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***** Captain Wasabi returns to Tokyo *****

Eden
09-16-2007, 10:57 AM
It's never to early to start a new thread for an upcoming tournament and we know time passes quickly ;)

I'm sure you all remember the blog which Roger wrote last year during his time in Tokyo. You can read it here: http://www.atptennis.com/en/blog/2006/federer.asp

More about this years tournament and the participating players you can find on the official homepage: http://aigopen.jp/07/index.en.shtml

Will anyone of our Japanese fellow Roger fans have the opportunity to go to the tournament? If yes, enjoy it and have a great time :)

Stevens Point
09-16-2007, 01:37 PM
There is a Japanese Federer forum, and there the fans are really excited! It will be a huge festival-thing for Japanese Roger fans there! :D

SUKTUEN
09-16-2007, 03:04 PM
GOOOOOOOOOOOO Roger!!!!!!!:bounce:

natasha_nana
09-16-2007, 05:17 PM
:haha: yeah his blog last year was great...that captain wasabi thing was hilarious lol.

wonder if he'll blog again this time...he hasn't done a blog this year has he? from any place else?

Or Levy
09-16-2007, 05:51 PM
I really hope he blogs again, it was so great last year. Humor (Captain Wasabi), Angst (Nightmares), and some good romance with Mirka, like a good Soap Opera.

Marek.
09-17-2007, 12:33 AM
If he wins this, Basel, and one of the AMS he secures #1 I think.

SUKTUEN
09-17-2007, 01:40 AM
will Roger still go to Basel this year?

lunahielo
09-17-2007, 02:14 AM
I wonder if there will be any live streaming from Tokyo?
Anyone know?

I remember the blog from last year~~~very nice! :)
luna

refero*fervens
09-17-2007, 08:10 AM
:lol: That was a wonderful blog :D so boyish and cute. I can't believe it's been a year since then - and a year since I signed up on MTF, come to think of it! Tokyo here we come.

Fergie
09-17-2007, 02:08 PM
Go Rogi! :bigclap:

SUKTUEN
09-17-2007, 02:56 PM
GO ROGER!!!!!!:bounce: :bounce:

Sunset of Age
09-17-2007, 04:49 PM
Best of luck, Rogelio! Defend that title! :yeah:

And pleasepleaseplease do that blog again, it was so cute... :smooch:

SUKTUEN
09-18-2007, 02:46 PM
IT Start in 1st Oct!!

Varya
09-23-2007, 04:33 AM
Hi!Everyone!:wavey:

Roger will appear Festival at previous night at Japan Open at September,30.
From Official site,practice with Kei Nisikori at that night.:D
A part of admission fee will contributes for UNICEF.:worship:

:) Have a nice sunday!:wavey:

SUKTUEN
09-23-2007, 02:57 PM
Varya will you go to watch Roger's match? :bounce: :bounce:

RogiFan88
09-24-2007, 02:46 PM
If any of you want to send Rogi a message, check out rfcom for the RE. Deadline this Thursday, September 27 by 5.00am EST. This is the first time we're doing the RE for TOKYO! ;)

http://www.rogerfederer.com/en/fanzone/forum/topicview.cfm?uNC=56053240&uPage=123&uTopicID=17735

SUKTUEN
09-24-2007, 02:51 PM
GO Roger!!!!!!!!:bounce: :bounce:

Daniel
09-24-2007, 03:05 PM
Good luck Roger :worship:

Varya
09-24-2007, 09:33 PM
Varya will you go to watch Roger's match? :bounce: :bounce:

:wavey:
I will go to tourny all week.:D
I am looking forward to watch his match!:bounce:

Sunset of Age
09-25-2007, 12:05 AM
:wavey:
I will go to tourny all week.:D
I am looking forward to watch his match!:bounce:

Wow, you're lucky! :D
Cheer for him in my name, too? ;)

RogiFan88
09-25-2007, 03:29 AM
Any TV channel or network broadcasting Tokyo in the Americas?? How about Fox?

glycina
09-25-2007, 04:06 AM
C'est vraiment dommage que je ne puisse aller a Tokyo
a cause de mon travail.
Bonne chance a toi, Rogi! Le titre, c'est a toi.

Il fait toujours assez chaud au Japon. On dit que
la saison est retardee d'un mois. J'espere que la
saison aura avance vite comme un express dans une semaine.

Une autre chose que j'apprehende, c'est comment le
media japonais va correspondre a la deuxieme visite
du numero un mondial du tennis.
Car, beaucoup de ses fans n'en etaient pas du tout
contents l'annee derniere. C'etait pas comme il faudrait
pour le numero un mondial. En effet, au Japon, le tennis
n'est pas un sport aussi populaire que le baseball. Mais,
dans les journaux televises(pas forcement sportifs), il est
arrive qu'on parlait de Sharapova sans parler du record de Roger.
Est-ce qu'on pense que les fans japonais ne savent
pas s'amuser du jeu du tennis?
D'ailleurs, au Japon, les journalistes sportifs
ou les commentateurs qui redigent souvent des articles
du tennis appartiennent a la generation Borg-Sampras-Agassi.
Et il me semble qu'ils cherchent a devaluer Roger:
<< Le nombre des titres du GS ne prouvent pas que
c'est un grand joueur>>;<< La duree du regne comme
le numero un mondial ne prouve pas que c'est un grand
joueur parce que Federer a eu de la chance de ne pas
etre entre en rivalite comme Sampras-Agassi>>, etc.
J'en suis vraiment d'autant plus decue de tout cela
que Roger avait de la sympathie pour le Japon et pour
ses fans japonais.
Je souhaite vraiment que ca va mieux cette annee!

soraya
09-25-2007, 04:51 AM
:wavey:
I will go to tourny all week.:D
I am looking forward to watch his match!:bounce:

have fun.

Rog1
09-25-2007, 09:50 AM
Go Roger!!


Linda

glycina
09-25-2007, 12:24 PM
I would like to ask a question to whoever has
welcomed Roger in one's own country.
Do you think that Roger has been dealt with by
the media properly as the world number one
still making history?

That's the point I'm talking about in my last post.
(My English is not so good, so I wrote in french).

In Japan, the sportswriters or the (ex-)commentators
who contribute frequently articles on tennis tourney
and blog in the website, belong to the generation
who had been devoted fans of Borg-Sampras-Agassi.
And many of them are apt to devaluate Roger:<< The number of
the GS titles, that's not the proof of the great player>>,
<< How many weeks he has been the world number one, that
doesn't matter because he was just lucky not to have
endured the rivalry as Sampras vs Agassi>>,<< Do we need
to invite him to Japan?>>, etc.
It appears that Roger was very interested in japanese
culture and that he liked japanese tennis fans very much
and all the more, many of his japanese fans were and still
are very disappointed at the actual situation of the japanese
media.
I have to add this: they can talk about Sharapova in the
TV news without making mention of the record of Roger. I wonder
if they think that the japanese tennis fans can't appreciate
the play itself and the great players.
I really hope that it's going better this year!
Rogi, bonne chance, le titre est a toi!

Eden
09-25-2007, 11:42 PM
I would like to ask a question to whoever has
welcomed Roger in one's own country.
Do you think that Roger has been dealt with by
the media properly as the world number one
still making history?


Do you mean if Roger gets the deserved appreciation from the media? I guess it is normal that the media draws comparisons to former players and their success. The German media coverage on Roger is really good and I have the impression that they appreciate his achievements and see it as something extraordinary. I don't remember that I have ever read anything really negative about him. The main questions in the media are of course whether he will win the French Open and/or break Petes amount of Grand Slam titles.

bokehlicious
09-26-2007, 02:40 PM
C'est vraiment dommage que je ne puisse aller a Tokyo
a cause de mon travail.
Bonne chance a toi, Rogi! Le titre, c'est a toi.

Il fait toujours assez chaud au Japon. On dit que
la saison est retardee d'un mois. J'espere que la
saison aura avance vite comme un express dans une semaine.

Une autre chose que j'apprehende, c'est comment le
media japonais va correspondre a la deuxieme visite
du numero un mondial du tennis.
Car, beaucoup de ses fans n'en etaient pas du tout
contents l'annee derniere. C'etait pas comme il faudrait
pour le numero un mondial. En effet, au Japon, le tennis
n'est pas un sport aussi populaire que le baseball. Mais,
dans les journaux televises(pas forcement sportifs), il est
arrive qu'on parlait de Sharapova sans parler du record de Roger.
Est-ce qu'on pense que les fans japonais ne savent
pas s'amuser du jeu du tennis?
D'ailleurs, au Japon, les journalistes sportifs
ou les commentateurs qui redigent souvent des articles
du tennis appartiennent a la generation Borg-Sampras-Agassi.
Et il me semble qu'ils cherchent a devaluer Roger:
<< Le nombre des titres du GS ne prouvent pas que
c'est un grand joueur>>;<< La duree du regne comme
le numero un mondial ne prouve pas que c'est un grand
joueur parce que Federer a eu de la chance de ne pas
etre entre en rivalite comme Sampras-Agassi>>, etc.
J'en suis vraiment d'autant plus decue de tout cela
que Roger avait de la sympathie pour le Japon et pour
ses fans japonais.
Je souhaite vraiment que ca va mieux cette annee!

:wavey:

I think Roger was happy with Japan and the Japanese last year in Tokyo ;) I agree with you though that a lot of People seem not to realize they're witnessing something they're not likely to see again in their lifetime, and don't treat Roger the way he'd deserve... But that is not only in Japan, that happens in almost every country (Switzerland included sometimes).

SUKTUEN
09-26-2007, 04:14 PM
:wavey:
I will go to tourny all week.:D
I am looking forward to watch his match!:bounce:

Oh it is so great!!!

please post some pic in here!!:worship: :worship:

when will Roger play?

Corey Feldman
09-26-2007, 10:28 PM
Hello all the great fed fans again :bigwave:

R.Federer, Mirkaland, JMPower, Mangoes, Suktuen, Eden, soraya, Mrs B, RogiFan, ClayBuster, Rogiman, Rone, Daniel, NYCtennisfan, Miss MOJO, Fergie! , all...

i missed out on his big wins here, but i was enjoying them. ;)

Fergie
09-27-2007, 03:36 AM
Welcome back Mikey! :hug:

Corey Feldman
09-27-2007, 03:44 AM
Fergie.... the best mod :hug:

nice SIG i see, Roger after he hits that amazing BH DTL shot to win the 2nd set tb from Nole

Like in Wayne's World movie... I'm not worthy of that shot :worship: :worship:

RogiFan88
09-27-2007, 04:00 AM
:wavey: Escude! Let's hope Captain Wasabi takes Tokyo once again!

Daniel
09-27-2007, 04:33 AM
Hello all the great fed fans again :bigwave:

R.Federer, Mirkaland, JMPower, Mangoes, Suktuen, Eden, soraya, Mrs B, RogiFan, ClayBuster, Rogiman, Rone, Daniel, NYCtennisfan, Miss MOJO, Fergie! , all...

i missed out on his big wins here, but i was enjoying them. ;)

Welcome back :wavey: :kiss: :hug:

Tournament Champions since 2000:

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2001 Lleyton Hewitt bt Michel Kratochvil 6-4, 6-2
2002 Kenneth Carlsen bt Magnus Norman 7-6(6), 6-3
2003 Rainer Schüttler bt Sébastien Grosjean 7-6(5), 6-2
2004 Jiří Novák bt Taylor Dent 5-7, 6-1, 6-3
2005 Wesley Moodie bt Mario Ancic 1-6, 7-6(7), 6-4
2006 Roger Federer bt Tim Henman 6-3, 6-3

Marek.
09-27-2007, 04:36 AM
Welcome back Escude :D
I barely started posting when you were banned so you probably don't remember me. My old username was that tennis guy.

I didn't realize that Tokyo was next week. Does the draw come out on Friday?

soraya
09-27-2007, 05:55 AM
Mikey, my sweet "warrior", good to have you back. I could say that without you we were bullied around MTF.

lunahielo
09-27-2007, 08:48 AM
Escude!
Nice to see you again!! :wavey:
I don't know why you were gone~~~but it's great to have you back. :)
luna

avocadoe
09-27-2007, 12:42 PM
Escude!
Nice to see you again!! :wavey:
I don't know why you were gone~~~but it's great to have you back. :)
luna

Me, too;)

glycina
09-27-2007, 01:21 PM
Hello, Escude! I remember your name.
And I asked you if your name came from
the name of the player who defeated Roger.

Here is the official site of AIG Tokyo Open( in English).

http://aigopen.jp/07/index.en.shtml

SUKTUEN
09-27-2007, 02:12 PM
Can't wait watch Roger play his wonderful tennis again!

shacklebolt
09-28-2007, 02:13 AM
Good luck, Roger!

Corey Feldman
09-28-2007, 02:24 AM
Mikey, my sweet "warrior", good to have you back. I could say that without you we were bullied around MTF.I know..
and it wont happen again with me here ;)

hello lunahielo :wavey: thanks all..

Hello, Escude! I remember your name.
And I asked you if your name came from
the name of the player who defeated RogerYes... Nicolas Escude was a big fave of mines, he and roger had some good battles :)

I cant wait for this tournament.... Roger can take a 200+ lead over Nadal with a win here and almost be sure of year end No1 (unless Nadal has a miraculous indoor swing)

just think, four years in a row at No1....
only 2 from another Sampras record.

MissMoJo
09-28-2007, 02:56 AM
Hello all the great fed fans again :bigwave:

R.Federer, Mirkaland, JMPower, Mangoes, Suktuen, Eden, soraya, Mrs B, RogiFan, ClayBuster, Rogiman, Rone, Daniel, NYCtennisfan, Miss MOJO, Fergie! , all...

i missed out on his big wins here, but i was enjoying them. ;)

:smooch:
Seems like just yesterday we were welcoming you back from that 3 month vaca :lol:

Corey Feldman
09-28-2007, 03:59 AM
I cant stay away from trouble it seems Jo :o

yanchr
09-28-2007, 04:25 AM
welcome back Mike :wavey:

Stevens Point
09-28-2007, 08:16 AM
Sad news:

Roger withdrew according to the tournament website in Japanese. The reason is fatigue. Doctor suggested him to rest at least 10 days.
link: http://aigopen.jp/07/index.shtml

I feel sorry for the Roger fans in Japan who I know.. They were really looking forward to seeing him play.


Here from Reuters article

TOKYO, Sept 28 (Reuters) - World number one Roger Federer has pulled out of next week's Japan Open due to fatigue.

Federer, who won the Tokyo title last year, said he had yet to recover after winning his fourth consecutive U.S. Open title and playing for Switzerland in the Davis Cup earlier this month.

"I am so disappointed that I have to withdraw from the Japan Open," Federer said in a statement.

"At this point I have still not physically recovered 100 percent from the U.S. Open and Davis Cup.

"Thus my doctor advised me that in an effort to avoid the risk of serious injury, I should not play a tournament for at least 10 days."

Federer's late pullout for the Oct. 1-7 Japan Open leaves world number eight David Ferrer as the tournament's highest seed following the Spaniard's late entry into the men's draw.

Wimbledon champion Venus Williams was also added to the women's draw on Friday.

yanchr
09-28-2007, 09:08 AM
Thanks SP for the news.

It should just be the fatigue and nothing serious. I feel sorry for Japanese fans...But I think it should be the right decision for Roger.

One side note. I shouldn't have said this, but sorry Swiss fans...I wish Roger never plays DC again. It is simply too physically and mentally demanding...and for nothing...pls pardon my selfishness.

Stevens Point
09-28-2007, 10:15 AM
This will bring up of course the issue "Roger and his playing Davis Cup". The fact is, Roger played three best of 5 set matches in three days for DC, which didn't count for the ranking points, after a hard fought North American hard court season. Switzerland lost the tie. Roger withdrew from Tokyo where he was the defending champ. He will lose points.

Good thing, though, is that he showed up in Prague and thrilled the crowd and fans, and of course he won his matches.

avocadoe
09-28-2007, 10:16 AM
yes, dc, did him in, didn't get proper rest after uso...sorry for his disappointment and his fans, but glad he is taking care of his sweet self...

nobama
09-28-2007, 10:50 AM
Crap Roger. He's only played ONE optional so far this year. YE #1 is still up in the air.

I hope now he will play (and do well in) Madrid, Basel and Paris and of course TMC......and then forget about those stupid exhos with Sampras. If he's bothered by fatigue no need to participate in those silly things. Although I'm sure he's getting $$$$$ just to show up.

nobama
09-28-2007, 11:17 AM
Thanks SP for the news.

It should just be the fatigue and nothing serious. I feel sorry for Japanese fans...But I think it should be the right decision for Roger.

