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attendance problem at China Open because of cost?

El Legenda
09-12-2007, 06:07 PM
i was looking at their VIP package, for 24 people, it costs $80,000 :eek: that comes out to $3333 per person, you can get a VIP Package for US open for that money. tickets for the final are $80-$100 you can get a all sessions pass for $450 for Cincy AMS

Farenhajt
09-12-2007, 06:25 PM
I'm generally a bit suspicious about tennis coming strong in China. Sure, there will always be enough sponsors for a big, heavily marketable annual event such as Shanghai, but I somehow don't think tennis should be overly appealing to Chinese - they're crazy about table tennis, and lawn tennis is about the same thing with significant imperfections: it's bigger, slower, and helluvalot costlier. Moreover, Asians are absolute all-time force in table tennis, whilst they are virtually non-existent (with honorable exceptions) in lawn tennis, which should also be a factor.

TankingTheSet
09-12-2007, 06:44 PM
Strange and overly aggressive/optimistic marketing strategies are very common in China, maybe this is an example.

JustJames
09-12-2007, 06:58 PM
Very similar to the situation that occurred at the recent Cricket world cup in the West Indies. Organisers see what MEDCs are charging people to watch sports and think that they can charge the same regardless of the fact that their countries GDP is considerably lower. It makes no sense and completely ruins the atmosphere [entire stadiums were almost empty at the Cricket worldcup.]

Jaap
09-12-2007, 07:32 PM
Cost and also because there is boring players such as Davydenko and Ljubo playing there.

Frederick16
09-12-2007, 07:38 PM
i thought is was forbidden for communists to make a gain.. they should share all the tickets with all the hard working labourman! lets share all the capital :rolleyes:

rofe
09-12-2007, 07:47 PM
i thought is was forbidden for communists to make a gain.. they should share all the tickets with all the hard working labourman! lets share all the capital :rolleyes:

China stopped being communist a long time ago.

RagingLamb
09-12-2007, 09:25 PM
i thought is was forbidden for communists to make a gain.. they should share all the tickets with all the hard working labourman! lets share all the capital :rolleyes:

LOL :yeah:

jazar
09-12-2007, 09:27 PM
attendance problem. obviously no one gives a shit anymore

nikita13
09-12-2007, 10:02 PM
i thought is was forbidden for communists to make a gain.. they should share all the tickets with all the hard working labourman! lets share all the capital :rolleyes:

:yeah:

njnetswill
09-13-2007, 01:12 AM
The problem is also that besides the semis and final, tennis tournaments happen during the workday. Few everyday Chinese can afford to miss work to go watch sports.

The costs are ridiculous too, as the tickets aren't adjusted in accordance to local salaries. Who can afford to shovel out hundreds just for a one day session? :confused:

Stensland
09-13-2007, 04:00 AM
The problem is also that besides the semis and final, tennis tournaments happen during the workday. Few everyday Chinese can afford to miss work to go watch sports.



you'd think that in a city with a higher population than metro new york (!!) they would find some people who'd be interested even during the day.

i was stunned when i watched the gonzalez-match yesterday. the stadium was quite empty (and they didn't play during the day).

El Legenda
09-13-2007, 04:03 AM
same thing happened in Doha early this year, they even had free tickets :lol: but the final between Ljubo and Murray was packed.

Stensland
09-13-2007, 04:14 AM
same thing happened in Doha early this year, they even had free tickets :lol: but the final between Ljubo and Murray was packed.

yeah but doha's different. the asian games in doha this year were desastrous concerning attendane, but that's because they just have 2 kinds of people living there: billionaires and poor labourers from india and pakistan. there's no people like "us", who're just normal (i guess) and like watching sports. they either have too much money or no money at all.

whereas beijing's a) WAY more populated than doha and b) boasts already quite a middle class (i guess).

GlennMirnyi
09-13-2007, 04:32 AM
i thought is was forbidden for communists to make a gain.. they should share all the tickets with all the hard working labourman! lets share all the capital :rolleyes:

Time to check out the news mate. Communism as we know is long gone in China. ;)

gomeny
09-13-2007, 04:37 AM
rich cats don't give fuck about tennis in China!

Stensland
09-13-2007, 04:44 AM
rich cats don't give fuck about tennis in China!

so what do they give a fuck about? what's their sport? table tennis tickets are very cheap, they don't like sumo like the japanese...

what kind of sport do they like? :confused:

RickDaStick
09-13-2007, 04:50 AM
so what do they give a fuck about? what's their sport? table tennis tickets are very cheap, they don't like sumo like the japanese...

what kind of sport do they like? :confused:

I dont know but when i was watching CCTV waiting for real tennis the other day, they had badminton on and the arena was packed

rmb6687
09-13-2007, 05:56 AM
so they like all raquety type sports (table tennis/badminton) but not lawn tennis? Wack!

dwynn10
09-13-2007, 10:11 AM
so they like all raquety type sports (table tennis/badminton) but not lawn tennis? Wack!

Well, badminton and ping-pong typically don't require much power but instead rely on agility and hand-eye coordination, something many Asians can do. Also, you don't need to have expensive equipment or facilities to play these games, so they're more available to the masses.

The new generation in Asia is bigger and stronger now and have the means to pursue more traditionally Western sports, such as tennis. For a while, it looked like the Chinese women players were coming on strong, but then they seemed to have faded away. Of course, other than Srichapan and Hyung Taik Lee, we don't hear much of Asian male players, despite Michael Chang's pioneering role. Are there any promising ones either in the US or elsewhere?

Doggy
09-13-2007, 12:33 PM
China stopped being communist a long time ago.

Not in the minds of the elderly population there. They still can't believe that businesses are trying to maximize profits. LOL!!! Ohhhh dear, they are so naive.

mickymouse
09-13-2007, 12:49 PM
Tennis isn't popular in China. They prefer badminton, table tennis ie. sports in which their countrymen rule.;)

chrison
09-13-2007, 01:54 PM
The crowd was almost uniformly college age in China Open. It turns out that this was not by chance. In order to fill the stands, students at the nearby postal university had been given free tickets and the day off and encouraged to attend the games. :help:

barbadosan
09-13-2007, 02:00 PM
Very similar to the situation that occurred at the recent Cricket world cup in the West Indies. Organisers see what MEDCs are charging people to watch sports and think that they can charge the same regardless of the fact that their countries GDP is considerably lower. It makes no sense and completely ruins the atmosphere [entire stadiums were almost empty at the Cricket worldcup.]

Very, very true

trixtah
09-13-2007, 02:51 PM
The cost? It's because no one wants to die from the pollution. Also because China is bonkers...

haha have you heard that Beijing 08 athletes are recommended to house in a bordering country and fly in on the last day?

mulan
09-13-2007, 04:00 PM
I am from China so I hope I can say a bit about this.

1. Tennis is actually reasonably popular in China. You can get a feel when you watch tennis master cup (unfortunatly tickets are very expensive as well). Also there are Chinese websites and forums about tennis that can compete with this one well. So many people are following it day in day out.

2. Not many Chinese male tennis players are in the view right now. Fans following the big stars. As far as I know Mr. Federer is popular number 1. I think it is because his personality suits well with Asian.

3. The most popular sport in China is Soccer. Though Chinese national team is no good so far. Of course people love table tennis and bedminton because they are good at them. Just like basketball for US and cricket for India.

4. China is mostly market driven these days. The rich poor difference actually is leading the chart which I do not consider as totally right. People buy houses and apartments using morgage at young age. Only the housing market is quite unreasonably flying high.

5. Pollution is a problem in China. But considering 1 billion people do survive and have a competible life span as people anywhere, one can relax about the air will kill people. You can see I'm a little mad about some of the comments I saw above. I do not understand why some people develop negative feeling towards China while they do not have much base.

6. China is actually a lovely place and is developing quick. Do not imagine life in China being different. If you get a chance please do visit, you will see for yourself. Of course you may not have money to watch a tennis match here. Trust me, go for Cincinnati is a better idea.

valexie03
09-13-2007, 04:04 PM
i thought is was forbidden for communists to make a gain.. they should share all the tickets with all the hard working labourman! lets share all the capital :rolleyes:

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The crowd was almost uniformly college age in China Open. It turns out that this was not by chance. In order to fill the stands, students at the nearby postal university had been given free tickets and the day off and encouraged to attend the games. :help:

Several tournaments around the world give free tickets. The sponsors don't like to see empty seats, especially on tv. But look at the BCR Open Romania also played this week: the stadiums are empty :shrug:

Frederick16
09-13-2007, 06:43 PM
Time to check out the news mate. Communism as we know is long gone in China. ;)

i will believe that when they stop putting people in camps and have free elections..

Richard_from_Cal
09-13-2007, 09:25 PM
Time to check out the news mate. Communism as we know is long gone in China. ;)
Warrior had a nice thread about how the Tibetans were being oppressed out of existence, by the Capitalists.

---(goes off to look for it...) :wavey: