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Nole only 1090 points behind Rafa

optimism
09-10-2007, 02:38 PM
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t0x
09-10-2007, 02:52 PM
Good position to be in with not a great deal to defend.

Sunset of Age
09-10-2007, 02:55 PM
Rafa hasn't got too much to defend either, is it? Some MM tourneys and stuff...

Anyway, it's obvious Nole took a great leap towards the #2 position.

l_mac
09-10-2007, 02:57 PM
Rafa hasn't got too much to defend either, is it? Some MM tourneys and stuff...




I think he only has the QF at Madrid to defend, plus the MC. Nole has about 300 points to defend. But basically neither of them have anything significant.

GlennMirnyi
09-10-2007, 02:59 PM
In GS Nadal has AO QF while Fakervic has just 2nd round or something like that. It will be nice to see how it goes after the AO.

Fakervic also didn't play in Shanghai last year.

scoobs
09-10-2007, 02:59 PM
Rafa's problem is that, in 2007, you'd expect Djokovic to be the one gaining more points than Rafa on the remaining hardcourt and indoor swing.

That gap could look awful narrow by the time the Australian Open rolls around.

scoobs
09-10-2007, 03:00 PM
In GS Nadal has AO QF while Fakervic has just 2nd round or something like that. It will be nice to see how it goes after the AO.

Fakervic also didn't play in Shanghai last year.
R16 - losing to Federer at the Australian this year.

l_mac
09-10-2007, 03:02 PM
R16 - losing to Federer at the Australian this year.

I forgot Fed beat him in Australia this year. So only Fed and Rafa have beaten him in Slams this year. Not bad.

Sunset of Age
09-10-2007, 03:04 PM
I think he only has the QF at Madrid to defend, plus the MC. Nole has about 300 points to defend. But basically neither of them have anything significant.

Yep, neither have a lot to defend - but I'd say the outlooks for Nole even improving further look a lot better than for Rafa, with the indoor HC season coming up now.

Pfew. Who could've thought it during the first half of this year - the gap between Nole and Rafa seems to be closing a lot quicker than the gap between Fed and Rafa...
Fingers crossed for Rafa. :angel:

GlennMirnyi
09-10-2007, 03:05 PM
R16 - losing to Federer at the Australian this year.

He did get that far? Well, I don't expect Nadal gettin' to the QF again anyway.

t0x
09-10-2007, 03:07 PM
Rafa hasn't got too much to defend either, is it? Some MM tourneys and stuff...

Anyway, it's obvious Nole took a great leap towards the #2 position.

You'd expect Nole to outperform Rafa though on the faster courts. And 0 to defend at TMC.

Sunset of Age
09-10-2007, 03:12 PM
You'd expect Nole to outperform Rafa though on the faster courts. And 0 to defend at TMC.

Indeed... and that makes me as being a Rafafan rather worried.

Oh dear. Hope Rafa's team will chose a different schedule for him next year - his bold attempt to pile up as many points as possible during the first half of this year (Stuttgart? Hamburg?) might well cost him the #2 position around AO 2008... :sad:

optimism
09-10-2007, 03:19 PM
all of a sudden Rafa's excessive match plays seem necessary. His bid for #1 helps him maintain #2.

Burrow
09-10-2007, 03:19 PM
Indeed... and that makes me as being a Rafafan rather worried.

Oh dear. Hope Rafa's team will chose a different schedule for him next year - his bold attempt to pile up as many points as possible during the first half of this year (Stuttgart? Hamburg?) might well cost him the #2 position around AO 2008... :sad:
without stuttgart and hamburg he would be less than 500 points ahead of Djokovic :shrug:
He then, definately wouldnt not end year no.2.

It's as dangerous as it is now at 1000.

Burrow
09-10-2007, 03:21 PM
all of a sudden Rafa's excessive match plays seem necessary. His bid for #1 helps him maintain #2.

Yes, exactly.

ranaldo
09-10-2007, 03:26 PM
By the way, is it still gonna be the rubbery rebound ace at the Aussie open or are they also gonna turn that into a classic hardcourt ?

Sunset of Age
09-10-2007, 03:27 PM
without stuttgart and hamburg he would be less than 500 points ahead of Djokovic :shrug:
He then, definately wouldnt not end year no.2.


That depends whether his overplaying has or has not cost him a bucketload of points at the USO, which could well be, regarding the state he was in. We will never know for sure, of course, but one might say that his poor form was due to overplaying.

Okay, it's all speculation, but I feel sad to see Raf doing quite below expectation at the USO again, so I still feel the need to address his schedule in this regard.

scoobs
09-10-2007, 03:31 PM
That depends whether his overplaying has or has not cost him a bucketload of points at the USO, which could well be, regarding the state he was in. We will never know for sure, of course, but one might say that his poor form was due to overplaying.

Okay, it's all speculation, but I feel sad to see Raf doing quite below expectation at the USO again, so I still feel the need to address his schedule in this regard.
It's not his schedule, but his style of play on hardcourts that needs to be addressed.

he seems to be unusually intolerant of the stresses of the surface, physically. I don't know what the solution is - or if there is a solution at all.

MatchFederer
09-10-2007, 03:32 PM
Well.. Neither player has many points to defend but I fancy Djokovic to make steady gains on Nadal up to the TMC. At the TMC, Nadal has points to defend, Djokovic has NONE. I expect the race for number 2 to hinge upon the Australian Open. I think the probability of this happening is HIGH.

EDIT: Sorry tOx, I was ignorant of your post.

MatchFederer
09-10-2007, 03:33 PM
By the way, is it still gonna be the rubbery rebound ace at the Aussie open or are they also gonna turn that into a classic hardcourt ?

"...it is still a cushioned acrylic surface and preserves the Australian Open’s point of difference from other Grand Slam tournaments." - I hope this is really true.

Source - http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/news/articles/2007-05-30/200705301180554659203.html?promo=rss

GlennMirnyi
09-10-2007, 03:33 PM
By the way, is it still gonna be the rubbery rebound ace at the Aussie open or are they also gonna turn that into a classic hardcourt ?

Nobody knows how it's gonna be, but it sure won't be Rebound Ace.

mashamaniac
09-10-2007, 03:36 PM
is 1090 pts gap too little??? it's not like nadal is going to lose every event in 2nd or 3rd round,so surely nole will have more troubles from this point on...

MatchFederer
09-10-2007, 03:38 PM
is 1090 pts gap too little??? it's not like nadal is going to lose every event in 2nd or 3rd round,so surely nole will have more troubles from this point on...

As has been previously stated, Nole has NOTHING to defend at the TMC. It is reasonable to think that Novak could be within 500 points of Nadal by the time the Australian Open roles around. At this point, the Autralian Open becomes pivotal for the no.2 ranking, although if I remember correctly, Nole has a lot of early year tournament ranking points to defend.

Sunset of Age
09-10-2007, 03:38 PM
It's not his schedule, but his style of play on hardcourts that needs to be addressed.

I'd say - BOTH. :cool:

he seems to be unusually intolerant of the stresses of the surface, physically. I don't know what the solution is - or if there is a solution at all.

You're right, of course.
Neither do I, and judging by the way his USO turned out this year, I don't think his team has any clue either... :shrug:

mashamaniac
09-10-2007, 03:48 PM
As has been previously stated, Nole has NOTHING to defend at the TMC. It is reasonable to think that Novak could be within 500 points of Nadal by the time the Australian Open roles around. At this point, the Autralian Open becomes pivotal for the no.2 ranking, although if I remember correctly, Nole has a lot of early year tournament ranking points to defend.

well,all that being said,still we don't know what will happen! we don't know if nole can win any matches at shanghai!
and as for oz open,again we never know what will happen there too,maybe rafa won it?? i know all that is just a probability but we can't be so sure about nole winning all the matches from now on...
and don't forget that upsets oftenly happen in big matches...:wavey:

Sunset of Age
09-10-2007, 03:57 PM
well,all that being said,still we don't know what will happen! we don't know if nole can win any matches at shanghai!
and as for oz open,again we never know what will happen there too,maybe rafa won it?? i know all that is just a probability but we can't be so sure about nole winning all the matches from now on...
and don't forget that upsets oftenly happen in big matches...:wavey:

The most important thing is, IMHO, that all of the rest of the season's tournaments are (indoor) Hard Court (okay, Madrid is on carpet, but still). It's obvious it's still not Rafa's preferred surface (despite IW), while Nole seems to do very well on that particular surface.

Judging from Rafa's result at the AO this year I don't think he has any better chances of winning there than Nole has. But I might well be wrong - we don't know what will happen when Rafa manages to get his health & form back (let's hope so!). For now I'd say the surface will benefit Nole a lot more than it will Rafa... :aw:

MatchFederer
09-10-2007, 04:08 PM
well,all that being said,still we don't know what will happen! we don't know if nole can win any matches at shanghai!
and as for oz open,again we never know what will happen there too,maybe rafa won it?? i know all that is just a probability but we can't be so sure about nole winning all the matches from now on...
and don't forget that upsets oftenly happen in big matches...:wavey:

:shrug:

Ok.

