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This better not be a mistake!

Deboogle!.
05-26-2004, 07:36 PM
:o :mad: :o :mad: :fiery: :fiery:

Andy did an interview with ESPN later after his match, I think oh very nice of him, gracious in loss as always.

But then I hear....

"we'll probably go back to the states for a while before grass..."

uh what????????????????????????

He has Queens in less than two weeks, he has so many points to defend and he's no better off now than he was last year - so much for having the big spring to take pressure off the summer. He needs to get his stupid ass over to London and get happy on the grass NOW!

:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

tangerine_dream
05-26-2004, 07:40 PM
Sounds like bunk needs a hug more than Andy right now ;) :hug:

Deboogle!.
05-26-2004, 07:41 PM
Andy doesn't need a hug, he needs a kick in the ass.

It's a damn good thing I'll be away next week so that I can't know if Andy goes back to the US or not. b/c if I find out he does.... :armed:

andyroxmysox12191
05-26-2004, 07:46 PM
I knew you would say something on this.I was listening to it as well and I was like "you're going back to the US and THEN London?!!" go to London NOW and stay there and practice!

Deboogle!.
05-26-2004, 07:47 PM
:banghead:

tangerine_dream
05-26-2004, 07:50 PM
Andy doesn't need a hug, he needs a kick in the ass.

We can do that. ;)

http://www.mommaville.com/forums/images/smilies/kick.gif

andyroxmysox12191
05-26-2004, 07:51 PM
:haha: :worship: tangy

roxysurf420
05-26-2004, 07:51 PM
Yeah he really needs to work on that little thing called PRACTICE and adapting to the next surface, instead of heading back to the US so he can chill with his little blonde boy toy and eat more pizza, during which Brad will probably sit back, laugh at "the Kid," and tell him to enjoy himself.

Deboogle!.
05-26-2004, 07:53 PM
thank you Tangy!

and yes, roxysurf, exactly. Andy didn't even go back to the US last year after RG, that's when he hired Brad from LONDON.

Fumus
05-26-2004, 07:54 PM
Andy go back to the US with your tail between your legs...

Deboogle!.
05-26-2004, 07:56 PM
No, Andy, go to London and practice on a GRASS COURT.

roxysurf420
05-26-2004, 07:58 PM
Imagine that. So in fact, despite all the talk about improving this year from both Andy and Brad, we are actually preparing less this year than last year... I really hope he chooses to go over to London, at least then he can get a feel for the grass and hopefully do well at Queens again, although at this point I'm not seeing last year happening again in London.

Deboogle!.
05-26-2004, 07:59 PM
yea exactly, and last year won't happen on hardcourt either. Byebye Andy's ranking, maybe this year will be a swift reality check for you and you'll get off your ass and do things right.

Fumus
05-26-2004, 08:01 PM
Nah, Andy has alot this year and I am sure he is not trying to fuck himself Deb, he's just trying to do what's best for himself. What chance did Andy have at winning RG? None, this loss makes him more determined and gives him more time to practice.

tangerine_dream
05-26-2004, 08:01 PM
We could also spank him silly :)

http://www.halocity.org/forums/images/smilies/spank.gif

Or we could kick him in the jimmies too but I don't think that will improve his game much. ;)

http://www.highaltitudeimports.com/images/smilies/nutkick.gif

roxysurf420
05-26-2004, 08:02 PM
Let's hope so, sucks that it takes a year for him to wake up and realize that he's going to have to work for this.

Shy
05-26-2004, 08:02 PM
yea exactly, and last year won't happen on hardcourt either. Byebye Andy's ranking, maybe this year will be a swift reality check for you and you'll get off your ass and do things right.
Coria had not much to defend during grass tournaments and hard court season. So, if he isn't careful, bye bye the no.2. Unless,Roger does very bad during Wimbledon, I don't see how Andy can gain points.

Deboogle!.
05-26-2004, 08:03 PM
I couldn't disagree more. He should have won the match today, then he would've faced a guy who'd played two hugely long 5-setters. he had a GREAT shot at 4th round and that would have been huge for his confidence, his game, his ranking, everything. But no he fucks it up and now he's gonna fuck up the grass season too, where he's defending a 10-1 record.

He'll draw Karlovic in the first round of Queens and then do something to fuck up Wimbledon too.

LCeh
05-26-2004, 08:03 PM
Wait a minute here Deb ;) ... Andy currently has a 1200 point lead in front of Coria, and Coria made the semis of RG, Ferrero won, so if these guys don't make there they will lose major points. Unless they do well in grass court season, Andy should still have a comfortable cushion. It's hard to repeat the summer hard court season run, but he still has a big lead.

Deboogle!.
05-26-2004, 08:05 PM
Coria had not much to defend during grass tournaments and hard court season. So, if he isn't careful, bye bye the no.2. Unless,Roger does very bad during Wimbledon, I don't see how Andy can gain points.

Yes exactly, and this is why I'm so mad. I know Roger will end #1 so I don't care about that because Roger is playing great and deserves it, but Andy had such a great opportunity this clay season and he is coming out of it with even less than last year considering he didn't even play 2 TMSs and didn't defend St. Poelten. And there's just no way he can put in the same kind of Summer hardcourt performance, that's just not realistic, what he did last year was a once-in-a-career type of thing and that's awesome but expecting that again would be absurd.

God I am so mad at him right now.

Deboogle!.
05-26-2004, 08:06 PM
Wait a minute here Deb ;) ... Andy currently has a 1200 point lead in front of Coria, and Coria made the semis of RG, Ferrero won, so if these guys don't make there they will lose major points. Unless they do well in grass court season, Andy should still have a comfortable cushion. It's hard to repeat the summer hard court season run, but he still has a big lead.

I'm not really mad about the points per se I'm mad that Andy's acting like an ass and doesn't seem to see what's going on. Going back to the US instead of getting to London way early to get used to the grass is just about as bad an idea as I've heard in a long time.

Fumus
05-26-2004, 08:06 PM
Lceh with the logic..

tangerine_dream
05-26-2004, 08:07 PM
God I am so mad at him right now.

bunkie's scaring me :scared:

Fumus
05-26-2004, 08:12 PM
You'de think they were friends or atleast people that know each other. Infact one doesn't know the other exists...hmmm....maybe Deb should take some time away from Andy for alittle while..:hug:

Deboogle!.
05-26-2004, 08:15 PM
It's just a bad day. I woke up not feeling well, I haven't eaten anything all day. My *friend* is here to visit, the weather sucks (and I'm one of those people that gets moody when the weather's bad), and Andy acts like an ass. It was just the wrong day for him to do this lol

Fumus
05-26-2004, 08:20 PM
yea me too. Deb, I am a long time sports fan. I have been watching sports since I was a kid. I love the Tampa Bay Bucs but, growing up they always lost. This season they lost alot. It was hard, my whole week would suck when they did and when I followed the games, I lived and died with every down. You can't do that, it's too frustrating, you let it go and root for your 2nd and 3rd stringers. For me it's Hewitt, Grosjean and Fed, in respective order. You'll feel better, and just remember even Tampa won a super-bowl but, they had to loose alot to do it.

Fumus
05-26-2004, 08:20 PM
haha, I did that on purpose...lose!

J. Corwin
05-26-2004, 08:22 PM
I won't mind Andy fucking up Queens as long as he wins Wimbledon. ;)

Of course they're going to hype Andy up for being a favortie at Wimbledon, blah blah... oy

Fumus
05-26-2004, 08:24 PM
yea I don't mind the right hype.

Deboogle!.
05-26-2004, 08:46 PM
well no wonder he wants to go home he just doesnt sound excited about the grass season at all.

I think this is gonna be a long summer for him.

Havok
05-26-2004, 08:50 PM
:retard: go to London you fuckface, and work on grass. you'll have a HUGE upper hand on everyone with all the extra practice on grass there

LCeh
05-26-2004, 08:55 PM
Andy plays fair so he begins practice when others begin theirs. ;)

Deboogle!.
05-26-2004, 08:56 PM
:retard: go to London you fuckface, and work on grass. you'll have a HUGE upper hand on everyone with all the extra practice on grass there

Exactly. You should send this to brad :worship:

sagroove
05-26-2004, 09:07 PM
to quote roddick, "we'll probably go back to the states for a while before grass..."

What an idiot. He is obviously not serious. What is it gonna take? Another poor performance at a grand slam? He will end up going to Austin with his squeeze and just live a week of debauchery with her and eat poorly and not train then expect to go to UK and contend at Wimbledon? What a joke!
Brad Gilbert better light some fire under roddick's ass NOW!!!!

damn he pisses me off!

Deboogle!.
05-26-2004, 10:09 PM
Well Brad and Andy clearly didn't even talk after his match and before they both went on Tv. I just rewound further and saw what Brad said and he didn't seem so sure about what they were doing. Problem is, if he just lets Andy do whatever he wants and doesn't advise him that going home is a bad idea, that's what he'll do. It's not like home is in Germany or wherever, pond-hopping is a horribly tiring thing and he's already done it too many times and he just needs to go to London and regroup there not at home. Part of growing and becoming a true champion is getting through the hard stuff. IMO going home AGAIN would be taking the easy way out.

BaselineSmash
05-26-2004, 10:36 PM
You'll just have to face up to it people -Roddick's enjoying his life too much at the moment to push himself on court. Quite a shocking waste of talent, no doubt, but at least you have Ginepri, Fish, Spadea, Blake...Somewhat stronger than Latvia's reserve of players, I think you'll find.

roxysurf420
05-26-2004, 11:22 PM
at least you have Ginepri, Fish, Spadea, Blake...Somewhat stronger than Latvia's reserve of players, I think you'll find.

Hahah let's hope so. I think BG will try and persuade him to go straight to London actually, so let's wait and see.

Deboogle!.
05-26-2004, 11:28 PM
Considering how much talent all those guys have and how little most of them have done, I don't know how positive it is lol. But ok I'll give you that it's stronger than Latvia lol. I hope Mardy will come back and make a splash on grass, I think he's the most talented of them all.

and roxy, I really hope you are right. Sometimes I wonder that Brad lets andy just do whatever he wants even if it's not what's best for him. I know I know Andy is a big boy and can make his own decisions but the whole point of employing a coach and paying them a 6-figure salary is that they know more than you do :)

Havok
05-27-2004, 12:01 AM
You'll just have to face up to it people -Roddick's enjoying his life too much at the moment to push himself on court. Quite a shocking waste of talent, no doubt, but at least you have Ginepri, Fish, Spadea, Blake...Somewhat stronger than Latvia's reserve of players, I think you'll find.
he isn't a waste of talent. He's still winning big titles, and doing well at the slams, etc. Yeah he's a total fuckhead on clay :retard: but a player who's a total waste of talent is Safin, or Rios, or some other player. Andy still tries out there, maybe now he's just hit a rough patch mentaly, but I expect (or I guess hope) that he'll go to London now and train on the grass to be prepared

Carito_90
05-27-2004, 12:32 AM
OMG Andy's such an ass!
He quits 2 TMS, the only TMC that he plays he looses on R1, looses horribly bad on R2 in RG and now instead of going to London and practise for the grass season to catch up with the points, no, he decides to go to the US to spend.. what? 4 days? there. Pathetic Andy, totally pathetic.
I'm wondering if this blondie has something to do with his desition.. maybe she wants to go back there before going to London, she wants to see her family blah blah blah... who knows.

Even if so, Andy's been dissapointing me a lot these last weeks. He's making me really really mad... he really needs a kick on the ass.

Ballbuster
05-27-2004, 12:41 AM
Actually, I think Andy plays two much tennis, i kinda think he's chasing money like a certain Russian I won't name. Between the Indian wells TMS and AusOpen, he played davis cup, san jose, memphis, and scottsdale. Way too much tennis, he should have just done davis cup and memphis

roxysurf420
05-27-2004, 12:58 AM
and roxy, I really hope you are right. Sometimes I wonder that Brad lets andy just do whatever he wants even if it's not what's best for him. I know I know Andy is a big boy and can make his own decisions but the whole point of employing a coach and paying them a 6-figure salary is that they know more than you do
Yeah Brad was great for him last summer, but either he has loosened up considerably lately or they just aren't good for each other anymore, i don't know. I sincerely hope this is just a bout of bad luck, and that this summer we'll see the kick ass Roddick we love.

Havok
05-27-2004, 01:07 AM
Actually, I think Andy plays two much tennis, i kinda think he's chasing money like a certain Russian I won't name. Between the Indian wells TMS and AusOpen, he played davis cup, san jose, memphis, and scottsdale. Way too much tennis, he should have just done davis cup and memphis
:lol: Andy isn't chasing money. Not only does he make a lot of money on court, but he makes loads of money off court in endorsement deals and sponsorship deals. HE doesn't really spend a whole lot of his money, and I doubt he's chasing more money. you don't get money for davis cup:) and playing 3 tournaments before a TMS isn't a heck of a lot, but he should have cut one of them *coughs* scottsdale*coughs*

Deboogle!.
05-27-2004, 01:10 AM
Yeah Brad was great for him last summer, but either he has loosened up considerably lately or they just aren't good for each other anymore, i don't know. I sincerely hope this is just a bout of bad luck, and that this summer we'll see the kick ass Roddick we love.

Well I think you had that freshness that they got right away. I mean it was evident right away. is it a coincidence that their first week working together Andy was finally able to beat Andre? Maybe but I doubt it. Brad had an immediate mental influence on him but now time has passed and they've gotta find ways to keep the relationship - both professional and personal - fresh and new and effective and successful. Obviously they did a lot of great things early in the season. His backhand is beyond visibly better, as is his volleying/commitment to coming in. He's also improved his returning significantly and though he didn't show it AT ALL today, he's mixing up his serve better than ever. So obviously things are happening.

It's more the mental stuff that he showed last summer, particularly in the matches at the USO against Ljubicic and Nalbandian, that seem to have disappeared a little, and I hope he can find that like NOW.

Havok
05-27-2004, 01:11 AM
Yeah Brad was great for him last summer, but either he has loosened up considerably lately or they just aren't good for each other anymore, i don't know. I sincerely hope this is just a bout of bad luck, and that this summer we'll see the kick ass Roddick we love.
I doubt they're a wrong fit for eachother. Andy's low point has always been the clay season. Look at his match record on the hardcourts this year, he's still a top player on surfaces other than clay, so don't look too much into these past couple months. now that we're heading to grass, he'll pick it up big time:cool:

Deboogle!.
05-27-2004, 01:12 AM
you better be right Naldo, you better be right.

Havok
05-27-2004, 01:15 AM
Don't worry :cool: big serve+ big forehand on grass=lethal :banana:

LCeh
05-27-2004, 01:15 AM
Don't be so worry Deb! You already said it yourself, he is making huge visibly improvements, and obviously he is gonna get better, so why are you worried? ;)

Deboogle!.
05-27-2004, 01:16 AM
yes but only if he wants to bring his A game with his new volleying ability and actually execute. if hes not mentally there the rest is irrelevant.

Deboogle!.
05-27-2004, 01:18 AM
Don't be so worry Deb! You already said it yourself, he is making huge visibly improvements, and obviously he is gonna get better, so why are you worried? ;)

um.... because I ALWAYS worry? :haha:

Seriously, it's easier for me to worry about Tennis and Andy. in a couple months I'll be making the biggest move and the biggest changes in my life so far and I'm 100% cool about that. Andy loses a match and I freak out and go postal. It's the way I displace the stress.

roxysurf420
05-27-2004, 01:18 AM
Yeah i just really hope he goes to London so that he can continue his match record. Otherwise, he will get to London when the other players arrive, most of whom will have gotten more practice at RG than Andy, he'll be jet lagged, he'll still have those pizza pies in his system, and he won't have an edge, an edge that can easily be obtained if he goes NOW instead of going back to Austin.

Deboogle!.
05-27-2004, 01:20 AM
Amen roxysurf, amen.

roxysurf420
05-27-2004, 01:20 AM
Seriously, it's easier for me to worry about Tennis and Andy. in a couple months I'll be making the biggest move and the biggest changes in my life so far and I'm 100% cool about that. Andy loses a match and I freak out and go postal. It's the way I displace the stress.

LMFAO lol
I do that too.

Deboogle!.
05-27-2004, 01:23 AM
well I'm glad I'm not the only psycho one:)

I mean seriously when I was opening law school acceptance/rejection letters, I was cool as a cucumber. Andy goes 0-30 on a service game and I start swearing and freaking out. I really am nuts. but I admit it fully.

roxysurf420
05-27-2004, 01:24 AM
Oh wow, where are you going? I'm pre law at Tulane right now.

Deboogle!.
05-27-2004, 01:27 AM
somewhere to CA, I'm going out there next week to decide on a school. but it's gonna be a smaller kind of unknown place I think.

I got into Tulane law.. but well... I just don't want to live in New Orleans lol. I don't even know why I applied there really. :scratch:

Mr. Man
05-27-2004, 01:28 AM
Well I was pissed. Now I am not. I think we all know Andy wasn't gonna go far on clay.

Andy for Wimbledon! *chants*

roxysurf420
05-27-2004, 01:28 AM
Yeah i can understand that, most people either love New Orleans or they hate it.

Havok
05-27-2004, 01:33 AM
Well I was pissed. Now I am not. I think we all know Andy wasn't gonna go far on clay.

Andy for Wimbledon! *chants*
:drive: There's lost of green there :cool:

Mr. Man
05-27-2004, 01:36 AM
:drive: There's lost of green there :cool:
Yeah. -tear- Oh welll....

Deboogle!.
05-27-2004, 02:31 AM
Yeah i can understand that, most people either love New Orleans or they hate it.

Yea... and I unfortunately saw it for the first time in July.... so yea, no way I could live there lol. Plus I really WANT to be in CA.

Anyway... no Mr. Man no one thought he could go far. and like I said in the other thread, if he went out just being outplayed by someone who is just a good clay-courter, then I'd have been a little sad, sure, but that was what I expected. I did not expect andy to blow all the various leads he had by playing like a :retard: and for his serve to let him down and for him to barely escape a bagel in the final set, etc etc etc. That's why I'm upset, not because he lost in it of itself. I mean he had an incredible chance to make the Round of 16 for the first time, which would have been huge for him in several ways, considering his R32 opponent would've been a guy who played the longest match in history over 2 days and then didn't really get a day off before he had to play another 5-setter, I mean Andy would've had pretty damn good chance for that match. But whatever, it didn't happen. It just sort of adds to the disappointment, and clearly for Andy too.

Luckily the grass season comes right away and it's quick so if he sucks monkey balls there too the pain will be over quickly. And at least I think I still have enough faith in him to believe that there's no way, barring injury or illness or other extenuating circumstance, that he'll suck at the US hardcourt season.

J. Corwin
05-28-2004, 01:28 AM
It's confirmed that Andy will return to the States first but oh well.

Deboogle!.
05-28-2004, 01:59 AM
yea Naldo told us in another thread... :mad: :fiery: I hope it doesn't prove to be a big mistake. As I was telling carito on MSN, I keep going back and forth between the angry "omg they are so stupid wtf are the doing" and the concerned "they'd never do this unless there was seriously something he really has to go home for".....

J. Corwin
05-28-2004, 02:04 AM
We will never know if it's a good move or not. We'll just have to wait and see how he performs at Queens and Wimbledon. For all we know, he could win both, and then tadah! *boing boing boing*

You're like a very concerned sister of Andy's. :)

Deboogle!.
05-28-2004, 02:06 AM
:)

really, I just need something else to do LMFAO.... I'm just bored and have nothing else to worry about :p

star
05-28-2004, 03:34 AM
When do you leave for the coast?

Deboogle!.
05-28-2004, 03:37 AM
Monday:)

star
05-28-2004, 03:45 AM
So you are just one big bundle of anticipation now.

I hope your decision is an easy one.

J. Corwin
05-28-2004, 04:18 AM
*might head to SF on Wednesday.....* ;)

Deboogle!.
05-28-2004, 01:31 PM
*sigh*

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Team Roddick Returns Stateside
by: staff, AR.com


5/28/2004 --

On Thursday, Team Roddick returned again from Europe back to the United States. Andy will be spending the weekend in Austin before traveling to the bay area for a week of practice with Coach Gilbert.

Unfortunately, due to this decision, Andy will not be present to accept his award at the upcoming ITF Champions Dinner in Paris. This ceremony will acknowledge the best players in the world for 2003. As Andy finished the year #1, he is to be awarded Best Player.

Close friends and Davis Cup teammates, Mike and Bob Bryan will be present to accept their award for being the world's top Doubles team.

Havok
05-28-2004, 03:04 PM
WTF he's missing his award. WHAT A FUCKFACE, that's a slap in the face to the ITF award dudes, he's such a fuckin retard. He could have at least stayed till the award. Andy :fiery:

Deboogle!.
05-28-2004, 03:08 PM
When's the ceremony though? I wouldn't expect him to stick around an extra few days for that. But yea it is pretty shitty of him.

Plus, a whole week at Brad's??? That means he won't get to London til right before Queens and I just can't see how that's a good idea!

and he is going to AUSTIN not Florida :o well at least it's only for a weekend.

There better be a fucking grass court where Brad lives. Are there even any grass courts anywhere in the US except at Westside and Newport? lol....

Havok
05-28-2004, 03:15 PM
I think it's during the week-end. It's not that hard to stick around for an extra 3 days in Paris. I mean you don't have to go to Rg and watch the matches, just enjoy the city. Then get your ass to London and practice for a week. I mean it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the best possible route:retard:

Deboogle!.
05-28-2004, 03:21 PM
oh ok I thought it might've been at the end of the tourney or something. If it was just this weekend then he's a :retard: and deserves a :smash: for going home. Makes my indecision between being really pissed at him and really worried about him even more difficult :/

tangerine_dream
05-28-2004, 03:40 PM
I don't think it's right he not show up to accept the Best Player award. Who knows how long it'll be before he's No. 1 again? :rolleyes:

I'm sure Brad has a grasscourt in his backyard that they will be practicing on, though. Andy probably feels a lot more comfortable in Britain than France so he won't need to go to England so early to get settled.

Deboogle!.
05-28-2004, 04:07 PM
grasscourt in his backyard?? Why would he have that? LOL It's not exactly easy to maintain a grasscourt, I'd be shocked if Brad has one of his own. The thing is too, that it's not just getting used to grass, it's getting used to your surroundings and conditions. That's why they went to Paris SO early even though they were practicing on red clay in Florida. There are other intangibles, getting used to your bed, getting over the jetlag, getting used to the food and the water and the weather.

Havok
05-28-2004, 04:16 PM
it's not that hard getting used to the conditions there, especially when you won the event, you're pretty comfy there. And they speak english there, which makes him even more confortable. HE doesn't need that much practice on the grass, but it woulda been nice to be there like 4 days in advance. Before he really needed the full 2 weeks at London on grass because he just fired Tarik and had to get used to Brad as his new coach. He's been coached by Brad for 1 year now, they don't need the time to get used to eachother anymore. And besides, if you don't work on your mental side, then there's no use busting your ass on the practice courts because with a shit mind, you won't win. That's what I think they're working on in the US, getting him mentally prepared, and I guess getting away from the clay (or Europe in general, which i don't agree on:( but anyways) will help him clear his mind and focus better. I dunno, im just trying to look at the brighter side of things, must put on my shades though my eyes are hurting from all this brightness :cool:

Deboogle!.
05-28-2004, 04:18 PM
I dunno, im just trying to look at the brighter side of things, must put on my shades though my eyes are hurting from all this brightness :cool:

LOL!!!!!!!!! That was classic.

And I hope you're right. Thanks for making me feel better :hug: :smooch:

J. Corwin
05-28-2004, 08:19 PM
I believe Andy will be more confident on grass...and confidence says a lot. At the top level, that's 50% of the battle/game right there.

Deboogle!.
05-28-2004, 08:59 PM
well he certainly *should* be. Whether he'll actually feel it is another story I suppose. But considering he had one of the best grass seasons last year and his one loss came to the person who had THE best grass season, he should certainly feel pretty confident, especially considering how much better he volleys!!

J. Corwin
05-28-2004, 09:07 PM
Don't jinx his volleys! Sometimes they're fantastic...sometimes they're crud. ;)

Deboogle!.
05-28-2004, 09:11 PM
yes, but sometimes good and sometimes crud is better than always crud ;)

Plus he's willing to serve volley more, which is where I think he'd be especially helped on grass. One would hope that his week at Brad's practicing will be working especially hard on volleys and approaches/transition??? Then again one would hope that he stayed in Paris to accept his award and then go right to London but yea. I've gotta be confident in Andy about something... volleying seems appealing right now LOL

J. Corwin
05-28-2004, 10:44 PM
Yea, on grass Andy should be able to put away shots after a volley or two. Not like on clay where his opponent will get much more chance at passing. Andy played well on the baseline on grass last year too. ;)

Only thing that I can see Andy being hurt slightly is that HE himself has to return the more difficult-to-return serves on grass.

Deboogle!.
05-28-2004, 10:49 PM
well isn't it just swell that he's improved his return a lot too ;)

J. Corwin
05-28-2004, 11:18 PM
Won't help much against Roger. :p He doesn't seem to be able to read his serves well at all.

J. Corwin
05-28-2004, 11:19 PM
But this time they won't be able to meet until the final....dun dun dun

Deboogle!.
05-28-2004, 11:34 PM
well yea.... I'm thinkin' about Queens first ;) cuz if he doesn't do well there he'll have practically no match play since April so there'd be no Wimby final lol

heya
05-28-2004, 11:37 PM
His serve should be less complicated.
IMO, it resembles an overhead.
His serves/overheads are risky, and the wind/rainy weather/glare from the sun make the difference between winning & losing a match. Serve variety helps him no matter where he plays 'cuz there'd be fewer double faults/less fatigue.

I haven't seen a consistent transition game for 7 months. He's always behind the baseline, carelessly aiming for the lines.

What volleys did he have? You mean those that sit up real high and never stick?
The best volleyer can't hit at 140 mph & think the ball comes back slowly.
Much slower speeds are better. Too bad Paul Annacone isn't coaching him.

His body's too heavy. He needs quick legs & thinner arms so he can control volleys/drop shots.
Andy isn't returning/running as fast as last year.
He can't expect opponents to struggle.
His serve's not that hard to return on clay/grass/carpet. It's not that intimidating on hardcourt if the opponent can return well.

Havok
05-28-2004, 11:46 PM
His serve's not that hard to return on clay/grass/carpet.
ok come on Heya, Andy's serve is easy to return on grass/carpet :retard: 2 of the fastest surfaces you can play on in tennis and you say people return his serve with ease on it?:lol:

Dirk
05-28-2004, 11:59 PM
His serve and forehand took him to the semis last year. He could win it. I place him number two behind Roger.

Deboogle!.
05-29-2004, 12:08 AM
ok come on Heya, Andy's serve is easy to return on grass/carpet :retard: 2 of the fastest surfaces you can play on in tennis and you say people return his serve with ease on it?:lol:

I watched last year's Queens SF against Andre last night - Andy had like 27 aces :haha:

heya
05-29-2004, 12:22 AM
Considering how easy it was to lose at Wimbledon, if I were him, I wouldn't let a Fed/Henman stand far back to block the huge serve.
Hit 85 mph, then 130 mph... U know it's harder to return a low bouncing ball.
If he hits the corner, it can be returned back at his feet & he might lose serve.
Volley only when the guy has no time to hit a winner.
How many times did he go down 15-40?!
It's predictable if he just hit the same speeds/places.
They scout him, so they have plans before playing him.

He better concentrate on drop shots/angle shots.
He almost lost at Queen's Club in the 3rd set when he was down 4-2.
We know what happened in Paris/Madrid/AO/Indian Wells & Rome/RG, not to mention other events.

Ballbuster
05-29-2004, 12:35 AM
bunk do you have tapes of a lot of matches or are you watching the tennis channel?

J. Corwin
05-29-2004, 12:45 AM
bunk do you have tapes of a lot of matches or are you watching the tennis channel?

Probably a combo of tapes...and RO. ;)

I have probably close to 200 tapes, with 500+ matches.

Deboogle!.
05-29-2004, 02:18 AM
bunk do you have tapes of a lot of matches or are you watching the tennis channel?

I got the Queens match off Ebay, but it's one of the only ones I have.