One side note. I shouldn't have said this, but sorry Swiss fans...I wish Roger never plays DC again. It is simply too physically and mentally demanding...and for nothing...pls pardon my selfishness.
I don't understand the fatigue, unless it's the past 3 years just catching up with him...which is very possible. Roger has played ONE optional event this year. No Doha, no Halle, no Tokyo. He had an early exit in IW and Miami and said that after Miami he had 9 days holiday in the Caribbean. After the US Open he reportedly spent several days on holiday in Capri, Italy.

Obviously I'm not him and can't feel what he's feeling. But I honestly would feel sick inside if Roger lost the #1 ranking this year because he only played one optional. Especially with winning 3 slams. Of course Nadal doesn't appear to be 100% physically right now and these upcoming events are on his least favorite surface. So I can only hope Roger outperforms him the rest of the year.

Fergie
09-28-2007, 01:21 PM
:bigcry:

Rogi :hug:

rofe
09-28-2007, 03:11 PM
I don't understand the fatigue, unless it's the past 3 years just catching up with him...which is very possible. Roger has played ONE optional event this year. No Doha, no Halle, no Tokyo. He had an early exit in IW and Miami and said that after Miami he had 9 days holiday in the Caribbean. After the US Open he reportedly spent several days on holiday in Capri, Italy.

Obviously I'm not him and can't feel what he's feeling. But I honestly would feel sick inside if Roger lost the #1 ranking this year because he only played one optional. Especially with winning 3 slams. Of course Nadal doesn't appear to be 100% physically right now and these upcoming events are on his least favorite surface. So I can only hope Roger outperforms him the rest of the year.

He is taking quite a big risk with the #1 spot (IMO) by not playing Tokyo since he won it last year but it could be that he intends to play Madrid, Basel and Paris. If he indeed plays Paris then a withdrawal here makes more sense.

ExpectedWinner
09-28-2007, 03:30 PM
After he lost to Djoker in Montreal, he said he 's not going to chase points. He was behind TFA in the race then.

SUKTUEN
09-28-2007, 03:46 PM
Roger, take a good rest, we know you are tired~~:hug: :hug:

RogiFan88
09-28-2007, 04:30 PM
Rogi w not withdraw fr a tournament where he defending champion if it were not absolutely necessary... do you think he wants to gift TFA 250 ranking pts??

SUKTUEN
09-28-2007, 04:51 PM
he will lost some points ~~~~

ExpectedWinner
09-28-2007, 04:55 PM
Rogi w not withdraw fr a tournament where he defending champion if it were not absolutely necessary... do you think he wants to gift TFA 250 ranking pts??

He needs to be fully rested before visiting pigsty quarters.

nobama
09-28-2007, 05:36 PM
Rogi w not withdraw fr a tournament where he defending champion if it were not absolutely necessary... do you think he wants to gift TFA 250 ranking pts??
Not unless remaining #1 is no loger a top priority. Or he's just taking the risk that Nadal won't perform well the rest of the year. If he intends to play Paris then I think withdrawing from Tokyo was smart. Especially not knowing who's going to show up in Paris.

Corey Feldman
09-28-2007, 05:42 PM
He's been dropping his optionals all year...

motivation slump slump slump

Yes, he's won the ones that matter again this season, but in the long run.... he may suffer, only MM event he played - Dubai - he player rubbish all week.

and i dont just mean ranking points issues, but he is always rusty after breaks, i forseen it all and said to you all in Dubai this year.... his rusty form might be because of all the long breaks, and sure enough.... he blew out early in Indian Wells and Miami like some kind of journeyman a few weeks later :o

so watch out for the early rounds in Madrid ppl, you heard it here first.

and even playing badly in Basel he is easily in the semis or final, in otherwords..... CYA Paris :wavey:

Pioline will be furious.

Rogieva
09-28-2007, 05:43 PM
Roger :sad:

Rest of and be back for Madrid.

Rogieva
09-28-2007, 05:43 PM
Roger :sad:

Rest of and be back for Madrid...

Corey Feldman
09-28-2007, 05:53 PM
If he intends to play Paris then I think withdrawing from Tokyo was smart. Especially not knowing who's going to show up in ParisNope..
they key to Paris is the week before, Basel - his hometown event.

when he's played well in Basel, he just wont travel to Paris.

his poorest results in Basel where 2002 and 2003 and those were the only 2 years he went to Paris and won matches.

lunahielo
09-29-2007, 01:00 AM
It is almost 8 PM here, Friday, and I just now heard of this.
Pobrecito......... :bigcry:

I hope he rests and heals well.
I don't think he would take the chance of losing #1 unless it was absolutely necessary.

God speed, Roger~~
:hug:
luna

soraya
09-29-2007, 04:34 AM
I feel sorry for the Japanese fans and crowd but it is not easy to play a weekend of davis cup and travel all the way to Japan, not to mention the jet lag. It is a known fact that once Roger commits to a tournament he expects to be in the final, and one week in between to get ready for an event like Madrid where again he is the defending champion is pretty hard. Roger has different priorities and he needs to conserve energy for higher goals. This news does not come as a surprise though I would have liked to see him play and perform well. At the end he knows better and I can just hope I will see him in two weeks time. I'd rather see him lose 250 points than 500 in Madrid.

NYCtennisfan
09-29-2007, 04:15 PM
That's too bad. I can't believe he will finish the year playing only two optionals (maybe only one optional) and still have a shot at #1. I was hoping he would come close to putting #1 away next week, but looks like he will have to do it in Madrid/Basel/Paris.

elessar
09-29-2007, 05:11 PM
That's too bad. I can't believe he will finish the year playing only two optionals (maybe only one optional) and still have a shot at #1. I was hoping he would come close to putting #1 away next week, but looks like he will have to do it in Madrid/Basel/Paris.

He's got more than a shot ! Considering the fact that Nadal isn't playing this week either I'd be extremly surprised if he didn't finish nr1 for the fourth straight year. I don't doubt that Nadal can do well in Madrid but Basel and Paris are the worst possible surfaces for him he won't pick up enough point there.
Unless Roger gets injured of course... which would be quite ironical :p

SUKTUEN
09-29-2007, 05:45 PM
it will be a little bit boring in this week:shrug:

Corey Feldman
09-29-2007, 06:19 PM
what is worse...
that everything he did last week in Cze was all worth nothing, and now its cost him another tournament participation.

remember 08 is an Olympics year, better all get used to him playing about 1 tournament a month now.

Agassi-Sampras style - when they hit their 30's.

ExpectedWinner
09-29-2007, 06:51 PM
remember 08 is an Olympics year, better all get used to him playing about 1 tournament a month now.


You reaction to this is like you have been scheduled to have sex once per month. ;)
When was the last time he had a serious injury? When did he miss a GS because of an injury? When did he retire from a match? It seems he knows his limitations/his body needs and his schedule reflects it.

Corey Feldman
09-29-2007, 07:11 PM
When was the last time he had a serious injury?Every time he practised for the indoor season... remember in 04 and 05, before Basel.

thankfully wasnt long term, lets hope nothing like that happens again.

i think he is fearful of going from one surface to another at times, alot of players are the same... Murray blamed that for injuries.

skipping Japan probably is good for him, but 2 Optionals a year sucks by anyone standards.

since when did he become Nalbandian ? :lol:

ExpectedWinner
09-29-2007, 07:43 PM
Every time he practised for the indoor season... remember in 04 and 05, before Basel.thankfully wasnt long term, lets hope nothing like that happens again.

i think he is fearful of going from one surface to another at times, alot of players are the same... Murray blamed that for injuries.

skipping Japan probably is good for him, but 2 Optionals a year sucks by anyone standards.
since when did he become Nalbandian ? :lol:

05 looked like a freaky accident. My feeling is that Fedrobot needs a 1-2 weeks break between the tournaments and a long vacation after each Slam. Otherwise he can't function. Last year he worked for Connors' record. Once he got it, his motivation for chasing points has greatly diminished (this is speculation, of course).

nobama
09-29-2007, 09:57 PM
He's got more than a shot ! Considering the fact that Nadal isn't playing this week either I'd be extremly surprised if he didn't finish nr1 for the fourth straight year. I don't doubt that Nadal can do well in Madrid but Basel and Paris are the worst possible surfaces for him he won't pick up enough point there.
Unless Roger gets injured of course... which would be quite ironical :pI don't think Nadal is playing anymore optionals this year is he?

Johnny Groove
09-29-2007, 09:59 PM
I don't think Nadal is playing anymore optionals this year is he?

Sorry to butt in here :p

No he isnt, (hopefully :rolleyes: ) but he is playing the SA MM clay swing next year

nobama
09-29-2007, 10:06 PM
It sucks that Roger's won three slams, made the finals of the 4th, won 2 masters series, made the finals of 2 others and #1 ranking is still undecided. But knowing that YE #1 is up for grabs I can't believe Roger would skip Tokyo for no reason or because he's becoming some lazy sod who only wants to play once a month.

Johnny Groove
09-29-2007, 10:13 PM
I dont think so mirkaland.

Roger's got #1 sewed up for this year, I wouldnt worry about it. Once Nadal lost at USO, Roger got it :shrug:

Federer would need a semi-meltdown (by his standards) and Nadal playing fantastic on indoors for him to lose #1

Ive done the calculations already.

Fed would need to lose SF of Madrid, skip Basel, SF of Paris, and lose F in TMC

Nadal would need to win Madrid, win Paris, and go undefeated in Shanghai.

Not gonna happen :shrug:

nobama
09-29-2007, 10:39 PM
I dont think so mirkaland.

Roger's got #1 sewed up for this year, I wouldnt worry about it. Once Nadal lost at USO, Roger got it :shrug:I hope hope you're right. But I don't think you'll have to wait much longer for Nadal to get #1...I think he has a good shot early next year.

nobama
09-29-2007, 10:51 PM
I think NYC has commented on this before, but in Roger's career he has never missed playing in a grand slam. Or retired from a match, and he's played 650+ matches so far. I'd rather have Roger play less and (hopefully) not be dealing with injuries so he's able to continue to play all the slams and most of the masters events.

Johnny Groove
09-29-2007, 10:53 PM
I hope hope you're right. But I don't think you'll have to wait much longer for Nadal to get #1...I think he has a good shot early next year.

I agree. If hes gonna have any shot, its gotta be before IW 08. After that, Fed will start to get his IW/MIA points back, and I cant see Nadal being able to counter that.

nobama
09-30-2007, 12:30 AM
I agree. If hes gonna have any shot, its gotta be before IW 08. After that, Fed will start to get his IW/MIA points back, and I cant see Nadal being able to counter that.
Djokovic could make things interesting though. He doesn't have a lot of points to defend the rest of the year, should do well at TMC. For me it will be interesting to see what happens first - Nadal overtaking Fed at #1 or Djokovic knocking Nadal out of the #2 spot.

Corey Feldman
09-30-2007, 12:41 AM
The no.1 stuff is nice...

but sometimes ppl think that is all that matters, it shouldnt.
"as long as he's no1 he can skip this that whatever..." good for him

i worry about his form coming back when he takes a month off ... 5 times a season?

he's blown of the biggest DC match (WG RND 1) yet plays a relagation match - then he plays more Exho's in a season than optionals lol.

my rants arnt so much about skipping Japan altho that sucked because it really came about because of a meaningless DC match (its not that big a deal when he has 4 big events in 5 weeks coming up) but its the whole season to me.

of course, he won 3 of the 4 big ones and should end No.1.... so he can say 'whatever' to anyone he wishes.

lets see where schedule's like this get him in future years.

Sunset of Age
09-30-2007, 06:24 AM
So sad to read Roger had to retire from Tokyo - especially for all of his devoted fans out there! :sad: :sad: :sad: :hug:

I dont think so mirkaland.

Roger's got #1 sewed up for this year, I wouldnt worry about it. Once Nadal lost at USO, Roger got it :shrug:

Federer would need a semi-meltdown (by his standards) and Nadal playing fantastic on indoors for him to lose #1


We'll never know what happens until it indeed happens. I agree with you Jonathan that Roger has great chances to keep the #1 position this year, though I wouldn't exactly call it 'sewed up'... we don't know how well Raf will recover from his injury/ies, either. If he does, he has a good chance as well - but let's at least hope he'll be able to keep Djoko at #3! :D

he's blown of the biggest DC match (WG RND 1) yet plays a relagation match - then he plays more Exho's in a season than optionals lol.


I fully agree, I'd rather not see him play that ridiculous amounts of exho's - even more, THREE against the same player!
Why, Rogi, WHY??? :mad: :confused: :mad:

nobama
09-30-2007, 07:04 AM
I fully agree, I'd rather not see him play that ridiculous amounts of exho's - even more, THREE against the same player!
Why, Rogi, WHY??? :mad: :confused: :mad:$$$$$$$

Or Levy
09-30-2007, 11:40 AM
I firmly believe that Djoko can make the AO final instead of Rafa, and then we can see him catching up with Rafa's number 2 spot, especially if Djoko does well in the YEC.

I just pray Rafa enters the clay season as 2, otherwise it would just play havoc in the draw.

refero*fervens
09-30-2007, 12:39 PM
The Tokyo withdrawal surprised me, and the fact he's only playing two optionals then (looks worse with the exhibitions against Sampras, lol) but just hoping he comes back well and rested. Might end up playing Paris after all, be gearing up for that. I doubt the few optionals thing is a trend we'll be seeing continue next year. No 1 will p-rob-ably be okay for 07...And if this little bit of caution helps in the long run, great. :)

SUKTUEN
09-30-2007, 02:42 PM
boring week........:yawn: :yawn:

Corey Feldman
09-30-2007, 04:21 PM
and think of where his 2 options where this year - Dubai and Basel, both of his homes/bases am i right in saying?

show a bit of motivation and go to some other places some time Roger :o

a No.1 should give just a bit more support to some of the lesser tournaments if he can.

Corey Feldman
09-30-2007, 04:26 PM
$$$$$$$How much do you think him and Sampras will get for these ??

World Beater
09-30-2007, 04:41 PM
How much do you think him and Sampras will get for these ??

a healthy six figures for each. 100-200 grand for one match...thats nice chunk of change

Corey Feldman
09-30-2007, 05:23 PM
ppl will say they plays these exho's for the money (like mirka above)

but why? half a mill is big cash to anyone, but its a drop in the ocean to fed/sampy i would imagine....

i think Fed wants to 'enhance' his greatness aura by winning, even if it is an old and retired Pete, and of course Pete will be thinking 'i could serve and volley myself through him and strike a question mark over his GOAT claims, if i beat him!'

PamV
09-30-2007, 07:08 PM
People are talking as if Roger has the year ending #1 spot all sewn up but I don't think so. Doesn't he need to defend Madrid and win TMC.....or else do well in both Madrid and Paris plus try to win TMC?

I think Roger would be in better shape at TMC if he could win Madrid or Paris because then it won't make the #1 spot such a close race and besides it would give him the match practice he will need. If the #1 spot ends up being decided at TMC then that would be extra pressure on Roger. It's better if he tries to increase his lead going into it.

As for next year anything can happen, but I don't think Roger will get another flukey situation with IW and Miami. Will the AO courts be changed to fast hardcourt starting in 2008? If that were the case it would help Roger all the more.

Rogiman
09-30-2007, 07:41 PM
:armed: Fuck tournaments, let's win an exho!


:smash:

nobama
09-30-2007, 09:19 PM
I have been working hard with my team, especially my physiotherapist, in order to make it in time for the tournament in Tokyo. I am sorry to say that at this point my body is not ready yet and I need to rest for these extra days in order to avoid the risk of serious injury.

I'd rather have Roger skip Tokyo, save himself so he's 100% fit and can go all out in Madrid Basel and Paris. Hopefully next year Tokyo won't even be on his schedule.

Corey Feldman
09-30-2007, 09:25 PM
He's known as Fedexho to me now.


People are talking as if Roger has the year ending #1 spot all sewn up but I don't think so. Doesn't he need to defend Madrid and win TMC.....or else do well in both Madrid and Paris plus try to win TMC?

I think Roger would be in better shape at TMC if he could win Madrid or Paris because then it won't make the #1 spot such a close race and besides it would give him the match practice he will need. If the #1 spot ends up being decided at TMC then that would be extra pressure on Roger. It's better if he tries to increase his lead going into it.If you go by the race this year then he is 150+ up... so he's looking ok for No1 unless Nadal wins probably 2 of the big indoor events from the 3 he will play, and even then Fed could hold him off with good results.

if he doesnt end the year with more than a 150 lead then Nadal could be within striking distance early next year, even the AO if fedexho had a early loss and Nadal went deep, or more horrific - won it.

Rogiman
09-30-2007, 10:18 PM
I'd rather have Roger skip Tokyo, save himself so he's 100% fit and can go all out in Madrid Basel and Paris. Hopefully next year Tokyo won't even be on his schedule.I strongly disagree.

