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Chavez says foreigners who publicly criticize him will be expelled...

zicofirol
07-25-2007, 07:15 AM
haha, what an idiot, what will be even more amazing is the idiots that still defend him, defend this retarded move, any doubt left that he is a dictator in the making, if not already there...

President Hugo Chavez has said that foreigners who publicly criticize him or his government while visiting Venezuela will be expelled from the country.

President Hugo Chavez has ordered officials to monitor statements made by foreigners in Venezuela closely.

Chavez on Sunday ordered officials to monitor closely statements made by international figures during their visits to Venezuela -- and deport any outspoken critics.

"How long are we going to allow a person -- from any country in the world -- to come to our own house to say there's a dictatorship here, that the president is a tyrant, and nobody does anything about it?" Chavez asked during his weekly television and radio program.

The Venezuelan leader's statements came after Manuel Espino, president of Mexico's conservative ruling party, criticized Chavez during a recent pro-democracy forum in Caracas...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/07/23/venezuela.chavez.ap/index.html?section=cnn_latest

Tzar
07-25-2007, 07:24 AM
i hate him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

El Legenda
07-25-2007, 07:39 AM
haha, what an idiot, what will be even more amazing is the idiots that still defend him, defend this retarded move, any doubt left that he is a dictator in the making, if not already there...



http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/07/23/venezuela.chavez.ap/index.html?section=cnn_latest

in the making? :lol: he is already.

RonE
07-25-2007, 09:36 AM
Genius move Hugo- prove to the world you are not a dictator by shutting up and expelling your detractors. For sure that will really convince everyone what a benevolent and democratic president you are :worship:

Julio1974
07-25-2007, 02:09 PM
Pathetic but not surprising. Freedom of speech is only taken more or less seriously in liberal democratic countries.

buddyholly
07-25-2007, 02:48 PM
So Chavez thinks it is disgusting to go to another country and say bad things about its President? I smell sulphur.

Seriously, he will be worse than Fidel.

Andre♥
07-25-2007, 03:00 PM
Seriously, he will be worse than Fidel.

Fidel is the coolest dictator ever. :cool:

Actually most of the people like him! :p

Chavez is scum, but his speeches about Bush are just classic! :worship:

mtw
07-25-2007, 05:46 PM
haha, what an idiot, what will be even more amazing is the idiots that still defend him, defend this retarded move, any doubt left that he is a dictator in the making, if not already there...



http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/07/23/venezuela.chavez.ap/index.html?section=cnn_latest

And Bush jailed a prominent american anti-war activist in the last time. Besides Chavez in comparison with Bush is prodemocratic, nice man. You should consider how terrible regime created Bush in this world and what he does exactly in the world and with the world: he is guilty of death of many innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan, he destroyed 2 states, thanks to him terrorists of al-qaeda growed in power, even Anglons ( not mentioning of punishment of Providence but they are atheists and they don't believe in such superstitions ) and Spaniards owed this attacks to him. Germans and South Koreans owed kidnapping of their citizens to Bush and his politics too.
And what about Chavez. I don't understand such people, who go to a country and they are not pleased with such things as politicians or social system. It is the internal problem of the state and if somebody believes that own president is wonderful and own state is the most wonderful in the world, then this person should sit in own state and admire it.

fenomeno2111
07-25-2007, 07:27 PM
And Bush jailed a prominent american anti-war activist in the last time. Besides Chavez in comparison with Bush is prodemocratic, nice man. You should consider how terrible regime created Bush in this world and what he does exactly in the world and with the world: he is guilty of death of many innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan, he destroyed 2 states, thanks to him terrorists of al-qaeda growed in power, even Anglons ( not mentioning of punishment of Providence but they are atheists and they don't believe in such superstitions ) and Spaniards owed this attacks to him. Germans and South Koreans owed kidnapping of their citizens to Bush and his politics too.
And what about Chavez. I don't understand such people, who go to a country and they are not pleased with such things as politicians or social system. It is the internal problem of the state and if somebody believes that own president is wonderful and own state is the most wonderful in the world, then this person should sit in own state and admire it.

Did anyone mentioned Bush here....:confused:
Vamos MTW!!! :rocker:

LoveFifteen
07-25-2007, 07:30 PM
And Bush jailed a prominent american anti-war activist in the last time.

Who? Can you provide the name or a link to a story about this jailed anti-war activist? Thanks in advance. :)

Also, it seems like you are saying that it's okay for Chavez to expel foreigners in Venezuela that criticize him. Am I wrong to think that is your opinion?

Zirconek
07-25-2007, 08:02 PM
Chavez, get rid of CIA agents :haha:

El Legenda
07-25-2007, 08:29 PM
And Bush jailed a prominent american anti-war activist in the last time..

In USA you can make a sign that says BUSH SUCKS and show it to him when he is giving a public speech, you get shot if you do that to Chavez.

buddyholly
07-26-2007, 03:10 AM
Fidel is the coolest dictator ever. :cool:

Actually most of the people like him! :p

Chavez is scum, but his speeches about Bush are just classic! :worship:

You probably think Che was a great guy too - not just a sadisdic murderer.

What is your evidence for most people in Cuba liking Fidel? My evidence is just that I lived there from 1993-2002, travelled the length and breadth of the country, and have no doubt that most Cubans hate his guts.
My guess is you are young and naive and have no feelings at all for the 11 million Cubans held prisoner by the Castro regime.

Albop
07-26-2007, 03:11 AM
Chavez :ras:

Scotso
07-26-2007, 03:58 AM
Nothing like a little totalitarianism to get the liberals all hot and bothered. :D

Stgobaiano
07-26-2007, 06:19 AM
Well Chavez and Bush are 2 stupids guys but BUSH is an assesine , a coward.

Fidel is also an assesine but he didn`t kill as much as George Bush.

Chris 84
07-26-2007, 12:38 PM
Chavez didn't say anything like the headline implies.

America hates Chavez, so of course CNN is going to talk this up for all it is worth. He is quite correct in what he says. Why should foreign diplomats be allowed into Venezuela to try and stir up anti-Chavez feeling?

I also found this most amusing "U.S. law has forbidden assassination attempts since the 1970s, and Washington denies the U.S. government has attempted to kill Castro since then"
:haha: Yeah right, because the law forbids it, of course the CIA won't assassinate anyone :rolleyes:

Oh, and if they can't assassinate anyone, why is Bin Laden wanted dead or alive? And why do the Americans have "targeted bomb attacks" on suspected Al Quaeda members? Cos that sounds like assassination to me....

Julio1974
07-26-2007, 03:27 PM
Chavez didn't say anything like the headline implies.

America hates Chavez, so of course CNN is going to talk this up for all it is worth. He is quite correct in what he says. Why should foreign diplomats be allowed into Venezuela to try and stir up anti-Chavez feeling?

I also found this most amusing "U.S. law has forbidden assassination attempts since the 1970s, and Washington denies the U.S. government has attempted to kill Castro since then"
:haha: Yeah right, because the law forbids it, of course the CIA won't assassinate anyone :rolleyes:

Oh, and if they can't assassinate anyone, why is Bin Laden wanted dead or alive? And why do the Americans have "targeted bomb attacks" on suspected Al Quaeda members? Cos that sounds like assassination to me....

Will the European "politically correct" left ever get tired of backing every single dictatorship around the world with "extreme left-wing" policies? Having backed Stalin, Mao, Castro, Honecker, Pol Pot, don't you think it's time to start to be more rational and learn from past mistakes? Don't you realize that you are the same as those bastards who backed South Africa during the appartheid era or those who supported the national security governments in Latinamerica in the 70s?

Please, don't respond anything related to Bush. I don't like Bush, and I consider him responsible for the invasion of an independent country without any basis. However, I wonder whether the extreme left remembers that the ex URSS invaded during 50 yrs all eastern Europe. And when people in Prague and Budapest attempted to rise against the URSS in 1956 and in 1968, they were crushed by the soviet army while the west european left kept silent.

cobalt60
07-26-2007, 03:49 PM
And Bush jailed a prominent american anti-war activist in the last time. Besides Chavez in comparison with Bush is prodemocratic, nice man. You should consider how terrible regime created Bush in this world and what he does exactly in the world and with the world: he is guilty of death of many innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan, he destroyed 2 states, thanks to him terrorists of al-qaeda growed in power, even Anglons ( not mentioning of punishment of Providence but they are atheists and they don't believe in such superstitions ) and Spaniards owed this attacks to him. Germans and South Koreans owed kidnapping of their citizens to Bush and his politics too.
And what about Chavez. I don't understand such people, who go to a country and they are not pleased with such things as politicians or social system. It is the internal problem of the state and if somebody believes that own president is wonderful and own state is the most wonderful in the world, then this person should sit in own state and admire it.

I have decided that you are so over the top in lala land that you have to be a joke poster.

zicofirol
07-26-2007, 05:09 PM
Chavez didn't say anything like the headline implies.

America hates Chavez, so of course CNN is going to talk this up for all it is worth. He is quite correct in what he says. Why should foreign diplomats be allowed into Venezuela to try and stir up anti-Chavez feeling?

I also found this most amusing "U.S. law has forbidden assassination attempts since the 1970s, and Washington denies the U.S. government has attempted to kill Castro since then"
:haha: Yeah right, because the law forbids it, of course the CIA won't assassinate anyone :rolleyes:

Oh, and if they can't assassinate anyone, why is Bin Laden wanted dead or alive? And why do the Americans have "targeted bomb attacks" on suspected Al Quaeda members? Cos that sounds like assassination to me....
I think the law forbid killing of foreign leaders not terrorist...Bin Laden was targeted way before 9-11 the CIA had 3 chances to kill him and the US president all 3 times did not give them "permission"...

As for saying Chavez didnt say, that it was reported all over here is the Chavez enamored BBC report: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6911246.stm

"No foreigner can come here to attack us. Anyone who does must be removed from this country," he said during his weekly TV and radio programme.

Mr Chavez also ordered officials to monitor statements made by international figures in Venezuela.
Seems pretty clear to me, and its funny you defend such a stupid idea, I imagine you would also support this if Bush would expell foreign government figures who insulted him in the US right?

Julio1974, like you say the left has supported and still supports the worst mass murders in history just because they are socialist/communist or because they are anti-american it is not surprising they will support Chavez regardless of what he does...

stealthisnick
07-26-2007, 05:52 PM
all of what you are saying it's obviously right
but as much obious is that noone cares about what's circumstances brought this situation in some south american countries

LoveFifteen
07-26-2007, 07:47 PM
I walk by the White House at least twice a month because it's next to the Federal Circuit Court of Appeals. There are always people there with signs calling Bush a murderer, a coward, a criminal, etc., and sometimes there are people chanting protests. These people are not jailed or accosted by the police. They are free to do this, and some of them could certainly be non-American citizens, too.

Bush sucks, but please don't call him a dictator who jails people who dissent. It's just silly.

People aren't allowed to protest against Castro like that. :shrug:

Chris 84
07-26-2007, 09:17 PM
Will the European "politically correct" left ever get tired of backing every single dictatorship around the world with "extreme left-wing" policies? Having backed Stalin, Mao, Castro, Honecker, Pol Pot, don't you think it's time to start to be more rational and learn from past mistakes? Don't you realize that you are the same as those bastards who backed South Africa during the appartheid era or those who supported the national security governments in Latinamerica in the 70s?

Please, don't respond anything related to Bush. I don't like Bush, and I consider him responsible for the invasion of an independent country without any basis. However, I wonder whether the extreme left remembers that the ex URSS invaded during 50 yrs all eastern Europe. And when people in Prague and Budapest attempted to rise against the URSS in 1956 and in 1968, they were crushed by the soviet army while the west european left kept silent.

Politically correct left? Hahaha, I have no time for the wishy-washy moderately left of centre liberals. I'm a socialist and nothing else.

As for the left staying silent in the west about Stalin and the actions of the USSR, that isn't entirely true. The Communist parties certainly supported the USSR fully and they made up the bulk of the left in the west....but not everyone on the left stayed silent.

Julio1974, like you say the left has supported and still supports the worst mass murders in history just because they are socialist/communist or because they are anti-american it is not surprising they will support Chavez regardless of what he does...

The left spoke out against Saddam Hussein while the Americans and British were arming him.

He is just one example, but there are several others.

Scotso
07-27-2007, 02:24 AM
I find it endlessly entertaining that people (even in the US) will sing the praises of people like Chavez while criticizing the US. I'd really like to see these people live in Venezuela and see how much they like it.

buddyholly
07-27-2007, 01:46 PM
Oh, and if they can't assassinate anyone, why is Bin Laden wanted dead or alive? And why do the Americans have "targeted bomb attacks" on suspected Al Quaeda members? Cos that sounds like assassination to me....

Last time I checked Bin Laden was not in any government. I suggest you go look in a mirror, then hit the retard button.

''84'' Is that your year of birth or your IQ?

buddyholly
07-27-2007, 01:53 PM
He is quite correct in what he says. Why should foreign diplomats be allowed into Venezuela to try and stir up anti-Chavez feeling?



