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Gay marriage for a day in Iowa

Bremen
09-01-2007, 10:21 AM
This is a step in the right direction:

Gay couple in Iowa marries

But judge puts hold on other weddings

September 1, 2007

ASSOCIATED PRESS

DES MOINES, Iowa -- Sean Fritz snapped his cell phone shut Friday and turned to his partner. He shouted an address and sprinted toward a car.

"Let's go."

The race to get married was on. If he and Tim McQuillan were going to say "I do," it had to be done before a judge issued a stay of his hours-old order tossing out Iowa's ban on same-sex marriage.
With a few relatives gathered on the front lawn of the Rev. Mark Stringer, they were married.

"This is a legal document and you are married," said Stringer, a pastor of the First Unitarian Church of Des Moines.

The Ames men kissed and hugged. "This is it. We're married. I love you," Fritz told McQuillan. But it became official only after they got the completed license to the courthouse.

Just two hours after the ceremony, the window of opportunity closed when District Court Judge Robert Hanson issued a stay of his Thursday order, halting the acceptance of same-sex marriage license applications while the case is appealed to the Iowa Supreme Court.

That left Fritz and McQuillan as the only same-sex couple legally wed in Iowa on Friday.

No more same-sex marriages will be recognized, and no more applications accepted, pending the county's appeal of Hanson's ruling, County Attorney John Sarcone said. Hanson, ruling in a case filed by six same-sex couples who were denied marriage licenses in 2005, declared the law unconstitutional Thursday.

The marriage license approval process normally takes three business days, but Fritz and McQuillan took advantage of a loophole that allows couples to skip the waiting period if they pay $5 and get a judge to sign a waiver.

Other couples, even those who got an early start Friday, were out of luck. Katy Farlow and Larissa Boeck, students at Iowa State University, got their application in but didn't get their license.

The flurry of activity in the courts prompted a quick response from some lawmakers. House Republican leader Christopher Rants called on Democrats, who hold a majority of seats in the Legislature, to respond.

"The Democrats should call a special session immediately to take up such issues and to introduce a marriage amendment for Iowa's constitution," he said.

mtw
09-01-2007, 10:46 AM
Is it true that this republican, american congressmen, which wanted to **** or have sex with a handsome american policeman in toilette will marry there?

Sofonda Cox
09-01-2007, 10:50 AM
Is it true that this republican, american congressmen, which wanted to **** or have sex with a handsome american policeman in toilette will marry there?

i think you're getting confused with George Michael :tape:

SloKid
09-01-2007, 11:30 AM
i think you're getting confused with George Michael :tape:
Republican senator from Idaho Larry Craig was arrested for that last week. :p
Obviously a George Michael copycat. :sad:

Sofonda Cox
09-01-2007, 11:45 AM
Republican senator from Idaho Larry Craig was arrested for that last week. :p
Obviously a George Michael copycat. :sad:

in that case he's pretty dumb :lol:

i can see the advantages of casual sex with strangers - but in a toilet along with being a senator.....:o it would be such a turn off if someone was taking a dump in the next cubicle, unless thats his kind of thing

Andre♥
09-01-2007, 01:43 PM
Republican senator from Idaho Larry Craig was arrested for that last week. :p
Obviously a George Michael copycat. :sad:

Really? :haha: x10000

Haute
09-02-2007, 05:06 AM
You'd think that people would realize how much money could flow into the economy with gay marriage being legalized.

Louche
09-02-2007, 05:20 AM
Is it true that this republican, american congressmen, which wanted to **** or have sex with a handsome american policeman in toilette will marry there?

No, he is married to a woman already (he married one of his office people) and adopted her 3 children.

He would be in trouble for bigamy as well as soliciting. :rolleyes:

mtw
09-02-2007, 06:46 AM
i think you're getting confused with George Michael :tape:

No, it was senator Craig. I consider wheather he will marry this policeman or not. It would be very nice of him.
Besides it is not the first republican, who of this type. It seems that many of these people are usual scum or maybe unusual scum. It was given in american TV. Some examples: a republican, who was involved in illegal weapon trade, other republican, who traded in cocaine, the next republican, who glorified family life having 10 mistress on the side. An of course on the top their big chef: alcoholic and genocide in one person. Are american values? Killing of people and diverse crimes.

Jim Jones
09-02-2007, 01:20 PM
Is it true that this republican, american congressmen, which wanted to **** or have sex with a handsome american policeman in toilette will marry there?

The policeman was far from being handsome. He was a crook who wanted his 15 min. fame. As for the senatior he did the right thing to resign. Just like the Democrat New Jersey governor who had his own experience that came out. He too was given the boot.

Glad to see you find men handsome though. ;)

MusicMyst
09-02-2007, 10:30 PM
You'd think that people would realize how much money could flow into the economy with gay marriage being legalized.