Money, fame and history aside, it's the optionals where he can really get in touch with his fans, those who aren't living in big US or European cities and can't afford to travel overseas in order to watch him play.
It's also a way to give back to the game that has made him rich and famous.

The day he doesn't include optionals in his schedule is the day he'll officially be too full of himself.

Corey Feldman
09-30-2007, 10:37 PM
Even Sampras, Agassi and Hewitt at No.1 played a few $300,000 events somewhere...

Roger is getting further away from that as every year goes by.

motivation? far too overly paranoid about his body? (cant play more than 2 events in a row and the idea of even 2 in a row he hates, see's Davis Cup weekends as running a marathon then climbing a mountain or something)

the DC thing is amazing, if keeping SUI in the world group was such a huge goal to him then why not play Spain and get the job dont right then.... and im sure he has no intention of playing in 2008 DC anyway :silly:

at least he had made sure he has peaked for the 4 big ones and that is the main thing.

i really just dont like this attitude of 'well im no1 and have a ranking lead so i wont play anything unless its manditory' ..
will come back and bite him someday.

nobama
09-30-2007, 11:37 PM
I strongly disagree.

Money, fame and history aside, it's the optionals where he can really get in touch with his fans, those who aren't living in big US or European cities and can't afford to travel overseas in order to watch him play.
It's also a way to give back to the game that has made him rich and famous.

The day he doesn't include optionals in his schedule is the day he'll officially be too full of himself.
Where in my post did I say optionals? I've never said he shouldn't play optionals. Just maybe not Tokyo at this time of year.

With #1 ranking not yet decided I can't see Roger skipping Tokyo because he's to lazy or full of himself or whatever. He had #1 locked up last year after USO but still flew to Toyko and played there. So why would he skip it this year when #1 is still up for grabs?

NYCtennisfan
10-01-2007, 02:48 AM
I strongly disagree.

Money, fame and history aside, it's the optionals where he can really get in touch with his fans, those who aren't living in big US or European cities and can't afford to travel overseas in order to watch him play.
It's also a way to give back to the game that has made him rich and famous.

The day he doesn't include optionals in his schedule is the day he'll officially be too full of himself.

Although I would like to see Federer play more than 1 or 2 optionals a season, this is way too harsh on the guy. He's in a unique positon and I think he's going about things the best way he can.

NYCtennisfan
10-01-2007, 02:51 AM
He's known as Fedexho to me now.


If you go by the race this year then he is 150+ up... so he's looking ok for No1 unless Nadal wins probably 2 of the big indoor events from the 3 he will play, and even then Fed could hold him off with good results.

if he doesnt end the year with more than a 150 lead then Nadal could be within striking distance early next year, even the AO if fedexho had a early loss and Nadal went deep, or more horrific - won it.

Yes, he needs to be up by more than 450 points (entry ranking) going into the AO. If not, Nadal could take over #1 and it wouldn't be in Fed's power to stop it i.e. Fed could win AO and Nadal could get to the finals and Nadal would take over #1. Realistically, a lead of 1000-1200 points going into the AO would be a nice cushion to drag out the #1 ranking as long as possible.

lsy
10-01-2007, 02:57 AM
Rogi truly has some of the most demanding fans.

As much as they will deny it, they simply wants him to do it all and statisfy them in all ways.


Although I would like to see Federer play more than 1 or 2 optionals a season, this is way too harsh on the guy. He's in a unique positon and I think he's going about things the best way he can.

Finally...thank you NYC.

ExpectedWinner
10-01-2007, 03:10 AM
I strongly disagree.

Money, fame and history aside, it's the optionals where he can really get in touch with his fans, those who aren't living in big US or European cities and can't afford to travel overseas in order to watch him play.
It's also a way to give back to the game that has made him rich and famous.

The day he doesn't include optionals in his schedule is the day he'll officially be too full of himself.

I see you're using your own picture for the avatar. Nice to meet you. :hatoff:

World Beater
10-01-2007, 03:16 AM
I see you're using your own picture for the avatar. Nice to meet you. :hatoff:


sorry rogiman

:lol:

World Beater
10-01-2007, 03:23 AM
I strongly disagree.

Money, fame and history aside, it's the optionals where he can really get in touch with his fans, those who aren't living in big US or European cities and can't afford to travel overseas in order to watch him play.
It's also a way to give back to the game that has made him rich and famous.

The day he doesn't include optionals in his schedule is the day he'll officially be too full of himself.

Federer is a nice, polite guy who seems to appreciate his fans. But i dont think he really cares for them that much. Lets be reasonable, here. Most of us are fans because of his game. Most of us wouldnt care for the guy if he wasnt so great at tennis.

He's certainly better than courier, sampras, becker when it comes to his fans and that's admirable.But the day federer starts to talk about giving back to the game just by showing up and winning tennis matches at tournaments and pocketing the cash like agassi is the day federer becomes insincere/ not genuine.

i will agree with you that these exhos seems stupid to me. But federer seems to me to be a naive person. Almost like he thinks he's doing the world a favor by displaying his skills against sampras. Federer is such a terrible exho player. He plays at half speed and doesnt run. He looks so ordinary.

He said sth like "its a pity that the fans only got to see us play once". Its similar to the situation at wimbledon, where he brought his man bag, and thought it was stylish :tape:

Either that or he's money hungry like screamarova.

ExpectedWinner
10-01-2007, 03:52 AM
i really just dont like this attitude of 'well im no1 and have a ranking lead[/B] so i wont play anything unless its manditory' ..
will come back and bite him someday.

What are you talking about? After W Nadal had a healthy lead in the race. Not only Fed had to perform in his robot mode but he also needed some help from TFA (early losses). It was logical to take a WC for a MM tournament in USA but he didn't. What does it tell you? To be honest, what else did you expect after 2006? Do I have to remind he did not spend 2003-2005 on the couch watching soup operas. His results in 2004-2007 are enough for two very good tennis carreers. But no, people demand more action.:rolleyes:
Is it so hard to understand that without their health any player quickly becomes a former player. If he gets seriously injured at this age, it'll be very hard to return to the top 10. If he suffers from mental fatique, he'll lose early. Would you prefer him to become Kafelnikov-grab appearance money and lose 4-5 1st rounds in a row?

Even Sampras, Agassi and Hewitt at No.1 played a few $300,000 events somewhere...



Well, before 1999 Agassi was hardly an example of how someone should handle a career.

And where is Spartan Hewitt these days? Lost to Schuettler? Pardon me, but this is below the level of the Dead Sea , on the Israel-Jordan border.

And yeah, Pete did not like to travel to Canada, so he played MM Indianapolis tournament instead. Of course, he never missed Queens. He used to arrive there fully rested after clay off season

ExpectedWinner
10-01-2007, 04:22 AM
Federer is such a terrible exho player. He plays at half speed and doesnt run. He looks so ordinary.



Then why are people so concerned that these exhibitions will kill him?

I'd never spend 1c for any exhibition, but some people do. So, he will get free $$$, stop being jealous ( I'm not talking about you, WB).
Where did people get the idea that playing exhibitions is comparable (physically and mentally) to playing ATP tournaments?

yanchr
10-01-2007, 05:19 AM
I strongly disagree.

Money, fame and history aside, it's the optionals where he can really get in touch with his fans, those who aren't living in big US or European cities and can't afford to travel overseas in order to watch him play.
It's also a way to give back to the game that has made him rich and famous.

The day he doesn't include optionals in his schedule is the day he'll officially be too full of himself.
I don't get that logic. He can and is really getting in touch with fans in any tournament he plays I think. How does it matter if it's optional or mandatory? Not everybody is lucky enough to live in a city where one or more big tournaments are played...I'm really sorry for those fans but that's how it is for years and years and years already :confused:

Even for money's matter, he should've preferred to play optionals where he will get free money - appearance fee which is not less than the prize money he gets from winning a TMS - for playing like one match if he wants to...

I think by playing fewer tournaments now he is trying to make sure he is physically capable to be around for as many years as he wants, and that's exactly what we fans want, isn't it...At least I myself would like to watch him play tennis for as long as possible, even if I know he is only full of himself (which I don't believe is the case).

