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U.S. soldier sentenced to 110 years for Iraq murders

safin-rules-no.1
08-05-2007, 09:54 AM
CHICAGO (Reuters) - A U.S. soldier convicted by a military court in the gang **** and murder of a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and the killing of her family was sentenced to 110 years in prison on Saturday, the Army said.

Pvt. Jesse Spielman, 22, received a dishonourable discharge after being found guilty of four counts of murder, ****, conspiracy to commit **** and housebreaking with the intent to commit **** by a military court at Ft. Campbell, Kentucky.

Spielman was one of five soldiers charged in the March 2006 attack on the family in Mahmudiya, south of Baghdad. Three soldiers previously pleaded guilty in the case and were given sentences ranging from five to 100 years.

Spielman, the court found, participated in the planning of the attack as the soldiers drank whiskey and played cards, and acted as a lookout.

At the start of the weeklong hearing, Spielman pleaded guilty to wrongful touching of a corpse, arson, obstructing justice and violating rules against drinking alcohol in a war zone.

Sgt. Paul Cortez and Specialist James Barker were sentenced to 90 years and 100 years in prison, respectively.

The accused ringleader, former Pvt. Steven Green, was discharged from the Army for a "personality disorder" and awaits trial in a civilian court. He has pleaded not guilty and faces a possible death sentence.

Cortez and Barker, who both testified at Spielman's court-martial, admitted ****** the girl, Abeer Qassim al-Janabiat, and said Green shot her parents and younger sister. Green then ***** the girl and killed her, and they poured kerosene over her body and set it on fire in an attempt to hide evidence of the crime, they testified.

Another soldier, Pvt. Bryan Howard, admitted to monitoring radio traffic and was given a five-year sentence.

The killings outraged Iraqis and ratcheted up tension in the war zone.


http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20070805/tpl-uk-usa-iraq-murder-47c7853_1.html


Hope the one still on trial gets the death penalty

mtw
08-06-2007, 09:48 AM
This whole war is a big crime and genocide and all these mental ill people should get life imprisonment, most of all poltician, who attacked this poor country. And what about these american psychopaths - it seems that it is only top of the iceberg. Some criminals, who were cought and one case, which saw daylight. But this crimes are commited there day by day. And who plants bombs? Who leads airstrikes and attacks on civilians houses, who destroyed these mosques? It is likely made by these american psychopaths too. It is very sad picture of USA. If their soldiers are representatives of their nation, it seems that this state is a gang of pervert psychopaths. The relations and opinions of a nation is always built on grounds, what is done by leaders and representatives of it.

Rafa = Fed Killa
08-06-2007, 05:17 PM
This whole war is a big crime and genocide and all these mental ill people should get life imprisonment, most of all poltician, who attacked this poor country. And what about these american psychopaths - it seems that it is only top of the iceberg. Some criminals, who were cought and one case, which saw daylight. But this crimes are commited there day by day. And who plants bombs? Who leads airstrikes and attacks on civilians houses, who destroyed these mosques? It is likely made by these american psychopaths too. It is very sad picture of USA. If their soldiers are representatives of their nation, it seems that this state is a gang of pervert psychopaths. The relations and opinions of a nation is always built on grounds, what is done by leaders and representatives of it.


:worship:

You are one of the few intelligent people left on MTF.
Most appear to be racist or insane.

Johnny Groove
08-06-2007, 05:43 PM
mtw, shut the fuck up about the USA. You know absolutely nothing about our country, and stop pretending like you do. We are not a country of perverted psycopaths

safin-rules-no.1
08-06-2007, 05:54 PM
mtw, shut the fuck up about the USA. You know absolutely nothing about our country, and stop pretending like you do. We are not a country of perverted psycopaths

no one said Americans were perverted :tape:


did you actually read the report?

Johnny Groove
08-06-2007, 06:02 PM
no one said Americans were perverted :tape:


did you actually read the report?

Yes, i read the report, and that is absolutely sickening, those soldiers should get the harshest penalties available. But the actions of a few of them, to mtw, must mean that it is representative of the USA as a whole :rolleyes:

This whole war is a big crime and genocide and all these mental ill people should get life imprisonment, most of all poltician, who attacked this poor country. And what about these american psychopaths - it seems that it is only top of the iceberg. Some criminals, who were cought and one case, which saw daylight. But this crimes are commited there day by day. And who plants bombs? Who leads airstrikes and attacks on civilians houses, who destroyed these mosques? It is likely made by these american psychopaths too. It is very sad picture of USA. If their soldiers are representatives of their nation, it seems that this state is a gang of pervert psychopaths. The relations and opinions of a nation is always built on grounds, what is done by leaders and representatives of it.

And yeah, safin rules, she did say pervert psychopaths

safin-rules-no.1
08-06-2007, 06:03 PM
Yes, i read the report, and that is absolutely sickening, those soldiers should get the harshest penalties available. But the actions of a few of them, to mtw, must mean that it is representative of the USA as a whole :rolleyes:



And yeah, safin rules, she did say pervert psychopaths

fair enough, i must have missed that part of her retarded rant. :tape:

El Legenda
08-06-2007, 06:12 PM
This whole war is a big crime and genocide and all these mental ill people should get life imprisonment, most of all poltician, who attacked this poor country. And what about these american psychopaths - it seems that it is only top of the iceberg. Some criminals, who were cought and one case, which saw daylight. But this crimes are commited there day by day. And who plants bombs? Who leads airstrikes and attacks on civilians houses, who destroyed these mosques? It is likely made by these american psychopaths too. It is very sad picture of USA. If their soldiers are representatives of their nation, it seems that this state is a gang of pervert psychopaths. The relations and opinions of a nation is always built on grounds, what is done by leaders and representatives of it.

no its not, if USA was killing civilians on purpose it would be. 3 or 4 soldiers killing and ****** is not genocide.
poor country? its not a poor country, the people are poor, because Saddam built billion $ houses from oil money.

owned :)

Rafa = Fed Killa
08-06-2007, 06:56 PM
no its not, if USA was killing civilians on purpose it would be. 3 or 4 soldiers killing and ****** is not genocide.
poor country? its not a poor country, the people are poor, because Saddam built billion $ houses from oil money.

owned :)

And now US is stealing their oil.

Saddam and US are equally evil and both screwed the Iraqi people.

El Legenda
08-06-2007, 07:17 PM
And now US is stealing their oil.

Saddam and US are equally evil and both screwed the Iraqi people.

show me that US is stealing oil.

partygirl
08-06-2007, 08:34 PM
i'll never understand how violence & sex can be so interchangeable in the male mind.

I know that **** is not sex but it is sexual in nature, how do you go from...grief/anger/retaliation to gang ****** a 14 year old???

disgusting.

safin-rules-no.1
08-06-2007, 08:45 PM
i'll never understand how violence & sex can be so interchangeable in the male mind.

I know that **** is not sex but it is sexual in nature, how do you go from...grief/anger/retaliation to gang ****** a 14 year old???

disgusting.

when you hve the feeling of power and total control as they did - they thought they could get away with it. It's a very sad story really - i'm just happy justice was done

Sjengster
08-06-2007, 08:56 PM
i'll never understand how violence & sex can be so interchangeable in the male mind.

I know that **** is not sex but it is sexual in nature, how do you go from...grief/anger/retaliation to gang ****** a 14 year old???

disgusting.

Some male minds, rather than the male mind, would be a more appropriate way of describing it. They're certainly not interchangeable in my mind.

JustJames
08-06-2007, 09:15 PM
It is sickening to think that there are people willing to take advantage of some of the most exposed and defenceless people in the world...and exploiting them in such a manner is beyond repent.
But also to think that these few represent an entire nation is extremely misguided...

FiBeR
08-06-2007, 09:28 PM
ok..so we started with ****..and people are bringing up oil

I could pop in the discussion.. :shrug:..

but i probably wont get to anywhere..

the big picture is missed..because people are defending their flag, dont read any newspapers (except from those totally subjective), and dont know how to read between lines..

anyway.. it is horrible.. war is horrible.. and doing something like this "to defend a country" is horrible..

there are people ,somewhere, who think that that soldier is a hero..and that is concerning :wavey:

scoobs
08-07-2007, 01:45 AM
These cases are not about sex, they are about power and the fact that these soldiers are in a position of power and authority over ordinary Iraqi citizens.

A small minority of scum choose to take advantage of this in utterly repellent ways, perhaps believing they will be largely protected from the consequences of their actions. In this case, I'm delighted to say, not so - though in other cases, possibly they have got away with it.

An entire country should not be held to be the same as its more unpleasant representatives, though I think the American military does need to get its house in order - part of the problem is that they have a manpower shortage and take just about anyone they can get. This is obviously not good in sensitive or powderkeg situations.

Scotso
08-07-2007, 01:48 AM
They should be given the death penalty.

And morons like mtw should be banned from having opinions.

scoobs
08-07-2007, 02:28 AM
I don't support the death penalty but those involved in such a callous disregard for human life should be banged up for the rest of their lives with no parole, they are not fit to be around decent people.

mtw
08-07-2007, 04:09 PM
mtw, shut the fuck up about the USA. You know absolutely nothing about our country, and stop pretending like you do. We are not a country of perverted psycopaths

I show only the real picture of your state, picture seen with eyes of objective watcher. You can believe that I was very proamerican when I was teenager, but after intensive education and observation I changed my opinion. I see that you are the worst, imperialistic state in the world. Besides the number of psychopaths is the biggest just in USA among all states of this world. It can have various basis ( alcoholism + drug addiction + amoral breeding - you must know that you live in country in which number of serial murderers is the largest in the world - )Besides if you are american, you should glue your national flag ( flag used by you is spanish. It seems that education level is not very advanced in your state too. Low level of intelligence of your nation can be concluded after listening to statement of your president and other politican too. )

zicofirol
08-07-2007, 04:21 PM
:worship:

You are one of the few intelligent people left on MTF.
Most appear to be racist or insane.

it takes one to know one...

zicofirol
08-07-2007, 04:23 PM
They should be given the death penalty.

And morons like mtw should be banned from having opinions.

mtw is a comedic goldmine, I would like to see a character like that in a sticom and nice sig... I hope ron paul does well in the Iowa straw poll this weak to gain more supporters...

mtw
08-08-2007, 05:13 PM
mtw is a comedic goldmine, I would like to see a character like that in a sticom and nice sig... I hope ron paul does well in the Iowa straw poll this weak to gain more supporters...

What is funny with it? american troops killed today 30 people again - 50 % civilians in a Sadr City - it is crime and genocide. This state is not metropoliy, it is a pile of ruins ( it was destroyed by americans), in which is a some kind of priest, who is not proamerican ( there was similiar priest in Poland, who was murdered, because he said the truth to nation ). Does morality, lack of honour, basic rules and moral code of american psychopaths fall down so low that they will go too far? Sorry, but such things as your troops and commands of this myrmidons: killing, torturing, ******, murdering of women, priests and civilians were made only by hitlerite - and not by usual soldiers, who werer normal poor people but special trained groups - so called SS. It seems that it is unrivalled pattern of american army.
What fuc..d, agressive people are you to the hell? What do you to the fu.. want from this people? Is it not clear that if this primeminister says that he wants to lead own army that means that he wants to turn american psychoes out. What will this war give to somebody? Nothing. This state would have to be rebuilt for the next 10 years. How such crime as this war can be continueted so long.
This war is terrible crime,
Besides your american troops train Sunni militiants. And people are killed there ( every week new mass Shiites graves are found). It is terrible genocide. What does it give to anybody? New murderers, new, innocent victims and then a new wish of revenge. It gives nothing to anybody. How can these american leders be such dull dung and moth..f....rs to continue such crime so long and for what?

HybridTheory
08-08-2007, 05:28 PM
This whole war makes me sick.
Bunch of hypocrites.

mtw
08-08-2007, 05:45 PM
These cases are not about sex, they are about power and the fact that these soldiers are in a position of power and authority over ordinary Iraqi citizens.

A small minority of scum choose to take advantage of this in utterly repellent ways, perhaps believing they will be largely protected from the consequences of their actions. In this case, I'm delighted to say, not so - though in other cases, possibly they have got away with it.



Saying scums, do you mean some leaders: B + B + this new British leader, because I think that they are the biggest among all scums.
I don't understand, what is wrong with your nations. I try to explain it, but it can not hit your nation at all. Occupying wars are always crimes. This war is crime and genocide. Iraq before a war was poor, ruled by this not good man, but it was not such tragedy. Now it is disaster and humanitarian tragedy of all Iraqi people. And this tragedy was caused by your 2 nations directly and some chieftains without honour as some Polish ones indirectly. Normal people should be against it. It is unimagineable how it could be done at all. But it happened. All this crime is not to taken away. But the only way is to stop making the same things. All these terrible crimes commited by occupants ( killing people in ,,raids, airstrikes, car bombs - it is such hard to plant a bomb to car - every soldier can do it and blast off in right moment ). This war is crimes and genocide and it must be ended at last. This occupation and violance against Iraqis gives nothing - it carries only death and destroying and will of revange. You are invaders and your leaders must understand it. So the only way is to leave this state, give peace to this people. So many victims, orphans, invalids, widows. How long will this crime be continuated Every people make faults, some makes crimes too, but the great deal for every criminal is to see how terrible monster is this person and change own person in normal one, which understands own faults, own crimes and wants to stop it, to change it and not to continue own criminal activity and lie. It is clear and this leaders should understand it to the hell. The philosophy of own life should not be based on lies, because it will be wrecked.

Scotso
08-08-2007, 06:40 PM
You can believe that I was very proamerican when I was teenager, but after intensive education and observation I changed my opinion. I see that you are the worst, imperialistic state in the world.

Don't you mean intensive propaganda?

And wtf do you mean our flag is Spanish? :lol:

Thank you for your concern about our country, we will take it under advisement and get back to you when Poland allows freedom of speech.

Nathaliia
08-08-2007, 06:42 PM
Of course we have the freedom of speech.



Just the people who talk the wrong things are made silent in ways.

mtw
08-10-2007, 10:14 AM
Don't you mean intensive propaganda?

And wtf do you mean our flag is Spanish? :lol:

Thank you for your concern about our country, we will take it under advisement and get back to you when Poland allows freedom of speech.
No, one of your citizens think that your national flag is spanish flag and he is not only one. It is the second member of this forum, who does not know, how American flag looks like. One is Zicofirol and the other is Blaze 2004. Both people affirm that they are americans. Do they ashame of own country? We have freedom of speech in Poland. But you have no freedom of speech in your state. It is very sad that you are frightened by your leaders or you are such not clever that you do not observe it. You have no free media. All media are probably redeemed by progovernment crew, which din into poor heads of simple American citizens progovernment bs. Besides you have no normal parties in your state. You have no socialists, no prosocial party. You have only coservative liberals? and liberal liberals? It is really funny. If your leaders want to pervade democracy, firtstly they should pervade it in USA, because it seems that system of your state is no democracy. You have regime in your state. You are governed by years by hard - liner bullies. And it is very interesting that they formed own society in special way. Their brains are washed to this level that they think that they live in a democratic state. Can you explain how does your democracy look like? Do you hear an alternative opinion in your medias? Did you notice that information given by your press, official TV are unilateral?

ReturnWinner
08-10-2007, 01:11 PM
nice, and there are more motherfuckers and sons of a bitches like this one :mad:

mtw
08-13-2007, 04:17 PM
My press gave information that american forces prepare theirselves to offensive against insurgents and alleged terrorists. An advisor of Bush resigned. I am not suprised. It is very strange that he endured so long time with this sick bloke.
I don't understand, but these people do not understand it that they are invaders. How much people must be killed in Iraq by them? 1 - 2 mln or 10 mln. For me it is usual crime and genocide and nothing more. It is beyond belief. What do they want in this country practically? It is not their republic or state.
They are usual, primitive mother... f..rs without shame, morality, basic rules and decency.

Julio1974
08-13-2007, 04:47 PM
They are usual, primitive mother... f..rs without shame, morality, basic rules and decency.

Not all people in this world are like you, really.

mtw
08-15-2007, 09:13 AM
You Julio 1974
Not all, only some leaders and all people who voted for such people.
Could you explain, what good and beautiful is in such ,,actions,, , in which other people are killed, banished out of own state or they become invalids, orphans, victims of violance and a country is totally destroyed and what beautiful is in continuing of these ,,actions,,? Maybe only you ( Julio 1974 ), Bush and some american ruffians see benefit of it. And for me it is quite clear that people, who make such ,,actions,, must be at least hard psychopaths without morality and basic humane rules.
The last actions ,, Black Eagle,, led to humanitarian ( firstly 1 mln refugees, during this actions 4 mln refugees and tousends people were killed) disaster and outbreak of violance. And what consequences will have the new violance against these people - tousends of killed people and 10 mln refugees? It is their country. If they don't want american invasion that it is time for americans to come to their senses and leave this Iraq. I don't know, but somebody should think of it. People should think of consequennces of own activity most of all.
Anyway such invasions can be supported only by people, in which proamerican authorities killed 30 000- 40 000 people in the past. But believe me that it is not acceptable for normal people.It is unforgivable.
The worst disater are caused always by people. The wars belong to these disasters.