Like gay wedding planners and such? :confused:

Scotso
09-03-2007, 03:03 AM
There are lots of expenses related to weddings. People spend tons of money on lots of things for them, so yes, it would be a benefit to the economy.

But it would also hurt governmental income because married couples pay less in taxes. We should get rid of that. And if we don't, then they need to make gay marriage legal because it violates the equal protection laws to force people to pay two different levels of taxation.

Scotso
09-03-2007, 03:04 AM
No, it was senator Craig. I consider wheather he will marry this policeman or not. It would be very nice of him.
Besides it is not the first republican, who of this type. It seems that many of these people are usual scum or maybe unusual scum. It was given in american TV. Some examples: a republican, who was involved in illegal weapon trade, other republican, who traded in cocaine, the next republican, who glorified family life having 10 mistress on the side. An of course on the top their big chef: alcoholic and genocide in one person. Are american values? Killing of people and diverse crimes.

Just as we are not pleased that foreigners would use these few examples to define all Americans, I'm sure Poles are horrified at the thought that we might use you as an example to define all Poles.

Louche
09-03-2007, 04:00 AM
There are lots of expenses related to weddings.

More money for lawyers, accountants, estate planners, tax people and on and on.

Here in MA, Fed. gov't doesn't recognize marriage, of course, but state does. I believe it results in having to fill out a "dummy" Fed. return in order to complete the state return. Complicated.

There have also been divorces. More money to be made there, as well.

mtw
09-03-2007, 03:02 PM
Just as we are not pleased that foreigners would use these few examples to define all Americans, I'm sure Poles are horrified at the thought that we might use you as an example to define all Poles.

Many Poles are worst that I am. I am not the worst Pole in the world.
Besides there are not few examples. How do you think? Are your politicians so dirty and corrupted? And nation is clean and wonderful. It is total bs. And nobody from your clean, naive nation known it by the vote that something is wrong? Maybe your nation knew it and it satisfies your people ( killing of people, tortures, violance, lawlessness, harming of others). That's why this man, who destroyed 2 states, decimated people there won elections for 2 terms of office. Your nation is not so holly as you think of yourselves. Besides nobody in this world think that you are good people. What good did you do exactly? Nothing.

mtw
09-03-2007, 03:06 PM
The policeman was far from being handsome. He was a crook who wanted his 15 min. fame. As for the senatior he did the right thing to resign. Just like the Democrat New Jersey governor who had his own experience that came out. He too was given the boot.

Glad to see you find men handsome though. ;)

He was not crook. He cought a criminal and very well? Did he keep it secret? Very well that you have so just, wonderful policemen in your state, who try to reveal even hidden crimes. Congratulations. I hope that your nation is proud of this brave man.

Sofonda Cox
09-03-2007, 03:20 PM
Many Poles are worst that I am. I am not the worst Pole in the world.
Besides there are not few examples. How do you think? Are your politicians so dirty and corrupted? And nation is clean and wonderful. It is total bs. And nobody from your clean, naive nation known it by the vote that something is wrong? Maybe your nation knew it and it satisfies your people ( killing of people, tortures, violance, lawlessness, harming of others). That's why this man, who destroyed 2 states, decimated people there won elections for 2 terms of office. Your nation is not so holly as you think of yourselves. Besides nobody in this world think that you are good people. What good did you do exactly? Nothing.

:lol: :help:

so what has America done to Poland recently that you don't like? :D I find it interesting how you say America harms others when the Polish government is far from fair :)

Every country has corruption, faults, etc..to a certain degree.

Considering America didn't list the the Real IRA as a foreign terrorist organisation untill 2001 (considering the death and destruction they caused on mainland Britain from the 1970's 'ish) British people seem to have forgotten/gotten over it (in general :unsure:).

Maybe you would be a much happier person if you were to chill out some, and realise evey nation is far from perfect :) :wavey:

Blue Heart24
09-03-2007, 03:29 PM
It's "okay" if they want to get married,but the worst thing in the world that could happen is letting those to adopt children.

Sofonda Cox
09-03-2007, 03:31 PM
It's "okay" if they want to get married,but the worst thing in the world that could happen is letting those to adopt children.

ignorance :wavey:

Jaap
09-03-2007, 06:18 PM
It's "okay" if they want to get married,but the worst thing in the world that could happen is letting those to adopt children.

True.

scarecrows
09-03-2007, 06:20 PM
It's "okay" if they want to get married,but the worst thing in the world that could happen is letting those to adopt children.

why?

Blue Heart24
09-03-2007, 10:01 PM
why?

Because he/she would be marked for the rest of his/her life.
Just think how would they be treated by their school mates for example or by anyone else.He/she would suffer a lot because of it.No one deserves that.
And besides,it's just not normal.

