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Be honest....why do you hate Novak?

Aloimeh
09-11-2007, 10:03 PM
OK, we know why some people like Novak Djokovic: humor, playing style, career on the rise, ethnic affiliation, etc....

But what are the specific reasons why the haters hate him?

Please be honest and answer the first reason that comes to mind, not the "right" one.

Bilbo
09-11-2007, 10:10 PM
Cheating/Gamesmanship
His (arrogant) statements and press conferences
His family/coach/supporters
His media/celebrity savy (Met Opera, DeNiro, Sharapova)

l_mac
09-11-2007, 10:12 PM
How many can I choose?

And to that list can I add - "Fake, media whore" and "He smells"?

K90
09-11-2007, 10:13 PM
Cheating/Gamesmanship
His (arrogant) statements and press conferences
His impressions of other players
His family/coach/supporters
His media/celebrity savy (Met Opera, DeNiro, Sharapova)

ezekiel
09-11-2007, 10:13 PM
oh well I guess all the haters get more attention, just what they need :rolleyes:

bokehlicious
09-11-2007, 10:14 PM
Cheating/Gamesmanship
His (arrogant) statements and press conferences
His impressions of other players

mashamaniac
09-11-2007, 10:16 PM
[X]Cheating/Gamesmanship
[X]His (arrogant) statements and press conferences
[X]His impressions of other players
[X]His family/coach/supporters
[X]His media/celebrity savy (Met Opera, DeNiro, Sharapova)

i absolutely agree with bilbo and ICX!!! you two said my words!

Snowwy
09-11-2007, 10:16 PM
I dont really dislike him but I hate his ball bouncing...

K90
09-11-2007, 10:17 PM
ok and just a sidenote here, i wouldnt say i hate him, but i dislike him:p

Aloimeh
09-11-2007, 10:19 PM
oh well I guess all the haters get more attention, just what they need :rolleyes:

I'm definitely not a hater. Just trying to figure out where the hatred is coming from, although I suspect it isn't entirely objective, people may not be totally honest with themselves, much less with others.

Psichogauchovna
09-11-2007, 10:22 PM
:retard:

rofe
09-11-2007, 10:22 PM
I don't know him enough to dislike him (hate is too strong a word) but I don't like his gamesmanship.

Psichogauchovna
09-11-2007, 10:24 PM
I dont really dislike him but I hate his ball bouncing...

its annoying yeah :p

natasha_nana
09-11-2007, 10:24 PM
I dont hate him...in fact I like him. He's a breath of fresh air with a lot of potential.

But what I certainly dont like is his ego...waaaay too full of himself for his own good...and for no good reason at the moment.

Not really impressed with his family/corner either...I mean coordinated shirts? standing ovation at EVERY point won? I mean seriously get over it.
They have a lot to be proud of, no doubt... but it is really starting to border on gross and obvious attention seeking. :rolleyes:

Sunset of Age
09-11-2007, 10:25 PM
Come on... hate?

No way. There may be things I don't like too much about him (gamesmanship, to name something), but he's still young and I expect him to be able to improve his behaviour on certain points.
I think he deserves a break, really I do.

mashamaniac
09-11-2007, 10:25 PM
i guess most of hatreds come from his parents' side...such an arrogant family!!:devil:

fmolinari2005
09-11-2007, 10:29 PM
Wasnt this user that started yesterday that thread (that got deleted) about Fed fans being Nole haters?!

guga2120
09-11-2007, 10:30 PM
Well his threat to Mr.Perfect, obviously.

l_mac
09-11-2007, 10:31 PM
I'm definitely not a hater. Just trying to figure out where the hatred is coming from, although I suspect it isn't entirely objective, people may not be totally honest with themselves, much less with others.

I didn't pay Novak any attention until the FO in 2006, and I haven't liked him since then. So I suppose my initial dislike stemmed from his injury dramas/press comments. This year the fact that he so obviously believes his own hype have bumped him to the top of my nono list. I have wondered occassionally if my dislike is also fuelled by the fact that Nole's having the sort of year that I wanted Andy Murray to have :sad:. Honestly, though, the fact that I think he's a total arse stands alone, regardless of my feelings toward other players.

l_mac
09-11-2007, 10:33 PM
Come on... hate?

I think he deserves a break, really I do.

Me too. Nothing serious .. pinkie maybe.




For morons - JOKING I DO NOT WISH INJURY ON ANYONE.

Sunset of Age
09-11-2007, 10:34 PM
I have wondered occassionally if my dislike is also fuelled by the fact that Nole's having the sort of year that I wanted Andy Murray to have :sad:.