And Rafa might completely flop and get pounded early at the Australian and not get through the RR stages of the TMC either. That is right, we do not know. What can be said thoughis that based on current form it would be idiocy to not at least admit that Nole has a good opportunity to get worryingly close to Rafa. Then again, Nadal might be rested from his tendonitus and go on an absolute tear for the rest of the season. Saying we do not know what will happen is pointless to me. We ALL KNOW that we don't know, but we can have fun speculating based on recent form and tournies played and points to defend.

R.Federer
09-10-2007, 04:19 PM
all of a sudden Rafa's excessive match plays seem necessary. His bid for #1 helps him maintain #2.
Not necessarily.
Without the excessive match play, he could have done better in Montreal and also at the USO.

groundstroke
09-10-2007, 04:20 PM
Rafa has some titles to defend, Djokovic hasn't got much.

R.Federer
09-10-2007, 04:23 PM
is 1090 pts gap too little??? it's not like nadal is going to lose every event in 2nd or 3rd round,so surely nole will have more troubles from this point on...
1090, well it's not a small gap but it is not unsurmountable. It would require both a herculean effort from one player and a dismal performance from the other-- which is unlikely I guess.

mangoes
09-10-2007, 05:24 PM
I'm curious as to how badly Nadal's knees are flaring up. If they're still giving him trouble during the indoor season, Djokovic will have an easier time gaining points.

R.Federer
09-10-2007, 05:30 PM
Hah, if nadal loses his 2nd spot, Roger might have to face him before the finals. So I guess safe to say he would like to see Nadal maintain his spot. Especially during the clay season :lol:

mangoes
09-10-2007, 05:32 PM
Hah, if nadal loses his 2nd spot, Roger might have to face him before the finals. So I guess safe to say he would like to see Nadal maintain his spot. Especially during the clay season :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: True.......I'd also like to see Nadal retain that no. 2 ranking for several reasons, including the one you listed:lol: :lol: :lol:

Sunset of Age
09-10-2007, 05:40 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: True.......I'd also like to see Nadal retain that no. 2 ranking for several reasons, including the one you listed:lol: :lol: :lol:

Seconded... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just imagine, Roger having to play Raf at RG 2008 in the semifinal... :help:
and consequently, Nole running off with the title! :tape:

Farenhajt
09-10-2007, 05:58 PM
and consequently, Nole running off with the title! :tape:

Now, tennis is a real bitch, isn't it? :rolleyes:

Sunset of Age
09-10-2007, 06:05 PM
Now, tennis is a real bitch, isn't it? :rolleyes:

Just kidding, mate. :rolleyes:

Apemant
09-10-2007, 06:07 PM
Hah, if nadal loses his 2nd spot, Roger might have to face him before the finals. So I guess safe to say he would like to see Nadal maintain his spot. Especially during the clay season :lol:

Wrong. Roger probably doesn't care at all if he loses RG in SF or F. But facing him in SF just might take off some of the pressure.

Of course, beating Nadal in SF and then losing to whoever (Nole?) in F would be like the worst nightmare. :devil:

Farenhajt
09-10-2007, 06:17 PM
Just kidding, mate. :rolleyes:

OK, sorry :)

Sunset of Age
09-10-2007, 06:33 PM
OK, sorry :)

No problem! :)

natasha_nana
09-10-2007, 06:39 PM
Seconded... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just imagine, Roger having to play Raf at RG 2008 in the semifinal... :help:
and consequently, Nole running off with the title! :tape:

:haha: :haha:

good one ;)

l_mac
09-10-2007, 06:58 PM
Rafa has some titles to defend, Djokovic hasn't got much.

:lol: Nadal doesn't have anything more than a quarter final (apart from his 200 MC points) to defend until Indian Wells next year. Don't you remember his well documented 8 month slump from July 06-March 07?

I'm curious as to how badly Nadal's knees are flaring up. If they're still giving him trouble during the indoor season, Djokovic will have an easier time gaining points.


Nadal is seeing his doctor today. But I bet his team tell us everything is fine regardless of what he is told. I hope he doesn't bother with Bangkok.

Djokovic is down to play 3 optionals (I think) this autumn - Bangkok, Vienna and Basel - but I wonder if he'll bother with all 3 as his optional results this year are already good so he won't make huge strides with his points total and it would mean playing 4 consecutive weeks from Vienna-Paris.

DrJules
09-10-2007, 07:10 PM
is 1090 pts gap too little??? it's not like nadal is going to lose every event in 2nd or 3rd round,so surely nole will have more troubles from this point on...

It is if Nadal has periods not playing injured in next few months.

Burrow
09-10-2007, 09:18 PM
That depends whether his overplaying has or has not cost him a bucketload of points at the USO, which could well be, regarding the state he was in. We will never know for sure, of course, but one might say that his poor form was due to overplaying.

Okay, it's all speculation, but I feel sad to see Raf doing quite below expectation at the USO again, so I still feel the need to address his schedule in this regard.

Bucket loads? he wasn't getting any further than quarters.

:confused:

MrChopin
09-10-2007, 10:42 PM
I think he will catch him, possibly before the end of 2007 but most likely at AO, unless a terrible early loss, injury, or some late '07 fight from Rafa. I think the keys for Djokovic are Madrid, TMC, and especially Paris. I'm assuming that Federer will again sit Paris out, and depending on the rankings/injuries, Rafa too. Djokovic, hungry as ever for #1, stands to gain a ton of points there: 495 are possible. Combine that with a S/F at Madrid, and a S/F at TMC, with Nadal protecting those numbers (I'm not sure what he's adding, but Nadal just protecting at this point is probably good), and Djokovic can gain a good portion of the 1100 needed to catch Rafa.

With the Australian, it could happen, but then Djokovic has a ton of points to defend, even more than Rafa. Up until clay, I think he has about 400 more, including IW and Miami, which if Federer plays in, will make that 850 point stretch somewhat difficult.

I think they'll flop back and forth for a while in 2008, with Djokovic eventually taking the lead once we're deep into the clay: Where else can Rada get summer clay points from, and even if he completes his incredible '07 clay run and defends them all, Nole can still easily gain some from his Rome/Hamburg/Monte Carlo Q/Q/R16 results in 2007.

So by Wimbledon, I think Djokovic will be established at #2, and if Nadal doesn't defend his Wimbledon points, he'll really need to have a plan for the second half of 2008, as #2 will be slipping by.

Of course, this is all provided that Djokovic continues the steady increase he's exhibited all year. It wouldn't be a complete shock to see him drop off a little, especially if guys like Murray and Gasquet find their form and challenge. And remember how Rafa burst onto the scene in 2006, looking unbeatable, and then was shunned near the end. Federer exposed a questionable backhand in Novak yesterday, so I wouldn't be surprised if people start picking up on him and giving him more trouble, just like they did to Nadal near the end of 2006.

schorsch
09-10-2007, 10:55 PM
I really hope he takes that number two spot. it would be so great. but obviously nadull will try to defend his ranking even if it means damaging his body like crazy. thats the sort of "fighter" he is. (a brainless one at that, too...)

Sunset of Age
09-10-2007, 11:09 PM
Bucket loads? he wasn't getting any further than quarters.

:confused:

That's what YOU expected. I'm pretty sure he expected quite a bit of a better result himself, I guess. :shrug:

Anyways, it didn't happen. No need for further speculation I think.
I can only hope for him to fully recover before Madrid/Shanghai right now. And wish he'll skip Bangkok. :angel:

Kalliopeia
09-10-2007, 11:42 PM
Oh dear. Hope Rafa's team will chose a different schedule for him next year - his bold attempt to pile up as many points as possible during the first half of this year (Stuttgart? Hamburg?) might well cost him the #2 position around AO 2008... :sad:

People keep saying this but honestly, he's played a total of four non-mandatory tournaments this year. Sydney (he retired early), Queens (lost in the quarterfinals), both warm up tournaments for slams. Stuttgart which was for points yes but also to keep from going a month without match play, and Barcelona. He couldn't very well skip Hamburg after making a big stink about it, and it didn't stop him from winning RG pretty decisively. There really isn't a lot of juggling he can do in the early part of the year, the clay season is jam packed.

Rafa has some titles to defend, Djokovic hasn't got much.

Djokovic actually has more points to defend between now and Shanghai than Rafa does, though neither have much. No more titles to defend until Indian Wells for Rafa. Djokovic won at...somewhere. The trophy that looked like an Alien egg. :lol: Djokovic only has 5 points from Paris and Rafa has none. It's Shanghai that will be the test I think. He has 200 points to defend there and Djokovic none. If the gap narrows appreciably I think it'll happen there.

Though really, I don't have a lot invested in his rank at the moment (contrary to how I may sound :lol:). As I've said before I'd rather he be #20 and healthy than #1 or #2 and not healthy.

R.Federer
09-11-2007, 12:02 AM
People keep saying this but honestly, he's played a total of four non-mandatory tournaments this year. Sydney (he retired early), Queens (lost in the quarterfinals), both warm up tournaments for slams. Stuttgart which was for points yes but also to keep from going a month without match play, and Barcelona. He couldn't very well skip Hamburg after making a big stink about it, and it didn't stop him from winning RG pretty decisively. There really isn't a lot of juggling he can do in the early part of the year, the clay season is jam packed.


Playing four tournaments is not nothing, especially when you go deep and end up winning the tournament(s). It also would be nothing if they were spaced out a bit more reasonably over several months. But he/his team bunched them on clay to amass race points or something, and it is not the worst decision ever but it is a poor one.

Playing 2 days after Wimbledon when you have already been screwed by the weather to play 5 matches in 7 days or whatever it was, and have some niggling injuries, this too is probably a poor decision. Playing in Hamburg when you have won three prior clay tournaments and certainly don't need any more tuning up before RG, this is also a run for points. All of this is adding up and did so in the hardcourt season. He could have done better at the USO perhaps without the knee/shin/etc injuries. His style of play already is not conducive to excessive hitting.

ranaldo
09-11-2007, 12:03 AM
I don't think Djokervic gives a fuck about the #2 rank. He wants to be number one and win major tournies. For now, he'll be focusing on winning trophies and the ranking will take care of itself. When he eventually becomes no.2, he'll make becoming #1 a big priority.

victory1
09-11-2007, 12:41 AM
Playing four tournaments is not nothing, especially when you go deep and end up winning the tournament(s). It also would be nothing if they were spaced out a bit more reasonably over several months. But he/his team bunched them on clay to amass race points or something, and it is not the worst decision ever but it is a poor one.

Playing 2 days after Wimbledon when you have already been screwed by the weather to play 5 matches in 7 days or whatever it was, and have some niggling injuries, this too is probably a poor decision. Playing in Hamburg when you have won three prior clay tournaments and certainly don't need any more tuning up before RG, this is also a run for points. All of this is adding up and did so in the hardcourt season. He could have done better at the USO perhaps without the knee/shin/etc injuries. His style of play already is not conducive to excessive hitting.

He missed big points opportunity there; his draw was perfect!!:p He could have beaten any of these players, even on fast hard court. I definitely had him penciled in to the semi at least; I even gave him a chance of making the finals. All the players that could beat him on hard where on Federer's side or Djokovic (at least that's what I thought). I believed his toughest test would have been the semi or/and finals.

Kalliopeia
09-11-2007, 12:53 AM
Playing four tournaments is not nothing, especially when you go deep and end up winning the tournament(s).


He only won two of them. He retired from Sydney in the first or second round, and Queens, lost in the quarters. It's the clay tournaments that seem to be in question.


It also would be nothing if they were spaced out a bit more reasonably over several months. But he/his team bunched them on clay to amass race points or something, and it is not the worst decision ever but it is a poor one.

I don't disagree that Stuttgart might not have been the greatest idea (given the injury that he got because of the Wimbledon fiasco), but what is a player who depends on match play to be in any kind of form to do when there is a month between Wimbledon and the hard courts? He tried to not play at all that month last year, and it didn't turn out well. He had a week between Wimbledon and Stuttgart, and played on the surface that is easier on his body. He's kind of between a rock and a hard place. Not playing at all last year was a disaster...he did ok until the USO (Cincy had nothing to do with his knees) this year.

Playing in Hamburg when you have won three prior clay tournaments and certainly don't need any more tuning up before RG, this is also a run for points. All of this is adding up and did so in the hardcourt season. He could have done better at the USO perhaps without the knee/shin/etc injuries. His style of play already is not conducive to excessive hitting.

I honestly don't see how he could have gotten out of Hamburg without looking like a giant asshole if he was fit, and he was (aside from fatigue). don't think that was so much a ploy for points (though I'm sure that was a factor) as it was that he'd spoken up for it and it would have looked awful not to show up. It wasn't like he had reason to think he was going to gain ground on Roger, because Roger was playing there too. He didn't actually seem particularly happy to be there. I wouldn't be surprised to see him ditch that one next year, though ditching Barcelona would make more sense.

ezekiel
09-11-2007, 01:20 AM
Nole has his goal set on #1, not 2-3 or whatever

NinaNina19
09-11-2007, 02:27 AM
I don't think Djokervic gives a fuck about the #2 rank. He wants to be number one and win major tournies. For now, he'll be focusing on winning trophies and the ranking will take care of itself. When he eventually becomes no.2, he'll make becoming #1 a big priority.

#2 is still better than number 3.

R.Federer
09-11-2007, 02:38 AM
Nole has his goal set on #1, not 2-3 or whatever

Where is that violin emoticon when you need it?

connectolove
09-11-2007, 03:02 AM
Is Rafa on the same path as Maria Sharapova? I hope not.

SheepleBuster
09-11-2007, 03:05 AM
I would feel bad for Roddick. He's got a semis in AO to defend. I think he can win a match or two at the TMC, but his top 5 future looks bleak with people like Murray, and Berdych not having much to defend. Blake better make it to TMC or he'll drop off the face of the earth ( i mean top 10)

PamV
09-11-2007, 03:17 AM
Rafa's problem is that, in 2007, you'd expect Djokovic to be the one gaining more points than Rafa on the remaining hardcourt and indoor swing.

That gap could look awful narrow by the time the Australian Open rolls around.

Djokovic could certainly catch Nadal next year. And how much longer will Nadal want to keep playing as much as he does if his knee problem continues?

PamV
09-11-2007, 03:18 AM
Nole has his goal set on #1, not 2-3 or whatever

I am sure he'd rather be #2 than #3, right?

hra87
09-11-2007, 03:34 AM
I don't know, the injuries, to me, aren't a result of his extra clay court tournaments. If he didn't play stuttgart, he would have been practicing on hard, and don't forget how hard nadal practices (that's what happened to the left knee, the serious problem). Stuttgart didn't really have any effect on his performance, because the right knee wasn't the problem. It was the practice on hard that did him in. Nadal seems like he can play on clay indefinitely without getting injured. He just knows how to move on the stuff.

The only way Nadal is going to stay injury free is if he changes his game, which he has been doing. I don't know what the likelihood is he'll be able to change it enough to have consistent hard court success and a long career (probably low). He's improved his serve speed, gotten better at the net, hits more winners, etc. He needs to develop a consistent wide serve to the deuce court, and more importantly, make playing aggresive a habit rather than a premeditated strategy. Here's hoping he can improve.

mickymouse
09-11-2007, 06:52 AM
Of course Djokovic cares about being number 2. That means he'll avoid Federer for certain until the final and the possibility of a Fed-Nadal clash in semis will work in his favor.

Rogiman
09-11-2007, 07:59 AM
People keep saying this but honestly, he's played a total of four non-mandatory tournaments this year. Sydney (he retired early), Queens (lost in the quarterfinals), both warm up tournaments for slams. Stuttgart which was for points yes but also to keep from going a month without match play, and Barcelona.Chennai? Dubai?

Action Jackson
09-11-2007, 08:03 AM
Chennai? Dubai?

He lost to Malisse in Chennai and to Youzhny in Dubai.

Rogiman
09-11-2007, 08:06 AM
He lost to Malisse in Chennai and to Youzhny in Dubai.I know, but he did play them, that was my point.

Action Jackson
09-11-2007, 08:07 AM
I know, but he did play them, that was my point.

Of course he did, but some have selective amnesia.

Monteque
09-11-2007, 09:53 AM
Djokovic could certainly catch Nadal next year.

With the raising Djokovic come to the surface, suddenly many posters here talking about how soon that he will reach no2 spot from Nadal even no.1.

Well, for me it isnt easy at all....AT ALL. Even it's a much doubtful for me. Now Nadal looks getting weaker. :o I just want to say...wait untill the clay season next year and many posters here will talk about how hard Djoko to reach the no.2 spot.

I dont want underestimate Djokovic but he should achieve the Grand Slam title first, no matter which one, then we can talk about higher spot.

HNCS
09-11-2007, 10:14 AM
This type of talk always comes around the second half of the year. Nadal is falling. He has always been like this, and then he jumps back as quickly during the first half.

Novak becoming no.2 is a real tough task. The clay season is just too long. [actually...why don't we have a damn grass masters....tennis originated on GRASS!!!]

ezekiel
09-11-2007, 12:11 PM
I am sure he'd rather be #2 than #3, right?

I am sure he will become #2 before #1 but important thing is to keep the eyes on the goal and not be sidetracked