dare not think about doubles matches... :))

l_mac
09-17-2007, 01:46 AM
I bet you would take those words back if he impersonated Murray next and lose his first Madrid match 6-1 6-0 :p

I bet I wouldn't! :p

Anyhoo, is there any girlie bopper (or a gay boy, for that matter) whose sexual fantasies include turning into the ball and getting smashed by both players in turn? ;)

Nooo. But if that's your fantasy, I can see why you like Nole. He can endlessly bang the ball hard off both sides. :) The dream match up would be Davydenko. You'd be bashed across the court for hours.

Bascule
09-17-2007, 01:47 AM
I was joking about your beard, saying you're a "rough guy"(ZZ Top).
But, about Nole, I'm not joking. He is intelligent very, very much, has a sense for humor in good way. You can see by his eyes how smart he is. Really great guy, you just refuse to see that. He's not trying too hard, it sounds like beeing stupid and trying hard, wtf?! In Serbia, there are lot of smart and funny guys, look Farenhajt for example. All my friends and familly aboard are very popular, cross my heart.

l_mac
09-17-2007, 01:50 AM
I was joking about your beard, saying you're a "rough guy"(ZZ Top).

Ah, okay. Now I understand.

But, about Nole, I'm not joking. He is intelligent very, very much, has a sense for humor in good way. You can see by his eyes how smart he is. Really great guy, you just refuse to see that. He's not trying too hard, it sounds like beeing stupid and trying hard, wtf?! In Serbia, there are lot of smart and funny guys, look Farenhajt for example. All my friends and familly aboard are very popular, cross my heart.

Yeah, I'm just not looking to be convinced on Nole. Sorry.

Farenhajt
09-17-2007, 02:01 AM
Nooo. But if that's your fantasy, I can see why you like Nole. He can endlessly bang the ball hard off both sides. :) The dream match up would be Davydenko. You'd be bashed across the court for hours.

Urgh... mentioning Davydenko in any kind of sexual context should be officially censored :) (I said somewhere earlier he reminds me of a malnourished Russian child, which isn't really my cup of erotic tea :))... May I have Steps instead? He's just as ugly, but at least chips and charges and finishes quickly :p

l_mac
09-17-2007, 02:03 AM
Have who you like - it's your fantasy. Your very strange fantasy :lol: Steps and Djokovic - bleurgh. I'm going to bed now. You better not have given me nightmares.

Farenhajt
09-17-2007, 02:05 AM
Well, it's your choice. Either you get to like Nole, at least a bit, or you'll be given nightmares :) Good night.

MCL
09-17-2007, 02:09 AM
l _ mac is leaving the building :sad:


(holds on to spot as #1 l_mac FanLady)

Corey Feldman
09-26-2007, 08:25 PM
What a thread

Shouldnt the issue be 'what has Djokovic, his mental family and all Serbians have against Federer'

i mean really, what Fed said last year - what was the big deal? all he said was what 75% of ppl in tennis knew about Novak and his time out shit.

the reaction of them since has been unbelievable.

His parents are total disrespectful idiots .. ive never seen the like (ATP version of the Williams parents?) his dad was bad enough and made to look a right tool when Nole crapped out against Fed in the US Open final, (contrary to his dad's idea's of federer being scared :lol: )

but what the flying fork was his Mother all about after the final?
"Novak is better than Federer" its one thing to be all 'Motherly' and say your son is always the best but ppl are deluding themselves if they think that is what his mum was doing - she said it to the media and said ot for effect, what a bad loser :rolleyes:

"Tennis needs new faces"
"young boys who enjoy playing tennis"

attempted barbs at Federer? yep, pathetic.
since when did Fed not enjoy playing tennis? they think coz nole is a clown with his on court antics that every player who is not like that - somehow shouldnt be playing (and Nole throws plenty of hissy fits as well when he's getting beat)
if ppl wanna see clowns, go to a circus, the ppl who wanna see great tennis... come to Federer matches in the first place and have been for 10 years, Serbian muppets :rolleyes:


All great players take the challenge of trying to usurp the best and take the no1 place themselves (its the chase that is probably the best part) but not in the Djokovic family mentality, the attitude of them is 'Federer and Nadal can just dissapear of the tennis scene for us and stop getting in the way of our boy having it all handed to him on a plate'

just :o :o :o

utter cretins and are they helping Novak with they're attidues, i dont think so.

pushy parents in tennis is very 10 years ago and these disgraceful OAFS have no place to suggest tennis needs rid of Federer , either watch and support your son and keep your big mouths shut or go back to running the Pizza parlour.

the time to talk smack is when your kid becomes a champion, they should get that into they're thick heads.


The Djokotards are trying to win the title "Most Sensitive Fanbase." They need everyone to love their boy. And show him the respect he deserves.Absolutely spot on.

Corey Feldman
09-26-2007, 08:34 PM
Seems sour grapes is something in all the Serbs

did anyone read Nole's webiste after the final, they had comments from these 'so-called' serbian celebs, actors whatever.

enjoy :lol:

Lazar Ristovski, actor, producer, director:

- The one who wins is always better, so Federer was better last night, but Novak is a guy who has a great future before him and who will surely become world no. 1. What Novak plays is art, while the way Federer plays, it seems to me, it is his job. In Djokovic's game the job and art are actually joined in the best possible way.

so apparently Its Nole who has the artistic tennis and not Federer? :lol:


Ivana Vujic, director:

- Novak was great. He is still young, but I am sure he will be world no. 1. My heart is with him, not because he is from my country, but because the game means life to him, he shows his emotions, unlike Federer. Novak applauded to every good shot that Federer made-he enjoys playing while Federer, although a great player, just chases points.

Novak claps, and Fed just chases points... Ok

:lol:

Dragan Jovanovic, actor:

- I think the result could have been 3-0 for Novak Djokovic. Simply, it was luck that decided. Of course, I consider Novak's success, a success for Serbian sport and the country. I think we should be proud of him.

Dragan Jovanovic? wait a minute.........
this is just Nole's Family posting these messages isnt ?

:haha: :haha:

Corey Feldman
09-26-2007, 08:39 PM
Nole is OK, to me.......... dont really like him, dont hate him either.

he has things that are annoying, dont all the players? even Fed and Muzza annoy me.

what HE says about Fed i take as tongue-in-cheek comments, totally diff to his mental parents and disciples.

what he said about Muzza's injury earlier this year was snidey, and i hope Andy remembers that when Nole is acting like his buddy again on tour.

also, he is quite the immitator yes...... but i didnt find it that funny when he was immitating Bagdatis' well known chest pounding celebrations infront of Marcos' fans during that Wimby match.

Sadly Marcos choked like a Mutha in that match as well.

before Nole WD from a Grand Slam Semi with that almighty painful as hell injury ............................ the sore pinky toe.

l_mac
09-26-2007, 08:43 PM
Seems sour grapes is something in all the Serbs

did anyone read Nole's webiste after the final, they had comments from these 'so-called' serbian celebs, actors whatever.

enjoy :lol:

Lazar Ristovski, actor, producer, director:

- The one who wins is always better, so Federer was better last night, but Novak is a guy who has a great future before him and who will surely become world no. 1. What Novak plays is art, while the way Federer plays, it seems to me, it is his job. In Djokovic's game the job and art are actually joined in the best possible way.

so apparently Its Nole who has the artistic tennis and not Federer? :lol:


Ivana Vujic, director:

- Novak was great. He is still young, but I am sure he will be world no. 1. My heart is with him, not because he is from my country, but because the game means life to him, he shows his emotions, unlike Federer. Novak applauded to every good shot that Federer made-he enjoys playing while Federer, although a great player, just chases points.

Novak claps, and Fed just chases points... Ok

:lol:

Dragan Jovanovic, actor:

- I think the result could have been 3-0 for Novak Djokovic. Simply, it was luck that decided. Of course, I consider Novak's success, a success for Serbian sport and the country. I think we should be proud of him.

Dragan Jovanovic? wait a minute.........
this is just Nole's Family posting these messages isnt ?

:haha: :haha:

:haha: :haha:

Are those real?

Re-reading this thread makes me feel sad for the loss of the l_mactards (very shortlived :( ) and particularly sad in the apparent breakdown of relations between myself and Farenhajt :sad: :lol:

Alex999
09-26-2007, 08:44 PM
Escude why are you trolling here? What is your problem? You are bumping like 10 old threads.

Corey Feldman
09-26-2007, 08:48 PM
they are real I_Mac

dont be sad about the breakdown in relations with those desciples :D

Escude why are you trolling here? What is your problem? You are bumping like 10 old threadsGiving my opinion is trolling? let me guess

Djokovic fan?

thanks for coming :lol:

Alex999
09-26-2007, 09:07 PM
they are real I_Mac

dont be sad about the breakdown in relations with those desciples :D

Giving my opinion is trolling? let me guess

Djokovic fan?

thanks for coming :lol:

What's your point? Why wouldn't I like #3, 20yo up coming new tennis star Novak (I like Gasqet, Berdych etc too). It is great for this game. Why would you hate him? You are probably affraid that Fed won't win 3578 slams. He will, don't worry.

Farenhajt
09-26-2007, 09:11 PM
Escude why are you trolling here? What is your problem? You are bumping like 10 old threads.

No need to react, Alex - just let him troll. Murray is day-before-yesterday's news, and Fed is not going to get overwhelmingly better any time soon (or ever, for that matter). Basically, Novak fans should just keep quiet (and perhaps bump haters' threads after every Novak's title, just for fun) and let lost cases wriggle on the hook :) (the deeper one's hurt, the louder one screams, that's only natural)

Corey Feldman
09-26-2007, 09:22 PM
Why would you hate him? You are probably affraid that Fed won't win 3578 slams. He will, don't worry.MAd croats


and now MAD Serbs and Canadians :lol:

another RFK account? ;)

if they have a canadian flag, obsession with Star Wars or are a newcomer the week after Fed wins a slam - its RFK.

GlennMirnyi
09-26-2007, 09:31 PM
Mikey in da house and MTF can only win with that.

Allure
09-26-2007, 09:38 PM
Seems sour grapes is something in all the Serbs

did anyone read Nole's webiste after the final, they had comments from these 'so-called' serbian celebs, actors whatever.

enjoy :lol:

Lazar Ristovski, actor, producer, director:

- The one who wins is always better, so Federer was better last night, but Novak is a guy who has a great future before him and who will surely become world no. 1. What Novak plays is art, while the way Federer plays, it seems to me, it is his job. In Djokovic's game the job and art are actually joined in the best possible way.

so apparently Its Nole who has the artistic tennis and not Federer? :lol:


Ivana Vujic, director:

- Novak was great. He is still young, but I am sure he will be world no. 1. My heart is with him, not because he is from my country, but because the game means life to him, he shows his emotions, unlike Federer. Novak applauded to every good shot that Federer made-he enjoys playing while Federer, although a great player, just chases points.

Novak claps, and Fed just chases points... Ok

:lol:

Dragan Jovanovic, actor:

- I think the result could have been 3-0 for Novak Djokovic. Simply, it was luck that decided. Of course, I consider Novak's success, a success for Serbian sport and the country. I think we should be proud of him.

Dragan Jovanovic? wait a minute.........
this is just Nole's Family posting these messages isnt ?

:haha: :haha:


Djokovic's game art? :haha: So Roddick and Nadal are court geniuses then. :lol:

I bet those ''actors'' are actually alex99, Ezekiel, Fahrenjeit quotes but they put those actor names so the site will have credibility. Has anyone even heard of those actors? :lol:

Bascule
09-26-2007, 09:53 PM
This is sick. You really need some professional help, guys.

