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Rogi in RG!!

LCeh
05-18-2004, 03:23 PM
Come on Rogi! One match at a time now... :)

Can't wait to see the draw!

Dirk
05-18-2004, 03:26 PM
Yes I must control myself this year. Shit, I still need to write up is ninja mission from Hamburg.

tangerine_dream
05-18-2004, 06:01 PM
When does the draw come out?

LCeh
05-18-2004, 06:10 PM
I don't know, someone said it's supposed to be out on Friday, but not sure.

I hope Rogi doesn't get too easy of a draw... cause he usually performs better with a semi-tough/tough draw. :devil:

Billabong
05-19-2004, 03:00 AM
GOOOOOOOOO FEDDDDDDDDD:banana::banana::banana:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RogiFan88
05-19-2004, 04:09 AM
tangy, like the new avatar... looks like an ad for a horror movie...

Daniel
05-19-2004, 09:43 AM
Good luck Rogi, wish u have an easy draw and a superb performanc @ RG :D :D

mrpenguin
05-19-2004, 11:19 AM
I hope Roger has a TOUGH draw and a lot of 5 setters
so that any win will be really rewarding .

An easy draw won't make him any better

Now I have very low expectations for RG because it is a bit of a lottery
and it seems a lot of players can win (Moya, Coria, Safin, Ferrero, Hewitt, Agassi,
Nalbandian, Roddick )

What I DO hope is that he gets to fourth round! (who can stop him after that?)

Oh yeah and one never says so much as when one doesn't know what to say, so I'm going to keep on talking: tangerine_dream very nice poster

And there goes the william hill bookmakers favourites for RG
with odds
R Federer 3.00 G Coria 3.75 J C Ferrero 6.00 C Moya 7.00 M Safin 11.00 D Nalbandian 15.00 A Roddick 17.00 A Agassi 17.00 F Gonzalez 26.00 L Hewitt 34.00 G Kuerten 34.00 G Gaudio 41.00 A Costa 41.00

jtipson
05-19-2004, 12:23 PM
He does seem to thrive in difficult draws, but I'd rather him have a non-clay-court specialist to start off - Greg Rusedski, perhaps? ;)

Couldn't believe the odds of 2-1, only just a bit longer than he is for Wimbledon (7-4)!

WyveN
05-19-2004, 12:40 PM
Ginepri would be terrific in the first round, however knowing Roger he will perform better if its Mantilla :lol:

Billabong
05-19-2004, 01:07 PM
lol :lol:!

Mrs. B
05-19-2004, 02:22 PM
Go Roger!!! :bounce: you're not allowed to lose in the first round. ;)

tangy, funny avatar! :lol: i wanted to give you a rep for it but i need to spread out some love first. ;)

yanchr
05-19-2004, 03:25 PM
oh really surprised about the odds :eek:

I'm ambivalent toward what kind of draw Rogi should get. Yeah, it seems like the tougher the draw and the lower expectations we have for him, the better he performs...examples are many...so interesting::scratch but that also means chances are that he will likely lose 1st or 2nd round:confused: ummm...still hope he draws some non-clay expert at least in the 1st round. Don't want him to be blocked again by the 1st round hurdle in RG :tape:

Go Rogi :bounce::banana:

Dirk
05-19-2004, 05:52 PM
Roger can handle any draw. I don't want him to play lots of 5 setters because it will drain him eventually. I just hope Roger is ready for war. http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/otn/blobs/multi.gif

Dirk
05-19-2004, 05:57 PM
http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/kao/otn/pgridstars.gif This is what our Roger is doing for RG. He is prepping his magic to rain down and dazzle and destroy EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tangerine_dream
05-19-2004, 06:02 PM
From Eurosport. The press is calling Roger an RG favorite but Roger is playing it down, understandably. ;)

Roger: "I'm no favourite"

World number one Roger Federer doesn't want to consider himself amongst the favourites to lift Coupe des Mousquetaires on 6 June. The Swiss has been knocked out in the French Open first round for the last two years and doesn't want to think ahead to potential quarter or semi-final matches.

Having ended the 31-match clay-court winning streak of Guillermo Coria of Argentine at the Hamburg Masters last week, Federer insists he'll take one step at a time.

"I'll concentrate on my first round because that's what didn't work in the last two years," the 22-year-old said.

With Wimbledon and Australian Open titles to his name, Federer is widely regarded as a player capable of winning all four Grand Slams in a calendar season.

In the last 17 months he has won 11 titles on three different surfaces and prepared well for last year's tournament in Paris, with the title in Munich.

"The last two years I entered the French Open with high hopes and losing in the first round was very tough mentally," he said.

"I'm more relaxed now. I know whoever wants to beat me will have to play extremely well."

Federer's run in Hamburg included wins over 1998 French Open champion Carlos Moya, former world number one Lleyton Hewitt and bookies favourite Coria.

But his second round loss at the Rome Masters, following a short absence from the game, suggested he hasn't fully adapted.

"I was a bit worried in Rome but I tried to block that away because I knew it was just a matter of finding the right rhythm," he said.

"Now I'm serving better, returning better and I've got the groove, the balance and everything."

WyveN
05-20-2004, 04:06 AM
is roger in Paris yet?

Dirk
05-20-2004, 04:07 AM
I think he said he would get there by Tuesday or Wednesday. So he should be there.

mitalidas
05-20-2004, 07:10 PM
Hi everyone, the seedings are out (not that it would be a surprise), but here they are and I sense that barring rogi and coria being in the upper half, thelower half is a much tougher lot (agassi, ferrero, roddick, nalbandian, hewitt, grosjean, etc).

The 32 seeds for the men’s singles

1. Roger FEDERER (SUI)
2. Andy RODDICK (USA)
3. Guillermo CORIA (ARG)
4. Juan Carlos FERRERO (ESP)
5. Carlos MOYA (ESP)
6. Andre AGASSI (USA)
7. Rainer SCHUETTLER (GER)
8. David NALBANDIAN (ARG)
9. Tim HENMAN (GBR)
10. Sébastien GROSJEAN (FRA)
11. Nicolas MASSU (CHI)
12. Lleyton HEWITT (AUS)
13. Paradorn SRICHAPHAN (THA)
14. Jiri NOVAK (CZE)
15. Sjeng SCHALKEN (NED)
16. Fernando GONZALEZ (CHI)
17. Tommy ROBREDO (ESP)
18. Mark PHILIPPOUSSIS (AUS)
19. Martin VERKERK (NED)
20. Marat SAFIN (RUS)
21. Andrei PAVEL (ROM)
22. Juan Ignacio CHELA (ARG)
23. Feliciano LOPEZ (ESP)
24. Jonas BJORKMAN (SWE)
25. Ivan LJUBICIC (CRO)
26. Albert COSTA (ESP)
27. Vincent SPADEA (USA)
28. Gustavo KUERTEN (BRA)
29. Max MIRNYI (BLR)
30. Mariano ZABALETA (ARG)
31. Dominik HRBATY (SVK)
32. Arnaud CLEMENT (FRA)

mitalidas
05-20-2004, 07:14 PM
and here are the two top seeds.... (hey, they too would make a nice couple)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/3733659.stm

jtipson
05-20-2004, 07:22 PM
Hi everyone, the seedings are out (not that it would be a surprise), but here they are and I sense that barring rogi and coria being in the upper half, thelower half is a much tougher lot (agassi, ferrero, roddick, nalbandian, hewitt, grosjean, etc).


mitalidas, I wish it did work like that, but we don't know which half anyone is going to be in yet, apart from Roger and Andy, who'll be at the top and bottom respectively. It all depends on the draw tomorrow (announced at midday Paris time).

jtipson
05-20-2004, 07:26 PM
Just thinking...what would be the possible worst draw for Roger from that seeding list?
Here are my thoughts:

3rd round: Albert Costa or Ivan Ljubicic or Guga
4th round: Jiri Novak
Quarterfinal: David Nalbandian
Semi-final: erm, either would be pretty tough

But to be honest, it's the first round draw that's really important. Rusedski, please, please!

mitalidas
05-20-2004, 11:01 PM
oops... didnt know that. so the seedings only put the top 2 in opposite draws and everyone else is basically random?

Dirk
05-21-2004, 01:42 AM
Roger can handle any type of draw. He might or might not win RG. I think he will go far this year.

Dirk
05-21-2004, 03:35 AM
PREVIEW-Tennis-Federer stands out in sea of baseliners
By Ossian Shine, Reuters

PARIS, May 21 (Reuters) - In the company of grinding, workmanlike baseliners, a thoughtful player with a delicate touch is sure to stand out.

When the French Open begins on Monday, not only will Roger Federer stand apart, but he will start as favourite to win the title.

Equipped with a brand of tennis which modern history suggests should be a liability on the slow, gruelling clay of Roland Garros, Federer's talent is such that the world number one can still be expected to overcome all.

The modest Swiss with perfect timing can protest all he likes, he is the favourite.

Last year he became the first Swiss man to win a grand slam singles title, at Wimbledon, and showed his versatility by winning seven titles on three different surfaces.

At the beginning of this year he bagged the Australian Open title and now looks a decent bet to win in Paris.

In the weeks leading up to Roland Garros, all the talk had been of Guillermo Coria and the Argentine's devastating claycourt play.

Earlier this month he went into the Hamburg final against Federer on a 31-match winning streak on the gruelling surface, yet with little fuss and his customary command Federer dispatched him in four sets.

FIRST-HAND KNOWLEDGE

Still, though, Federer plays down his chances at the Open.

"I really don't want to consider myself as the favourite," he said after that win over Coria.

"I don't want to waste thoughts on possible semi-finals or quarter-finals," the 22-year-old Federer added, reflecting on his opening-round defeats in Paris over the last two years.

"I'll concentrate on my first round because that's what didn't work in the last two years."

But the Federer of last year and the player today are very different.

He now knows he can win on any surface and at the highest of levels.

Certainly his opponents recognise his capability. Coria has recent first-hand knowledge of his threat and champion Juan Carlos Ferrero marks him out as a danger.

The Spaniard has never been beaten before the semi-final stage at Roland Garros but he has been troubled by injuries and illness all year.

CHICKEN POX

At the beginning of the season, Ferrero contracted chicken pox. He injured his wrist and ribs afterwards and has barely played on his favourite surface.

"Having only played four games on clay (since last year) will be a handicap," he told Spanish newspaper El Pais this week.

"But Roland Garros is the last tournament I have left and I'm going to try to do the best possible."

As well as the threat of Federer and Coria, Ferrero will also face fierce opposition from his compatriots, traditionally strong on clay.