Scotso
09-04-2007, 03:14 AM
There's no such thing as "normal." And if people are picking on them, maybe the bigots doing the bullying are the problem?

buddyholly
09-04-2007, 03:25 AM
Besides nobody in this world think that you are good people. What good did you do exactly? Nothing.

Saved Poland when the Poles surrendered to the Nazis without a fight. If you are here as a result of that, perhaps it was not so good an idea.
And then more recently Reagan had to save Poland again. This time from the Soviets.

buddyholly
09-04-2007, 03:28 AM
It's "okay" if they want to get married,but the worst thing in the world that could happen is letting those to adopt children.

I think it has already been shown that this works fine.

buddyholly
09-04-2007, 03:31 AM
Because he/she would be marked for the rest of his/her life.
Just think how would they be treated by their school mates for example or by anyone else.He/she would suffer a lot because of it.No one deserves that.


Ah, so that is your reason. Not everyone may be as bigoted and intolerant as you.

Fensler
09-04-2007, 03:58 AM
Many Poles are worst that I am. I am not the worst Pole in the world.
Besides there are not few examples. How do you think? Are your politicians so dirty and corrupted? And nation is clean and wonderful. It is total bs. And nobody from your clean, naive nation known it by the vote that something is wrong? Maybe your nation knew it and it satisfies your people ( killing of people, tortures, violance, lawlessness, harming of others). That's why this man, who destroyed 2 states, decimated people there won elections for 2 terms of office. Your nation is not so holly as you think of yourselves. Besides nobody in this world think that you are good people. What good did you do exactly? Nothing.

I sense much anger in you.

mtw
09-05-2007, 10:09 AM
Saved Poland when the Poles surrendered to the Nazis without a fight. If you are here as a result of that, perhaps it was not so good an idea.
And then more recently Reagan had to save Poland again. This time from the Soviets.

I see that you have really no bloody idea, what you say and what you write. Firstly in the Nazis time Poland was the only country, which resisted and was destroyed much more than other states. All other states surrended without fight. Secondly USA has nothing to do with winning of II world war ( of course after II world war they sold the halb of Europe to Stalin. It is their deserve ). If Stalin troops were not betrayed by Hitler, Nazism would rule in Europe and in USA till now. And such persons as you, would never come on world.

mtw
09-05-2007, 10:23 AM
:lol: :help:

so what has America done to Poland recently that you don't like? :D I find it interesting how you say America harms others when the Polish government is far from fair :)

Every country has corruption, faults, etc..to a certain degree.

Considering America didn't list the the Real IRA as a foreign terrorist organisation untill 2001 (considering the death and destruction they caused on mainland Britain from the 1970's 'ish) British people seem to have forgotten/gotten over it (in general :unsure:).

Maybe you would be a much happier person if you were to chill out some, and realise evey nation is far from perfect :) :wavey:

USA exploits and utilizes other countries of this world. And it is all, what it makes. It concerns majority of countries most of all poor countries in this world. Not mentioned about these countries, which were destroyed by USA ( Iraq and Afghanistan ). Besides I don't understand such standpoint as your one. USA did nothing wrong to Poland. And what should they do exactly for Poland ( destroy us too or exploit, make own new banana republic. They try to do that ). Besides, if they would be even wonderful for Poland, but they are not, it means nothing. They commited genocide, crimes, destroyed 2 countries and life of innocent people in these countries, in which lived many poor people, before this war. And someone must say it. It is not normal to look at it indifferently. For me it is clear. What is your standpoint? To have all in a.s.
Besides, something, what concerns polish leaders, they were always chieftains of some richer countries and now they chose the worst, what could be possible. It is very sad and shame and disgrace for all country.

buddyholly
09-11-2007, 09:59 PM
I see that you have really no bloody idea, what you say and what you write. Firstly in the Nazis time Poland was the only country, which resisted and was destroyed much more than other states. All other states surrended without fight. Secondly USA has nothing to do with winning of II world war ( of course after II world war they sold the halb of Europe to Stalin. It is their deserve ). If Stalin troops were not betrayed by Hitler, Nazism would rule in Europe and in USA till now. And such persons as you, would never come on world.

I guess I was out the day the Brits surrendered.

Louche
09-12-2007, 03:20 AM
USA has nothing to do with winning of II world war

My father would have been very upset to hear that - he was shot by a German sniper while he was a lookout in a church steeple. He returned to action and the tank he was in was hit by a shell - he was left for dead. He was found to be alive the next day and had a metal plate in his head for the rest of his life. This was in the spring of 1945.

His company was among the 1st to find starving camp survivors as they pushed further into Germany.

Please don't say that he did nothing.

buddyholly
09-12-2007, 04:04 PM
Please don't say that he did nothing.

Don't worry about the ravings of mtw. Under his revisionist thought process, he would no doubt wish to rewrite history in a way that the US was the aggressor and invaded Europe, instead of being the liberator and saving Poland's ass.