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Spadea: RG an "afterthought"

croat123
05-26-2004, 07:22 PM
he's sour. he basically said that the clay court season is unimportant :rolleyes:

Horatio Caine
05-26-2004, 07:23 PM
He is just a bad loser - best to ignore those sorts of people :)

Sjengster
05-26-2004, 07:24 PM
What, an afterthought in terms of the Slams or an afterthought in terms of the clay season? Either way it's incredibly dumb and does smack of sour grapes, but I was just wondering. You're right Vinny, the clay season is unimportant when you're so poor during it that you have to scrape out a win vs one French journeyman and then get soundly thrashed by another.

BaselineSmash
05-26-2004, 07:25 PM
Spadea is not nearly good enough a player to come out with arrogant comments like this.

Horatio Caine
05-26-2004, 07:26 PM
I don't know how he expected to win that match anyway - he played badly in the first round and was LUCKY to survive that match. Benneteau was just blatantly going to beat him. An "accident" waiting to happen.

MisterQ
05-26-2004, 07:27 PM
It was in response to a question --- I believe he was discussing why the Americans don't often do well on clay, and he said that our focus tends to be on Wimbledon and the U.S. Open, and not much attention is given to the clay tournaments. There is some truth to this.

Personally I didn't interpret it as sour grapes.

Sjengster
05-26-2004, 07:30 PM
I don't know how he expected to win that match anyway - he played badly in the first round and was LUCKY to survive that match. Benneteau was just blatantly going to beat him. An "accident" waiting to happen.

Jeanpierre. ;)

Hmm, that does sound different Q. He's right about that fact, provided he didn't say it was the right thing to do.

Horatio Caine
05-26-2004, 07:31 PM
He's probably still bitter though - his draw was open to the 4th round and maybe the QF. He probably hurts from missing that opportunity.

Socket
05-26-2004, 07:38 PM
It was in response to a question --- I believe he was discussing why the Americans don't often do well on clay, and he said that our focus tends to be on Wimbledon and the U.S. Open, and not much attention is given to the clay tournaments. There is some truth to this.

Personally I didn't interpret it as sour grapes.

Is this interview posted somewhere? I don't see it on the website.

croat123
05-26-2004, 07:41 PM
it was an espn interview

he said that rg was an afterthought after the other grand slams because american players focus on hardcourts

MisterQ
05-26-2004, 07:41 PM
It was a brief discussion on ESPN with Chris Fowler and Vince, and I believe Pat McEnroe was there too.

Horatio Caine
05-26-2004, 07:42 PM
Jeanpierre. ;)

Hmm, that does sound different Q. He's right about that fact, provided he didn't say it was the right thing to do.

Oooops!! My mistake! They're all french anyway! :) He was going to lose to Jeanpierre anyway!

tangerine_dream
05-26-2004, 08:04 PM
It was in response to a question --- I believe he was discussing why the Americans don't often do well on clay, and he said that our focus tends to be on Wimbledon and the U.S. Open, and not much attention is given to the clay tournaments. There is some truth to this.

Personally I didn't interpret it as sour grapes.


The press is acting as though the American men have been sucking on clay forever. This new generation is the first we've had in a while that hasn't had good results on euro clay.

J. Corwin
05-26-2004, 08:17 PM
Vince also said that Jeanpierre should win the next round because he beat Vince Spadea. :lol:

Socket
05-26-2004, 08:19 PM
it was an espn interview

he said that rg was an afterthought after the other grand slams because american players focus on hardcourts

Thanks. Wish RG would put more interviews up on their website.

Vince is right to a degree. It wasn't that many years ago that America had some pretty good claycourters, but once the USTA got heavily involved in player development, it stopped. Maybe we need to go back to the days when Nick Bollettieri actually produced claycourters at his factory in Florida.

CooCooCachoo
05-26-2004, 08:20 PM
He actually said, before RG, that he was enjoying the European clay court events and that he was looking forward to doing well. Now, that's really not compatible is it.

¿esquímaux?
05-26-2004, 09:35 PM
Yup, Vince is right! RG (clay in general) is an afterthought....in terms of American tennis that is. American tennis focuses heavily on hardcourts which isn't a bad thing. Different geographical regions focus on different surfaces. Case in point, the clay courters who skip Wimbledon or the USOpen each year consider those tournaments afterthoughts, no?

Socket
05-26-2004, 10:03 PM
Yup, Vince is right! RG (clay in general) is an afterthought....in terms of American tennis that is. American tennis focuses heavily on hardcourts which isn't a bad thing. Different geographical regions focus on different surfaces. Case in point, the clay courters who skip Wimbledon or the USOpen each year consider those tournaments afterthoughts, no?

Who was it, Sanchez Vicario, who said that "grass is for cows?" :)

YoursTruly
05-26-2004, 10:11 PM
I guess this is one area of his personality that people are talking about! But he's still a great player, however I think the grinding has taken its toll on him...for now. Haha. :D But he should keep the sour graping to himself! :tape:

Leo
05-26-2004, 10:13 PM
You misunderstood. Spadea said that for the American media, American tennis fans, and even some American players (not including himself), Roland Garros is an afterthought compared to Wimbledon and the US Open. He said that's the way most Americans are brought up to believe and the American players aren't bred for clay court tennis, but rather to succeed on the grass courts of London or hard courts of New York. And that's absolutely correrct. He didn't say that he or the rest of the tour agrees with this, he was simply stating the facts.

WF4EVER
05-26-2004, 11:54 PM
he's sour. he basically said that the clay court season is unimportant :rolleyes:

But what? He couldn't turn down that HUGE appearance fee? :rolleyes:

WyveN
05-27-2004, 12:35 AM
Spadea is correct, it is an afterthought to most Americans - fans & players as most of them got no chance of even making quarter finals.

CooCooCachoo
05-27-2004, 06:31 AM
But what? He couldn't turn down that HUGE appearance fee?

LOL ;)

Deboogle!.
05-27-2004, 06:10 PM
I saw this interview, and Leo that's how I interpreted it as well. In Andy's press conference he was asked a similar question and seemed to be offended by it, yet none of the Americans have really proven otherwise. Granted, a couple of them were injured and didn't play most of the season and a couple others had poor seasons due to other kinds of circumstances but even if they were all healthy and played all the events I don't think the results would've been all that terribly different. oh and esquimax I totally agree with what you said but I think it's too bad. A lot of these guys can play well on all surfaces and it's disappointing to see some of them ignore clay or grass or whatever.

And tangy, that's not really true. Agassi did manage to win RG but clay is still by far his worst surface. And other than that only Chang and Courier won on clay, and their games are very very different from the offensive aggressive gamestyles of people like Andy, Mardy, Taylor and many of the other younger American players too. But Pete, Jimmy, Johnny, they never won RG and they're all still regarded as among the best players ever and as long as these young guys see that and think it's ok, they don't really have the motivation to do any better I guess :o