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Monday OOP

Bilbo
05-23-2004, 02:08 PM
CHATRIER 11:00 Start
1. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Justine Henin-Hardenne (BEL)[1] v. Sandrine Testud (FRA)
followed by:
2. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Andre Agassi (USA)[6] v. Jerome Haehnel (FRA)
3. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Virginie Pichet (FRA) v. Lindsay Davenport (USA)[5]
4. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Todd Martin (USA) v. Andy Roddick (USA)[2]

LENGLEN 11:00 Start
1. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Cyril Saulnier (FRA) v. Tim Henman (GBR)[9]
followed by:
2. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Amelie Mauresmo (FRA)[3] v. Ludmila Cervanova (SVK)
3. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Arnaud Clement (FRA)[32] v. Fabrice Santoro (FRA)
4. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Klara Koukalova (CZE) v. Tatiana Golovin (FRA)

Court 1 11:00 Start
1. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Catalina Castano (COL) v. Nadia Petrova (RUS)[8]
followed by:
2. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Nikolay Davydenko (RUS) v. Guillermo Coria (ARG)[3]
3. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Sandra Kleinova (CZE) v. Emilie Loit (FRA)[31]
4. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Wayne Arthurs (AUS) v. Nicolas Escude (FRA)

Court 2 11:00 Start
1. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Carlos Moya (ESP)[5] v. John Van Lottum (NED)
followed by:
2. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Magui Serna (ESP) v. Akiko Morigami (JPN)
3. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Michael Llodra (FRA) v. Alexander Popp (GER)
4. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Eleni Daniilidou (GRE)[27] v. Marlene Weingartner (GER)

Court 3 11:00 Start
1. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Paradorn Srichaphan (THA)[13] v. Tomas Berdych (CZE)
followed by:
2. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Magdalena Maleeva (BUL)[21] v. Anca Barna (GER)
3. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Robby Ginepri (USA) v. Olivier Mutis (FRA)
4. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Elena Dementieva (RUS)[9] v. Mervana Jugic-Salkic (BIH)

Court 4 11:00 Start
1. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Saori Obata (JPN) v. Vera Douchevina (RUS)
followed by:
2. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Fernando Vicente (ESP) v. Marc Gicquel (FRA)
3. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Nicole Pratt (AUS) v. Tina Pisnik (SLO)
4. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Bohdan Ulihrach (CZE) v. Dominik Hrbaty (SVK)[31]

Court 5 11:00 Start
1. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Harel Levy (ISR) v. Juan Ignacio Chela (ARG)[22]
followed by:
2. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Julien Jeanpierre (FRA) v. Karol Beck (SVK)
3. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Jelena Dokic (SCG)[24] v. Tatiana Perebiynis (UKR)
4. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Flavia Pennetta (ITA) v. Anna Smashnova-Pistolesi (ISR)[19]

Court 6 11:00 Start
1. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Barbara Schwartz (AUT) v. Maria Sharapova (RUS)[18]
followed by:
2. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Jelena Jankovic (SCG) v. Silvia Farina Elia (ITA)[15]
3. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Fernando Gonzalez (CHI)[16] v. Florian Mayer (GER)
4. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Tommy Robredo (ESP)[17] v. Alberto Martin (ESP)

Court 7 11:00 Start
1. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Dinara Safina (RUS)[32] v. Julia Schruff (GER)
followed by:
2. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Lars Burgsmuller (GER) v. Nicolas Mahut (FRA)
3. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Vera Zvonareva (RUS)[10] v. Zuzana Kucova (SVK)
4. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Mark Philippoussis (AUS)[18] v. Luis Horna (PER)

Court 8 11:00 Start
1. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Juan Monaco (ARG) v. Alex Bogomolov Jr. (USA)
followed by:
2. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Samantha Reeves (USA) v. Meghann Shaughnessy (USA)
3. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Sargis Sargsian (ARM) v. Mario Ancic (CRO)
4. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Amy Frazier (USA) v. Maria Elena Camerin (ITA)