I can relate to that, yeah. Would rather have seen Murray make such a career leap, but well... :sad:

natasha_nana
09-11-2007, 10:34 PM
Wasnt this user that started yesterday that thread (that got deleted) about Fed fans being Nole haters?!

I remember that thread...
you might be right...:eek:

Allure
09-11-2007, 10:34 PM
A) Arrogant
B) Gamesmanship
C) Delusional Parents (Dad: Fed scared of Djokovic Mom: Djokovic is better than Federer)

Sunset of Age
09-11-2007, 10:35 PM
Me too. Nothing serious .. pinkie maybe.

For morons - JOKING I DO NOT WISH INJURY ON ANYONE.

:haha: :haha: :haha: Good one...

R.Federer
09-11-2007, 10:39 PM
Me too. Nothing serious .. pinkie maybe.



:rolls:

Farenhajt
09-11-2007, 10:39 PM
I have wondered occassionally if my dislike is also fuelled by the fact that Nole's having the sort of year that I wanted Andy Murray to have :sad:.

Ahhhh, that Miami 6-1 6-0 gem... Deep inside the reasons are always simple ;)

l_mac
09-11-2007, 10:43 PM
Ahhhh, that Miami 6-1 6-0 gem... Deep inside the reasons are always simple ;)


Yeah but, as I stated earlier, the dislike started long before the 2007 season. :)

nisha
09-11-2007, 10:47 PM
:laugh: people have only started to dislike him since he started to show potential to match the big 2. i noticed early this year their were more lovers than haters. it happened to fed and to nadal they have their haters becoz they are too good for the rest.

i doubt marat would be as loved by many if he won more often, but many like him cos he isnt a threat and forget the moody arrogance (i love that regardless)

it comes down to jealousy and envy why haters start!

Farenhajt
09-11-2007, 11:05 PM
So, there are two main categories of reasons:

1. Novak too blatantly appears to be a real deal, or

2. Some other player - hater's personal pet - doesn't appear to be a real deal any longer.

As for excessive bouncing: what's the REAL issue there? Bouncing by itself? Or the fact that Novak scores up an ace or service winner in more than 90% of the cases after he finds his focus? (We don't want break points saved or service games won when we root for the other player, don't we? :)) Moreover, as we watch the bouncing we already know what will happen, even before the shot is made, and THAT is REAAAALY annoying ("F*ck, he's gonna do it again...") :)

l_mac
09-11-2007, 11:10 PM
So, there are two main categories of reasons:

1. Novak too blatantly appears to be a real deal, or

2. Some other player - hater's personal pet - doesn't appear to be a real deal any longer.

:lol: So basically, there was no point in anyone answering this poll because you'll ignore the answers and reach your own conclusions? :lol:

adynadal
09-11-2007, 11:12 PM
Hahahahaha...i really don`t know what to think or say about this thread...
maybe all i should say or better do is to open a new one "Be honest...why do you love Novak?" but i`m afraid that i won`t be able to write all the reasons in one poll...At least tomorrow i can try!:p
Good night,ppl!:D

Farenhajt
09-11-2007, 11:15 PM
:lol: So basically, there was no point in anyone answering this poll because you'll ignore the answers and reach your own conclusions? :lol:

Well, you exercise your prerogative to consider him a cheater, and I exercise my prerogative to consider your "reasons" a load of crap :)

(Oh yes, that "he smells" bit was particularly successful ;))

l_mac
09-11-2007, 11:18 PM
Well, you exercise your prerogative to consider him a cheater, and I exercise my prerogative to consider your "reasons" a load of crap :)

I don't think I've ever called him a cheater, and I don't consider him one. His gamesmanship is the least of my issues with him :)

DhammaTiger
09-11-2007, 11:18 PM
I don't hate him, but I don't like him because of:
1. arrogance/ ego/ smugness
2. disrespect for other players, i.e impression or parody of other players.
3. playing style.
4. gamesmanship.

bokehlicious
09-11-2007, 11:20 PM
Well, you exercise your prerogative to consider him a cheater, and I exercise my prerogative to consider your "reasons" a load of crap :)

(Oh yes, that "he smells" bit was particularly successful ;))

:yeah: Jealousy (of fear or whatever) is the reason why people dislike him...


:retard:

3strokes
09-11-2007, 11:29 PM
I dont really dislike him but I hate his ball bouncing...

Almost "ditto".
There hasn't been a player whom I "hated"; some I disliked. (And, as an aside, his ball-bouncing is obviously a gamesmanship move meant to rub his opponent-s- the wrong way. If it were a true ritual, his bounce count would not vary (not by less than a dozen anyway.)

What I don't like about Djokovic:
His temper tantrums and his opening of arms (What? Is he telling the crowds that he has been victimized?) when, after he's challenged a call, the playback goes against him (or his challenge). OK, So your ball was OUT, or your opponent's was IN. How does that make YOU a victim? Your opponent played a better point or YOU played a worse point. Stop with the theatrics and get on with it.

barbadosan
09-11-2007, 11:31 PM
Question might have been better phrased "What do you dislike about Djokovic. I see no reason to hate any tennis player, and generally I quite like him, but I really do dislike his gamesmanship

barbadosan
09-11-2007, 11:34 PM
:laugh: people have only started to dislike him since he started to show potential to match the big 2. i noticed early this year their were more lovers than haters. it happened to fed and to nadal they have their haters becoz they are too good for the rest.

i doubt marat would be as loved by many if he won more often, but many like him cos he isnt a threat and forget the moody arrogance (i love that regardless)

it comes down to jealousy and envy why haters start!

He beat my fav Federer in the AO semi-final and I still rooted for him in the finals.

Andi-M
09-11-2007, 11:35 PM
I hate him cos he's soo damn exciting for the game of tennis! and well...HOT!

Jade Fox
09-11-2007, 11:38 PM
I am far from hating Novak. In fact the very things people find annoying about him, I find endearing.

But it's a true sign that he's made it that he now has detractors. Congrats Nole!:bigclap:

Farenhajt
09-11-2007, 11:57 PM
Almost "ditto".
There hasn't been a player whom I "hated"; some I disliked. (And, as an aside, his ball-bouncing is obviously a gamesmanship move meant to rub his opponent-s- the wrong way. If it were a true ritual, his bounce count would not vary (not by less than a dozen anyway.)

What I don't like about Djokovic:
His temper tantrums and his opening of arms (What? Is he telling the crowds that he has been victimized?) when, after he's challenged a call, the playback goes against him (or his challenge). OK, So your ball was OUT, or your opponent's was IN. How does that make YOU a victim? Your opponent played a better point or YOU played a worse point. Stop with the theatrics and get on with it.


1. Bouncing: crap again. Every time he exceeds some 15-16 bounces he's in for an excellent serve (an ace or a winner). Perhaps you would find it less outrageous if he were ordering the racquet strings for some 40 seconds? Here's the news, baby: everyone has his way of concentrating.

2. On-court expressions: Yes, I get it now. You must be prefering types like Mrs. Blake, James's mother - expresionless dead cods of British or some similar type. Well, de gustibus... :)

dmit424
09-12-2007, 01:49 AM
How about:

"He looks like he has the goods to end Roger-domination at 3/4 of the Slams."


Check, haters.


By the way, what's with the thing about him "looking" arrogant or something. At least he doesn't try to be an on-court model like Serena, Venus, Sharapova, and Federer.

Art&Soul
09-12-2007, 02:52 AM
Arrogant things

Doggy
09-12-2007, 03:07 AM
I don't hate Novak but the more MTF hates him the more I'll like him. :devil:

Swiped from Craig Hickman's blog:

Personally, I don't think Novak's ball bouncing constitutes as "most classless" when we've got Serena's sore loser postmatch interview floating around out there.

What are you guys talking about! The ball bouncing is pure genius! Yesterday, in a match, I was down break point and I bounced the ball 46 times! My opponent just could not believed it and it really threw off her concentration and I beat her ass to the ground after that.

dwynn10
09-12-2007, 03:35 AM
1. Bouncing: crap again. Every time he exceeds some 15-16 bounces he's in for an excellent serve (an ace or a winner). Perhaps you would find it less outrageous if he were ordering the racquet strings for some 40 seconds? Here's the news, baby: everyone has his way of concentrating.

I don't hate Djokovic - like him, in fact - but suspect that he's guilty of gamesmanship in his match against Juan Monaco. One can only hope that he'll outgrow this type of behavior as he gets older - he's too good to have to resort to it. Well, I also find it annoying that the more he bounces the ball, the more likely he's gonna hit an ace or service winner. There must be a connection there: either ball-bouncing makes him concentrate more or it takes away his opponents' concentration. Either way, it doesn't seem fair to his opponents.

Aloimeh
09-12-2007, 03:42 AM
I don't hate Djokovic - like him, in fact - but suspect that he's guilty of gamesmanship in his match against Juan Monaco. One can only hope that he'll outgrow this type of behavior as he gets older - he's too good to have to resort to it. Well, I also find it annoying that the more he bounces the ball, the more likely he's gonna hit an ace or service winner. There must be a connection there: either ball-bouncing makes hime concentrate more or it takes away his opponents' concentration. Either way, it doesn't seem fair to his opponents.

I get the injury timeouts, I still don't understand all the rage about the ball bouncing, it really does look to me like he is concentrating. If he is using it as a stalling tactic, I think it would be to get more time to think up his next move than to distract the opponent.