Bascule
09-26-2007, 09:58 PM
If you didn't hear for Lazar Ristovski, then you're not well informed. He was winner in Cannes. Are you informed about tennis later?

Allure
09-26-2007, 10:04 PM
This is sick. You really need some professional help, guys.

Yeah if you think Djoke's game is art but not Federer and Djoke applaud points but Roger only care to win then you need help.

Corey Feldman
09-26-2007, 10:06 PM
If you didn't hear for Lazar Ristovski, then you're not well informed. He was winner in Cannes.Yeah?

when did they hold that tournament?

:haha:

elessar
09-26-2007, 10:08 PM
If you didn't hear for Lazar Ristovski, then you're not well informed. He was winner in Cannes. Are you informed about tennis later?

Pfff it's like the worse MM event there is ...

trixtah
09-26-2007, 10:26 PM
Yeah if you think Djoke's game is art but not Federer and Djoke applaud points but Roger only care to win then you need help.

Way to twist the words around...:rolleyes:

though I don't really agree with the original quote

oh well, pride in his country

elessar
09-26-2007, 10:34 PM
Way to twist the words around...:rolleyes:

though I don't really agree with the original quote

oh well, pride in his country

Actually he/she didn't twist anything that's exactly what he said. Anyway what did people expect it's posted on his website it's not like those "celebrities" were going to say : way to choke man

Allure
09-26-2007, 10:36 PM
Way to twist the words around...:rolleyes:

though I don't really agree with the original quote

oh well, pride in his country

How did I twist the words around. What Novak plays is art, while the way Federer plays, it seems to me, it is his job. So the ''actor'' is saying Djokovic's game is art while Federer isn't.

Novak applauded to every good shot that Federer made-he enjoys playing while Federer, although a great player, just chases points. Again what did I misquote?

Farenhajt
09-26-2007, 10:42 PM
Hej, bascule, samo iskuliraj budale, vidiš da su na nekoj kiselini, njima ni elektrošokovi više neće pomoći. Vratio im se kolovođa, nek mu ližu dupe, a mi znamo šta će biti u vrlo bliskoj budućnosti :) zato samo mirno, ne daj se isprovocirati :)

elessar
09-26-2007, 10:46 PM
Hej, bascule, samo iskuliraj budale, vidiš da su na nekoj kiselini, njima ni elektrošokovi više neće pomoći. Vratio im se kolovođa, nek mu ližu dupe, a mi znamo šta će biti u vrlo bliskoj budućnosti :) zato samo mirno, ne daj se isprovocirati :)

Hey no fair speaking a foreign language in the middle of a tard war !! Tu parles Français Allure ?

star
09-26-2007, 10:49 PM
"I never speak against anyone, just as I'm not interested what others say about me."

:haha: :haha:

Bascule
09-26-2007, 10:50 PM
Ne mogu da verujem, a i mrzi me da elaboriram sta i zasto. Tebi svaka cast na zdravoj pameti koju imas kraj ovolikih papana.

Corey Feldman
09-26-2007, 10:54 PM
"I never speak against anyone, just as I'm not interested what others say about me."
:haha: :haha:Look.........
another of Federer's fan club is here :wavey:

star
09-26-2007, 11:01 PM
Look.........
another of Federer's fan club is here :wavey:

:wavey: Trying not to bust a gut over that interview. That was one of the best ones yet. Lots of good lines in there. I like the one about "I don't underestimate him and he shouldn't underestimate me either," or whatever. That was a good one too. Sending a little bit of a message there, eh?

So, Mirka is Feddey's stylist? That explains SO much. :) :) :)

Corey Feldman
09-26-2007, 11:08 PM
Mirka does everything possible to make sure her man concentrates on only getting the big wins....
so she has been doing a pretty brilliant job for the last 4 years hasnt she? :D

star
09-26-2007, 11:34 PM
Mirka does everything possible to make sure her man concentrates on only getting the big wins....
so she has been doing a pretty brilliant job for the last 4 years hasnt she? :D

She's great -- except for the "stylist" part. :p

Corey Feldman
09-26-2007, 11:50 PM
Why? me being biased aside, i think Fed is the most stylish guy out there... always looks the part.

the handbag is a bit much and i miss the ponytail.

