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BBC - where are you?

Horatio Caine
05-26-2004, 10:33 PM
IF and only IF Tim Henman gets through to the fourth round of the French Open, will the BBC show coverage (preferably live) of his fourth round and possibly subsequent matches at Roland Garros? I think it is scandalous if it doesn't but surely it isn't that difficult to get a camera crew to board a plane and make the 2 hour flight to Paris?

BaselineSmash
05-26-2004, 10:37 PM
There's coverage scheduled for this Sunday 1-3 pm, so it will come down to timing unless the BBC goes out on a limb ( :rolleyes: ) and shows the match anyway, IF it happens.

Horatio Caine
05-26-2004, 10:40 PM
I kind of being a little more optimistic :embarassed: - like coverage for next Tuesday? :haha: I think Tim will probably bomb out by then purely because he is the fancied player but if it comes down to him playing on Tuesday then is it too much to ask that they take off that trash "Diagnosis Murder" and an antiques show and show Henman live on BBC 1?

BaselineSmash
05-26-2004, 10:42 PM
Henman in a French Open quarter-final?

*dies of laughter*

Horatio Caine
05-26-2004, 10:45 PM
u studied the draw?!!!!! it's is not a fantasy, it is actually a possibility!

BaselineSmash
05-26-2004, 11:04 PM
Of course I've seen the draw, and in terms of pure talent I see that Henman should be high-tailing it to the semi-finals, where he would lose valiantly to Coria.

But...I have no confidence in his mentality. Out of all the players in the top ten, he is the one whose psychological fragility is most (frustratingly) evident. It's not remotely acceptable for someone of his advanced years. Every time I watch him on clay, I expect him to get drawn into long rallies, tire out mentally and lose. On those rare occassions where he has genuine oppurtunities e.g. most glaringly against Ferrero last year and Malisse in '02, he has not taken them and has petered out very disappointingly.

It's bad enough watching him at Wimbledon. On clay he is a tragedy. I hope he proves me wrong for the remainder of the fortnight.

jtipson
05-26-2004, 11:05 PM
They won't even show the men's final live (although the women's will be), so I doubt they'd show anything else. Pity though.

athie
05-26-2004, 11:25 PM
Seems to me The BBC only push the boat out for Wimbly. Iíd doubt they can realistically afford to show anymore tennis than they already do.

IF (thatís one mighty big IF) Tim reaches the final Iím sure The BBC would re-schedule but whether it would be from another feed is a different question I guess.

For those of us who have SKY Sports we donít get such a raw deal. Despite not covering every major tournie they do a pretty good job overall and interactive is a God send.

Iíd love to know all the inís and outís of why tennis coverage overall is so diabolical including British Eurosports RG coverage.

Horatio Caine
05-26-2004, 11:37 PM
Baselinesmash - u thought he should have beaten Ferrero at RG last year?!!! :tape: :haha: :haha:

Horatio Caine
05-26-2004, 11:41 PM
IF (thatís one mighty big IF) Tim reaches the final Iím sure The BBC would re-schedule but whether it would be from another feed is a different question I guess.

That is a little too optimistic! IF he manages to negotiate himself through his section of the draw into the semis then he would probably face Coria or Moya and he would stand no chance of beating either, particularly Coria.

athie
05-26-2004, 11:43 PM
That is a little too optimistic! IF he manages to negotiate himself through his section of the draw into the semis then he would probably face Coria or Moya and he would stand no chance of beating either, particularly Coria.

You aint kidding! :)

Horatio Caine
05-26-2004, 11:44 PM
You aint kidding! :)


:haha:

Socket
05-26-2004, 11:55 PM
IF and only IF Tim Henman gets through to the fourth round of the French Open, will the BBC show coverage (preferably live) of his fourth round and possibly subsequent matches at Roland Garros? I think it is scandalous if it doesn't but surely it isn't that difficult to get a camera crew to board a plane and make the 2 hour flight to Paris?

Justify to clarify, there's only one set of cameras on the courts, which belongs to the host broadcaster. The other broadcasters purchase rights to the raw feed. (It would get a little crowded on the court if every broadcaster had its own set of cameras out there.)

athie
05-26-2004, 11:58 PM
Pretty much explains that one then... fanks socket.

Doesn't explain the atrocious coverage overall tho. I guess a host country only gives a rat's bottie about their own players as has been demonstrated at RG.

Horatio Caine
05-27-2004, 12:02 AM
Justify to clarify, there's only one set of cameras on the courts, which belongs to the host broadcaster. The other broadcasters purchase rights to the raw feed. (It would get a little crowded on the court if every broadcaster had its own set of cameras out there.)

Cheers Socket - didn't know anything about that. I guess the chances of Diagnosis Murder being taken off for the delights of Tim toiling on the clay are almost zero!

Horatio Caine
05-27-2004, 12:03 AM
Socket - does the purchase right have to be purchased before the tournament or can a broadcasting station purchase a right to the matches from say the 4th round?

athie
05-27-2004, 12:05 AM
Cheers Socket - didn't know anything about that. I guess the chances of Diagnosis Murder being taken off for the delights of Tim toiling on the clay are almost zero!

hehehe jez! :D

It's either that or Tim getting slashed to death on court.

Socket
05-27-2004, 12:13 AM
Socket - does the purchase right have to be purchased before the tournament or can a broadcasting station purchase a right to the matches from say the 4th round?

I don't know the answer to that, sorry. But I would wonder if a broadcaster might have already commited to show something else during that time slot, and that might be the problem to deciding to pick up a broadcast after the tournament begins. Like when the USA Network has to cut off an exciting match at the US Open because it has a "contractual obligation" to show something else at 6 pm (usually a rerun of some stupid 20-year-old show!).

Horatio Caine
05-27-2004, 12:14 AM
hehehe jez! :D

It's either that or Tim getting slashed to death on court.

Yeah British tennis is doomed - in fact in most areas it has been doomed for quite some time. In fact i think extinct is the better way to put it! :retard: :banghead:

Horatio Caine
05-27-2004, 12:14 AM
I don't know the answer to that, sorry. But I would wonder if a broadcaster might have already commited to show something else during that time slot, and that might be the problem to deciding to pick up a broadcast after the tournament begins. Like when the USA Network has to cut off an exciting match at the US Open because it has a "contractual obligation" to show something else at 6 pm (usually a rerun of some stupid 20-year-old show!).

Would that show be....Diagnosis Murder or Murder she wrote? :haha:

Horatio Caine
05-27-2004, 12:15 AM
...or Father Dowling? :haha:

BaselineSmash
05-27-2004, 12:16 AM
Baselinesmash - u thought he should have beaten Ferrero at RG last year?!!! :tape: :haha: :haha:

Yes! His forehand was great in the first set, and Ferrero was going out of his mind with the slices Henman was dressing every corner of the court with.

It was a typically dire example, in the end, of Henman's inability to sustain his high level. He admitted as much in the post match interview, and I think the tone he established could have been enough had he maintained it. Which he didn't.

Socket
05-27-2004, 12:22 AM
Would that show be....Diagnosis Murder or Murder she wrote? :haha:

Worse: It was something called Walker- Texas Ranger! :haha: :haha:

Ballbuster
05-27-2004, 12:55 AM
I think Henman has a good chance to get to the semi-finals. He won 6 matches at the clay TMSs and he has a good draw. Is chela in his quarter or coria's, because I don't think Henman could beat Chela on clay

Horatio Caine
05-27-2004, 01:03 AM
Worse: It was something called Walker- Texas Ranger! :haha: :haha:

God - i hope that doesn't get shipped here cos we will be doomed! We have now viewed 6 months worth of pensioners banging up criminals! So corny - they could change the intro music too - it makes me laugh everytime! :haha:

Horatio Caine
05-27-2004, 01:07 AM
Yes! His forehand was great in the first set, and Ferrero was going out of his mind with the slices Henman was dressing every corner of the court with.

It was a typically dire example, in the end, of Henman's inability to sustain his high level. He admitted as much in the post match interview, and I think the tone he established could have been enough had he maintained it. Which he didn't.

No way was Henman ever gonna to win that match. I was pleasantly surprised he took the first set! If he'd beaten him then you're effectively saying that he should have won the whole tournament - ludacrious!

Henman was visibly tired after the first set and most people knew that physically he could never keep up in the remainder of the match - it took so much effort to win one point.

That was not a case of Tim cracking, so to speak. The Canas match two years previously was - 5th set - he could have pulled something out of the bag at that point.

Horatio Caine
05-27-2004, 01:21 AM
I think Henman has a good chance to get to the semi-finals. He won 6 matches at the clay TMSs and he has a good draw. Is chela in his quarter or coria's, because I don't think Henman could beat Chela on clay

Henman is seeded to meet Chela in quarters but i'm not discounting Corrteja or Santoro or Mutis to have a good go at him. Besides, Henman has beaten Chela on clay, two years ago when Tim was in his prime before that dreadful shoulder injury.

Tim definitely has a good chance at the semis no doubt about it. This is the chance of a lifetime for him and i hope he makes the quarters given how open his draw is.

Socket
05-27-2004, 01:42 AM
If Henman goes deep at RG, what do you think are the chances of the AELTC ripping out the grass at Wimbledon and replacing it with red clay?? ;) ;) ;)

Horatio Caine
05-27-2004, 01:57 AM
As good as Pat Cash formally apologising to Greg Rusedski about his comments from...well...everything! ;)

Horatio Caine
05-27-2004, 02:00 AM
All i can say is that if they did put clay there then i would be pleading for the BBC to show that rather intriguing "new" (?) Walker Texas - Ranger series that i have yet to have the pleasure of viewing cos that would definite beat a slug - fest between Hewitt and virtually any player on the ATP tour, good and bad! :haha:

It would even beat the pain of seeing Rusedski play another best of 5 sets match on clay, wondering when he;ll win the next point!

Space Cowgirl
05-27-2004, 12:44 PM
But...I have no confidence in his mentality. Out of all the players in the top ten, he is the one whose psychological fragility is most (frustratingly) evident.

I think Rainer could give him a run for his money in a psychological frailty contest!

Anyway, I hope Henman does well

Horatio Caine
05-27-2004, 02:11 PM
I think Rainer could give him a run for his money in a psychological frailty contest!

Anyway, I hope Henman does well

Hmm, I think there is only one winner in that contest at the moment! ;)

tangerine_dream
05-27-2004, 05:08 PM
IF and only IF Tim Henman gets through to the fourth round of the French Open, will the BBC show coverage (preferably live) of his fourth round and possibly subsequent matches at Roland Garros?

Only if Posh and Becks didn't scratch their ass that day. :lol: ;)

Horatio Caine
05-27-2004, 05:26 PM
Only if Posh and Becks didn't scratch their ass that day. :lol: ;)

:haha: :haha: