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Defending champ OUT!!!

BmxBandit
05-27-2004, 06:17 PM
Ferrero :(

Bilbo
05-27-2004, 06:22 PM
no surprise

Deboogle!.
05-27-2004, 06:22 PM
:sad: :sad: :sad:

alfonsojose
05-27-2004, 06:24 PM
Sad consequence of horrible decisions :rolleyes: .. He should be resting for Halle an then Wimbledon. He wouldn't win but he can win some matches healthy

User ID 4783
05-27-2004, 06:26 PM
RG is scaring me...
First Agassi, then Justine, and now JCF; Serena is struggling as well

David Kenzie
05-27-2004, 06:26 PM
Federer isnt out yet

edit : hmm didnt someone say the top 2 seeds were out ? seems to have disapeared :S

undomiele
05-27-2004, 06:27 PM
Nor Coria! ;)

henree
05-27-2004, 06:27 PM
Wow both defending champions out in the 2nd round. This must be some sort of a record..

gillian
05-27-2004, 06:28 PM
That really is too bad. I like him a lot.

BmxBandit
05-27-2004, 06:28 PM
Serena has a SP ;)

oxy
05-27-2004, 06:32 PM
i watched the whole match...it was a torture...i thought anytime he would retire but he did not....though he lost in straight sets but he tried and hang in there till the last minute....credit to andreev...anyway now he might as well skip wimby too and just rest before he starts playing in olympics...thats the most possible biggie that he could win this year...:sad:

Horatio Caine
05-27-2004, 06:36 PM
Andreev was always going to be dangerous although i didn't think he was as good as Haas. I thought that given his draw, Ferrero could have 4th round and lost to gaudio.

Never mind Juan - rest and make sure you're properly ready for the next tournament you decide to play! :)

lizabeth..*
05-27-2004, 06:39 PM
JC :sad: :sad:

While it doesn't suprise me, I am rather upset. Maybe it was the fact that he was looking to the sky for answers.

Rest up JC!!

undomiele
05-27-2004, 06:39 PM
Poor Ferrero. :sad: :sad: :sad: The Tennis Gods have been very cruel. :(

oxy
05-27-2004, 06:42 PM
just wanna add on that juanqui was more affected by hitting from the baseline than serving...u could see the pain in his eyes...he could not be aggressive like he always is on clay and andreev was the aggressive one todae hitting winners which were very impressive, juanqui was not running enough to get back the balls too...basically he just lost everything in this match, UEs, miss hits, stamina, breathing problem....now just rest well

Lady
05-27-2004, 06:44 PM
JC & Justine both missed the whole clay season because of sickness/injuries :sad: So it's not such a big surprise about JC!
And his beautiful record at RG were just gone :(

Even through I like Igor for some time now, I was so sad when JC looked in the sky on this 3 match points! :sad:

jazz_girl
05-27-2004, 06:44 PM
Unfourtunatly I saw this coming :sad: I hope he gets better soon, I wanna see him play at his best again!

Deboogle!.
05-27-2004, 06:46 PM
I was so sad when JC looked in the sky on this 3 match points! :sad:

oh my goshhhhhhh :sad: that must've been horrible :sad:

oxy
05-27-2004, 06:46 PM
perhaps its good for him to lose all the important points and start all over again without the pressure of defending again.....sometimes it can take a toll on you if u know u have many many points to defend

CooCooCachoo
05-27-2004, 06:47 PM
Igor :D

kiro
05-27-2004, 06:53 PM
just wanna add on that juanqui was more affected by hitting from the baseline than serving...u could see the pain in his eyes...he could not be aggressive like he always is on clay and andreev was the aggressive one todae hitting winners which were very impressive, juanqui was not running enough to get back the balls too...basically he just lost everything in this match, UEs, miss hits, stamina, breathing problem....now just rest well

Definitely...I think he was below 50% :tears:

lalaland
05-27-2004, 07:03 PM
Too bad for JC. He just not up to it. Still, he decided to participate and won one, can't ask him to do more than he already did.

His serve is just bad, only winning 49% of his first serve, eventhough he got a high % on 1st serve, it's just like he's spinning them into the court.

Now I hope he will take a rest, don't mind if he skips Halle eventhough he signed up for that. Just rest and get well and prepare for the next big one on grass.

YoursTruly
05-27-2004, 07:29 PM
Both defending champs were eliminated in the 2nd round. You have to give them credit though for coming out to play and defend. Unfortunately both JCF and JHH have been under illnessess and injury so to win again would be too much to ask for from them. They are both great champions and will do well again very soon! :)

LCeh
05-27-2004, 07:30 PM
Well, at least currently Juanqui will still be ranked 4th I think. But after French, he might drop to something like 6-7th?

Horatio Caine
05-27-2004, 07:42 PM
Well, at least currently Juanqui will still be ranked 4th I think. But after French, he might drop to something like 6-7th?

Well...he can only really be overtaken by Henman, Nalbandian and Moya. Henman has got to get to at the semis to overtake him and i think Nalby has to do that too. Ferrero will probably be overtaken by Moya but i don't think he will drop out of the top 5 until the grass court season starts.

sigmagirl91
05-27-2004, 07:44 PM
You're right, jez. They both have to get at that point in the tournament before they can overtake him.

Horatio Caine
05-27-2004, 07:47 PM
You're right, jez. They both have to get at that point in the tournament before they can overtake him.

...and it's likely they'll both lose before then! :)

plum_juice10
05-27-2004, 07:48 PM
You saw the match, oxy, rite?? that guy only hit forehands like alll the time.

Real shame that both defending champs are out and upsetting too...lets hope they can both get better and do well at Wimbledon (which I hope they will play)

Horatio Caine
05-27-2004, 08:23 PM
You saw the match, oxy, rite?? that guy only hit forehands like alll the time.

Real shame that both defending champs are out and upsetting too...lets hope they can both get better and do well at Wimbledon (which I hope they will play)


Don't worry, they'll be back in force soon enough! :)

Carito_90
05-27-2004, 09:30 PM
Oh Juanqui... this is so damn sad... my two favourites guys are out now :sad: I really though he could get at least to R2, such a pity he couldn't. He'll drop a few spots probably. OMG I'm too sad :bigcry:

I was so sad when JC looked in the sky on this 3 match points!

I bet he was apologising to his mom :sad:

Aurora
05-27-2004, 09:49 PM
Oh dear, you got me all teary Carito with that thought! :crying2: :crying2:

Carito_90
05-27-2004, 09:59 PM
I know, it was the first thing that came up to my head you know... i dunno if he was apologising, but probably thinkin or saying something to his mom.

Scotso
05-27-2004, 10:13 PM
Juan Carlos :sad:

amethyst
05-27-2004, 10:28 PM
Very sad for Ferrero. He looked really devastated at the end :sad: But he deserves respect for trying and playing despite his pain.

RogiFan88
05-27-2004, 10:40 PM
Both defending champs were eliminated in the 2nd round. You have to give them credit though for coming out to play and defend. Unfortunately both JCF and JHH have been under illnessess and injury so to win again would be too much to ask for from them. They are both great champions and will do well again very soon! :)

well said! ;)

Juanqui was especially brave for playing... his Spanish pride was too strong for him to pull out... at least he won his 1st rd so it could have been worse, if you can imagine it.

Take care of yourself, Juanqui!! Buena suerte en Alemania e Inglaterra!

HybridTheory
05-27-2004, 10:48 PM
Juanqui:sad:

oxy
05-27-2004, 11:00 PM
You saw the match, oxy, rite?? that guy only hit forehands like alll the time.

Real shame that both defending champs are out and upsetting too...lets hope they can both get better and do well at Wimbledon (which I hope they will play)

igor was setting up his winners so well that jc couldn't do much becos of his injuries and pain, i have a feeling his wrist was hurting too cos at points u could see that he was tryin to adjust his forhand but couldn't do much...basically there was no power in his display where he usually should have....somehow i really admire his courage to hang in there even though u know he is goin to lose....like i said earlier...at the end of 2nd set, i thought he was goin to retire but he continued all the way till the last point...i think its something we should take from this match...so its not really that bad afterall thou he lost but he was brave...:)

oxy
05-27-2004, 11:11 PM
The Post Match Interview from RG Website
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Q. Can you tell us any commentary to the match? >

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO: I think he played a very good match, you know. He has a lot of talent, a very good forehand. He moves very quickly. You know, I couldn't play my best tennis today, maybe because I don't feel so good physically and I couldn't arrive to the balls in the right time. You know, always I hit the ball, you know, so late, you know, and I couldn't push so hard.

Q. How difficult was it to play with that injury? Did it slow you up? Did it affect your movement?

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO: No, here was okay, the rib was okay. But I start to feel some problems in the adductor. You know, in the third set, I feel some cracks, you know, strong cracks, you know, and I couldn't move so well.

You know, that's it. It was pretty difficult to stay in the match with two injuries.

Q. Did you feel, actually coming into this championship, I know you made a late decision, that you really had a real chance of defending your title or in your heart you knew you were only going to last a few rounds?>

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO: You know, it's easy to say, it's pretty difficult to defend a title when you are not a hundred percent. You have to think day to day, you know, and we'll see what's happen.

Q. How good did you know Andreev? He lives in Spain. Did you know him good?

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO: I didn't know him so good. This is one of the first times I see him. I didn't know how he play, you know. You know, was the first meeting.

Q. Is it difficult to play against such a player, nobody knows who is it?

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO: Sometimes yes, because you don't know how he play, how he going to hit the ball, you know, strong or not, if he going to go to the net or not. So sometimes is tough to play like this, but sometimes it happens.

Q. Do you still think you made the right decision to try to play this Roland Garros especially?

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO: You know, right now I have to say yes because I played two matches and I have the opportunity to play some tennis. I couldn't play in the last two months matches, you know. I had the opportunity to play here. But I had to put injections, you know. Was a pretty tough decision to take, but finally I take it so I have to happy with this.

Q. What are you going to do now?

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO: I don't practice until Monday, you know, and I will start to practice on grass.

THE MODERATOR: Questions in Spanish.

Q. How do you feel?

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO: Well, not too good. After my rib got a bit better, I managed to train this morning without using anything special, and I was feeling all right. It's true that I've been taking things for my first match. In the third set, I started to feel pain again.

Quite truthfully, I wasn't feeling too well, too strong in my mind. I don't feel too well now. I think that's normal. After my rib started to get better, now it's something else. It's not easy. It's one thing after another.

Of course, people keep telling you, "Cheer up, you'll get over it." But time goes by and it's difficult to see that I haven't been able to play at all this year at 100%.

It's true that in Australia I never managed to play in top shape. I always had one problem or another. Probably everyone has a bad year. This is looking like a bad year for me.

Q. It's not very good to arrive on court in that physical condition to defend a title.

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO: Well, it's true that after all the problems that I've had this year, I wasn't feeling very well. The experts thought that I wouldn't be able to do too well after being off court for so long, all these injections, all these efforts, that probably it would end up with some physical problem or another, which has been the case.

Q. You were in pain today?

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO: Well, obviously it's never pleasant when things aren't going your way. I lost the match. But I've tried to keep up. I had Love-40. I was trying to come back into the match, then everything went very, very quickly.

In the third set, when I started feeling really in pain, then there wasn't much I could do about my tennis.

Q. The crowd wanted the match to go on.

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO: Yes, but I knew I couldn't go on for long.

Q. On Monday you were thinking about playing or not playing. Do you think you made the right decision or are you having second thoughts?

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO: Well, about that decision, I don't know. I don't know if I took the best decision. But that's what I decided to do. Now I don't think I should regret it. I played a very good match in my first match. I was feeling well. My rib was feeling better. It wasn't my best match. Then today, it was something else.

I think it was the right decision, because that's the decision I made.

Q. Are you going to rest until you feel better now?

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO: I don't think I can do anything else. I'm going to stop until Monday. After that, I'll start training again and hope I'll feel better and see if I can overcome the problems, the difficulties, if I can train for two weeks, try to be fit again. Possibly I can do well on grass and get some good results, perhaps Wimbledon and other major tournaments.

Q. Which leg is it? Is it the same thing you had in Australia?

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO: It's the left leg.

Q. First of all, I'd like to congratulate you for the efforts you've done. What can you tell us about your opponent?

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO: Well, I don't know how old he is, but I think he's a player who is improving. He's very motivated. He had a good opportunity today. He was on center court. He really wanted to win this match. He's very fast. He has a good forehand. He has a good serve. He moves around quickly.

I think if I were fit, I would be able to beat this player, and I should win the match. But he's young. I think he's improving. I think he has the possibilities to get to the top.

Q. You said a moment ago you were able to train in the morning without taking anything. That means your rib was better. In the afternoon, did you take an injection or anything else before the match, an anesthetic?

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO: Yes, I did use something, because apart from the fact that I'd been training this morning without any problem, well, a match requires a lot more efforts than training. A couple of days ago, I was still in pain, so I thought it was a good precaution to take an injection today. I thought if I got through the match today, we would see about the future, because I was feeling better. But now I have another problem.

Q. This injury hasn't given you trouble during the match, the injury in your rib?

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO: No.

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His english is really improving but you know his spanish answers make more sense..;)

WyveN
05-27-2004, 11:58 PM
what a terrific win for Andreev, I don't think juan was prepared for Igor to play quite that well. He really took it to Ferrero and was outplaying him from the baseline right from the starts. It was obvious Ferrero wasnt going to hit Igor of the court on this particular day yet he persisted with the tactic without changing up his gamestyle and paid the price

PennyThePenguin
05-28-2004, 01:24 AM
poor guy...but he fought to the end, so that's good... sigh... not his year eh...?

J. Corwin
05-28-2004, 03:38 AM
too bad JC

star
05-28-2004, 04:43 AM
I know, it was the first thing that came up to my head you know... i dunno if he was apologising, but probably thinkin or saying something to his mom.


I think so too.... not apologising, but you know thinking of her and being with her in his mind.

trixy
05-28-2004, 06:25 AM
Ohh i was sooo upset this morning!! However, i just hope Juan Carlos recovers soon and can turn around his horrible injury ridden year.

Anyway I'm also going to look on the positive side of this whole thing, i mean every year juan carlos has done soo well at roland garros he hasnt had anytime to prepare for wimbledon. This yr he's going to make his ultimate run i can feel it ;)

I realised Juan Carlos doesnt have much to defend 4 the rest of the yr other then us open final and madrid. So hopefully he can get healthy and have a good run and try to qualify for the masters cup.

Action Jackson
05-28-2004, 06:32 AM
what a terrific win for Andreev, I don't think juan was prepared for Igor to play quite that well. He really took it to Ferrero and was outplaying him from the baseline right from the starts. It was obvious Ferrero wasnt going to hit Igor of the court on this particular day yet he persisted with the tactic without changing up his gamestyle and paid the price

Very true Andreev played very well and Ferrero acknowledged that straight away and it was good for him that he came out and defended his title and took the consequences. Ferrero is one dimensional and he wasn't able to use that dimension today, and he got stung for the lack of preparation and variety.

He should rest up and not bother about Wimbledon, and not come back until he is actually ready to play.

Aurora
05-28-2004, 09:31 AM
:rolleyes: he says his ribs didn't bother him, but his serves were so slow they must have. Nice interview though.

Doesn't seem like he's gonna follow up your advise GWH, he's gonna battle through the aches and pains like he's done most of the year. But I agree, his whole body is too weak to compete the way he must.


:sad:

Alan
05-28-2004, 10:51 AM
RG is scaring me...
First Agassi, then Justine, and now JCF; Serena is struggling as well

actually JCF, was not even expected to play, so i guess it was already a good thing that he got past through the first round against tommy haas... now that is not a scary thing, and i was quite pleased at that

i am not sure about the others though (agassi, henin, etc etc) :wavey:

Alan
05-28-2004, 10:56 AM
Ferrero is still my hero! what a great guy :)

Elam
05-28-2004, 12:52 PM
Well said Alan!!!
I'm really proud of him!!!