Court 9 11:00 Start
1. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Tara Snyder (USA) v. Marissa Irvin (USA)
followed by:
2. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Mikhail Youzhny (RUS) v. Dennis Van Scheppingen (NED)
3. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Dally Randriantefy (MAD) v. Jie Zheng (CHN)
4. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Radek Stepanek (CZE) v. Vladimir Voltchkov (BLR)

Court 10 11:00 Start
1. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Irakli Labadze (GEO) v. Joachim Johansson (SWE)
followed by:
2. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Jill Craybas (USA) v. Anabel Medina Garrigues (ESP)
3. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Ashley Harkleroad (USA) v. Mariana Diaz-Oliva (ARG)
4. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Guillermo Garcia-Lopez (ESP) v. Todd Reid (AUS)

Court 11 11:00 Start
1. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Yuliana Fedak (UKR) v. Mara Santangelo (ITA)
followed by:
2. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Julia Vakulenko (UKR) v. Arantxa Parra Santonja (ESP)
3. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Galo Blanco (ESP) v. Albert Portas (ESP)
4. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Raemon Sluiter (NED) v. Ricardo Mello (BRA)

Court 14 11:00 Start
1. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Tathiana Garbin (ITA) v. Conchita Martinez Granados (ESP)
followed by:
2. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Greg Rusedski (GBR) v. Fernando Verdasco (ESP)
3. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Oscar Hernandez (ESP) v. Andrei Pavel (ROM)[21]
4. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Maria Sanchez Lorenzo (ESP) v. Sanda Mamic (CRO)

Court 16 11:00 Start
1. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Florent Serra (FRA) v. Vincent Spadea (USA)[27]
followed by:
2. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Rita Grande (ITA) v. Henrieta Nagyova (SVK)
3. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Christina Wheeler (AUS) v. Marta Marrero (ESP)
4. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Janko Tipsarevic (SCG) v. Nicolas Massu (CHI)[11]

Court 17 11:00 Start
1. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Milagros Sequera (VEN) v. Paola Suarez (ARG)[14]
followed by:
2. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Alex Corretja (ESP) v. Jan-Michael Gambill (USA)
3. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Lubomira Kurhajcova (SVK) v. Lisa Raymond (USA)[28]
4. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Mariano Zabaleta (ARG)[30] v. Stephane Robert (FRA)

Action Jackson
05-23-2004, 02:11 PM
Thanks Bilbo, this is definitely the worst side of the draw for matches that I want to watch.

TheBoiledEgg
05-23-2004, 02:18 PM
def the worst. if i had paid for my tickets on Chatrier, i'd ask for a refund ;)

good luck
Carlos :)
Kolya :)
Todd Martin
Alex C :)
Cyril :devil:

Bilbo
05-23-2004, 02:20 PM
especially Davenport-Pichet :shrug:

Deboogle!.
05-23-2004, 02:21 PM
Amelie is not on Chatrier? :eek: that's ridiculous!

amethyst
05-23-2004, 02:23 PM
Koukalova vs Golovin on Lenglen is also ridculous :eek:

lizabeth..*
05-23-2004, 02:25 PM
Thank god I have Spanish classes tomorrow night!! :rolleyes: :yawn:

Good luck Fer and Carlos!! :banana:

Sjengster
05-23-2004, 02:26 PM
Well look at it this way TBE, you won't be getting the early part of the Chatrier schedule anyway, because you'll be watching... Henman, who else, to start coverage of RG. Enjoy. :devil: (On a side note, I do think Saulnier has a pretty good chance of causing an upset there with the crowd behind him.)

Bilbo
05-23-2004, 02:26 PM
Yes, what a joke. Amelie not on Chatrier and Davydenko-Coria on Court1. :eek:

lizabeth..*
05-23-2004, 02:26 PM
Ohh and good luck to Gullie Garcia Lopez, and :woohoo: for him making it into the main draw! :yippee:

Deboogle!.
05-23-2004, 02:27 PM
And Carlos on court 2??? That's an insult to a former champion!

Sjengster
05-23-2004, 02:28 PM
Golovin is the latest teen sensation in France though, and she probably got the perk of playing on Lenglen in return for doing the draw.

lizabeth..*
05-23-2004, 02:28 PM
And Carlos on court 2??? That's an insult to a former champion!

My thoughts exactly Bunk!!!
*throws things*

Champion number 1
05-23-2004, 02:29 PM
If it goes ahead, Davydenko v Coria should be a nice match.

Im looking forward to see how Agassi does, and Roddick v Martin is a hard court match on clay.

Shadow
05-23-2004, 02:31 PM
good luck :clap2:

Andre
Todd
Nico
Florian
Luis
Irakli
Andrei
Alex

Lindsay
Tati
Nadia
Elena
Jelena
Masha
Dinara
Vera
Meghann

Nymeria
05-23-2004, 02:32 PM
Thanks Bilbo :)

Hope I'm able to see a part of Coria's match, but it'll be difficult since I've school monday.

TheBoiledEgg
05-23-2004, 02:43 PM
Well look at it this way TBE, you won't be getting the early part of the Chatrier schedule anyway, because you'll be watching... Henman, who else, to start coverage of RG. Enjoy. :devil: (On a side note, I do think Saulnier has a pretty good chance of causing an upset there with the crowd behind him.)


i wont be seeing Henman :woohoo:
as i wont be back home till around 12-30ish every day :mad:

so glad to miss Henman out, they better not go and show a repeat in afternoon instead of LIVE action like they do :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Sjengster
05-23-2004, 02:49 PM
Oh, I'm sure they'll find a way somehow. I wouldn't know, I won't be able to get to a TV until Thursday or Friday. Not quite so annoying as dumping two hours of cycling right in the middle of the coverage, though...

Deboogle!.
05-23-2004, 02:51 PM
Not quite so annoying as dumping two hours of cycling right in the middle of the coverage, though...

Wow even we don't get that for RG. For the first week we get uninterrupted 7 hours or so a day live coverage! Will be fascinating to see how ESPN screws it up of course, but at least on paper it looks good :o

WyveN
05-23-2004, 02:57 PM
I assume Agassi will get every match on centre court as each match is potentially his last at the FO but the fact that they couldnt find space for Coria v Davydenko on either of the main 2 courts is pretty embarassing, if this was the US Open, there would be scandals already :lol:

Action Jackson
05-23-2004, 03:08 PM
I assume Agassi will get every match on centre court as each match is potentially his last at the FO but the fact that they couldnt find space for Coria v Davydenko on either of the main 2 courts is pretty embarassing, if this was the US Open, there would be scandals already :lol:

Maybe Agassi's cousin Charles Aznavour or Aznavourian the French singer was the guy who did the draw that Agassi got this year, making it likely that Agassi will get all centre court matches and a chance at the QFs.

If we could get Marcel Marceau doing commentary that would be great. I might read some encylopedias just for fun tomorrow.

Neely
05-23-2004, 03:08 PM
actually, I think the matches on the courts are not that badly scheduled... I agree that there are some unlucky things but whatever you do there are pros and cons and I will give you some thoughts.

especially Davenport-Pichet :shrug:
yeah, I totally agree, that's a bit weird, but it's every year the same that a lot of French players, even unknown players play on the big court(s), and at least she doesn't play against a nobody, but against Lindsay

And Carlos on court 2??? That's an insult to a former champion!
don't worry, we will see Carlos a thousand times again and again on Chatrier or Langlen... I believe he open the 1st round against Volandri last year also on Court 1 or 2, while Mauresmo and Razzano played on Chatrier and it was not really such an exciting match-up, but they played there because it were two French players.

Koukalova vs Golovin on Lenglen is also ridculous :eek:
yes, not such a thrilling match-up... but as Sjengster said Golovin is a rising star and just think of, for example, where Mayer and Portas played in Hamburg. On Centrecourt! And they scheduled guys like Henman vs Pavel or Nalbandian on M1.
If Hamburg sets Mayer vs Portas for Centrecourt, so I think it's also understandable if the young French player in France plays on the big court and some others have to pass.

TennisLurker
05-23-2004, 03:32 PM
good luck to:


Amelie Mauresmo (FRA)
Fabrice Santoro (FRA)
Emilie Loit (FRA)[31]
Nicolas Escude (FRA)
Juan Ignacio Chela (ARG)[22]
Silvia Farina Elia (ITA)[15]
Florian Mayer (GER)
Juan Monaco (ARG)
Radek Stepanek (CZE)
Fernando Verdasco (ESP)
Vincent Spadea (USA)[27] (please, beat agassi)
Janko Tipsarevic (SCG) (please, beat massu)
Alex Corretja (ESP)



I thought the real conchita martinez was supposed to play tomorrow.

amethyst
05-23-2004, 03:38 PM
yes, not such a thrilling match-up... but as Sjengster said Golovin is a rising star and just think of, for example, where Mayer and Portas played in Hamburg. On Centrecourt! And they scheduled guys like Henman vs Pavel or Nalbandian on M1.
If Hamburg sets Mayer vs Portas for Centrecourt, so I think it's also understandable if the young French player in France plays on the big court and some others have to pass.

I wouldn´t say that scheduling Mayer-Portas on CenterCourt in Hamburg is a smart move either! Of course I understand that every nation wants to feature their own players on the bigger courts, but we are talking about a GS here and I stay with my opinion that Koukalova vs Golovin on Lenglen is ridiculous while Coria and Moya have to play on Court 1 or 2. Court 1 would be big enough if they want to give "rising star" Golovin a big stage, and even that would be questionable in my eyes!

User ID 4783
05-23-2004, 04:17 PM
lol... Agassi playing on Chatrier instead of Coria or Moya :rolleyes:

Neely
05-23-2004, 04:23 PM
yes sure, just some thought from my side
anyway it's the 1st round with lots of matches and we will see these players hopefully soon playing cosistently on the big courts and if they lost in the 1st round they wouldn't have deserved to be scheduled on Chatrier either.
So Moya, Coria and ... and ... will play on the courts they deserve soon the less matches have to be played on one day :)

User ID 4783
05-23-2004, 05:01 PM
ok, you're right, Neely ;)

star
05-23-2004, 05:10 PM
I liked what Jim Courier once said when the reporters tried to bait him into complaining aobut the courts where he was assigned. "If I keep winning, I'll play on the main court."

Organizers try to put matches on the main courts that they think will draw.

Coria played on one of the very SMALLEST courts at IW while more lowly ranked players were playing on bigger courts. I was grateful because I got to see him only a few feet away. It's nice sometimes to see the great players on the smaller courts. :)

TheBoiledEgg
05-23-2004, 05:36 PM
and look who they got doing the days previews on RG site
Matthew Cronin :rolleyes:

Tricky_Forehand
05-23-2004, 06:02 PM
For those of us with ESPN...does anyone honestly think we'll get to see anyone except the usual suspects tomorrow? Here's how I think it'll go: Roddick will be shown live and then they'll try to convince the viewing audience that Agassi's match is next (when it will actually be taped) and then by the time that Agassi's match is over, the coverage for the day will be done. Or, if it's not, they'll just go back and show a repeat of Roddick & Todd :rolleyes: .

I know that I should be giving the benefit of the doubt but with ESPN's track record for the last two years...I don't have much faith that they'll have the intelligence to show other matches. Especially if there's a more exciting one elsewhere.

Ok, that's my pre-venting ;) .

Deboogle!.
05-23-2004, 06:09 PM
I'd think they'll show Lindsay too. Andre's match will probably be the late night taped coverage. I don't know what else they'll show. But with that much live coverage scheduled they're going to HAVE to show some other people they just HAVE to. What's unfortunate for us is that most of the Americans are in the bottom halves of BOTH Draws, so every day will be bad since they're alternating. Tuesday will be all Williams (and Martina) all day I'm sure.

Yoav
05-23-2004, 06:12 PM
Harel is goona be the 1st loser of RG2004 :awww: :shrug:
hope i'm wrong

Sjengster
05-23-2004, 06:12 PM
Ah, but Roddick is last up on Chatrier so there's quite a substantial gap to be filled if they did go down that path. No, I suspect they'll just camp out on Chatrier and show all four matches there. True, you've got to show a non-American, but she is the world no. 1 and defending champion and then it's Agassi, Davenport, Roddick, Americans galore. There's no doubt that the top half of the draw is far more interesting, in terms of both seeded and unseeded encounters.

Sjengster
05-23-2004, 06:13 PM
Hmm, my last post was written before I remembered the time difference between Paris and America. Yes, they probably will go from Davenport onwards.

Deboogle!.
05-23-2004, 06:16 PM
yea tv coverage in the US starts at 2pm Paris time.

Tricky_Forehand
05-23-2004, 06:17 PM
I'd think they'll show Lindsay too. Andre's match will probably be the late night taped coverage. I don't know what else they'll show. But with that much live coverage scheduled they're going to HAVE to show some other people they just HAVE to. What's unfortunate for us is that most of the Americans are in the bottom halves of BOTH Draws, so every day will be bad since they're alternating. Tuesday will be all Williams (and Martina) all day I'm sure.

I didn't even want to think about Tuesday with Monday's schedule already having the potential to piss me off :) . Coverage hasn't even started but I'll say it now anyway: I HATE ESPN!! :fiery: And I don't use the word hate often.

I know that I should be grateful for having coverage because I know some people with worse but considering that I won't get to see most of my favorites at the beginning, just gets me aggitated.

Deboogle!.
05-23-2004, 06:25 PM
At some point ESPN should publish what matches they're showing.. then again they don't list all the matches they usually show, especially dealing with huge blocks of coverage.

It's gotta be better than AO, at least. With that we were lucky to get 2 hrs of live coverage a day, at least with RG we'll get several hours a day.

J. Corwin
05-23-2004, 09:12 PM
Well ESPN says on their site that they'll show Andre @ 8am EST. (ESPN2)

Tricky_Forehand
05-23-2004, 09:21 PM
If that's true then so much for "Live" tennis :rolleyes: . Once again, shows the stupidity of this network. A taped Agassi match followed by a taped Roddick match and considering they treat us viewers as idiots they'll act like these are the only two matches uccurring for the whole 7 hours :rolleyes:

Deboogle!.
05-23-2004, 09:41 PM
no they'll show Andy live..... if they show Andre taped, it'd pre-empt Lindsay, not Andy. Let's hope they just cut into Andre's match wherever it is when the live coverage starts and just go live from there.

Fedex
05-24-2004, 01:30 AM
And Carlos on court 2??? That's an insult to a former champion!
Yes, i know quite sad!!! :mad: :( Thats because the Americans must be on center court!! :bs: And i was sure the French didn't like Americans! :p The sooner Andre and Andy are out, the better!!! :o

Fedex
05-24-2004, 01:35 AM
and look who they got doing the days previews on RG site
Matthew Cronin :rolleyes:
Better than 'Nick's picks'. ;) :p

Fedex
05-24-2004, 01:39 AM
I'd think they'll show Lindsay too. Andre's match will probably be the late night taped coverage. I don't know what else they'll show. But with that much live coverage scheduled they're going to HAVE to show some other people they just HAVE to. What's unfortunate for us is that most of the Americans are in the bottom halves of BOTH Draws, so every day will be bad since they're alternating. Tuesday will be all Williams (and Martina) all day I'm sure.
Oh, yes, i forgot about the Williams on Tuesday!! :o They better not interfer with me seeing Roger or i'll be very pissed !! :mad: :mad: Dont worry about Martina, she'll be gone in the 1st round for sure!! :p ;) I guess there's no hope in seeing my other favourites, until the latter rounds :rolleyes: :bs:

YoursTruly
05-24-2004, 01:53 AM
Yes, i know quite sad!!! :mad: :( Thats because the Americans must be on center court!! :bs: And i was sure the French didn't like Americans! :p The sooner Andre and Andy are out, the better!!! :o

Look who's the major broadcaster! lol. :rolleyes:

What an insult to my husband CARLOS!!!!!!

Havok
05-24-2004, 02:34 AM
ok everybody knows it's always Andre, Roddick, Serena, Venus, Lindsay, Jennifer shown on tv all the time. why do people get all surprised and get pissed off and post the same crap over and over again for :scratch: I guess people like to vent:p

Tricky_Forehand
05-24-2004, 02:37 AM
The sooner Andre and Andy are out, the better!!! :o

:yeah: I guess if I rooted for either of these guys I just might feel different but I'm not sure I would then either. I'm probably going to be watching most of my favorites play their matches on the live scoreboard. I know I'll be watching Alex's match that way. He's first on Court 8 which is 2 AM my time so there went my slim hope at ESPN airing a part of his match :mad: .

I've already sent my complaint letter to ESPN for RG :p . I know that it won't help but I might as well add to the pile that I'm sure is bound to get bigger and bigger :)

Tricky_Forehand
05-24-2004, 02:45 AM
ok everybody knows it's always Andre, Roddick, Serena, Venus, Lindsay, Jennifer shown on tv all the time. why do people get all surprised and get pissed off and post the same crap over and over again for :scratch: I guess people like to vent:p

Because it hasn't always been like this. Nor was the coverage this bad when USA network had RG (matter of fact...USA was awesome!!). HBO did the best job with Wimbledon & even with TNT's commercial's their coverage of Wimbledon was decent. I get afraid every year that ESPN will outbid USA for the OPEN and then Tennis fans will really be screwed.

Also, there's always that slim hope that ESPN will listen and give the Tennis fans something to watch along with those people who think that Tennis only happens four times a year.

Personally, I'm tired of ESPN making it seem like every tournament is Davis Cup (i.e. we're supposed to root for Americans) instead of respecting Tennis as the International sport it is. Yes, I know other countries do it too and it doesn't make me any more agreeable about it.

Writing notes may not change anything in the immediate future but knowing that i'm putting my voice out there makes me feel better sometimes.

Havok
05-24-2004, 03:08 AM
well recently :p

too bad other americans aren't good enough, and besides you're bound to see the top names as they'll all progress deep in the draw anyways

Deboogle!.
05-24-2004, 03:08 AM
Katherine don't take this the wrong way, but even if ESPN's coverage were really good, I don't think a match like Alex's would ever be shown. I mean matches like Safin/Calleri, Haas/Ferrero, Coria/Davydenko, these matches should be shown by ESPN, but a match featuring two really low-ranked relatively unknown players is just unrealistic IMO. ESPN rarely even shows people like Blake, Fish, Ginepri, and Martin, all of whom have pretty good fanbases.

I do like Andy and Andre, but I don't like the Williams sisters at all so I understand how annoying it all is. But obviously EVERYONE can't have ALL of their favorites shown, especially live from a tournament where the time difference is at least 6 hours. I think 7 hours of scheduled live coverage tomorrow is quite generous.

The point is also that other countries HEAVILY feature their own players as well. My friends in Argentina get their home country players on tv when they play and they even get lots of repeats of these matches! It happens in Germany and Brazil and everywhere else too, I don't think it's that bizarre that all of Andy/Andre/Venus/Serena/Lindsay/etc.'s matches get shown - they just happen to be rather unpopular HERE at MTF. It's not ESPN's fault that there are more higher-ranked players on both the men's and women's sides in America than, say, from England. so England shows Henman and Rusedski but since there are only two players to show, they HAVE to show other players, but ESPN in the US gets the luxury of having two top players on the men's side and as many as 4 or 5 on the women's!

The best solution would be to do what USA did and feature the American players' matches but cut to other matches at important times for a few minutes. Then we'd mostly get to see the Americans but also at least parts of other matches too. I was watching an old USA FO match from 2001 last night and they cut to a few minutes of both Hewitt/Davydenko and Novak/Pioline and that was nice. The things like repeating taped matches instead of showing live matches featuring non-americans, ok I TOTALLY agree with how awful that is and ESPN is just stupid for doing that, but when they're picking a live match to air, I think you can hardly expect them to NOT choose the high-ranked popular Americans. There are two different issues though - the stupid stuff ESPN does like showing the taped American matches instead of good matches featuring foreigners and them showing American players' matches live. IMO the former is not ok but the latter is what happens everywhere and what should happen. The hometown stations SHOULD support the hometown players, that only seems right.

But I mean there's just no way to please everyone so they're just trying to please the most people they can, and that means showing the hometown boys. When you go to Thailand and it's Paradorn TV or Guga TV in Brazil or Henman TV in England or whatever, it never seems to be a problem. But when Evil ESPN shows the Evil Americans, it's this horrible thing. And it's that inconsistency and hypocracy that's really grating.

shaoyu
05-24-2004, 09:03 AM
Here comes Bunk the Great Eloquent Defender! ESPN executives can now relax and keep their way, anyway those whiners are just a bunch of US-hating hypocrites!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Tricky_Forehand
05-24-2004, 03:55 PM
Katherine don't take this the wrong way, but even if ESPN's coverage were really good, I don't think a match like Alex's would ever be shown.

I wasn't talking about them showing Alex. Court 8 didn't even have a Netcam on it :mad: . But, I do have other favorites that will not be shown. If I wasn't so frustrated at the moment I would find it humorous that this coverage should be accepted at face-value because that's just the way it is :rolleyes: . The basic gist of my email to ESPN was the fact that I had the feeling that their so-called "Live" Tennis would be taped. How prophetic was that? The sad part is that, in one day, this year's coverage is already worse than '03.

I think 7 hours of scheduled live coverage tomorrow is quite generous.

Is this one of the things that you take back? ;)

The point is also that other countries HEAVILY feature their own players as well. My friends in Argentina get their home country players on tv when they play and they even get lots of repeats of these matches! It happens in Germany and Brazil and everywhere else too,

And i said that too but that doesn't mean that one has to be happy about it or just sit back and accept it. Just because it happens in other countries doesn't make it ok for the States. As I said, I miss USA network's coverage. Their coverage is the reason for most of my favorites because I didn't have regular internet use until my late teens and it still wasn't easy then to keep up with it all. USA Network was never heavy on American coverage. I remember them being neutral and showing good matches regardless if it was a name playing or not.

The best solution would be to do what USA did and feature the American players' matches but cut to other matches at important times for a few minutes. Then we'd mostly get to see the Americans but also at least parts of other matches too. I was watching an old USA FO match from 2001 last night and they cut to a few minutes of both Hewitt/Davydenko and Novak/Pioline and that was nice. The things like repeating taped matches instead of showing live matches featuring non-americans, ok I TOTALLY agree with how awful that is and ESPN is just stupid for doing that, but when they're picking a live match to air, I think you can hardly expect them to NOT choose the high-ranked popular Americans. There are two different issues though - the stupid stuff ESPN does like showing the taped American matches instead of good matches featuring foreigners and them showing American players' matches live. IMO the former is not ok but the latter is what happens everywhere and what should happen. The hometown stations SHOULD support the hometown players, that only seems right.

But I mean there's just no way to please everyone so they're just trying to please the most people they can.But when Evil ESPN shows the Evil Americans, it's this horrible thing. And it's that inconsistency and hypocracy that's really grating.

They're not out to please Tennis fans though, Deb. They only really care about those people that think that Tennis happens 4 times a year and they know the rest of us will watch while we complain because it's all we have. As I said, maybe if I was a supporter of Roddick like you and many others...I wouldn't have a big issue with ESPN either but I feel short-changed because they won't go to any outside court. Most of my favorites have been playing all day and do you know how many I saw on the TV? 0