That said though, I don't like that he is playing all those meaningless exhibitions, esp during the season.

yanchr
10-01-2007, 05:31 AM
People are talking as if Roger has the year ending #1 spot all sewn up but I don't think so. Doesn't he need to defend Madrid and win TMC.....or else do well in both Madrid and Paris plus try to win TMC?
Take a look at the race now. He is 159 ahead. He's not locked No.1 up yet, but personally I think it's highly unlikely that he will lose it this year. He has to do an abysmal indoor season and TMC while Nadal has to do a superb one. Not impossible, but very doubtful.

I remember after Wimbledon when he was behind by like 135 or sth, we were all talking about that he should add an optional before Montreal if he wants to end up No.1. It turned out that he is right to just stick to his schedule and focus on the big things and now he is leading by 159. Maybe we still don't have enough faith in the man.

lsy
10-01-2007, 07:02 AM
What are you talking about? After W Nadal had a healthy lead in the race. Not only Fed had to perform in his robot mode but he also needed some help from TFA (early losses). It was logical to take a WC for a MM tournament in USA but he didn't. What does it tell you? To be honest, what else did you expect after 2006? Do I have to remind he did not spend 2003-2005 on the couch watching soup operas. His results in 2004-2007 are enough for two very good tennis carreers. But no, people demand more action.:rolleyes:
Is it so hard to understand that without their health any player quickly becomes a former player. If he gets seriously injured at this age, it'll be very hard to return to the top 10. If he suffers from mental fatique, he'll lose early. Would you prefer him to become Kafelnikov-grab appearance money and lose 4-5 1st rounds in a row?



Then why are people so concerned that these exhibitions will kill him?

EXACTLY.

and again...THANK YOU EW!


Money, fame and history aside, it's the optionals where he can really get in touch with his fans, those who aren't living in big US or European cities and can't afford to travel overseas in order to watch him play.
It's also a way to give back to the game that has made him rich and famous.

The day he doesn't include optionals in his schedule is the day he'll officially be too full of himself.

Meaningless exhibitions are also another great way he can get in touch with his fans, considering they are always held in cities where there aren't any tournaments and gave those fans a rare opportunity to watch him play live. Do you actually appreciate his appearance in these exhibitions or you think it's just another way to show he's money hungry. Pretty sure you think the latter.

As yanchr said, you don't think these optionals paid him big bucks just to appear? So exactly how does that justify your bullcrap logic :rolleyes:

It's ridiculours seeinig how he missed one tournament, and he's basically too full of himself/money hungry/don't care about his fans.

Basically we just want him to be that Rogi in 2004 FOREVER. That ultraman who can do it all and win it all anytime anywhere :rolleyes:

I usually enjoy the diversify opinions around here but sorry to be harsh sometimes, I think you guys should go be fans of yourself instead :wavey:

nobama
10-01-2007, 11:11 AM
That said though, I don't like that he is playing all those meaningless exhibitions, esp during the season.The three exhos against Sampras this year are after the season has ended. This year he's played one exho during the season, last year I think he also played one - it was in Switzerland during the clay court season and the proceeds benefited his charity.

nobama
10-01-2007, 11:27 AM
Last year Roger (among others) got shit thrown at him for not playing in Paris. Then the argument was all about the appearance fees players get to show up at MM events and how something needed to be done about it, and the tour needed to do more to keep players from skipping Masters events. Now this year the outcry is players withdrawing from MM events and how unprofessional and unfair it is to the fans.

OK which is it?!? Do we want another 2005 where TMC is a joke because players are injured and withdraw? Or another 2006 where Paris is full of top player withdrawls? With the top players skipping some of these smaller events hopefully they'll all be able to play Madrid, Paris and TMC and we'll get to see some great matches.

SUKTUEN
10-01-2007, 02:10 PM
is time to change the name of the thread!!

Corey Feldman
10-01-2007, 02:57 PM
yeah yeah yeah, a whole more heap of :bs: from the true Fedtards (the fed fans no one likes) that give the rest a bad name - expected winner, Isy and Yanchr) in last page or so...

they cannot read or comprehend anything said about Federer unless its 24 hour a day ass kissing.

no healthy or unfed obsessed discussion or unbiased points about Federer is allowed in 'their world'.

i dont know why i try and defend any of you in GM.

ExpectedWinner
10-01-2007, 03:47 PM
yeah yeah yeah, a whole more heap of :bs: from the true Fedtards (the fed fans no one likes) that give the rest a bad name - expected winner, Isy and Yanchr) in last page or so...

they cannot read or comprehend anything said about Federer unless its 24 hour a day ass kissing.

no healthy or unfed obsessed discussion or unbiased points about Federer is allowed in 'their world'.


:haha: If you have time to produce 30000+ posts, you should have time to educate youself more about posters here.

One thing is certain- people can't stand different opinions. I was told to shut up many times when I dared criticize Fed's fitness and passive play. Now I supposedly masturbate 24 hours on Fed's poster because I understand why he's playing reduced schedule this year.

Corey Feldman
10-01-2007, 03:56 PM
Ah so you can show negative views ...
but act like an idiot when me and Rogiman do the same just because you dont agree
what a moron.

I was told to shut up many times when I dared criticize Fed's fitness and passive playEducate yourself with you and you're pathetic 1700 posts then.

bokehlicious
10-01-2007, 04:07 PM
Rogi truly has some of the most demanding fans.

As much as they will deny it, they simply wants him to do it all and statisfy them in all ways.



Finally...thank you NYC.

I'm sure Fed is fine with that (he's sooo full of himself :rolleyes: ) :) if some "fans" are pissed off everytime he dares play "average" tennis (by his standards) or dares to skip some MM events when he feels tired, then that's their loss, not Roger's...

ExpectedWinner
10-01-2007, 04:08 PM
but act like an idiot when me and Rogiman do the same just because you dont agree
what a moron.

Educate yourself with you and you're pathetic 1700 posts then.

RFK's style of communicating doesn't amuse me. Come up with something more original. I respect your views but I disagree with some of them. I thought my response to you was civil, esp by MTF standards, lol.

As for Rogiman, I haven't heard from him. I doubt that he was offended with me having a little fun at his expense.

ExpectedWinner
10-01-2007, 04:41 PM
Take a look at the race now. He is 159 ahead. He's not locked No.1 up yet, but personally I think it's highly unlikely that he will lose it this year.

While I understand why he plays less these days, I have to admit that he plays a risky schedule. We all know that he can be rusty at the beginning of a tournament and draws at TMSes can be tough/tricky. Anything can happen in the best of 3. Madrid is crucial. TFA won this tournament in the past. Fed can't afford to lose early. Fed's early loss in IW was the best drug for TFA. If Fed loses early and TFA wins, the lead in the race will be cut to 50-60 points. So, the YE ranking is far away from being "sewed".

Eden
10-01-2007, 06:31 PM
Lets trust in Roger and his team that they made the right decision that he skipped the tournament. According to his statement on RF.com he decided to withdraw in agreement with his medical staff.

I'm sorry for the Japanese fans who don't get to see him play this year, but Rogers health should be priority for us all as we want to have him around for a long time to come. He is experienced enough to know what to do and I really think he doesn't have to owe us anything this year after winning 3 Grand Slams titles. What more can we ask for?

rofe
10-02-2007, 03:04 AM
While I understand why he plays less these days, I have to admit that he plays a risky schedule. We all know that he can be rusty at the beginning of a tournament and draws at TMSes can be tough/tricky. Anything can happen in the best of 3. Madrid is crucial. TFA won this tournament in the past. Fed can't afford to lose early. Fed's early loss in IW was the best drug for TFA. If Fed loses early and TFA wins, the lead in the race will be cut to 50-60 points. So, the YE ranking is far away from being "sewed".

Quite frankly this 3-set format and a bye thrown in is what I am worried about. In my opinion, the introduction of the bye has left Roger with much less practice as he tries to go deep in a TMS (and plays someone who is much more match tough) and part of the reason that he has struggled with his game this year. He hasn't supplemented his schedule to make up for the lack of actual match practice.

This very topic came up after his loss in IW and Miami and he will probably struggle to find his rhythm in the Madrid TMS as well. This is a problem unique to a player like Roger that relies so much on timing. I am not going to comment anymore on Tokyo but I think he may need to supplement his schedule out of necessity (as in early losses in TMSes again) next year if he really wants to hold on to the #1 spot.

World Beater
10-02-2007, 04:00 AM
Then why are people so concerned that these exhibitions will kill him?

I'd never spend 1c for any exhibition, but some people do. So, he will get free $$$, stop being jealous ( I'm not talking about you, WB).
Where did people get the idea that playing exhibitions is comparable (physically and mentally) to playing ATP tournaments?

I totally agree. I would never even waste my time to watch an exhibition on TV.

My issue with his exhibitions aren't that it will "kill him". It does tell people he is lacking some professionalism though.

If he's injured or fatigued, then he should rest. Go and take a vacation on the beach of mauritius. But why travel, get jetlagged and play half-ass? I just don't see it as productive for his career. If he wants to do it for fun, fine. But he's in a unique position and has many opportunities to make history by winning some special tournaments, and by winning others that will help his #1 ranking. If you look at the time of these exhibitions in his schedule, then it makes his decision even more :retard:

lsy
10-02-2007, 06:04 AM
Just because I can't find much to complain about that man for what he had achieved past few years not to mention yet again winning 3 slams a year, and don't spend 24 hrs/day nitpicking anything he did that I don't like, I'm the ass kissing fan girl.

I personally can’t find much to complain about this guy coz I’d lost count of how many times I’d doubts about some decisions he made or think it’s about time he slows down, he just came out and proved me wrong with his results, time after time. For all that he had achieved, fame/money/praises, I haven't heard any quotes from his peers of how he had become so full of himself/arrogant or disrespect the game/fans of all these yrs.

But I suppose in contrast, he must have let some of you down so many times that’s why you have so much doubts in him so easily.

I dont know why i try and defend any of you in GM.

Ask yourself. I’m not sure how many of us here actually care what was being said of us in GM, coz if we do I’m quite sure we’re all pretty capable of defending ourselves.

When I need to please that bunch of sour grapes in GM by nitpicking every single little fault Rogi does just to show them yeah I'm not some ass kissing Fedtard but an objective Fed fan…that’s when I really am a pathetic Fedtard :rolleyes:


I totally agree. I would never even waste my time to watch an exhibition on TV.

Tell that to many of tennis fans who will not get any chance to watch him play live unless they folk up more money and make special travel arrangements overseas coz there aren't any tournaments in their cities/countries.

Trust me we all know it's just an exhibition but still it's like an opportunity fell from the sky out of nowhere to give us a chance to watch THE man play live tennis right where we are.

So yeah putting Rogi’s schedule aside, many tennis fans myself included are still extremely excited and looking forward to it. It's really not that difficult to understand.

nobama
10-02-2007, 11:28 AM
Lets trust in Roger and his team that they made the right decision that he skipped the tournament. According to his statement on RF.com he decided to withdraw in agreement with his medical staff.

I'm sorry for the Japanese fans who don't get to see him play this year, but Rogers health should be priority for us all as we want to have him around for a long time to come. He is experienced enough to know what to do and I really think he doesn't have to owe us anything this year after winning 3 Grand Slams titles. What more can we ask for?I guess I'm going to be the ultimate 'fedtard' and have faith that he knows what he's doing.

After Wimbledon the same stuff came up about how it wouldn't have killed him to play an optional before Montreal, Nadal's will not have another summer like he did last year, etc. Then Roger does about the best he can making the finals of Montreal and winning Cincy and USO. Seems like whenever we count him out or expect the worse he does the opposite. :lol:

yanchr
10-02-2007, 02:00 PM
yeah yeah yeah, a whole more heap of :bs: from the true Fedtards (the fed fans no one likes) that give the rest a bad name - expected winner, Isy and Yanchr) in last page or so...

they cannot read or comprehend anything said about Federer unless its 24 hour a day ass kissing.

no healthy or unfed obsessed discussion or unbiased points about Federer is allowed in 'their world'.

i dont know why i try and defend any of you in GM.
Seems to me it's you who are Fed-obsessed...No Fed to entertain you this week, sad and miss him already?

So any opinion which is Roger-favored is unhealthy, Fed-obsessed and biased? I don't know why you even like him...he's such a hopeless guy who only deserves to be criticized...

If I like reading the ass-kissings, I would not come here. His official website forum is a far better place to enjoy those.

And why do you even care you will have a bad name as a Fed fan in GM? You are a fan not for yourself, but to please those in the stupid GM? Oh come on, there are better things than that in life...or maybe not for you?

It's funny...nobody even asked you to defend any of us. And there is really nothing to defend. Everybody is expressing his/her own opinion here, politely. I doubt Rogiman will feel offended too. It is you who come up with a condescending attitude and words, as if you are the only one who speaks with sense. Oh, reminds me of RFK who is life-long committed to save Roger fans...btw, you are one of them...

Puschkin
10-02-2007, 02:41 PM
is time to change the name of the thread!!

Reading what is going on here, it is time to close the thread. ;)

Corey Feldman
10-02-2007, 05:35 PM
Seems to me it's you who are Fed-obsessed...No Fed to entertain you this week, sad and miss him already?Well there are other players in action i like this week... Murray and others.

of course, liking another player other than Federer in this planet.... is a complete mystery of the brain to ppl like you :)

:o:o

and if you think im unfair on Federer, you should see my views on Henman and Murray at times as well, yes even when they are playing and winning.

but ppl like you are morons, you understand nothing.... now i know why ppl vote Fedtards the worst fans - you.

Corey Feldman
10-02-2007, 05:43 PM
When I need to please that bunch of sour grapes in GM by nitpicking every single little fault Rogi does just to show them yeah I'm not some ass kissing Fedtard but an objective Fed fan…that’s when I really am a pathetic Fedtard :rolleyes:In GM i am having a laugh, then you mad tards come in and start taking everything so serious, unbelievable :o

half of you are an absolute joke, i read this place during Wimbledon and every second post was "Nadal this" "Nadal that" .... "who will take out Nadal for roger" "how lucky is he :rolleyes:" "pathetic soderling" "pathetic youzhny" "we want him to lose ONLY because of the ranking"
yeah right :lol:
idiots, yes... you all had faith in Federer winning that final, yeaaaaaaah sure you did
:rolls:

honestly, go back and read......... this is the fed forum and for months non-stop ppl spoke more about Nadal then they did Federer, pathetic tards.

World Beater
10-02-2007, 07:03 PM
Tell that to many of tennis fans who will not get any chance to watch him play live unless they folk up more money and make special travel arrangements overseas coz there aren't any tournaments in their cities/countries.

Trust me we all know it's just an exhibition but still it's like an opportunity fell from the sky out of nowhere to give us a chance to watch THE man play live tennis right where we are.

So yeah putting Rogi’s schedule aside, many tennis fans myself included are still extremely excited and looking forward to it. It's really not that difficult to understand.

The difference between myself and other "fans" is that i watch the "tennis", not the "man" playing tennis. So i appreciate roger just for that, his tennis. If he isn't bringing it, then I won't watch. I'm a fan of roger's tennis, not a fan of roger, the tennis celebrity.

I understand many people want to watch federer in these exhibitions because they are a fan of Roger, the tennis star. Some people would pay $$$ for federer to hit regulation forehands and backhands and to walk around the court when i can see the same thing at an amateurs event. I just don't care for it.

rofe
10-02-2007, 09:02 PM
:lol: going by what this thread is turning into - Madrid can't come soon enough.

Just remember, Fed doesn't care two hoots about what you think about his game in this forum - good or bad; so no need to get catty folks. Let sleeping cats lie. :cat:

Corey Feldman
10-02-2007, 09:54 PM
Let sleeping cats lie.Tell some of them to shut up and stop trying to be smart with their comments at me in GM then :rolleyes:

lsy
10-03-2007, 06:06 AM
The difference between myself and other "fans" is that i watch the "tennis", not the "man" playing tennis. So i appreciate roger just for that, his tennis. If he isn't bringing it, then I won't watch. I'm a fan of roger's tennis, not a fan of roger, the tennis celebrity.

I understand many people want to watch federer in these exhibitions because they are a fan of Roger, the tennis star. Some people would pay $$$ for federer to hit regulation forehands and backhands and to walk around the court when i can see the same thing at an amateurs event. I just don't care for it.

How judgemental.

I became Rogi fan in Wimby 2003 during his match v Andy. I have no idea who he was/where was he from/what was his ranking absolultely no idea. I only knew Andy this and that from all the media hype. I also thought he was an ugly old man. Didn’t take long for me to be completely bought over the moment he started swinging his racquet and remembered thinking “oh man tennis could be played this way???”.

So I’m not sure why would I be categorise under the Roger’s tennis celebrity fan group.

You won’t pay to watch him play exhibition matches, yes we get it and I understood why but there’s no need to judge other fans who would or calling them a celebrity fan instead of tennis fan.

