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Can Little Guys Still be Top Players?

vahep
09-11-2007, 04:10 PM
All puns aside, in today's age of blast/power tennis, can men say 5-9 or shorter become top pro's? IAW, will there be another Rios or Chang type who can make a dent?

R.Federer
09-11-2007, 04:13 PM
Ferrer is 5ft9in I think, and he is a top player.

kensan
09-11-2007, 05:34 PM
Rios got to #1, Chang won a GS and at least 1 other GS final. As far as results like these, I don't think there will be another "short" player that will come close to these results. My last hope was for Coria...but it's not looking good of late.

Short guys can always be top 20, but with the need for a very good serve (except on clay) to be a top player, I think they'll struggle to make top 10.

groundstroke
09-11-2007, 05:36 PM
Yes, racquets are very different to what they were 10-30 years ago.

Adler
09-11-2007, 05:37 PM
Only if they run like hell and have a decent serving motion

Forehander
09-11-2007, 05:39 PM
It's very hard, the main reason is because of their serve, reach and energy consuming style. THe ball is always above their head and it generally makes it much harder for them. But serve is the main thing, they bounce too low so they can't earn as many cheap points.

Allegretto
09-11-2007, 06:02 PM
To bring WTA into it, I'm always shocked at how Henin manages to hit the ball as hard, and sometimes even harder than, say, the Williams sisters. Obviously the women's game is rather different, but power and physical strength is a big factor there now as well, yet Henin still competes with the biggest and strongest of them.

I'm not sure it'd work out so well in the men's game, but it must be something that offers some hope to up and coming players who aren't built like a tank.

BORO77
09-11-2007, 06:13 PM
When have you guys played tennis the last time?
I think it is much better for a tennis player to be 177,182,185 or smth like that then 197 or even more.
It is not all about serve, it is much harder to move and get under the ball when you are too tall.
I would say that 180 or 185 which is underaverage height is the best height for a tennis player. This is not basketball,handball, volleyball:) we are still talkin about tennis.

LleytonMonfils
09-11-2007, 06:34 PM
speed is so underrated. a guy can hit the ball as hard as he wants, but if your opponent keeps getting it back it means nothing. yes, it probably is tougher for shorter people but it really isn't. usually they'll have the speed advantage, and although having a big serve does have a little bit to do with height a smaller guy with good placement is just as deadly.

Henry Chinaski
09-11-2007, 06:40 PM
I would say that 180 or 185 which is underaverage height is the best height for a tennis player. .

haha. You'd know this guy was a Croat.

Snowwy
09-11-2007, 06:47 PM
haha. You'd know this guy was a Croat.

Well thats only 5'11"-6'1" so thats not that tall. For men, Im sure there are many countries where this is average.

Sunset of Age
09-11-2007, 06:52 PM
If height were (one of) the deciding property that makes a player a top player, all the Dutch guys would be in the top 10... :lol:

(Young Dutch guys have an average height of around 1.88 meter nowadays. ;))

CyBorg
09-11-2007, 07:05 PM
Yes. It would most likely have to be a stocky, strong guy if he's to be around 5-foot-8 or 9. Some of the strongest men I've known in my life were short - they are also some of the most competitive and muscular. I don't mean to stereotype, but there is a common body type like this.

I think that we'll see another Laver-type eventually.

NinaNina19
09-11-2007, 08:52 PM
Well thats only 5'11"-6'1" so thats not that tall. For men, Im sure there are many countries where this is average.
6'1" is tall in any country. The only country in which 6'1" is average is maybe Crna Gora and people there are really tall. I think 6'1" is average height for a male tennis player not below. Also I think Anything 5'9"+ is fine as long as you are fast.

ASP0315
09-11-2007, 09:02 PM
Arnaud Clement reached top 10 a couple of years ago.
David ferrer is very good returner but he is very inconsistent player. He doesn't uses his brain properly in crucial situations.)
Olivier Rochus the shortest guy on the tour. People call him as giant killer as he defeated karlovic three times.(ironically the only time he lost to karlovic was on clay. :lol: )
I watched rochus a lot of times and i think he should be a top 10 player with that game. But why hasn't he reached top 10.?

jonas
09-11-2007, 09:11 PM
Why can't people start writing/using centimeters and kilometers instead of feet, inches and miles so everyone understands? It's beyond my understanding why they use miles per hour at measuring serves at tournaments! These measure systems are so illogical. 1 mile = 1609 meter. 1 feet is, what 30 centimeters? And 1 inch is 2,5 centimeter? I think they should use global measurements at international sports events!

Look at the athletics! Smart people. They run 400 meters. Not yards! They jump 8 metres, not 25 feet...

brent-o
09-11-2007, 09:35 PM
Arnaud Clement reached top 10 a couple of years ago.
David ferrer is very good returner but he is very inconsistent player. He doesn't uses his brain properly in crucial situations.)
Olivier Rochus the shortest guy on the tour. People call him as giant killer as he defeated karlovic three times.(ironically the only time he lost to karlovic was on clay. :lol: )
I watched rochus a lot of times and i think he should be a top 10 player with that game. But why hasn't he reached top 10.?

I agree, for such a little guy he has a big game. He really had some good form a year or two ago, pushing Federer in one match. Lately though, there hasn't been much talk of him. Has he really backslid that bad, or was it an injury issue, anyone know?

njnetswill
09-11-2007, 10:40 PM
Americans still use our old English units because we are the dumbest people in the developed world. We have some of the smartest minds in the world too, but go to a typical rural American town and the only meters they have heard of are parking meters. :help:


On topic: I guess Kei Nishikori is one to watch to see if he can have a decent career. :wavey:

Burrow
09-11-2007, 11:57 PM
Arnaud Clement reached top 10 a couple of years ago.
David ferrer is very good returner but he is very inconsistent player. He doesn't uses his brain properly in crucial situations.)
Olivier Rochus the shortest guy on the tour. People call him as giant killer as he defeated karlovic three times.(ironically the only time he lost to karlovic was on clay. :lol: )
I watched rochus a lot of times and i think he should be a top 10 player with that game. But why hasn't he reached top 10.?

A couple? well nearly 8 isn't that far I suppose.

Ideal height for a player would be around 6'1 - 6'4.

Anything much heigher and you wouldn't move very well.

LilyRoseAva
09-11-2007, 11:59 PM
grosjean was #4

Byrd
09-12-2007, 12:05 AM
If Oli Rochus was taller, he would be top 20 easily IMO.

Kolya
09-12-2007, 12:23 AM
Davydenko No. 4.

He hits it pretty hard.

Forehander
09-12-2007, 03:09 AM
When have you guys played tennis the last time?
I think it is much better for a tennis player to be 177,182,185 or smth like that then 197 or even more.
It is not all about serve, it is much harder to move and get under the ball when you are too tall.
I would say that 180 or 185 which is underaverage height is the best height for a tennis player. This is not basketball,handball, volleyball:) we are still talkin about tennis.

I was only talking about not enough bite on small people's serve and requires much hard work. I wasn't talking about the limitations of different heights. Im a junior and i play tennis more than you ever will in your life sir.

ChinoRios4Ever
09-12-2007, 04:28 AM
Rios was all talent :worship:

Gaudio was #5 and won RG, also Coria was #3 and almost unstoppable on clay in his top

gomeny
09-12-2007, 04:41 AM
yes if they put a cap on racquet/string technology and sped up non clay courts.