Alex999
09-12-2007, 03:46 AM
He wasn't bouncing the ball in the final. He lost key points (7 sp). He shouldn't have change his game in the final. I give him a credit for trying not to annoy people, but that decision was very bad.

fmolinari2005
09-12-2007, 03:48 AM
Aloimeh: dont you have better thing to do other than creating controversy on this forum?! Take a look on how ridiculous your poll is. Bringing up ethnicity is a shameful manouver. Werent you. yesterday, that started that pathetic thread about a psychotic Fed fan?! And now this?! A thread asking why someone would hate a player?! Get real ...

NinaNina19
09-12-2007, 03:50 AM
I love Nole but seriously stop bouncing the ball so much and I don't like his faking injuries.

Aloimeh
09-12-2007, 03:53 AM
Aloimeh: dont you have better thing to do other than creating controversy on this forum?! Take a look on how ridiculous your poll is. Bringing up ethnicity is a shameful manouver. Werent you. yesterday, that started that pathetic thread about a psychotic Fed fan?! And now this?! A thread asking why someone would hate a player?! Get real ...

There you go raging around again at me for posting a totally reasonable poll. Do you think a question about ethnicity is all that ridiculous? Afterall, that part of the world has had a number of ethnic wars recently so it isn't totally out of the question that people would dislike a player because of their ethnicity. It turns out that 5% (!) of the respondents hate/dislike him because of his ethnicity and over 10% hate/dislike him because of his appearance. You should be raging at them - not me. The responses are far more embarassing for this elitist forum than is the poll itself.

fmolinari2005
09-12-2007, 04:01 AM
There you go raging around again at me for posting a totally reasonable poll. Do you think a question about ethnicity is all that ridiculous? Afterall, that part of the world has had a number of ethnic wars recently so it isn't totally out of the question that people would dislike a player because of their ethnicity. It turns out that 5% (!) of the respondents hate/dislike him because of his ethnicity and over 10% hate/dislike him because of his appearance. You should be raging at them - not me. The responses are far more embarassing for this elitist forum than is the poll itself.


And do you think that this is a reasonable thing for a tennis forum?! This is a touchy subject, not to be treated like entertainment ...unless you are willing to write a thesis about this, and, if that is the case, using an internet poll isnt a reliable source.

Quit hiding behind your questions. It is very passive-aggressive ... your agenda is pretty clear.

Johnny Groove
09-12-2007, 04:04 AM
I like Novak Djokovic :)

dwynn10
09-12-2007, 04:19 AM
<snip> and over 10% hate/dislike him because of his appearance <snip>

Guess there's no accounting for taste. Yes, his head is a little too big and the body too thin, but I still find Djokovic good-looking, and, uh, sexy :). Now, if he acquires some more muscles, he would be hot!

Aloimeh
09-12-2007, 04:20 AM
And do you think that this is a reasonable thing for a tennis forum?! This is a touchy subject, not to be treated like entertainment ...unless you are willing to write a thesis about this, and, if that is the case, using an internet poll isnt a reliable source.

Quit hiding behind your questions. It is very passive-aggressive ... your agenda is pretty clear.

I don't see what's unreasonable about it. It was just one of ten questions, and no one brought up the issue until you starting huffing and puffing about it. I just wanted to know why people dislike Djokovic. I got my answers: the main reasons are real or alleged gamesmanship and arrogant statements/interviews.

Seriously, give it a rest.

Sparko1030
09-12-2007, 04:34 AM
I don't hate him, but he does annoy me. His arrogant, "delicate genius" attitude is why. Perhaps its becuase he is young, but really, I wish he would use the #1 and #2 players as role models. Roger and Rafa are class acts as far as being good sportsman, IMO, and Nole has a way to go to be in their company in that respect.

In short, he has great game, he just needs some
emotional maturity to go with it. :)

mangoes
09-12-2007, 04:40 AM
I don't see what's unreasonable about it. It was just one of ten questions, and no one brought up the issue until you starting huffing and puffing about it. I just wanted to know why people dislike Djokovic. I got my answers: the main reasons are real or alleged gamesmanship and arrogant statements/interviews.

Seriously, give it a rest.


No.......why don't you give it a rest. Yesterday you created a thread that was so disgusting that the mods deleted it. Today, more nonsense. I think you've earned your entry into the assclown competition..........so please give this a rest.

celia
09-12-2007, 04:40 AM
I never paid any attention to him before this USO. Even when he beat Roger in Montreal I didn't pay attention because I assumed it was a fluke as I tend to see Federer as somewhat invincible except against Nadal on clay. So his occasional losses don't stress me in the least. All champions lose occasionally while they regroup.

I started liking Nole when someone posted the You Tube thread with his imitation of other players. It was hysterical. His people obviously leaked it because he got asked to do his schtick after the semis. I thought, brilliant, a kid who has figured out a way to make himself an American media darling. What's not to love? I like the kid. I know nothing about his ball bouncing and the fake injury allegations because I never saw him play before his semi-final match. And what I saw I liked, very much.

~Jin~
09-12-2007, 05:38 AM
excessive bouncing and big ego

FedFan_2007
09-12-2007, 05:47 AM
I don't hate him - I think he's a future #1 and multi-slam champ. Also he speaks much English then Nadal at a younger age. Shame on you Rafa, for playing video games instead of improving your English.

RonE
09-12-2007, 06:05 AM
I don't hate him at all :shrug:

:secret: In fact, I have grown to quite like him

His parents are slightly irritating, but then many tennis parents are.

As for his ego trips, he will mellow out in time and learn to tune it down. All in all he adds another interesting dimension to the game and it is great that he has had such a breakthrough year :yeah:

Allure
09-12-2007, 06:11 AM
I don't hate him - I think he's a future #1 and multi-slam champ. Also he speaks much English then Nadal at a younger age. Shame on you Rafa, for playing video games instead of improving your English.

I recommend watching the movie 300 to improve his English.

hra87
09-12-2007, 06:18 AM
Ummm...I hate him (and hate is a good word, you ought to have some tennis player you absolutely despise) for the reasons everyone else said (including the murray comments).

But I would like to clarify something: He doesn't have a thin neck and large head, he has a THICK/LONG neck and a SMALL head. Add the hair, and...yeah.

http://cornedbeefhash.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/adelaide-djokovic.jpg

Compare to:

http://english.people.com.cn/200601/09/images/federer.jpg

niko
09-12-2007, 06:20 AM
The #1 reason why you guys & gals hate him he is better than your favorite he brings more action than any other jorneyman 20 years old already kicking ass taking names. How you can hate this kid if he was my son I'd've done the same thing his parents did in the box.:)

LOB
09-12-2007, 06:20 AM
Bringing up ethnicity is a shameful manouver.Those who selected it should be very ashamed.http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/images/smilies/thumbdown.gif

Afterall, that part of the world has had a number of ethnic wars recently
There are players (in the top 10 at that) who's nations are at war right now...

LOB
09-12-2007, 06:30 AM
just a quick question for the "haters";

can you cite an instance of arrogance from novak?

Allure
09-12-2007, 06:33 AM
just a quick question for the "haters";

can you cite an instance of arrogance from novak?

Only an instance?

LOB
09-12-2007, 06:34 AM
well yeah... more if you're able

let's hear 'em

gomeny
09-12-2007, 06:38 AM
Those who selected it should be very ashamed.http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/images/smilies/thumbdown.gif




He might start shelling his opponent.











j/k;)

Allure
09-12-2007, 06:44 AM
well yeah... more if you're able

let's hear 'em

''You're going down Federer.''

When he won in Montreal, he say to Roger ''You can't win everything.'' In other words, suck it up loser.

His dad said that Roger was scared of Novak because Djoke can beat him. I know it's his dad and not Novak himself but it runs in the family.

Turquoise
09-12-2007, 06:58 AM
I managed to overlook the ball bouncing when I saw his choice of entourage, specifically Robert De Niro :hearts: (I've always had a thing for De Niro). Seriously, I don't hate Djokovic, I respect his achievements and in time, he should mature and get rid of that cocky confidence.

FedFan_2007
09-12-2007, 07:18 AM
''You're going down Federer.''

When he won in Montreal, he say to Roger ''You can't win everything.'' In other words, suck it up loser.

His dad said that Roger was scared of Novak because Djoke can beat him. I know it's his dad and not Novak himself but it runs in the family.

Somehow I don't think he'll be saying "Fed - you're going down" in 2008 AO. :devil:

LOB
09-12-2007, 07:21 AM
''You're going down Federer.''First off I don't know when/where this was said, but whatever the context, I fail to see the arrogance. Considering Novak's usual antics I think it's safe to say this was a joke, despite the fact that Novak did take him down at Montreal... :D

When he won in Montreal, he say to Roger ''You can't win everything.'' In other words, suck it up loser.I think you're misinterpretating what was said. Novak was addressing the crowd and not Roger directly. He has shown more than his fair share of respect towards Federer. Heck, before that comment he took the time to give him props... Go figure.

His dad said that Roger was scared of Novak because Djoke can beat him. I know it's his dad and not Novak himself but it runs in the family.Haven't seen the interview...

groundstroke
09-12-2007, 07:45 AM
Cheating, Arrogance, and he's devious.

Farenhajt
09-12-2007, 08:22 AM
''You're going down Federer.''

When he won in Montreal, he say to Roger ''You can't win everything.'' In other words, suck it up loser.


Yea, how dare he talk like that to tennis GOD? How dare he not worship him and deviate from the only possible - and mandatory - tennis religion there is: "Honor thy Federer more than you honor thyself"? How dare he not have Roger as a role model and not do his very best to become Roger's bitch? How dare he state the obvious - that Roger is a human - when we all now he's an outworldly entity?

Pathetic :rolleyes:

jcempire
09-12-2007, 09:08 AM
OK, we know why some people like Novak Djokovic: humor, playing style, career on the rise, ethnic affiliation, etc....

But what are the specific reasons why the haters hate him?

Please be honest and answer the first reason that comes to mind, not the "right" one.

What a question???? Why do you hate Djok???? why hate this guy???? He is the real great guy, He got to be No 1

vincayou
09-12-2007, 09:09 AM
just a quick question for the "haters";

can you cite an instance of arrogance from novak?

"I was in total control"

LOB
09-12-2007, 09:14 AM
Yea, how dare he talk like that to tennis GOD? How dare he not worship him and deviate from the only possible - and mandatory - tennis religion there is: "Honor thy Federer more than you honor thyself"? How dare he not have Roger as a role model and not do his very best to become Roger's bitch? How dare he state the obvious - that Roger is a human - when we all now he's an outworldly entity?

Pathetic :rolleyes:

Reminds me of when Nole played Fedex here at the Australian Open earlier this year. In the days leading up to their encounter, he was asked something along the lines of "do you believe you can beat Federer?" and of course he said he did. As the match was about to begin the commentators made mention of this and deemed it disrespectful (!). They just couldn't understand why an up and coming athlete would believe in himself... For someone to merely think of beating Roger was unacceptable in their eyes. These views were rehashed several times throughout the match and the final result was to serve as a lesson to Novak for being so hopeful.

LOB
09-12-2007, 09:15 AM
"I was in total control"

Wasn't he?

scarecrows
09-12-2007, 09:16 AM
Wasn't he?

no, he was losing 2 sets to zero

vincayou
09-12-2007, 09:19 AM
I choose :
- His game style (boring)
- Cheating/Gamesmanship (no need to elaborate, but I admit he didn't do anything bad in the final)
- His family/coach/supporters (not too bad actually, the DJ block is OK, but his parents talk too much)
- His threat to Federer (to be honest, I wouldn't care if he was 60th at the ATP)

I could add :
- Playing the nice guy (it's strange to do that when you resort to gamesmanship)
- Some good tards on MTF lately (ezekiel of course could be a reason alone to want him failing but the serbian bandwagon has some good recruits like farenjheit)

I dislike him (with passion ;) ), hate is too strong. He had some good fans here until recently like savestheday, I feel sorry for them.

mickymouse
09-12-2007, 09:34 AM
His ball bouncing and injury time outs are annoying but not enough to make me detest him. At least he made it a point not to repeat it during the finals, which showed his willingness to accept criticism. His family's cheering for him is a little over the top sometimes but they're still not as bad as J-Block. At least they never try to distract or heckle his opponents.
On the whole, he's good for the tour because he's going to develop a great rivalry with Nadal after Federer's reign, and I'm looking forward to that.

Stroba
09-12-2007, 09:45 AM
His ball bouncing and injury time outs are annoying but not enough to make me detest him. At least he made it a point not to repeat it during the finals, which showed his willingness to accept criticism. His family's cheering for him is a little over the top sometimes but they're still not as bad as J-Block. At least they never try to distract or heckle his opponents.
On the whole, he's good for the tour because he's going to develop a great rivalry with Nadal after Federer's reign, and I'm looking forward to that.

I agree completely with your post.
I don´t hate any player and I´m kind of neutral towards Djokovic. However I´ll have a hard time liking him as long he keeps going with that eternal ballbouncing, especially on important points. I don´t think he does it on purpose, but still it got to be distracting for the opponent.
Another thing is him often giving the impression of being tired between points, yet he´s running like a rabbit during the next point.:scratch:

KitinovRules
09-12-2007, 09:50 AM
Couple of words-
Estoril 10 minute Medical Timeout.
And running like a rabbit after that.

Farenhajt
09-12-2007, 09:55 AM
ATP Rule:

Three minutes, alloted for a medical timeout, start AFTER the trainer makes the diagnose. Before that, the trainer has UNLIMITED time to make the diagnose.

So, Момче Витаминче, are you implying that the official ATP trainer was ALSO on Djokovic's squad, intentionally extending his diagnostical procedure to full 7 minutes, in order to give Novak extra rest?

Sean.J.S.
09-12-2007, 10:00 AM
TBH I am kinda feel indifferent about Novak. Not a fan, but not a hater. :p

TheMightyFed
09-12-2007, 10:48 AM
His neck is far too long and thick. His medical timeouts are "a joke" and I'm happy Fed spoke up about it. The bouncing getting longer at crunch time is also vicious gamesmanship. The sense of self-confidence instilled by his parents is over the top. I like the imitations but I'm not sure it's a clever thing for him to imitate his peers in such a competitive environment. Good for the media, but good also to fire up some Nadal or Federer. And Djoko doesn't need that, despite the fact he's "in control"...

sports freak
09-12-2007, 11:02 AM
Like your X -girlfriend,you hate her cos she was soo good!!That's life!p.s Also the Gap needs to be closer for his opponents,not like Woodsy atm!!

LOB
09-12-2007, 11:05 AM
I've noticed that the common denominator with Novak's alleged arrogance is Federer. Every example that "haters" have presented so far involves Fedex in some shape or form. Yet Novak is consistently praising him - on the court, off the court, at presentations... He on the other hand has not been so nice to Novak.

So what's the deal? :confused:

Is there really any basis for believing that Novak is arrogant? Or is it all hot air?

Naide
09-12-2007, 11:11 AM
When he won in Montreal, he say to Roger ''You can't win everything.

Well that's true. I don't see the problem.

TheMightyFed
09-12-2007, 11:16 AM
I've noticed that the common denominator with Novak's alleged arrogance is Federer. Every example that "haters" have presented so far involves Fedex in some shape or form. Yet Novak is consistently praising him - on the court, off the court, at presentations... He on the other hand has not been so nice to Novak.

So what's the deal? :confused:

Is there really any basis for believing that Novak is arrogant? Or is it all hot air?

Saying he was in control of the match while Nadal beat him 2 sets-0 was kind of arrogant to say the least

vincayou
09-12-2007, 11:38 AM
So what's the deal? :confused:

Is there really any basis for believing that Novak is arrogant? Or is it all hot air?

We gave you examples, if you don't read our answers, don't ask questions.

LOB
09-12-2007, 11:43 AM
We gave you examples, if you don't read our answers, don't ask questions.

You haven't answered anything.

Perhaps you should read the question another time...

Adler
09-12-2007, 11:51 AM
I do not hate him, but he should cut down this ball bouncing and racket throwing. Maybe an umpire warning would teach him

VolandriFan
09-12-2007, 12:01 PM
I only hate Nole when he beats pics :(

He's a likeable guy :)

vincayou
09-12-2007, 12:14 PM
You haven't answered anything.

Perhaps you should read the question another time...

Conversation :
Lob : can you cite an instance of arrogance from novak?

Vincayou : "I was in total control" (after trailing 2 sets to Nadal)

Lob : Is there really any basis for believing that Novak is arrogant? Or is it all hot air?


What do you want us to do? Sing a song?

leng jai
09-12-2007, 12:34 PM
I ticked them all without reading them because I hate him so much.

LOB
09-12-2007, 12:34 PM
Conversation :
Lob : can you cite an instance of arrogance from novak?

Vincayou : "I was in total control" (after trailing 2 sets to Nadal)

Lob : Is there really any basis for believing that Novak is arrogant? Or is it all hot air?

What do you want us to do? Sing a song?

Very well, I'll take that on board...

At the time you posted that you neglected to mention who it was against so it slipped under the radar. Even now, it's still unclear which match you're referring to. Is it French Open? 06? 07? Rome? Indian Wells? Give me something to work with. Was it during the presentation? Interview? Do you have a link?

Btw, when it comes to losing and "total control", Novak certainly wouldn't be the only (http://edition.cnn.com/2007/SPORT/03/28/tennis.federer/index.html) one ;)

Magenta
09-12-2007, 12:52 PM
where's the peanut head option?

Farenhajt
09-12-2007, 12:53 PM
I've noticed that the common denominator with Novak's alleged arrogance is Federer. Every example that "haters" have presented so far involves Fedex in some shape or form. Yet Novak is consistently praising him - on the court, off the court, at presentations... He on the other hand has not been so nice to Novak.

So what's the deal? :confused:

Is there really any basis for believing that Novak is arrogant? Or is it all hot air?

There was another controversial statement, this time on Murray's account, after the latter got his most recent wrist injury:

"You've got to take care of your body and I think he's learned the lesson now," Djokovic told BBC Sport. "Obviously he was not taking care of his body and he's got the injury which brought him a lot of negative things."

That, together with their H2H record (3-0 for Nole), was enough for Murray's diehard fans to utterly diss Djokovic - and just imagine how combined Murrerer fans feel :)

Objectively, there was no arrogance at all in those words. Nole said it like it is. Is it better to act "heroic and classy" and risk a heavy injury but keep your shoulder clapped, or to take full advantage of the current ATP rules and take a break whenever a problem gets too heavy? Absolutely no point in acting macho to one's own damage.

Actually, the best Murray's fans could do for him is to encourage him to take on-court medical timeouts whenever needed. The guy spends ridiculous amount of time on injury leaves, and that's something that shouldn't be happening if he's to fully develop his potentials.

bittertea
09-12-2007, 12:56 PM
Novak Djokovic = David Brent

star
09-12-2007, 01:02 PM
OK, we know why some people like Novak Djokovic: humor, playing style, career on the rise, ethnic affiliation, etc....

But what are the specific reasons why the haters hate him?

Please be honest and answer the first reason that comes to mind, not the "right" one.

Isn't this just a thread to invite player bashing?

ChrisDoesDallas
09-12-2007, 01:15 PM
I mostly just hate his game, but the gamesmanship and cockiness are irritating as well.

OrinUK
09-12-2007, 01:38 PM
How could some of you "so called humans" hate him because of his race?

Rogiman
09-12-2007, 01:56 PM
My only "problem" with Novak is that I wish he had some "trademark shot", or that he would play the game in a unique way, right now he's too mechanical to my taste.

However, I don't dislike him whatsoever :wavey:

t0x
09-12-2007, 02:57 PM
I dislike his gamesmanship at times.

His game is promising, I enjoy watching him compared to most of the young-guns (except Richie), but it's not exactly inspiring to watch.

Kristen
09-12-2007, 03:22 PM
I hate everyone who has hair like chia pets! OMG! Jarkko Nieminen. Jurgen Melzer (when short), umm... undoubtedly if Jim Thomas had hair, it would look like a Chia pet!

Ok ok, I'm joking. I don't pay much attention to Novak, but he seems like a personality, and aside from all the bouncing, I don't mind the guy. I just didn't want to miss out on a poll, and since I barely come here these days, I couldn't resist. Please forgive me :P

http://www.rkdm.com/chiapet/shaggychia.jpg

Vlad
09-12-2007, 03:34 PM
The line between love and hate is very very thin...

AnnaK_4ever
09-12-2007, 03:53 PM
I don't hate, just dislike him because of:

his cheating/gamesmanship (including ball bouncing)
his environment
his excessive efforts to look funny, cool etc.

l_mac
09-12-2007, 03:54 PM
The line between love and hate is very very thin...


Not in this case.

Anyway, I don't think anyone actually hates Novak. There are just lots of reasons not to like him.

Farenhajt
09-12-2007, 03:56 PM
Anyway, I don't think anyone actually hates Novak.

And then there's sawan... :lol:

Baby May
09-12-2007, 10:05 PM
His (arrogant) statements and press conferences
cause he simulate his injures on court!!!!

jasmin
09-12-2007, 11:08 PM
I didn't pay Novak any attention until the FO in 2006, and I haven't liked him since then. So I suppose my initial dislike stemmed from his injury dramas/press comments. This year the fact that he so obviously believes his own hype have bumped him to the top of my nono list. I have wondered occassionally if my dislike is also fuelled by the fact that Nole's having the sort of year that I wanted Andy Murray to have :sad:. Honestly, though, the fact that I think he's a total arse stands alone, regardless of my feelings toward other players.

Man I wish I could see him at the FO or him in the clay season. I use to like Novak. I liked him when he beat Federer but now I'm kind of neutral. I wasn't sure I like him making fun of Nadal. I'm not exactly a Nadal fan but I betcha he doesn't like it.

Love Fed and he made light of the matter with Nole but he did feel that he's treading a thin line with the making fun of people. Some of the guys on the tour don't like it.

Anyway the more I'm learning about him as time goes on I'm becoming distance regarding him. I normally root for most of the guys on tour.

Saturn66
09-13-2007, 10:54 AM
Cheating and gamesmanship
His arrogant statements and press conferences
His family and supporters

laure xxx
09-13-2007, 12:39 PM
He tries too hard to be entertaining, particularly in the locker room with the other players. It's kind of :o

kobulingam
09-13-2007, 01:13 PM
I hate how he gets back, leg, etc. messages during matches especially when the opponent has "real" injury timeouts for things like ankle injuries.

Juan Monaco was clearly injured and this punk gets a back message at the same time.

The Pro
09-13-2007, 02:15 PM
[X] He looks like a cross between that Muppet with the short pink hair and the loud guy from Stoppit and Tidyup...