Sunset of Age
09-27-2007, 12:25 AM
Why? me being biased aside, i think Fed is the most stylish guy out there... always looks the part.

HE surely is, but I've seen Mirka appear in certain 'fashion statements' on which the only thing I could think about is... :tape: :help: :tape: :bolt:

the handbag is a bit much and i miss the ponytail.

That handbag was surely a case of :help: :help: :help:!
And yeah, I miss the ponytail as well, just like the stubbles... :sad: :drool:

star
09-27-2007, 12:32 AM
Why? me being biased aside, i think Fed is the most stylish guy out there... always looks the part.

the handbag is a bit much and i miss the ponytail.

The shorter hair much improves his looks. If that was Mirka, she did well. But, the Wimbledon jackets :haha: The tuxedo stripe? :haha: The man bag? :haha: :haha: :haha: The gold lame jacket? :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

Corey Feldman
09-27-2007, 12:41 AM
A champions look Star

of course all that would look daft on someone ranked 87th or something :angel:

Like in Golf when someone wins the Masters they get a green jacket........ from now on Wimbledon champs get the white jackets, Fed the trend setter :worship:

Fed in all black at the US Open was :yeah: especially with the star wars music :lol:

just like the stubbles... :sad: :drool: Hmm not the stubbles for me, the pony tail... and remember the all red kits he would wear in 2000 and 2001, and the beads :D

the young days.

GlennMirnyi
09-27-2007, 12:43 AM
Why? me being biased aside, i think Fed is the most stylish guy out there... always looks the part.

the handbag is a bit much and i miss the ponytail.

Miss it too, and the AO 2005 hair too.

Byrd
09-27-2007, 12:45 AM
One of the handful of guys to pull off celebrating with your trousers on the wrong way, very stylish.

Sunset of Age
09-27-2007, 12:47 AM
One of the handful of guys to pull off celebrating with your trousers on the wrong way, very stylish.

:tape: :help: :tape: :help: :haha:
Indeed. :angel:

Corey Feldman
09-27-2007, 12:51 AM
Miss it too, and the AO 2005 hair too.and the 2005 AO blue shoes...

none of this style compates to Radek's Czech strip last week ;)


One of the handful of guys to pull off celebrating with your trousers on the wrong way, very stylish.:lol:
i never even noticed that at the time, then i seen the pics...

GlennMirnyi
09-27-2007, 01:00 AM
and the 2005 AO blue shoes...

none of this style compates to Radek's Czech strip last week ;)


Federer is stylish but nothing compares to Radek. ;) :worship:

vahep
09-27-2007, 06:04 PM
Oh great, the arseclown with his psycho mum/dad are the future of tennis? Can't wait.

FedFan_2007
09-27-2007, 06:26 PM
Actually Ljuba-Truba is the most stylish with his Diadora stylins.

elessar
09-27-2007, 06:31 PM
Federer is stylish but nothing compares to Radek. ;) :worship:

It's not his fault, I mean I know he's trying hard hanging out with the devil and all but who could compete with that :worship:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40763000/jpg/_40763230_hrbaty.jpg

Peoples
09-27-2007, 08:32 PM
Federer: You all watched the finals. I was on a brink of a defeat

Brink of defeat, right.. He's being pretty generous.

Corey Feldman
09-27-2007, 08:40 PM
Federer is doing what he always does, being overly complimentary.... just like when he said he thought Henman could come back and beat him when he led 6-4 6-0 5-2 at Wimbledon last year :lol:

Sure Nole had his chances in the sets, but how close you are - and who actually wins the big points is two different things.

Djokovic learned the difference between playing Federer in a TMS final ... and a Grand Slam final.

star
09-27-2007, 09:49 PM
Federer is doing what he always does, being overly complimentary.... just like when he said he thought Henman could come back and beat him when he led 6-4 6-0 5-2 at Wimbledon last year :lol:

Sure Nole had his chances in the sets, but how close you are - and who actually wins the big points is two different things.

Djokovic learned the difference between playing Federer in a TMS final ... and a Grand Slam final.

Feddy is always nicer to players after he has beaten them. :):)

Just a tad on the gritchy side when they beat him. ;)

mangoes
09-27-2007, 10:54 PM
HE surely is, but I've seen Mirka appear in certain 'fashion statements' on which the only thing I could think about is... :tape: :bolt:


That handbag was surely a case of :help: :help:!
And yeah, I miss the ponytail as well, just like the stubbles... :sad: :drool:

:tape: :tape: on Mirka's fashion statements:o The handbag was a bit too much:lol: :lol: But, I think he looks better with short hair.

She's great -- except for the "stylist" part. :p

I'm sure she helps Roger in many parts of his life, but I seriously doubt she has much to do with his style. I'm guessing he is just being the adoring boyfriend when claiming such. But Roger is every bit the metrosexual:lol: :lol: :lol: He has a great sense of style.....but I can't say the same about his other half.

Why? me being biased aside, i think Fed is the most stylish guy out there... always looks the part.


Agree. I also like how some of the youngsters are trying to follow him by dressing in jackets and sometimes suits at off court events. Very nice.

One of the handful of guys to pull off celebrating with your trousers on the wrong way, very stylish.

:haha: :haha:

Federer is stylish but nothing compares to Radek. :worship:


That outfit is a classic:haha: :haha:

scarecrows
09-27-2007, 10:55 PM
It's not his fault, I mean I know he's trying hard hanging out with the devil and all but who could compete with that :worship:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40763000/jpg/_40763230_hrbaty.jpg

Dominator is whole another story :worship:

rofe
09-27-2007, 10:56 PM
Feddy is always nicer to players after he has beaten them. :):)

Just a tad on the gritchy side when they beat him. ;)

Yes, that is why he was so complementary about Novak after the loss. :rolleyes:

R.Federer
09-27-2007, 11:13 PM
The other players on the tour they are very different, you know, they are MUCH NICER when they get a beating from some player than when they win against that player... :rolleyes: :lol:

Sunset of Age
09-27-2007, 11:18 PM
Agree. I also like how some of the youngsters are trying to follow him by dressing in jackets and sometimes suits at off court events. Very nice.


One of them being Rafa! :hearts: :worship:
He's a true fan of Feddy's, the dearie. :D

Corey Feldman
09-28-2007, 02:36 AM
Feddy is always nicer to players after he has beaten them. :):)

Just a tad on the gritchy side when they beat him. ;)You are describing tennis players ......... sportsmen, athletes.

happy when they win but wont be jumping around for joy when they lose, will they? :p

dont think your own fave players have been any different down the years.

Allure
09-28-2007, 02:40 AM
You are describing tennis players ......... sportsmen, athletes.

happy when they win but wont be jumping around for joy when they lose, will they? :p

dont think your own fave players have been any different down the years.

Don't you know Nadal always parties when he loses. :banana:

Corey Feldman
09-28-2007, 02:59 AM
Yeah, that scowl on his face when he's losing has always said 'where is the party at tonight' to me
;)

Soderling's place.

Allure
09-28-2007, 03:04 AM
Yeah, that scowl on his face when he's losing has always said 'where is the party at tonight' to me
;)

Soderling's place.

And when he said ''You are a bad person'' to Berdych he was smiling. :D

ezekiel
09-28-2007, 02:18 PM
Federer is doing what he always does, being overly complimentary.... just like when he said he thought Henman could come back and beat him when he led 6-4 6-0 5-2 at Wimbledon last year :lol:

Sure Nole had his chances in the sets, but how close you are - and who actually wins the big points is two different things.

Djokovic learned the difference between playing Federer in a TMS final ... and a Grand Slam final.

That result had everything to do with Nole and he is a quick learner, when he gets over it he will likely end Federer's reign and assume his role at the top

ezekiel
09-28-2007, 02:23 PM
The other players on the tour they are very different, you know, they are MUCH NICER when they get a beating from some player than when they win against that player... :rolleyes: :lol:

You have to be very confident but free of ego to be complimentary of your conqueror and learn from losses. Those traits are indeed rare but honourable

ezekiel
09-28-2007, 02:25 PM
Yes, that is why he was so complementary about Novak after the loss. :rolleyes:

what loss?

When he said after montreal it was "insignificant" or what did I miss ?

rofe
09-28-2007, 02:53 PM
what loss?

When he said after montreal it was "insignificant" or what did I miss ?

He complemented Novak's improvement and also complimented him on being the better player that day. The result and not Novak's play was definitely insignificant within the context of the US Open don't you think? :wavey:

Corey Feldman
09-28-2007, 03:20 PM
That result had everything to do with Nole and he is a quick learner, when he gets over it he will likely end Federer's reign and assume his role at the topMurray is better than Djokovic...
you better prepare for that in 2008.

ezekiel
09-28-2007, 03:33 PM
He complemented Novak's improvement and also complimented him on being the better player that day. The result and not Novak's play was definitely insignificant within the context of the US Open don't you think? :wavey:


IMO , The most significant improvement was on the part of Roger , going from calling someone a joke and comparing him unfavourably to just about anyone to insignificant is a big improvement . And the result is significant as Nole has designs on #1 for next year just like USO F was significant . Roger was just in denial

rofe
09-28-2007, 03:34 PM
IMO , The most significant improvement was on the part of Roger , going from calling someone a joke and comparing him unfavourably to just about anyone to insignificant is a big improvement . And the result is significant as Nole has designs on #1 for next year just like USO F was significant . Roger was just in denial

:haha: I shouldn't have expected a sane conversation with you about Novak.

ezekiel
09-28-2007, 03:36 PM
Murray is better than Djokovic...
you better prepare for that in 2008.

Murray who :angel: :o
Well if you say so :D

ezekiel
09-28-2007, 03:38 PM
:haha: I shouldn't have expected a sane conversation with you about Novak.

should I expect some reply that makes arguments

Sleepwalker64
09-28-2007, 03:40 PM
You are in a win/win situation, aren't you?
Until Murray show his worth...you will ride on Federer bandwagon?
Murray is good...he really is, and I really like both of brothers...is he better than Nole? So far, you are "Alice in Wonderland"

rofe
09-28-2007, 03:43 PM
should I expect some reply that makes arguments

You are speculating and I am showing you facts. What kind of argument do you want?

Roger is in denial and Nole is destined to be #1. How can I argue against pure speculation like that? :shrug:

Farenhajt
09-29-2007, 02:53 AM
Murray is better than Djokovic...
you better prepare for that in 2008.

And that's based on what? Their respective numbers of Mickey Mouse titles, Masters titles, Slam SF's/F's AND their H2H? :haha:

Corey Feldman
09-29-2007, 03:00 AM
You are in a win/win situation, aren't you?
Until Murray show his worth...you will ride on Federer bandwagon?
Murray is good...he really is, and I really like both of brothers...is he better than Nole? So far, you are "Alice in Wonderland"

Brilliant to see these Nole fans, who just joined this summer, calling others bandwaggon hoppers :lol: :o

And that's based on what? Their respective numbers of Mickey Mouse titles, Masters titles, Slam SF's/F's AND their H2H? :haha:Oh but wait........ when you make the same comparisons with Novak and Federer, 99% of your lot will say Djokovic is better... just ask his mummy for a start.

:haha:

Corey Feldman
09-29-2007, 03:02 AM
I knew id get one Djokovic fan to walk into that one :dance:

mission accomplished

next please.