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Is Chasing Records Getting to Federer?

OrinUK
09-10-2007, 12:12 AM
I think what people see as decline, is really a guy who feels so close to breaking Samp's record. Who want's it so bad that his game has gone to the defensive.;)

R.Federer
09-10-2007, 12:17 AM
Maybe it is a bit. He has appeared more nervous, his game has been more off, he has been stretched a little harder, in the last few slam finals. It is undoubtedly more pressure when you have 11 slams and 3 away, than when you are 7 slams and 7 away.

It's a pity, because combined with getting closer to 14, he is also going to get older and face younger, fresher opponents.

GonzoFed
09-10-2007, 12:21 AM
Maybe it is a bit. He has appeared more nervous, his game has been more off, he has been stretched a little harder, in the last few slam finals. It is undoubtedly more pressure when you have 11 slams and 3 away, than when you are 7 slams and 7 away.

It's a pity, because combined with getting closer to 14, he is also going to get older and face younger, fresher opponents.

Are you unable to just enjoy his 12th major? Why Fed fans keep complaining, whining and finding negatives is beyond my understanding.

fmolinari2005
09-10-2007, 12:26 AM
Are you unable to just enjoy his 12th major? Why Fed fans keep complaining, whining and finding negatives is beyond my understanding.


Me too. And this defensive plays is what allowed Roger 12 GS titles. There is a reason Roger is such a complete player: when he isnt striking the ball as well, he still can win through playing more defensive. Having more than one game plan is what makes a complete player.

There is a reason a guy like Marat wont win as much. Rellying only on pure talent, and winning only when you are on fire, wont get you to Roger's achievements.

DrJules
09-10-2007, 12:27 AM
Maybe it is a bit. He has appeared more nervous, his game has been more off, he has been stretched a little harder, in the last few slam finals. It is undoubtedly more pressure when you have 11 slams and 3 away, than when you are 7 slams and 7 away.

It's a pity, because combined with getting closer to 14, he is also going to get older and face younger, fresher opponents.

The decline seems to have effected his play when not in a crisis. He is playing key points better than ever.

victory1
09-10-2007, 12:28 AM
Me too. And this defensive plays is what allowed Roger 12 GS titles. There is a reason Roger is such a complete player: when he isnt striking the ball as well, he still can win through playing more defensive. Having more than one game plan is what makes a complete player.

There is a reason a guy like Marat wont win as much. Rellying only on pure talent, and winning only when you are on fire, wont get you to Roger's achievements.


Amen!!:worship:

R.Federer
09-10-2007, 12:33 AM
Are you unable to just enjoy his 12th major? Why Fed fans keep complaining, whining and finding negatives is beyond my understanding.
I answered the question that was asked in the thread. I am happy for him that he got a 12th slam, but I did not enjoy the match tennis wise except for the drama of those 78 set points or whatever that could not be converted.

megadeth
09-10-2007, 12:36 AM
you know, some fed fans just can't be satisfied!!! be happy with his 12th dammit! so what if it wasn't "beautiful" tennis, the guy still won a slam for pete's sake!

so if others win it with whatever kind of tennis they play, it's forgivable, but with fed, he has to play to your standards? c'mon....

OrinUK
09-10-2007, 12:42 AM
I was asking a question. Where in my post was there a moaning. JFC! people do have the right to express their views and ask questions.

DDrago2
09-10-2007, 12:42 AM
I think what people see as decline, is really a guy who feels so close to breaking Samp's record. Who want's it so bad that his game has gone to the defensive.;)

I think you are spot on. He is less relaxed than before, which produces more defensive and less beautifull matches, but as other posters pointed out it also makes him tougher in critical moment

DDrago2
09-10-2007, 12:44 AM
But I also think his net game is better than ever, he made it as elegant and efficient as the rest of his game

hra87
09-10-2007, 12:46 AM
I don't know, looks like he just peaked early. He normally saves it for the final, this time he peaked against Lopez, then a gradual drop from there.

DDrago2
09-10-2007, 11:51 AM
The proof:


Federer shut out Novak Djokovic 7-6 (7-4) 7-6 (7-2) 6-4 in two hours and 26 minutes to land his 12th career major and then claimed the young Serb's sudden emergence had only given him added motivation in his now-desperate quest to reel in Pete Sampras's all-time record of 14 grand slam titles.

For the first time, Federer openly admitted he was "chasing down Sampras" after surging past Rod Laver and Bjorn Borg into equal second place alongside Roy Emerson on the grand slam leaderboard.

"I think about it a lot now, honestly," Federer said when asked how badly he wanted Sampras's coveted record.

jasmin
09-10-2007, 03:31 PM
Roger made my day and my US Open worthwhile after the ladies whatever...anyhoo...this is big (chasing history). I do think Fed is more nervous inside and not as relaxed for this reason.

FedFan_2007
09-10-2007, 04:38 PM
I think Roger was nervous because it was first time in GS final against Nole - he wanted to make sure he got the upper hand here. That made him too nervous and he played badly. However, now that he's in Nole's head, I anticipate their next final will be all Roger.

The_Nadal_effect
09-10-2007, 04:42 PM
I don't think the next four-five slams(which he would eventually get) will come easily to Roger. But that's just my two cents.

optimism
09-10-2007, 04:50 PM
I think what people see as decline, is really a guy who feels so close to breaking Samp's record. Who want's it so bad that his game has gone to the defensive.;)

I totally agree. Sadly the decline will happen sooner or later though.

the pressure is still mounting and it'll get worse as he paces to break pete's record. He knows that too and that's why he's playing it safe. and it proved to be the right decision as he didn't look that sharp yesterday in that final. it's silly to play risky and aggressive game when you are not feeling the ball too well. the wind wasn't helping either as federer relies so much on timing.

Beforehand
09-10-2007, 04:53 PM
The only thing I see is a guy who's becoming exhausted by his own greatness. What needs to be considered is that Sampras won his 14 slams over the course of 12 years, while Roger may just pile them in over the course of 6 years, and if he gets to 15 next year, he will have won 14 majors in just 5 years. That's going to weigh on anyone, including the best players. I mean, if anyone was playing at the same rate Roger has played the last couple of years for 12 years, they'd have over 25 majors. Certainly when put that way, it could be seen just how much work it has been, whether he's good or not.

Burrow
09-10-2007, 04:57 PM
Your game on court does not go defensive because of breaking records :retard:

How can you say he is playing defensive when he has just won the us open.

Federer has only won the US Open by playing so badly hasn't he? :rolleyes:

Action Jackson
09-10-2007, 05:04 PM
Well he is a superstar, he has to handle the pressure and he won 3 out of 4 Slams again, seems to be going alright in that regard.

I mean some Fed fans panic when he loses a set or worse when he loses serve.

optimism
09-10-2007, 05:05 PM
Your game on court does not go defensive because of breaking records :retard:

How can you say he is playing defensive when he has just won the us open.

Federer has only won the US Open by playing so badly hasn't he? :rolleyes:

to play defensively isn't always bad. It was the right decision i think. He played pretty good defensive games. and right amount of aggression at clutch times.