Carlos Moya is hitting form at just the right time and believes his is playing better tennis than in 1998 when he won the French crown and reached world number one.

"I think I'm a better player than I was a few years ago," he said in Hamburg, where he was stopped by Federer in the quarter-finals.

"I didn't win the French Open again but if you look at my match record now you will see that it is better than what it was in 1997 or 1998."

U.S. Open champion Andy Roddick sits between Federer and Coria at number two in the rankings and although, like Federer, he has a poor record in Paris he could certainly lift the title this year.

LCeh
05-21-2004, 03:46 AM
Thanks a lot for the article Dirk. I am kinda ambivalent towards this, and I believe so is Roger... on one hand, you don't want to consider yourself as a favorite to add extra pressure, and the 2 consecutive first round exists confirms that, but on the other hand, Roger really is a different player now, has won a TMS on clay a week ago, and is full of confidence.

I hope Roger takes the middle ground and take advantage of both POV/feelings.

Dirk
05-21-2004, 03:58 AM
Roger is mentally ready for war at RG. I probably should have deleted that last line. Andy has no credence to being called a favorite or say he could certainly lift the title.

jtipson
05-21-2004, 12:45 PM
Worst draw scenario:
3rd round: Albert Costa or Ivan Ljubicic or Guga
4th round: Jiri Novak
Quarterfinal: David Nalbandian
Semi-final: erm, either would be pretty tough


Actual:
3rd round: Guga
4th round: Schalken
Quarterfinal: Nalbandian (although Safin is in his draw so could be tough)
Semi: Ferrero (if he plays)

1st round qualie...hope he doesn't get Mayer or Almagro....

Otherwise, it could have been a whole lot worse (see Ferrero, Juan Carlos). What does everyone think?

yanchr
05-21-2004, 01:03 PM
I do think Roger has got a relatively easy draw in the early rounds...or could I say that :tape: still don't know if Guga has fully recovered from his injury. If he can get to the qfs, then maybe everything is open for him methinks. Nalby or Safin in the qf...ummm Safin must be struggling to win his first 2 matches though...Nalby...3rd time in a row in GS to get him in the same qf.....pfffff no comment on that :o And JC...he is still a mystery now.

Though I don't like him to get a qualifier in the 1st round, coz he will have to take time to adjust to all the conditions while his opponent already gets used to that, it's still not a bad idea considering those opponents like Haas, Gaudio, Calleri, Canas, etc.

So plllllllssssss Rogi, get past 1st round, which is my deadline for you ;)

mitalidas
05-21-2004, 01:50 PM
i;m not happy with the draw for Rogi... I looked at the bottom half and feel that that is much easier. on the other hand, I guess it could have been much worse for Rogi, given that Nalbandian, Safin, Coria, Moya are all in his half.. instead of meeting Nalbandian OR safin OR grosjean, he could have met Nalbandian AND Safin... and so on. Still, not happy. I agree, should get someone burnout from qualies in the first. I hope Guga is not recovered. I think Schalken should be easy. I hope its Grosjean thereafter. And, some "surprise" factor in the semis and final fromthe lower half

Dirk
05-21-2004, 02:13 PM
Coria is in the bottom half and Moya so he couldn't meet them till the finals. Roger should be fine no matter who he plays in the 1st rd. I bet he will mix in some serving and volleying against who ever it is. The Guga match will be interesting.

WyveN
05-21-2004, 02:37 PM
When you got a tough opponent in the middle of a pretty easy draw, that is always very dangerous and that is what happened with Roger here. If he can get past the first 3 rounds I will be much more confident.

mrpenguin
05-21-2004, 02:53 PM
Costa/Nalbandian/Safin will be the biggest threats


Roger is up to the challenge on clay (what Dirk calls war), and that's what matters!

But it wouldn't be the french OPEN if it was a done deal beforehand-

Dirk
05-21-2004, 03:02 PM
Costa is in the other qrt, but yeah I think he will go far. Marat is a meathead and I would love to see Roger pick him apart again right in front of Peter. ;) I just hope Roger is ok for the 1st rd. That Guga match will definitely be on ESPN. No USA guys in the top so......... lot's of Roger tape. :bigclap:

RogiFan88
05-21-2004, 03:12 PM
Let's look at this draw here:

Federer, Roger (1) vs qualifier
Ascione, Thierry vs Kiefer, Nicolas
Ramirez Hidalgo, Ruben vs Elseneer, Gilles
qualifiervs Kuerten, Gustavo (28)

Lopez, Feliciano (23)vs Lapentti, Nicolas
Karlovic, Ivo vs Kucera, Karol
Patience, Olivier vs Volandri, Filippo
Soderling, Robin vs Schalken, Sjeng (15)

Grosjean, Sebastien (10) vs qualifier
qualifier vs Tursunov, Dmitry
Mantilla, Felix vs qualifier
Calleri, Agustin vs Safin, Marat (20)

Ljubicic, Ivan (25) vs Arazi, Hicham
Koubek, Stefan vs Sanchez, David
Pless, Kristian vs qualifier
Gasquet, Richard vs Nalbandian, David (8)

Ferrero, Juan Carlos (4) vs Haas, Tommy
Vacek, Jan vs Andreev, Igor
Rochus, Olivier vs Ferrer, David
Benneteau, Julien vs Mirnyi, Max (29)

Bjorkman, Jonas (24) vs Dent, Taylor
Carlsen, Kenneth vs Enqvist, Thomas
Canas, Guillermo vs Gaudio, Gaston
Dupuis, Anthony vs Novak, Jiri (14)

Hewitt, Lleyton (12) vs Di Pasquale, Arnaud
Melzer, Jurgen vs Ferreira, Wayne
Hanescu, Victor vs Lisnard, Jean-Rene
Boutter, Julien vs Verkerk, Martin (19)

Costa, Albert (26) vs Saretta, Flavio
Rochus, Christophe vs qualifier
qualifier vs qualifier
Malisse, Xavier vs Schuettler, Rainer (7)

Moya, Carlos (5) vs Van Lottum, John
Vicente, Fernando vs qualifier
Sluiter, Raemon vs qualifier
Ulihrach, Bohdan vs Hrbaty, Dominik (31)

Robredo, Tommy (17) vs Martin, Alberto
qualifier vs Reid, Todd
Stepanek, Radek vs qualifier
qualifier vs Massu, Nicolas (11)

Gonzalez, Fernando (16) vs qualifier
Arthurs, Wayne vs Escude, Nicolas
Youzhny, Mikhail vs van Scheppingen, Dennis
Hernandez, Oscar vs Pavel, Andrei (21)

Zabaleta, Mariano (30) vs Robert, Stephane
Sargsian, Sargis vs Ancic, Mario
Carraz, Gregory vs Bogomolv, Alex Jr
Davydenko, Nikolay vs Coria, Guillermo (3)

Agassi, Andre (6) vs qualifier
Llodra, Michael vs Popp, Alexander
qualifier vs Beck, Karol
qualifier vs Spadea, Vincent (27)

Philippoussis, Mark (18) vs Horna, Luis
Blanco, Galo vs Portas, Albert
Burgsmuller, Lars vs Mahut, Nicolas
Saulnier, Cyril vs Henman, Tim (9)

Srichaphan, Paradorn (13) vs Berdych, Tomas
Corretja, Alex vs Gambill, Jan-Michael
Rusedski, Greg vs Verdasco, Fernando
Levy, Harel vs Chela, Juan Ignacio (22)

Clement, Arnaud (32) vs Santoro, Fabrice
Labadze, Irakli vs Johansson, Joachim
Ginepri, Robby vs Mutis, Olivier
Martin, Todd vs Roddick, Andy (2)

WyveN
05-21-2004, 03:47 PM
This is the first time Roger is #1 seed at a slam

Shy
05-21-2004, 03:50 PM
I do think Roger has got a relatively easy draw in the early rounds...or could I say that :tape: still don't know if Guga has fully recovered from his injury.
;)
I disagree . It depends on who is his qualifier. It could be though especially on clay. I mean it would probably be harder to beat a qualifier than a seeded player who have never won a match on clay. His early round isn't as bad as some people,even if he has Guga in the third round. Unfortunately, Guga isn't the same anymore. Poor Marat.

Hope that the William sisters play the same day than the bottom draw. So, I can see other matches than the americans.

ytben
05-21-2004, 04:49 PM
I disagree . It depends on who is his qualifier. It could be though especially on clay. I mean it would probably be harder to beat a qualifier than a player who have never won a match on clay. His earlu round isn't as bad as some people,even if he has Guga in the third round. Unfortunately, Guga isn't the same anymore. Poor Marat.

Hope that the William sisters play the same day than the bottom draw. So, I can see other matches than the americans.

Totally agree with you Shy. Especially if he got Almagro or Mayer, I saw them on Hamburg and they're awesome. Hopefully Rogi can pull through the first round, I am really worried somehow.
Yeah, what a horrible draw for Marat :sad: And Juanqui too, what a tough first round. I was hoping he get an easy one so he can have chances to get match tough. Good luck Maratski and Juanqui, you guys will need it.

tangerine_dream
05-21-2004, 05:15 PM
I am worried about Roger meeting up with Nalbandian on this clay. :tape:

A quallie in first round. Still not sure if that's a good or bad thing. :scratch:

Dirk
05-21-2004, 07:00 PM
I'm not worried about David. He has to win matches to get to Roger. If Roger can beat him on harcourts he can beat him on clay. Roger will be able to destroy anyone he faces in the 1st rd. Roger will do what he has to do to keep his errors low. I think Roger will be fine.

mrpenguin
05-21-2004, 07:05 PM
Roger vs. Nalbandian would be an awesome match!

You know Roger knows Nalb. back from Junior days, and he's totally confident he can beat him (although his record vs Nalb. was against him)

I think it's a challenge for him to beat the clay guys on their surface and Roger is all the more fired up

LCeh
05-21-2004, 07:07 PM
I still think we should look at this one match at a time. ;)

Come on Roger! Beat Qualifier #1! :banana:

Dirk
05-21-2004, 07:09 PM
I would be shocked if David gets that far. For now its just the 1st rd.

Mrs. B
05-21-2004, 07:17 PM
i want to see Roger play Guga! if he gets past this then je suis content, so i wish him good luck on his 1st and second round. Allez!!!

so, who's the qualifier? Florian Mayer?

Blaze
05-21-2004, 07:19 PM
I for one will be shocked if Kuerten made it to round 3.