I guess you weren't a member when Chavez was leading Danny Glover around New York on a leash, stirring up anti-Bush feelings. Pity, because no doubt you would have been insistent that Chavez deserved to be put in handcuffs and kicked down to Havana for further instructions from his daddy.

Chris 84
07-27-2007, 02:57 PM
Last time I checked Bin Laden was not in any government. I suggest you go look in a mirror, then hit the retard button.

''84'' Is that your year of birth or your IQ?

Sanctioning a murder of a terrorist suspect is no different to sanctioning a murder of a head of state who is causing problems. Of course it would be good for America if Chavez were dead, and he would be stupid if he didn't take precautions against assassination.

There is a retard button in your mirror? What a strange mirror you must have :D (and it should be "go and look in a mirror" :D )

And since we are on the topic of user names and IQs, your IQ is pretty similar to Buddy Holly's, and since he is long dead, it explains why your posts are always so :retard:ed :D

buddyholly
07-27-2007, 11:46 PM
Of course it would be good for America if Chavez were dead.

There is a retard button in your mirror? What a strange mirror you must have :D (and it should be "go and look in a mirror" :D )



Good for Latin America? Well, we agree on one thing then.

Oh I see: as in ''go and f--k yourself''.

buddyholly
07-27-2007, 11:49 PM
Sanctioning a murder of a terrorist suspect is no different to sanctioning a murder of a head of state


Suspect? My guess is that Lockerbie is not your home town.

zicofirol
07-28-2007, 06:08 PM
chris would you support the same law if Bush passed it?

Richard_from_Cal
07-28-2007, 07:42 PM
Chavez didn't say anything like the headline implies.

America hates Chavez, so of course CNN is going to talk this up for all it is worth. He is quite correct in what he says. Why should foreign diplomats be allowed into Venezuela to try and stir up anti-Chavez feeling?

I also found this most amusing "U.S. law has forbidden assassination attempts since the 1970s, and Washington denies the U.S. government has attempted to kill Castro since then"
:haha: Yeah right, because the law forbids it, of course the CIA won't assassinate anyone :rolleyes:

Oh, and if they can't assassinate anyone, why is Bin Laden wanted dead or alive? And why do the Americans have "targeted bomb attacks" on suspected Al Quaeda members? Cos that sounds like assassination to me......Actually, supposedly the N.S.A. (no such agency--which is allegedly immune from any law which does not SPECIFICALLY mention the N.S.A. in the text of said hypothetical law, is immune (again, allegedly) from any law. So, they (the No Such Agency people,) could exact "hits" and blame them on the C.I.A. On topic: Hugo does seem to be sliding down a bad slope, in his attempt to run against/campaign against the American need for oil.

@ MTW: Sure, we subsidized an anti-Communist war against the Soviets, in Afghanistan...for ten years. And there were Muslims out there...

:rolleyes:

Stensland
09-02-2009, 11:42 AM
there's an interesting interview in a german paper today. oliver stone is about to release his documentary "south of the border" in venice, dealing with chavez' rule in venezuela. maybe someone who's from venezuela can rebutt/verify some of stone's more interesting points (the ones i can't verify on my own):

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/,ra4l1/kultur/762/486181/text/

- in contrast to western media there IS a vibrant private sector. apart from the a couple of key industries (oil etc.) everything remains in private hands. asked about the tv station that got shut down stone says it was the only station and he basically had every right to do it as the station explicitly supported a violent coup. ("would your government really let a station continue to operate that backs up a criminal upheaval?"). apart from that, private venezuelan stations keep on bashing him 24/7 and he lets them be.

- the vast majority of the population loves him.

- chavez does not support the FARC. there is no evidence whatsoever that he ever did, not even interpol has found anything. all there is to it were alleged cia sources claiming he's supplying them with weapons - which reminds stone of the pre-iraq-war scenario. chavez doesn't care about the FARC at all, the only reason they remain in the border region (ven-col) is the dense rain forest allowing them to hide well. plus venezuela never had any major border patrol, never cared about it - in contrast to colombia. those guys militarized the whole border region heavily via the greenback from washington to bogota.

- even under the castro regime there haven' nearly been as many human rights violations as under the right-wing regimes in tiny honduras or guatemala - both of them backed by washington.

- washington could end the current right-wing coup in honduras within days if obama were to come up with economic sanctions. the fact that he doesn't makes stone re-think obama's stance on many foreign policy issues.