I’d watched him play on tv for over 4 yrs, out of nowhere he’s coming to play in my city. There’s not even one doubt in me the moment I get the news I’m going to watch him play live. Perharps out of the 10 regular fh/bh he hit, he might hit just one of those I had been watching on tv for thousands time that made me go “AWWWWWOOHHHH”. That’s more than worth it.

yanchr
10-03-2007, 07:00 AM
Well there are other players in action i like this week... Murray and others.

of course, liking another player other than Federer in this planet.... is a complete mystery of the brain to ppl like you :)

:o:o

and if you think im unfair on Federer, you should see my views on Henman and Murray at times as well, yes even when they are playing and winning.

but ppl like you are morons, you understand nothing.... now i know why ppl vote Fedtards the worst fans - you.
I like Murray very much, even if he has fans like you...I still like him as a player.

As I said before, I don't mind people having different opinions in a forum, and that's what I've been enjoying here. But where did I use the words like "stupid", "moron", etc etc, which appear endlessly in your posts? So I only get your point...anybody who dares to disagree with you is stupid, is moron blah blah...

Yes, on this topic I think you are unfair to Federer. But before you labelled me as some stupid fangirl who knows nothing, at least you should also check out my views and posts about other topics for example his game, and yes, even when he is winning. You asked me to see your views about other players before I make a judgement as well. Why didn't you do that first? At least I didn't label you right after you expressed your view.

I can also say, I know why people say Fedtards are the worst fans-you. But I don't mind. Fed fans can be the worst group of fans, while I can still be a happy one as long as I see beautiful tennis.

I don't know why I even spend time arguing with you here, cuz the withdrawal itself is not even a big issue which I don't even care much as long as he takes good care of himself and I see positive things when he comes out playing again.

So I'm done here. Enjoy yourself :wavey:

Minnie
10-03-2007, 02:10 PM
I don't post here hardly ever now but read thru threads from time to time. So just wanted to say how much I agree with yanchr and isy. I'm no fan of exos but if the opportunity came along to see Federer Sampras play in London, I'd try for tickets as I never saw Sampras live in his heyday. I've seen Federer live so for those who've never seen him because he doesn't play tournaments in their city, I say "go for it". After all, this is someone (me) who travelled up to Liverpool to see Bjorn Borg play on grass for the first time since 1981 because I never saw him play live. The fact that he didn't play due to injury makes me twice as crazy! And I intend doing the same next year as he's promised to return. I'm a fan of "tennis" too - but occasionally there are players you would move heaven + earth to see play live under any circumstances .... what's wrong with that? Each to their own.

Nocko
10-03-2007, 02:18 PM
I miss Captain Wsabi. :sad:

I'm not happy to see such arguments esp. on 'Tokyo' thread.:bs:

SUKTUEN
10-03-2007, 02:42 PM
Roger, I miss you~~~ > . <

RogiFan88
10-03-2007, 04:58 PM
I miss Captain Wsabi. :sad:

I'm not happy to see such arguments esp. on 'Tokyo' thread.:bs:

Me neither... they s take their arguments elsewhere... perhaps start a Battle of the Posters thread or something... :p

World Beater
10-03-2007, 11:27 PM
How judgemental.

I became Rogi fan in Wimby 2003 during his match v Andy. I have no idea who he was/where was he from/what was his ranking absolultely no idea. I only knew Andy this and that from all the media hype. I also thought he was an ugly old man. Didn’t take long for me to be completely bought over the moment he started swinging his racquet and remembered thinking “oh man tennis could be played this way???”.

So I’m not sure why would I be categorise under the Roger’s tennis celebrity fan group.

You won’t pay to watch him play exhibition matches, yes we get it and I understood why but there’s no need to judge other fans who would or calling them a celebrity fan instead of tennis fan.

I’d watched him play on tv for over 4 yrs, out of nowhere he’s coming to play in my city. There’s not even one doubt in me the moment I get the news I’m going to watch him play live. Perharps out of the 10 regular fh/bh he hit, he might hit just one of those I had been watching on tv for thousands time that made me go “AWWWWWOOHHHH”. That’s more than worth it.

:lol:

where did i say you were part of the celebrity "fan" group? Did i state it somewhere in my post? I just made my point about not wanting to pay for exhibition matches, and you responded. :wavey:

i also made a point about "fans" of roger versus someone like myself who may appreciate roger for different reasons. I never intended for all the people in this forum to fall under "fans" or for all of tennis fans who appreciate roger. Thats the reason i quoted fans

Some fans would watch federer do anything, let alone play tennis. :lol: And i bolded "some" just in case you come and accuse me of being judgemental of everyone.

If you find roger's exhibition matches amusing, more power to you :shrug: if you want to watch THE MAN hit some fh's and bh's, good for you. :) But i have much more important things to do and there is plenty of competetive federer throughout the year for me to witness.

Its so ridiculous for people to get worked up about stuff like this. I stated my opinion. Take it or leave it. No need to get ones panties in a twist, and leave the forum because someone said sth that is not agreable.

Corey Feldman
10-04-2007, 12:37 AM
Some ppl smoking some good crack thesedays eh World Beater

:lol:

lsy
10-05-2007, 03:19 AM
:lol:

where did i say you were part of the celebrity "fan" group? Did i state it somewhere in my post? I just made my point about not wanting to pay for exhibition matches, and you responded. :wavey:

You said you think people who would pay to watch exhibitions are coz they want to see the tennis star/celebrity and not the tennis. I would pay to watch exhibitions, and that makes me and many fans fall under that according to your analysis that's where I have problem with your generalisations and responded.


If you find roger's exhibition matches amusing, more power to you :shrug: if you want to watch THE MAN hit some fh's and bh's, good for you. :) But i have much more important things to do and there is plenty of competetive federer throughout the year for me to witness.

Its so ridiculous for people to get worked up about stuff like this. I stated my opinion. Take it or leave it. No need to get ones panties in a twist, and leave the forum because someone said sth that is not agreable.

Now who's getting all worked up?

I only have problem with your generalisations in this particular case which I rather judgemental hence my response. I don't have a problem with you as a poster as I'd seen many reasonable posts throughout the years. Just so you know.

World Beater
10-05-2007, 05:05 PM
You said you think people who would pay to watch exhibitions are coz they want to see the tennis star/celebrity and not the tennis. I would pay to watch exhibitions, and that makes me and many fans fall under that according to your analysis that's where I have problem with your generalisations and responded.
.

it seems to me you dont understand that i didnt use generalizations.

go read my post and you will see i said "i understand SOME posters would want to pay $$ etc..."

i just repeated the verbage you use when you said "THE MAN" and applied to "SOME" fans...haha...really what does that mean?


Now who's getting all worked up?
I only have problem with your generalisations in this particular case which I rather judgemental hence my response. I don't have a problem with you as a poster as I'd seen many reasonable posts throughout the years. Just so you know.

:cuckoo:

im not accusing people of being judgemental or saying that i will leave the forum like some other posters(not necc you). i've had to repeat things many times because it doesnt seem to be clear for some people.

i never had a problem with some in this forum who want to watch federer in these exhibitions, and stated so.

i even clarified my definition of "fans" to you, and you still come with BS as if i meant everyone who is a fan of roger's tennis is a "fan".:o

im sorry you have a problem with my post even though i clearly used appropriate minimizers. you just seem to have done selective reading in that post.

if it makes you happy, go ahead and think that i am judgemental. I won't do the same though. I like to judge a post, and not a poster;)

im sorry for my rant. It's hard to engage in discussion when i feel like im being misunderstood. So i have had to keep repeating what was obivous to me.

World Beater
10-05-2007, 05:14 PM
Some ppl smoking some good crack thesedays eh World Beater

:lol:

forgive me for i have sinned. I hope the lord jesu3fed comes to save me.:sad: :confused:

Corey Feldman
10-05-2007, 05:48 PM
yun have sinned

dont even joke about Federer around some of these extremists.

Rogiman
10-05-2007, 10:33 PM
Who cares about exhos? :retard:

I wouldn't bother watching any of those even if it was played in my backyard.

RogiFan88
10-07-2007, 04:48 AM
Ferru d Richou 61 62 in less than an hour! He's the Spanish Ninja successor to the Swiss Ninja aka Captain Wasabi!

I'm happy for David -- he deserves this title -- doing so well on the hc this year!!

Domo arigato, David!

Good night!

Sunset of Age
10-07-2007, 06:09 AM
David, a worthy follow-up to Captain Wasabi, indeed. :worship:

So I read Roger isn't coming back for Tokyo next year. No good news for the Asian fans...