Anyway, Good luck Rogi and take care of them anyway that they come. :cool:

Sjengster
05-21-2004, 07:20 PM
No reason why he shouldn't reach the quarters, he has a good draw to the 4th round and both Grosjean and Safin are struggling with their form at the moment. I actually think clay would be the worst surface for Federer to play Nalbandian, it may be Dave's weakest surface but it fits his counter-punching style perfectly against someone like Federer. The first time they played on tour was two years ago in Monte Carlo, and Federer won three games. He is obviously much improved since then, but so is Nalbandian.

Kuerten apart it's a good section, although there's no way it will be Schalken in the 4th round. He's got Volandri in the 2nd, and I reckon the winner of him and Lapentti will be the one who makes it to the second week. About this Kuerten encounter, I do wonder whether his fitness will have improved enough to trouble Federer but then he'll have all the crowd behind him and he has an easy couple of rounds to get there.

Dirk
05-21-2004, 08:00 PM
Its all about the error count for pretty much every match. If Roger's defensive skills are sharp David will be gone, but I think David won't be there. I think Marat, Calleri, or Ivan will meet him in the qrts. Sadly Sjeng won't make it that far, but I hope so. I hope its Nico.

Shy
05-21-2004, 08:09 PM
No reason why he shouldn't reach the quarters, he has a good draw to the 4th round and both Grosjean and Safin are struggling with their form at the moment. I actually think clay would be the worst surface for Federer to play Nalbandian, it may be Dave's weakest surface but it fits his counter-punching style perfectly against someone like Federer. The first time they played on tour was two years ago in Monte Carlo, and Federer won three games. He is obviously much improved since then, but so is Nalbandian.

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They need to get there first and David has though opponents. I think if Roger has his Hamburg form, it would be ok. Howerver, if he is off and David is fit,he is in big trouble.

lsy
05-22-2004, 06:54 AM
I don't know what to feel about his draw anymore.

I'm only more concerned about who'll he be playing in the 1st round. When will we get to know which qualifier will Rogi be playing vs?

WyveN
05-22-2004, 09:04 AM
I'm only more concerned about who'll he be playing in the 1st round. When will we get to know which qualifier will Rogi be playing vs?

I think most of them have been decided so very soon.
Almagro could be dangerous. I saw Mayer last week against Youzhny and think Federer can handle him.

lsy
05-22-2004, 09:08 AM
I think most of them have been decided so very soon.
Almagro could be dangerous. I saw Mayer last week against Youzhny and think Federer can handle him.

yes I was thinking of Almagro only because I saw him vs Coria in Hamburg. He was very aggressive and certainly had his chances of winning there. I think he's gonna be more dangerous now after that match vs Coria. Qualifiers such as these can be scary.

yanchr
05-22-2004, 11:35 AM
No reason why he shouldn't reach the quarters, he has a good draw to the 4th round and both Grosjean and Safin are struggling with their form at the moment. I actually think clay would be the worst surface for Federer to play Nalbandian, it may be Dave's weakest surface but it fits his counter-punching style perfectly against someone like Federer.
I agree there he should make quarters with that draw. If he doesn't, then his RG should be totally a failure. And yes Federer-Nalbandian clay match would be interesting and dangerous. Their matchup always catches my eyes badly. But I doubt Nalby will make it that far regarding his tough draw.

squirrel
05-22-2004, 11:55 AM
anyone knows if rogi will play on monday or on tuesday? thanks

Geoffry
05-22-2004, 06:14 PM
Roger will play Kristof Vliegen

LCeh
05-22-2004, 06:19 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but who is that?

misyou25
05-22-2004, 06:22 PM
hes the second best belgian player and will kick rogis ass!

misyou25
05-22-2004, 06:24 PM
:D go vliegen!

jtipson
05-22-2004, 07:13 PM
Can't be that good, he already lost in qualifying and got in as a lucky loser ;)

misyou25
05-22-2004, 07:43 PM
he's not a luck loser anymore...lol. he is good . beat nabandian in barcelona

WyveN
05-23-2004, 01:54 AM
The qualifier could have been much worse, Roger got pretty lucky in that aspect

Dirk
05-23-2004, 02:00 AM
Roger can handle anybody. I have a good feeling about this event. I just hope he wins his Guga match. Wyvern did you see Jon's stupid ass seed report????????

Raquel
05-23-2004, 02:32 AM
Good Luck Roger! :bounce: :hug:

WyveN
05-23-2004, 02:42 AM
Wyvern did you see Jon's stupid ass seed report????????

Yes, Kiefer & Lopez are not exactly the worlds scariest clay players. Nalbandian has a far more brutal draw yet he doesn't even mention that. The danger players for Roger in his section are Almagro, Kuerten and Volandri.

Dirk
05-23-2004, 02:46 AM
Yes and only Guga or Almago will play Roger. I don't think David will make the qrts. Especially is he plays Marat.

LCeh
05-23-2004, 02:53 AM
2 first round exits in a row... I am not going to look any further than match 1, which is against Kristof Vliegen, and right now he is the most dangerous player until Roger beats him! ;)

rue
05-23-2004, 02:58 AM
I don't see why roger would not be able to make it to the finals. People may say that his draw is tough, but looking at the draw, Kuerten was injured and has not played for quite a while now, Nalbandian lost last week in the first round of Hamburg, Hewitt is not going to get too far and Safin could possibly lose early, so it ain't such a bad draw for him. As long as he wins his first round match easily, we will know that all is good for him.

LCeh
05-23-2004, 02:59 AM
Nice avatar rue! :yeah:

Dirk
05-23-2004, 03:34 AM
Prehaps I should change mind as well.

Fedex
05-23-2004, 08:48 AM
No reason why he shouldn't reach the quarters, he has a good draw to the 4th round and both Grosjean and Safin are struggling with their form at the moment. I actually think clay would be the worst surface for Federer to play Nalbandian, it may be Dave's weakest surface but it fits his counter-punching style perfectly against someone like Federer. The first time they played on tour was two years ago in Monte Carlo, and Federer won three games. He is obviously much improved since then, but so is Nalbandian.

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Actually, i'd like Roger's chances against Nalbandian on clay. His movement is more natural on clay than David's is for one. And i dont agree that Nalbandian is a counter puncher. Sure he is can do it very well, but he prefers to play agressive tennis, pulling his opponent side to side. A bit like Agassi only he's much quicker and a better counter puncher. So Nalbandian will take more risks with his shots, but not over agressive, controlled. I think it'd be a tough match, but i think his chances are better on clay of beating him.

lsy
05-23-2004, 01:56 PM
I hope Rogi does know about this player, or get to look at how he beat Nalbandian recently? Please no overconfident like last year Rogi :tape:

LCeh is right, I'm gonna look at it one match at the time, that worked perfectly in Hamburg ;)

squirrel
05-23-2004, 03:36 PM
is out the schedule for tomorrow http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/scores/schedule/index.html

RogiFan88
05-23-2004, 10:59 PM
L Ceh, if you want info on any ATP players, just check out the site and type in their name and you'll get all their stats, results, you can do a h-to-h on any two players, etc. Some interesting info there!

LCeh
05-23-2004, 11:20 PM
Thanks for the info RogiFan. :)

RogiFan88
05-24-2004, 02:13 AM
you're welcome!

ALLEZ, MON ROGI!!!

Doris Loeffel
05-24-2004, 10:42 AM
Well just good luck Roger

RogiFan88
05-24-2004, 09:22 PM
ALLEZ, ROGI!!

By the time I wake up, Rogi will have finished his match!! Hopefully I'll be able to see some of it... altho I expect them to show the Serena sisters and Jen-Jen.

Shy
05-24-2004, 09:32 PM
Kristof Vliegen has the game to beat Roger if Rogi is way way off. So, good luck Rogi.

tangerine_dream
05-25-2004, 06:02 AM
I'll probably still be either asleep or in transit when Roger's match is on so I will wish Roger good luck in his match tomorrow and I hope to see his name listed as the winner when I read the web news later that day. :)

tschaeggy
05-25-2004, 10:46 AM
6:1 2:2 gooo Rogiiii break him! :worship:

tschaeggy
05-25-2004, 11:37 AM
bravo rogi!! congratulation, you did it :) :banana: :banana: :banana: :smooch: 6:1 6:2 6:1
now good luck for next on thursday??

Dirk
05-25-2004, 11:55 AM
Kiefer is up next? http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/scores/stats/day8/1001ms.html for stats. Everything looks great.

Sjengster
05-25-2004, 12:43 PM
In retrospect, looking at the scoreline I can't believe how worried I was about this match last night and this morning but hey, he had to pass that first-round test and he did it. Kiefer will be a tougher battle even on clay, he won convincingly too, but Federer has a chance to even the head to head if he wins (currently 3-2 to Kiefer, with the last two meetings being split in Halle).

ytben
05-25-2004, 01:25 PM
Good job Rogi!!! He has met the expectation I set for him. So from now on I can follow his match without worrying too much :D
LOL Sjengster, I was also worried sick thinking about this match.

Good luck on your next match Rogi! :bounce:

Dirk
05-25-2004, 01:26 PM
Roger should win in 3 sets. Will be closer than this.

mrpenguin
05-25-2004, 01:30 PM
Indeed, in the next round there could be some racket-throwing
action

kiefer is trying to pull himself out of his grave, so expect some resistance there

Rachiii
05-25-2004, 01:34 PM
The match statistic--

http://wy.njbobo.com/bbs1/UploadFile/200452520115355649.jpg

ytben
05-25-2004, 01:47 PM
Thanks for the stat Rachiii. Looks like Rogi was on fire, anybody watching this match can post any comment about the match?

lsy
05-25-2004, 01:52 PM
In retrospect, looking at the scoreline I can't believe how worried I was about this match last night and this morning but hey, he had to pass that first-round test and he did it. Kiefer will be a tougher battle even on clay, he won convincingly too, but Federer has a chance to even the head to head if he wins (currently 3-2 to Kiefer, with the last two meetings being split in Halle).

me too, me too...and now you're making me all worried again for the match vs kiefer :(

But well done Rogi, he's achieved the 1st goal I'd set for him out of the 7 ;) Keep going!

ytben, you don't get coverage too?

WyveN
05-25-2004, 01:53 PM
i watched it, Vliegen was badly outclassed and couldn't put up much resistance at all.
Vliegen couldn't find the Federer backhand at all and Roger just dominated with his forehand + serve. Roger kept the unforced errors down despite hitting a few of the frame but I suppose that is to be expected in the first round.

Roger tried a bit of everything, serve+volley, drop shots, lobs, passing shots, winners everywhere and it all seemed to work even though his backhand didnt get tested today so that probably helped out.

lsy
05-25-2004, 02:00 PM
Roger kept the unforced errors down despite hitting a few of the frame but I suppose that is to be expected in the first round.

That's very good to hear.


Roger tried a bit of everything, serve+volley, drop shots, lobs, passing shots, winners everywhere and it all seemed to work even though his backhand didnt get tested today so that probably helped out.

sounds like fun to watch ;) but his backhand not tested? *Worried*...coz his backhand can be really :cuckoo:

So he's created 14 break chances and again only made half of them?

Shy
05-25-2004, 02:06 PM
Well, usually if he can beat someone that convincing, it is good news. Usually, when he is having a bad weeks, He struggles from the beginning of a tournament no matter who the opponents are.

WyveN
05-25-2004, 02:17 PM
So he's created 14 break chances and again only made half of them?

hmmm yeah but on the bright side majority of those were Vielgen serving at 0-40 and getting broken at 30-40

LCeh
05-25-2004, 02:54 PM
BTW, at the last set, that lob volley was incredible... haven't even heard of such a shot before...

yanchr
05-25-2004, 02:56 PM
Rogi, what a great job!!! :bounce::bounce::bounce:

I was nervous at work and couldn't focus myself totally... good thing is that I didn't make any big mistake :)

The most important is that Rogi finally won a match in RG in 3 years...it sounds a little pathetic...anyway a good start is halfway the final success. Let's show up in this RG, Rogi!

LCeh
05-25-2004, 02:57 PM
Federer nearly perfect in victory
By Matt Cronin
Tuesday, May 25, 2004

Top-seeded Roger Federer quickly erased the horrid memories of two first exits in 2002 and 2003 by wiping the court with Belgium's Kristof Vliegen 6-1 6-2 6-1 on Tuesday.

"I really tried to focus hard on the first round and be as well prepared as I could," Federer said. "I didn’t want to put a huge amount of pressure on myself and tried to play as simple as possible.

“I just wanted to play solid. I’m extremely happy to be through to the second round and still in the draw."

Playing a heady, patient match and never allowing his opponent to believe for a millisecond that he could shake his confidence, Federer dominated the contest from all angles of the court. The No1 ranked was forceful from his forehand side, served efficiently and produced numerous magical bursts with his much-admired one-handed backhand.

Vliegen got off to a terrible start and never found a way to threaten Federer.

"Things were going very fast," Vliegen said. "I knew in advance that he was playing very well and knew it would be difficult to even win a set. Today, I was not able to find a solution. My level is not the same as his. Federer has all the shots and can count on anything because he has all the weapons to win."

Last year, Federer completely fell apart in a first round loss to Moroccan veteran Hicham Arazi. But this year, he arrived at Roland Garros holding two Grand Slam titles - 2003 Wimbledon and the 2004 Australian Open - and now knows how to lock in on court.

"A year ago I would come in here, think I was the favorite, think I had a good chance of winning. But since I won Grand Slams, I take each match much more seriously," he said.

The 22-year-old was so pleased with his win that he often laughed and joked during his post match press conference and gave praise to Martina Navratilova for helping his game along earlier this year in Hong Kong.

"I asked her to hit with me and she was very happy," Federer said. "She gave me one tip, which is top secret, and it worked."

The 47-year-old Navratilova is scheduled to play her first round singles match later in the day against Argentine Gisela Dulko.

Federer will play either Frenchman Thierry Ascione or German Nicolas Kiefer next and could face three-time Roland Garros champion Gustavo Kuerten in the third round.

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I am so curious now... what would that one tip be? :scratch:

yanchr
05-25-2004, 03:00 PM
Roger tried a bit of everything, serve+volley, drop shots, lobs, passing shots, winners everywhere and it all seemed to work even though his backhand didnt get tested today so that probably helped out.
sounds like Roger took the match as his practice:lol:
But it's good he found himself a chance to train all his weapons to make them sharper. :)

Billabong
05-25-2004, 03:06 PM
I saw the third set, and Rogi played amazing :worship:! Well done Rogi:D!

yanchr
05-25-2004, 03:08 PM
I am so curious now... what would that one tip be? :scratch:
Thanks LCeh for the article :)
I'm also wondering that...
Martina is really good ;)

Mrs. B
05-25-2004, 03:08 PM
Good luck Roger against Kiefer! :bounce:

Go get him!!!!

moonlight
05-25-2004, 03:15 PM
:wavey: thanks to Rachiii for the stats, Wyven for the report and LCeh for the article :hug:
Thanks to Martina for the tip to Roger :D Hope it keeps working.

:yeah: Roger is through the first round. Thanks for taking each match more seriously, Roger :D It will save us from having heart attacks :D
Gooooooooooo, Roger!

tangerine_dream
05-25-2004, 05:06 PM
Hurray! Both my guys made it through the first round. :banana: I'm happy. :D

tangerine_dream
05-25-2004, 05:54 PM
I wonder how many other players were scared shitless when they saw Agassi's early exit? :scratch:

Federer inspired by Agassi exit
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World number one Roger Federer admitted he had drawn inspiration from Andre Agassi's surprising first-round defeat to unknown Frenchman Jerome Haehnel to avoid suffering a similar upset against unseeded Belgian player Kristof Vliegen on Tuesday.

Contrary to American veteran Agassi, who on Monday was ousted from the tournament in straight sets by the French qualifier, Federer, the 2003 Wimbledon and 2004 Australian Open champion, made sure of his place in the second round by hammering Vliegen 6-1 6-2 6-1 on the Suzanne Lenglen court.

"I never thought Agassi would lose but I knew Jerome and his potential as I trained with him a few times," Federer said. "But it proved that anyone can beat you, no matter who you are and which level you are ranked at.

"It shows concentration is a vital element to success."

Federer, 22, bowed out of the tournament's first round both in 2002 and 2003 and revealed he went through a rigorous training programme in the build-up to Roland Garros this year.

"I am so happy I progressed to the second round, this is a relief for me," he added.

"Vliegen started very badly and I took advantage of that.

"I just needed to play regularly throughout the match to win it.

"I followed a very specific mental preparation ahead of the tournament, mainly based on lifting the pressure off myself.

"I also tried to play as simply as possible, deciding not to change anything to my tactics if something went wrong. The key for me is to play solid and efficient tennis. I am also more serious, more concentrated and it works."

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And I agree with Roger's way of thinking. Top seeds are fools if they walk out there on the court thinking they are better than a lower-ranked player and can squeak by without putting much thought to the match. Players should walk out there expecting their opponent to be Superman; that he is going to play the match of his life. Be a boy scout: be prepared! :)

Dirk
05-25-2004, 06:42 PM
Andre played like shit that is why he lost. Andre lacks variety. Had the match been on hardcourt Andre would have won easily. Andre doesn't need to do shit at RG or on clay anymore. Let's see how many qrts Jerome can rank up at the French.

Mrs. B
05-25-2004, 07:23 PM
Swiss Italian tv showed that match again tonight and Roger played well not giving his opponent any chances.
He looked cool in blue, even his socks still looked clean after those 3 sets. :lol:

Vliegen was cute during the handshake, smiling boyishly to the no. 1. He's a scrawnier but cuter version of Andy. ;)

Dirk
05-25-2004, 07:37 PM
Yeah that guy was nice to Roger. Mrs B. I think he is a Rogi fan. Not that I blame him. I love Roger's shirt.

Blaze
05-25-2004, 08:34 PM
BTW, at the last set, that lob volley was incredible... haven't even heard of such a shot before...


Saw that "Lob..Volley" and i was like wow :worship: . It was the highlight of the match for me since we in the US only got to see the third set. It was spectacular.

Also, I thought rogi looked pretty classy today with the blue. He looked like he didn't even sweat nor get any clay on his clothes.

shaoyu
05-25-2004, 08:38 PM
I am angry with myself now that I fell asleep after 3:30am following the scoreboard and didn't wake up at 5am to watch Rogi on ESPN!!!

RogiFan88
05-25-2004, 11:03 PM
yep, Rogi is one of the neatest guys on the tour -- always looks so well-turned-out! we only saw the 3rd set too... well, better than nothing, which is what we got of Juanqui's match! so mad!

RogiFan88
05-25-2004, 11:07 PM
Swiss Italian tv showed that match again tonight and Roger played well not giving his opponent any chances.
He looked cool in blue, even his socks still looked clean after those 3 sets. :lol:

Vliegen was cute during the handshake, smiling boyishly to the no. 1. He's a scrawnier but cuter version of Andy. ;)

Yeah I saw that in the SUI news -- nice friendly handshake and chuckles all round! Very sportsmanlike fr both guys!!

Hee hee scrawnier but cuter... ;)

ALLEZ ROGI!! Il faut battre KIWI!!

Raquel
05-25-2004, 11:55 PM
Well done Rogi :worship:

I only got to see a couple of games of this at the end of the match, but Roger looked very impressive :)

Good Luck Thursday Rogi!

ytben
05-26-2004, 01:25 AM
ytben, you don't get coverage too?

nope, I don't get any either. But I have to go out of town to attend my cousin's wedding so I am not mad since I can't saw it anyway :p

Thanks WyverN for the comments :)

Good luck against Kiefer Rogi! :bounce:

novanora
05-26-2004, 03:48 AM
hey, roger, sorry for my late congrats!!! first round seems a piece of cake for u, even hasn't test u any!! A good start for RG, and come on for your next rounds!!:D

Nymeria
05-26-2004, 08:48 AM
well done Roger :bounce: Good luck next rounds :D

Daniel
05-26-2004, 09:00 AM
Vamos Roger!!!! :yeah: :worship:

yanchr
05-26-2004, 02:12 PM
He looked cool in blue, even his socks still looked clean after those 3 sets. :lol:
You looked sooooooo carefully and closely at Rogi, Mrs. B:lol:

He looked awesome in that bright blue:yeah:, in perfect contrast with the red clay. I love it, even more than the red one. :D

yanchr
05-26-2004, 02:15 PM
I am angry with myself now that I fell asleep after 3:30am following the scoreboard and didn't wake up at 5am to watch Rogi on ESPN!!!
You are forgivable. Considering myself...I once fell asleep when Rogi was playing on TV :rolleyes: How could I :mad: :p

Neely
05-26-2004, 02:22 PM
Haasfan has started a Kiefer vs Federer discussion whether it will be a 3 set parade or an upset in the Roland Garros main forum.

Maybe you want to join the discussion and leave your thoughts about this match, I have already replied, hope some of you will too ;)

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=10962

boKi_BraSil
05-26-2004, 04:40 PM
well , it looks like the third round will be GUGA X FEDERER .......
AND , IF GUGA IS 100% PHISICALY , I THINK GUGA WILL WIN . I LIKE ROGER TOO, BUT GUGA IS THE MASTER ON THE CLAY , AND A LION ON THE COURT .
BUT , LET'S SEE !!!!!!!!!! PLEASE GUGA , RECOVER YOUR HEALTH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:worship: THE ONE AND ONLY KING OF CLAY , AND THE CHAMPION OF THE CHAMPIONS , GUGA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :worship:
GUGA AND RG !!! A SPECIAL LOVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

mitalidas
05-26-2004, 07:32 PM
if Almagro --a quali?-- almost took it to Guga, I dont think Guga has come back to his pre-surgery standard.
Guga has a lot of pride, but their record on Clay (2002 Hamburg TMS, Clay, Q
Germany Clay Q Federer def Kuerten 6 0 1 6 6 2 ) should speak for itself. Having said that, if Guga were to win this, then I want him to go and win the whole thing


well , it looks like the third round will be GUGA X FEDERER .......
AND , IF GUGA IS 100% PHISICALY , I THINK GUGA WILL WIN . I LIKE ROGER TOO, BUT GUGA IS THE MASTER ON THE CLAY , AND A LION ON THE COURT .
BUT , LET'S SEE !!!!!!!!!! PLEASE GUGA , RECOVER YOUR HEALTH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:worship: THE ONE AND ONLY KING OF CLAY , AND THE CHAMPION OF THE CHAMPIONS , GUGA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :worship:
GUGA AND RG !!! A SPECIAL LOVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Dirk
05-26-2004, 07:33 PM
Same here. I just hope the match is on TV.

RogiFan88
05-26-2004, 08:33 PM
ALLEZ, ROGI!

Be wary of Kiwi tomorrow, esp in these damp heavy conditions... I watched the French weather and those heavy clouds are headed to Paris!!

At least my little wish came true today... Mutis upset Pandy!! Not nice to see Justine lose tho -- she was clearly not in condition for this tourney.

Ecstatic about mi Alex beating Paradorn but can he beat Chela??
Yay for Robredo too and Moya!!

mitalidas
05-26-2004, 09:15 PM
Did anyone see this? A nice article.... I just hate reading stuff like this because I fear it jinxes him. Nevertheless:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/3747765.stm

LCeh
05-26-2004, 09:46 PM
Thanks for the article Mitalidas. Don't know what else to say about it, I think we have got one more Rogi fan. :lol:

Yeah, I definitely agree with his analysis of Rogi's first match though. He had an easy opponent, so he was trying out stuff that he rarely gets the chance, like that backhand lob volley.

I hope he can do well tomorrow too.

BTW, how come Roger really seems to glide?? How does he do that? :scratch:

boKi_BraSil
05-26-2004, 10:13 PM
But , you can't forget that in Hamburg 2002 , Guga was playing with the wounded hip, and that was before the operation.
ANd , you cant forget that Guga already won Federer in the hard court in Indian Wells 2x0 7/6 and 6/4 .. :devil:
Well , lets see ...but I think Guga will win !!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's the magic from Guga and Roland Garros !! :D

shaoyu
05-26-2004, 10:14 PM
You are forgivable. Considering myself...I once fell asleep when Rogi was playing on TV :rolleyes: How could I :mad: :p

Thanks yanchr for comforting me:) I shall not miss it again tomorrow morning at 5am! :wavey:

mitalidas
05-26-2004, 10:50 PM
well, cant have it both ways
If Guga was that "wounded" and it hurt so bad, he would have not been playing in Hamburg.
As for Indian Wells, granted. But taking a set 6-0 or 6-1 on Guga, on CLAY, says something much more for Roger, than beating Roger 7-6 on hard says for Guga...
One more thing-- in Hamburg, on CLAY, Guga had an infinite amount of confidence, a multiple-frenchopen winner etc. In Indian Wells last year, Federer was not the player he is today. Add Federer's new confidence, subtract Guga's physical issues, and frankly just add on Federer's better game... and sounds like Federer should take it. IN 4, I say (if he gets through Kiefer first, and likewise if Guga gets there)

But , you can't forget that in Hamburg 2002 , Guga was playing with the wounded hip, and that was before the operation.
ANd , you cant forget that Guga already won Federer in the hard court in Indian Wells 2x0 7/6 and 6/4 .. :devil:
Well , lets see ...but I think Guga will win !!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's the magic from Guga and Roland Garros !! :D

RogiFan88
05-27-2004, 03:12 AM
Rogi's been sliding on clay since he was a kid... he does it well, I think!! I love watching players slide on clay, esp Juanqui, Alex, Albert, Carlos... even Guille!!

ALLEZ, ROGI!!

Dirk
05-27-2004, 07:40 AM
It is true, that Guga's hip injury was the worst thing in my mind to happen to the tour. He would have been number one a lot longer and surely have 4 or maybe 5 RGs by now. Its a real shame. I do think Roger will beat him here. Roger played in terrible conditions against Gaudio in Hamburg so I think he will be successful.

Daniel
05-27-2004, 08:04 AM
Vamos Roger!!! :)

shaoyu
05-27-2004, 08:10 AM
Looks like ESPN is not going to put Roger's match on Thursday, which makes me want the American girls do the same as their counterparts :(

Dirk
05-27-2004, 08:24 AM
What? Roger will be up second though, There are no girls playing at his time? They have to show him.

shaoyu
05-27-2004, 08:32 AM
Looks like they are going to put Capriati and Williamses all on tape delay. The only chance we have is that after they are done showing Capriati, Roger has not finished his match. I assume normally Roger will start his match before 4am Pacific time (1pm Paris local time), but ESPN will definitely finish Capriati's match after 6am (starting at 5am), I would rather Roger finish his match within two hours though rather than seeing him struggling a little bit on TV!

shaoyu
05-27-2004, 08:38 AM
Anyway I am gonna go catch a few hours of sleep. Bye Dirk and hope to see a few of you guys around later during Rogi's match. :wavey:

Dirk
05-27-2004, 10:24 AM
No they will show Roger live. I know it. If he is still on the court, if not then it will be highlights. As long as they show Roger and Guga live. Oh and did they even show any of JC yet? I would hope so.

LCeh
05-27-2004, 02:22 PM
They haven't shown JC yet, and doubt they will.

Great win for Roger today. Tough win, a lot of close points, but he toughed it out. But he gotta pick up his level if he wants to win against Guga. ALLEZ Rogi! :yeah:

mrpenguin
05-27-2004, 02:51 PM
I actually believe Guga will struggle against Roger, not the other way round.

Obvioulsy he can serve better than 14 double faults.

Dirk
05-27-2004, 02:51 PM
http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/scores/stats/day10/1065ms.html

Serving was bad, but he got through. Roger needs to clean it up and S&V against Guga. I hope he brings some drop shots to the match too. Roger will rise to the occasion. :yeah:

lsy
05-27-2004, 03:03 PM
phewww....tight match indeed. 12 dfs is ridiculous, rogi!

from what some of you had described, it didn't seems like he's actually having so many winners than UEs?

btw, where can we get his post match interview? Didn't see any on the RG site?

WyveN
05-27-2004, 03:06 PM
I actually thought Roger played very well from the baseline - not many plain silly unforced errors at all, he was rock solid on key points even in long rallys.

The serve was way of though and it is good this lapse happened against Kiefer rather then Guga, I am sure roger will practice his serve on the practice courts and get it into the groove again.

Kiefer himself played pretty well and his return was amazing which probably contributed to roger's serving woes. In the end roger was very fortunate to win in straight sets and he should be very pleased

Dirk
05-27-2004, 03:20 PM
S&V against Guga if his serve is working will do wonders against Guga. I just hope Roger is ready to play his best.

lsy
05-27-2004, 03:25 PM
Thanks for the report, WyveN :) Sounds like a good match from both.

That didn't sound that bad as it seemed. That'll make me less nervous for the next 2 days ;) It's great that he's playing those big points well and steady, that's most important ultimately.

Don't understand the logic of me getting all matches for TMC but only the QF onwards for all slams??? :mad:

lsy
05-27-2004, 03:26 PM
But I guess his net game isn't that solid today from the stats it seems?

WyveN
05-27-2004, 03:51 PM
That didn't sound that bad as it seemed. That'll make me less nervous for the next 2 days ;) It's great that he's playing those big points well and steady, that's most important ultimately.


yep, Roger played pretty well - certainly not the form he showed versus Hewitt but I think he would be pretty happy with his groundstroke game. The vast majority of the games in which Kiefer broke serve, Federer would serve at least 1 double fault and there was a tactical mistake of persisting to serve to Kiefer's backhand which he got amazing returns from.

Roger's play on key points was excellent, 12 months ago he would let nerves get to him and it is great to see he has improved in that area.

yeah net game wasn't terrific but Kiefer put a lot of pressure through good passing shots. Kiefer deserved at least 1 set and if it went into a 4th who knows what would happen but these are the kind of breaks you need in order to survive the fitness test of the FO :)

Dirk
05-27-2004, 04:00 PM
20 out of 30 is pretty good. I just hope Roger is better for Guga. He said to Chris Fowler Kiefer didn't give him rhythm. Guga does he said so he expects it to go better. Roger will do everything he can to win. He said he will be ready.

Dirk
05-27-2004, 04:02 PM
Roger stayed away from the net for the most part in set 3. His slice backhand volley that hit the line was beautiful in the breaker. Roger's backhand passing shot was off too. He has things to work on but I think his serving will be better and that will help him. I hope he is ready for the fans though. I hope Roger can hit the courts again today. He knows what he needs to work on.

lsy
05-27-2004, 04:05 PM
I don't understand why is he going so much on his serves??? Unless he's not confident enough and want to finish off points quick and easy? But if he's playing well on all other aspects, he should at least play safe on the serves. Or I guess his serves is just totally off today.

I too feel like his whole attitude taking on matches seem to have changed quite significantly. I guess winning that slam and getting to no.1 really did take off huge loads off him.


yeah net game wasn't terrific but Kiefer put a lot of pressure through good passing shots. Kiefer deserved at least 1 set and if it went into a 4th who knows what would happen but these are the kind of breaks you need in order to survive the fitness test of the FO :)

Funny I was just thinking of wanting to see Rogi in a marathon 5 sets match that day...maybe down 2 sets then come back to win those types...but then decided that'll be too much for me :o

mrpenguin
05-27-2004, 04:10 PM
Potito Storace with whom Roger trained yesterday, is actually killing Grosjean.
This guy is comming out of nowhere and I guess Roger noticed his talent ?

LCeh
05-27-2004, 04:11 PM
:lol: lsy. Well, Roger went for so much in his first serves was because Kiefer was attacking his second serves. He needed to get good serves in or he will be on the defensive end. Kiefer returned EXTREMELY well today, which gave Roger tons of trouble.

mrpenguin
05-27-2004, 04:17 PM
Take it easy, isy, five setters aren't good for Roger . Fast & Furious wins is how we like them.
(and yes I'm contradicting my previous posts but I guess it's better this way )
Guga is a bit slow, and I don't think he's going to notice when Roger will steal that first set from under him

lsy
05-27-2004, 04:29 PM
Take it easy, isy

sounds pretty good huh? ;) but it's actually "l" and not "i" :p

Thanks for all these reports, guys. Really appreciate it, keep them coming.

mrpenguin
05-27-2004, 05:00 PM
Well, Roger's practice partner Starace just defeated Grosjean in 3.
I wonder who benefitted most from that practice session ...

mitalidas
05-27-2004, 06:17 PM
its there now, http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/news/interviews/index.html

and jc is out everybody

phewww....tight match indeed. 12 dfs is ridiculous, rogi!

from what some of you had described, it didn't seems like he's actually having so many winners than UEs?

btw, where can we get his post match interview? Didn't see any on the RG site?

yanchr
05-27-2004, 08:01 PM
Roger's play on key points was excellent, 12 months ago he would let nerves get to him and it is great to see he has improved in that area.
Yeah, quite impressive crucial points play from Roger :worship: I think that makes the difference. He was serving crap on the whole today, but when he needed it to save him out of trouble it did work for him :eek: . I'm just wondering how Roger could jump such a big step to improve his mental strength on crucial points ever since last TMC. seems like comes out of nowhere :confused: :D
yeah net game wasn't terrific but Kiefer put a lot of pressure through good passing shots. Kiefer deserved at least 1 set and if it went into a 4th who knows what would happen but these are the kind of breaks you need in order to survive the fitness test of the FO :)
Agree. Kiefer was playing great I think. He probably deserved a set. But I simply wouldn't let it ;) Have bored enough through the 2nd set where they were playing break games ;)

yanchr
05-27-2004, 08:04 PM
Good luck against Guga :) Hope I can get to watch the match. Go Roger!

Mrs. B
05-27-2004, 09:06 PM
it wasn't a thriller, and Roger somehow drifted mentally in the 3rd, Kiefer led 6-4 in the tb, just glad he pulled through, and hope he'll be serving better against Guga.

wow, the match of the day definitely is Marat's and Mantilla. It's 7 all in the 5th set and because of the dying light they have to continue tomorrow. :worship:

Looking forward to Roger & Guga's match. They showed him tonight wearing a small mike while he played some balls with one of the German commentators of Eurosport. :)
He sounds like he has a cold.

RogiFan88
05-27-2004, 09:14 PM
Am I happy that Rogi won despite his less than stellar play v. Kiwi, who was pressuring Rogi w his S&V style [good net pts] and great returns. TB was nervewracking to say the least but Kiwi choked at the most crucial stage.

I will be even more nervous for Guga tho... if he plays as well as he has been, and gets the crowds, which he will, being le chouchou de RG, and he's won 3x on Chatrier, and he's the better clay player, and Rogi doesn't pick up his level, then I will be the one to cry next...

Poor Juanqui, he was brave to play this tourney, w his Spanish pride... at least he won the 1st v. Haas -- wish we could have seen it.

Marat... what a crazy Russian -- I love him! Poor PL tho... bet he didn't bargain for so much wackiness when he took him on. So PL congratulated Rogi on his win v. Vliegen, in the locker room... nice of him!!

I just want Hewitt out... nutty that HE goes thru and Juanqui is out... ridiculous. I shall be cheering for my Spanish guys tomorrow: Carlos, Alex and Tommy!! VAMOS!!

I see Allegro/Kohlmann won their dbles -- cool!!

And pls, Marat, just win it tomorrow.

Allez, Amelie!!

ALLEZ, mon ROGI!!!

Nice they interview him... he is looking cuter than ever... but he is cautious... smart! Smart that he practised w Potito!!

Lots of troublesome guys for Rogi: Lopez, Nalby, Safin/Mantilla! Crazy Gaudio keeps winning too... what a time not to choke.

RogiFan88
05-27-2004, 09:19 PM
yep Rogi has a cold... still

moonlight
05-27-2004, 09:47 PM
Get well soon, Roger :)

Hope you play your best against Guga. Allez Rogi! :banana:

thanks for your reports, everyone :wavey: me not being able to see the macth, having your reports to read kinda makes up fot it.

Nymeria
05-27-2004, 11:16 PM
Get well soon Roger! (I would like to post a kiss-smiley now, but I better cannot do that, since I've a cold myself too and I would only make him feeling worse :p)

Good luck against Guga :)

Dirk
05-27-2004, 11:52 PM
Roger better not have a cold damn it.

mrpenguin
05-28-2004, 10:19 AM
he has a cold. probably his own fault leaving the hotel without his furry hat in mid-spring !!!

I think it's time that we collectively coach him !!!

rogicomel
05-28-2004, 11:44 AM
What? Rogi has a cold??? Am I infecting him coz I had it since Monday...

Get well soon, Rogi! Roland Garros would be less fun without you...

Dirk
05-28-2004, 12:37 PM
I don't think its serious. I didn't notice it during his interviews. There has been a virus going around so.... Roger has played many matches and never got sick. Wells was just an incident nothing more.

WyveN
05-28-2004, 05:30 PM
Tomorrow is the key match for Roger in this campaign, hopefully he realises this and raises his level.

RogiFan88
05-28-2004, 09:14 PM
Allez, Rogi! Pass this tough test v. Guga and you s have more confidence to continue into the 2nd week!!

ytben
05-29-2004, 03:37 AM
Good luck Rogi against Guga! :bounce:

rogicomel
05-29-2004, 07:40 AM
I'm a bit nervouse ahead of Rogi's 3rd rd encounter vs Guga but I believe in our champ!


Goooooo Rogi!!!

ytben
05-29-2004, 09:33 AM
Don't understand the logic of me getting all matches for TMC but only the QF onwards for all slams??? :mad:

:mad:Are you serious? Since I think we have the same coverage. BTW I didn't find any FO in the StarSports schedule, do we not get any coverage at all???

lsy
05-29-2004, 09:44 AM
:mad:Are you serious? Since I think we have the same coverage. BTW I didn't find any FO in the StarSports schedule, do we not get any coverage at all???

None from starsports for FO apparently, will be in eurosports for me ytben.

But starsports will cover wimby from 1st rounds onwards it seems.

ytben
05-29-2004, 10:04 AM
None from starsports for FO apparently, will be in eurosports for me ytben.

But starsports will cover wimby from 1st rounds onwards it seems.

Ah gotcha, thanks! I don't get eurosports so no FO coverage for me at all then :rolleyes:

mrpenguin
05-29-2004, 12:56 PM
Roger seems off and makes lots of mistakes, not playing his game
right now

His body language is not good, seems worried, while

Guga seems really relaxed and playing

mrpenguin
05-29-2004, 01:11 PM
Roger is looking really bad, he doesn't have any solution yet,
just nothing's working!!!
He needs to start taking some risks

mitalidas
05-29-2004, 01:34 PM
it just looks like hes played a lot of the big points poorly.... poor Rogi... two sets to love down, but the stats are very very similar between the two of them right now. Pray for a successful end to a five-setter for Rogi

mrpenguin
05-29-2004, 01:56 PM
Roger is so passive. he needs to get back his confidence somehow.
Good lord he needs a break - he's got 0 confidence,
a break now or it's over

moonlight
05-29-2004, 02:19 PM
Roger :sad:

Now you can focus on your first priority Wimbledon now :D GOOD LUCK!

mrpenguin
05-29-2004, 02:21 PM
Roger lost in 3, played too conservatively for whatever reason.
GUga was attacking much more than Roger, and he deserved the win.

There's no way anybody can beat Guga by playing that conservatively

Shy
05-29-2004, 02:30 PM
Congrats Roger on passing the first round.Better luck next time.

lsy
05-29-2004, 02:33 PM
I wish I get to watch this match really.

Can any of you give us any reports if you had watched the match?

tschaeggy
05-29-2004, 02:47 PM
so sorry for you roger :sad: but guga really played a very good tennis and your serve wasn't that good :confused: . now focus on wimby or first also halle??

Skyward
05-29-2004, 02:54 PM
Hi, I 'm new here :wavey:

I couldn't see the match. What happened to his serve? Hope he is not injured. It would be important to get it back by Wimby.

Neely
05-29-2004, 03:02 PM
Hi, I 'm new here :wavey:

I couldn't see the match. What happened to his serve? Hope he is not injured. It would be important to get it back by Wimby.
he is not injured, at least he didn't mention it and I couldn't see anything while on the court

TV showed a short extract of Federer's press conference and he said that he has no clue what went wrong that he went out in three straight sets of this tournament. He said Guga played very well and served very well and that his game was not good enough to beat Guga today. He didn't have an explanation what was wrong with him today, he said Guga was just too strong.

we will have more details when we have the written version of the press conference.

RogiFan88
05-29-2004, 03:08 PM
It was not to be, Rogi but at least you lost to THE RG champ, Guga. Congrats to Guga, hope he keeps going!

Had this feeling about Rogi this slam and I was right.

Rogi gained some pts at least and no shame in losing to Guga!

Time to rest up [after playing and winning so much this yr already] and prepare for HIS season now.

I w have liked Rogi to make the 2nd wk but 3rd rd is better then 1st!!

When he was struggling v. Kiwi, I knew he w not make it today v. Guga... hope he learned some strategy fr him!

Sounds like Rogi was ever the gracious loser today, praising Guga -- good boy, Rogi!!

Dirk
05-29-2004, 03:09 PM
Well I hope he can figure out what it is. He was shaky looking in his Kiefer match. Sorry he couldn't fix those problems. Roger didn't walk into this match believing he could win it and though he did raise his serving and his stats overall are clean he made too many mistakes when it mattered. His backhand side broke down and I don't know how since Roger's backhand can with stand Andre's groundies. I just hope he finds an answer. I also hope Guga wins the event. I think he really could. I just hope he wins his next match in 3 sets too. Guga needs his energy since he lost stamina due to his hip injury.

WyveN
05-29-2004, 03:18 PM
Well I thought Kuerten had a pretty good chance at beating Roger and that proved true.

The lack of fight is a bit dissapointing though, would have liked to see Roger dig deep and at least get a set.

Haven't seen the match but sounds like Roger was just outplayed and on the bright side at least his strongest period of the season is only a week away.

lsy
05-29-2004, 03:18 PM
he is not injured, at least he didn't mention it and I couldn't see anything while on the court

TV showed a short extract of Federer's press conference and he said that he has no clue what went wrong that he went out in three straight sets of this tournament. He said Guga played very well and served very well and that his game was not good enough to beat Guga today. He didn't have an explanation what was wrong with him today, he said Guga was just too strong.

we will have more details when we have the written version of the press conference.

Thanks Neely for that.

Good that he knew his game wasn't good enough to beat guga today. Hopefully he'll get a tape and learn from it. I'd love to get to watch this match really. I like the fact that he never gives any excuses for losses, no matter how bad the loss is. Good on you Rogi.

Hi Skyward :), and you choose such a sad day to come in and say hi to all of us? ;)

Skyward
05-29-2004, 03:31 PM
Hi Skyward :), and you choose such a sad day to come in and say hi to all of us? ;)

I have been lurking for a long time. Just couldn't bear pain from Roger's loss alone. :sad:

Hope he will get more reasonable draw at Wimby. The highest ranked unseeded palyer in round 2 and the most dangerous floater-3 time RG champ next round is too tough and unfair.

moonlight
05-29-2004, 03:34 PM
"He deserves it, he won three times here. He played really well, he deserved the crowd's support, he deserved to win," the Swiss said.

Source: http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml?type=tennisNews&storyID=5293302&section=news

:wavey: Skyward :hug:

lsy
05-29-2004, 03:38 PM
I have been lurking for a long time. Just couldn't bear a pain from Roger's loss alone. :sad:

Hope he will get more reasonable draw at Wimby. The highest ranked unseeded palyer in round 2 and the most dangerous floater-3 time RG champ next round is too tough and unfair.

Just teasing you. I know how you feel :sad:

Never mind about the draw, he's had it all, easy, tough, so so. Most importantly is for him to get a clue how he lost today and bounce back strongly next year.

He always comes back strongly after a loss, hopefully that'll mean wimby. One of his main goal this year.

moonlight
05-29-2004, 03:42 PM
"He was really at the top of his form and the crowd was totally bewhind him," said Federer. "There was nothing I could do."

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/SPORT/05/29/tennis.men/

Poor Roger :sad: we are right here behind you.

LCeh
05-29-2004, 03:52 PM
:sad: It's okay Roger. You improved a lot from last year, and now you have a week before Halle. Get lots of rest, train hard, and hopefully defend your points there!

lsy
05-29-2004, 04:04 PM
poor rogi... :sad:

ok since I don't get to watch the match, other than Guga great performance, I'm gonna blame it on that blue shirt :mad: Get back to your winning red shirt, Rogi!!! :mad: :o

LCeh
05-29-2004, 04:07 PM
:lol: lsy. The blue shirt looks great! Maybe the better he looks, the worse he plays... :scratch:

lsy
05-29-2004, 04:09 PM
:lol: lsy. The blue shirt looks great! Maybe the better he looks, the worse he plays... :scratch:

I think so LCeh, I think so...

so it's the EVILLLLL blue shirt :mad: :mad:

Rogi, you have to get rid of them :p

Dirk
05-29-2004, 04:20 PM
Q. Can you analyze a little bit the match? It wasn't a great match, was it? >

ROGER FEDERER: You did analyze it (smiling).

Well, you know, obviously I want to know right away myself, too, why I lost, why this match was straight sets, why it was rather comfortable for Guga.

Right now I don't know really because I think -- all I can say is I think he served good today and he was better. That's all I can really say because I tried everything I could, but my game was just not good enough.

Q. Is it possibly a problem that you have no one to turn to right now to consult about why things aren't going well for you, you don't have a coach?>

ROGER FEDERER: No, that's not the problem.

Q. You seemed to have a bit of trouble with your footwork. You didn't seem very confident in your footing on the court. Can you tell us what problems you're having? >

ROGER FEDERER: Slippery court. That's really all I can say. I mean, I've been playing most of my time now on rather wet courts where it's I wouldn't say easier, it's more dangerous to move on, you don't slide as long. I already felt against Kiefer that I was just late because conditions are faster when it's hot like this. I tend to slide a little bit too early, so I lose my balance, lose my, you know, coordination. Similar to what happened today.

Then, you know, when I turn around my backhand, hit a forehand, I'm scared I'm going to totally fall down sometimes. Like I experienced it twice, I almost fell. This was the problem. So I lost a little bit confidence in my footwork. That is true that that was a problem for me. Up until then, since Hamburg, I've been moving very well in the clay, but today wasn't the best.

Q. You didn't seem very happy with your racquet either. In fact, you didn't seem very happy at all with your game. Is that the case today? >

ROGER FEDERER: Well, you know, like I said, it was very hot today, so the balls are flying, you know, very much. Ball bounces high because the court plays faster. You know the conditions are fast. I was just finding the right racquet to be able to control the ball because I was struggling with it and Guga wasn't. And that was my problem today.

Q. To see you not use your best weapons today, not to be able to hit your inside-out forehand, for example, to miss so many volleys today, miss an overhead, can you explain why all those things disappeared in the same match?

ROGER FEDERER: I mean, I put it down, you know, on his good performance really. That's all I can do, you know. I'm definitely not happy with the game today, but I tried.

I don't know, he didn't give me too much of a chance. He wasn't missing much. A little feeling I have, too, is the balls are rather slow here. I'm not hitting many forehand winners this week at all. In Hamburg I was giving the ball unbelievable amount of spins. And here it seems like I'm doing the same, but my opponent is just there to smack it really. So this is for me a little bit of a problem this week. I could never really get ahold of the ball.

Like today, I was struggling with my footwork, then I lost confidence. At the net, obviously, I missed a lot of volleys. But, you know, that can happen. So it's not a disaster.

Q. Can you say something about the crowd, thousands of people shouting, "Guga, Guga"?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, he deserves it. He's a fair player. He won this tournament many times. So he deserves everything, you know, what the fans give him here. He's a great guy. Yeah, it was nice to play in this crowd because it was very fair from beginning to end, and that was the most important.

Q. You mentioned in your last interview about finding the right tone between being offensive and not making a lot of mistakes. It seemed like right from the beginning you didn't find that right amount of being on the attack or not making mistakes.

ROGER FEDERER: Well, I was definitely serving better today, you know. But, like I said, I wasn't getting the winners I normally get on this court. It's got something to do with his game. You know, he hits the ball deep into the court and rather hard, you know. He's got a good backhand, you know, which always keeps me -- he can hold me either on the backhand or go up the line himself and play aggressive.

I think my game today had a lot to do with his game. Obviously, usually, I can control these kind of matches, but today I couldn't. That's a credit to him. That's all I'm going to say. I'm not going to start saying that my backhand or my forehand or my footwork, you know, was bad. We all know it wasn't the best, but that's got something to do with my opponent.

Q. After the second set, you got much more aggressive with the service return. That wasn't the way you wanted to play when you started this match. What was your thinking about the conservative game plan you came out with on his serve today in the opening sets?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, the thing was that the conditions were slower in the beginning. You know, obviously they put water on the court. As the match went on really the conditions got really, really fast, and I was just struggling on the return. I was not quite sure if I should stay in and play aggressive on the return or do it a little bit his style and really stand back and just make sure I make the first return.

So, yeah, I was looking a little bit how I should return, because, you know, he was ahead, so I had to change something. That's always a bad position.

Q. Which would you say is the toughest Grand Slam for you and which is the easiest one of the four?

ROGER FEDERER: There is no easy one, first of all. You know, the toughest one for me obviously seems the French Open because the last three years haven't been the best for me here. You know, like matches today where I never get the grip of the match really, of the sensations. This is what's a little bit worrying for me, you know, that I didn't -- I just didn't play like I can really, and I lost.

This is for me a little bit of a disappointment. I know I can play much better or do better. Just doesn't work. This is for me a disappointment, this week. For me, this one obviously seems the most difficult.

Q. What in the future do you think you have to do to unlock the mystery to get that feel on a clay court?

ROGER FEDERER: The problem is not the clay court. The problem is, you know, rather something to do with the conditions on center court. Because I've played well on Suzanne Lenglen, on the other courts. But the Chatrier court is really, really big, and I just haven't had enough play on it. Maybe I come here next year and play a week on this court, if I can, if the French Federation lets me. We'll see.

I've been playing well in other tournaments, in Davis Cup on clay. So for me it's not the surface, it's rather maybe the court.

Q. Very often you try to hit your backhand looking for down the line or cross-court looking for winner. You also hit slice. Do you think maybe that was more wise to try to keep the ball in, play tactical shots?

ROGER FEDERER: I'm not going to start analyzing with you guys my match. I don't want to tell you I should have played more slice or more topspin or kick or more slice serve. I don't really care what I did.

Now it's over. The tournament is over. I will come back next year and try to do better and prepare for grass. What can I do now? Start analyzing the match with the media people? I don't think it's the right thing to do right now.

Q. You met Guga two times before this and beat him on the clay. Will you be able to compare something about this match today and the past against him? Was he today better than ever against you?

ROGER FEDERER: What can I say? The match, you know, in Hamburg, I won the first set 6-Love. I played unbelievable tennis, and I was serving well, I was hitting my forehand incredible. You know, he got back in the match. I got a little nervous.

In the third set, I got the better start. I was really playing well. I think he was coming back from injury there, too. I ran away with the lead.

Two times I lost, you know, he played good matches. You know, he didn't miss much. I was really strong with his serve. I remember also in Indian Wells he was hitting a lot of service winners and aces. It was similar again today because I thought he has a great serve, especially his first serve, and he's very consistent. I cannot really read it, where it's coming. I think that's his big weapon against me.

Q. Your friend comes from Slovakia, her parents. Her mother told me you can speak some Slovak words.

ROGER FEDERER: I don't, and I won't if I can't (laughter).

Q. You can try.

ROGER FEDERER: No.

THE MODERATOR: National language questions, please.

Q. Concerning this debate on the fact that you're a clay court specialist or not, the fact that Kuerten is on his best court, his best surface, did you ever think at some point in the match that you weren't going to make it?

ROGER FEDERER: During the match?

Q. Do you feel like you didn't belong on that court?

ROGER FEDERER: No. I've done worse against Henman in Rotterdam where I had the feeling everything was going against me. This is not the feeling I had today. I felt I had a chance to win this match. Even at 6-4, 6-4, 5-4, I still felt I could win this match.

You've got to believe it in such a situation, particularly in a Grand Slam. I don't think it's an illusion. I know that if I could have gone back into that match at that point and played better, I still knew I had an opportunity to win this match, and now it's too late.

Q. The clay season is relatively short. Haven't you missed out on a few matches to reach the level of Kuerten today?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, I do play a lot. I win a lot, I play a lot. I mean, you've got to take a bit of rest once in a while. So maybe if I played Monte-Carlo, Barcelona, every single tournament, I would have got here exhausted. That's not the best idea either.

I prepared as I have prepared in the past two years. It's always gone well for me. I played well. I came here with a degree of confidence. But my opponent played better than me. He played very well. This doesn't mean that I have to change my preparation for next year. Clearly, I'm going to have to think about it because there's always room for improvement. That's what I'm going to do over the coming months, to figure out how I'm going to get prepared for next year.

I mean, there's always a difference. In the Davis Cup after Miami next year it will be a different question.

Q. When you saw Guga in the third round would be your opponent, did you think it would be a difficult match or did you think that he had been injured, he wasn't going to play very well?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, I think anyone like Guga or Ferrero have come here to play good tennis. They're not just here for fun. They're thinking about their career. If they're injured, that's not good for their future, that's not good for their career. So when you see that they're playing, obviously I was expecting a difficult match. But I had to concentrate on my first and second round because they have created difficulties for me in the past.

It's true that when I saw he had so many difficulties getting in the first round, I thought that at least he was having problems, and that gave me a bit more confidence because I was even more afraid of Guga to begin with. But he was stronger than I thought today.

yanchr
05-29-2004, 05:01 PM
:sad::sad::sad::sad: It did seem like Rogi was outplayed today by a returning and in-form Guga...but so frustrating a scoreline :sad:

Hopefully Rogi did get back soon and focus on his Wimbly...anyway Wimbly is above all the most important for him...

Poor Rogi...
Gooooooo I'm always behind you :)

yanchr
05-29-2004, 05:13 PM
Thanks Dirk

I do think Rogi gave a very good interview today...yes he always did...but this time sounded a little different from before...very decent and detailed answers and always the classy him...thank god he still felt he could win the match even down 0:2, 4:5...very positive attitude...happy to see that...but next time pls Rogi, put it into practice...that would be better ;)

Dirk
05-29-2004, 05:36 PM
I'm sure Roger did put it into practice. He listed all the factors out there besides Guga. The changing conditions which made him confused about his returning, his sliding uncontrollable and falling which is terrible for the footwork confidence, the center court confidence, the backhand failing. I'm sure Roger knows why they all failed and if I reread the interview I could quote them for you, but Roger is not going to talk about how badly he played which would detract from Guga's great play. Prehaps if the match was played last when the court was dry and hot and fast then things might have been better for Roger. Roger does great things to prepare and today he was not able to overcome certain problems. Next year he will be able to apply what he learned today and do better.

shaoyu
05-29-2004, 05:39 PM
Q. Concerning this debate on the fact that you're a clay court specialist or not, the fact that Kuerten is on his best court, his best surface, did you ever think at some point in the match that you weren't going to make it?

ROGER FEDERER: During the match?

Q. Do you feel like you didn't belong on that court?

ROGER FEDERER: No. I've done worse against Henman in Rotterdam where I had the feeling everything was going against me. This is not the feeling I had today. I felt I had a chance to win this match. Even at 6-4, 6-4, 5-4, I still felt I could win this match.

You've got to believe it in such a situation, particularly in a Grand Slam. I don't think it's an illusion. I know that if I could have gone back into that match at that point and played better, I still knew I had an opportunity to win this match, and now it's too late.


I like it that you always believed you could win during the match, Roger. I believed it too. But it was unfortunate that you couldn't bring your best today. I never expect you to win everything, though it remains a secret dream that you eventually do it. Nobody can always play his best. To me you are still one step above the others, but Roland Garros is obviously the toughest one for you. May you win it eventually! :bounce:

Dirk
05-29-2004, 05:48 PM
Roger is only 22, he has plenty of years left to win it more than once.

tangerine_dream
05-29-2004, 05:57 PM
I'm not worried about this. Losing to a three-time RG champion? No shame in that loss. It was simply Guga's time. Good effort, Roger. At least you made it to third round. :hug:

Now on you go to dominate grass and make everyone piss in their pants. :lol:

Dirk
05-29-2004, 06:51 PM
Ah good, Dream will spare Roger from her avator. I almost feel sorry for Andy. Hey if Mutis makes the 4th rd will you reconsider calling that Mutis loss a bad one?

RogiFan88
05-29-2004, 09:45 PM
I just hope that Rogi doesn't think he can never win RG... he seems v disappointed in his short-lived run, even a tiny bit bitter in his interview [but then they w have to ask him some stupid Qs]. He was gracious anyway and acknowledged the superiority of Guga on RG centre court clay.

See Rogi, consistency is extremely important. And Guga DOES have a beautiful BH. In fact, Guga was born to play tennis -- HE's the magician, not Santoro or Coria -- his tennis is v natural -- he doesn't have to think about it nor work too hard at it -- it simply flows off his racquet, as if the racquet were an extension to his arm.

Guga definitely is THE most beloved of all players at RG; he even attempts to speak French, as faulty as it is, but he made the effort. [that's the only thing I thought Juanqui s have done last yr -- at least said Merci beaucoup! Alex's French is pretty good, so is Arantxa's -- the French really appreciate it -- another reason I w love to see Rogi win RG one day].

I think now Rogi didn't have the belief that he could win this slam, fr the beginning. Perhaps next yr he can turn that around, and focus more on a strategy [I keep saying this] for higher success on the clay -- play Barcelona also -- one of THE toughest clay tourneys w most of the top players [Spanish and Argies esp] -- that w be a real test for Rogi, imo.

Anyway, sadly this is the end for Rogi in Paris... a shame... but he never really looked that comfortable... I think he still has some jitters on Chatrier [and it doesn't help when the journalists keep harping on about it... ]. Well he's won 1 match there so far... he needs more experience to truly quell his fears.

Mrs. B
05-29-2004, 10:22 PM
Roger looked and played like he didn't believe in his chances against Guga. He looked at times lost there and didn't really know what to do, credit to Guga he was playing his old form that won him 3 RG titles. But i just thought that Roger would give him a real fight. I thought he had a chance to win that 3rd set as he was putting pressure in the first few games and hitting the ball harder. But overall, he missed too many balls, he played defensively, and Guga was on. imo Roger was insecure playing against Guga on center court with the crowd loudly supporting the old champ.

Somebody mentioned that Roger get a tape and watch this match and learn from it. He should. Some of his shot selections today baffled me a bit.
But hey, really no shame in losing to a 3time RG champ. and he did make it to the 3rd round this year, hope he makes the 4th round next year... ;)

moving on...time to get ready for grass and hopefully defend his title in Wimbledon.

and good luck to Guga. Hope he makes it all the way to the finals. If he continues playing like he did today, he might grab a 4th title yet at RG.

LCeh
05-29-2004, 10:49 PM
His backhand is definitely not strong enough. I think he needs to make his TMC 03 backhand consistant if he wants to do well against attacking baseliners on clay.

ytben
05-30-2004, 02:27 AM
Rogi :sad: but I still consider his clay season a good one. And he has passed the first round so I am not that dissappointed about this loss. And I like Guga which help as well. It will make a wonderful story if Guga's able to win the whole thing. Go Guga! Good luck next year Rogi!

Now onto the grass season. Hopes Rogi can defend his Wimbly crown. Go Rogi :bounce:

Dirk
05-30-2004, 03:37 AM
Roger's backhand is strong enough. That was clear in his Andre match in the Cup finals. Sure its better some days more than others but Guga's wasn't overpowering his but simply had too much spin on it to control. Roger should have offensively sliced it some more. I'm sure Roger knows what he did wrong and next year he will do better. Did anyone read that interview I posted. Guga's great play along with Roger's shaky start, changing conditions which threw his movement and returning led to Roger's demise. Had this match been played last when it was always fast and hot, Roger might have won it. Clearly Roger was confused today and couldn't adjust. Roger didn't look good in his Kiefer match and still talks about his Center Court discomfort. Roger will only get better over time. I do hope Guga can win a 4th one. He does still have the best backhand only thing Roger does is take it early. Rogifan88, I love Guga too and he is a special talent as well, but if his talent was natural he never ever would have taken up the open stance forehand which has led to his career threatening injury. So I disagree on that one. I'm just glad Roger doesn't have the same flawed striking motion. Oh by the way I'm almost done with my Hamburg Ninja mission story, so hopefully that will cheer us up. :)

lsy
05-30-2004, 08:29 AM
Took me a good night sleep, nice hair cut to finally get over this loss though still unhappy with his performance especially from what some of you had described.

But now looking at how other players behaved on court, I'm happy that at least Rogi's still one of the fairest player on court. Never try to do anything to disrupt opponents rhythm even when he's down and always give fair and honest interview. Good for him.

Come to think of it though...maybe Rogi should pick up a few of those dirty tricks also??? nah...nope, I still believe in playing fair and win.

Dirk
05-30-2004, 12:12 PM
Let's not fret over this loss. Guga better go far in this event. Roger will be back next year and be stronger. I just don't get the bad vibes he gets on Center Court there. I hope they do let him play more on it next year. Is footwork thanks to the damn changing conditions fucked up his movement. That blurred into his returning ability. I'm sorry but I don't care how well Guga served, Roger's return was shitty. Roger is the best returner on the tour because he can be agassi like on both sides plus he can send the ball back at a slower pace and with slice on it. He just has more variety on it than anybody. Roger will do better next year. He still has Gstaad, but for now its grass season. We all know Roger was working on his S&V game during his break after DC because he was doing it a lot in Rome. So now he gets to work on it some more. Go Rogi, cleanse the holyland once again.

RogiFan88
05-31-2004, 05:50 PM
HOpefully, Rogi will have more BELIEF that he can win RG next yr... w a clay strategy and some fine-tuning of some shots, i.e., that lovely BH of his, and some strategically played tourneys, e.g., Barcelona, he can and will do it one day!

Rogi s not feel too badly cos Guga is STILL dominating and into the QFs v. one of Rogi's nemeses, Nalby!! S be an interesting showdown. I shall cheer for whoever can ultimately take out Guille.

Skyward
05-31-2004, 07:25 PM
Roger can draw some confidence from the fact that he beat four out of eight RG quaterfinalists on clay this season.

tomcat
05-31-2004, 07:35 PM
He'll win RG in next 3 years I'm sure.

shaoyu
05-31-2004, 07:38 PM
Roger can draw some confidence from the fact that he beat four out of eight RG quaterfinalists on clay this season.

Absolutely. Roger is going to be one of the favorites to win RG every year for the next several years. Guga better win this year or I'll hold him responsible :fiery: :angel: ;)

RogiFan88
06-01-2004, 04:26 AM
shaoyu, lol!