- americans are very little-informed people. due to deliberate disinformation they know nothing about nothing - yet they constantly pay the price for all kinds of shenanigans via taxpayer money.

mtw
09-05-2009, 11:47 AM
Nothing like a little totalitarianism to get the liberals all hot and bothered. :D

what a system is in usa? it is military totalitarianism.
Why to attach to a few people just like this pres. Chavez or this Iranian president-people who are realyy innocent, they did nothing to to anybody. It should be that war criminals just like totalitarian governments of usa-degenerate scum, yesterday germany government - real war criminals murdered 90 innocent people in Afghanistan - innocent people were burned alive. And just this scum who rule in usa and in Germany presently should resposne for their crime against humanity - just this cdu, hitlerite criminals from this bundeswehr. And war crimes of these degenerate war criminals are not deliberated - yes it was following- these invaded by ussa and Germany Afghanistan ( republican, democrats, cdu-presently Merkel )in which people have really nothing and thanks to these war criminals from usa and germany. Poor, innocent, helpless people - just these Afghans are. It can be that they need fuel because they have no money to buy and civilians detained this cystern to supply this fuel to own villagers-they must live, they have rights to live and a neohitleritelike german generali from bundeswehr-friend of cdu and merkel ordered to make airstrike on these innocent Afghans - this fascist, degenerate pig caused that 90 people were burned alive or teared in peaces and the same things freinds ussmen and britts did to these people. Why? Will war criminals from usa, germany and britain be tried in International Court of Justice, will destroyed by them country just this Afghanistan be rebuild for their money? It must be said that merkel and their german friends spend above 500 mln euro year in year not mention another countries for needs of her neohitlerites from bundeswehr there - for grub, medical health care, amusements, trainings while Afghan people suffer from hunger, live in ruins, die of lack of access to doctors while very well equiped medical labors for money of all possible tax payers for needs of neohitlerites who take participation in this invasion-crime against humanity - it is a certain difference between this merkel, her cdu and hitler-hitler who was the same degenerate as she and her generalies and her party had a purpose - to conquer the world and to make slaves from all possible nations and be some kind of god for all rest morons who would survive, but what a purpose has this woman- what did Afghans do to Germans for instance - really nothing and never and if thanks to slashing and intimidation of these poor Afghans just like they want to do it thgey will ,,win,, this their war-then what's next, will they sit with this orphans, people who live to age 40 or shorter, in this mountains and what do they gain title - the tamers of Afghan malnutried civilians and teen insurgents or kings of opium? Thet must stop to murder and massacre these people- they are not like playthings to slash them but they are living human beings with felleing who suffer from these invasions cruelly. Besides such policy like now was in the past too and it was reversed just against these criminals who commit such crimes - it was the same thing with I and II world and the whole world was full of dead corps. Nobody wants repeats, even war criminal; bush, merkel, obama and the rest of it. Stop to murder people and rebuild their country for money of your countries.

Stensland
09-05-2009, 11:57 AM
regarding my post above:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_of_the_Border_%282009_film%29

orangehat
09-05-2009, 03:57 PM
Chavez is about the most screwed up person we have seen since Stalin.

buddyholly
09-05-2009, 05:57 PM
- chavez does not support the FARC. there is no evidence whatsoever that he ever did, not even interpol has found anything. all there is to it were alleged cia sources claiming he's supplying them with weapons - which reminds stone of the pre-iraq-war scenario. chavez doesn't care about the FARC at all, the only reason they remain in the border region (ven-col) is the dense rain forest allowing them to hide well. plus venezuela never had any major border patrol, never cared about it - in contrast to colombia. those guys militarized the whole border region heavily via the greenback from washington to bogota.

- even under the castro regime there haven' nearly been as many human rights violations as under the right-wing regimes in tiny honduras or guatemala - both of them backed by washington.



Stone got to be the only cameraman allowed to go with Chavez on a planned hostage release at the Venezuela/Colombia border. His documentary is not likely to be neutral.

Castro has violated the human rights of every single Cuban for 50 years by denying them the right to vote against his regime. Stone is a dupe, like Danny Glover and Sean Penn.

GustavoM_Fan
09-06-2009, 03:35 AM
what an asslicker this Oliver Stone... :spit:


Chavez is a bad joke. pathetic person

Kirchner another paranoid motherfucker :retard: who wants to "control all" like these idiot :cuckoo: