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Nadal vs Berdych Poll

Byrd
07-05-2007, 01:32 PM
Big match, Grudge match, QF match, whatever the fuck you want to call it, should be a good match.

Berdman in 4

TMJordan
07-05-2007, 01:34 PM
Get the fuck out of here Rafa, its over.

Berdych in 4.

shotgun
07-05-2007, 01:35 PM
Berdych in 3 or 4. Absolutely no excuses if he loses this one.

bokehlicious
07-05-2007, 01:36 PM
Overhyped match.

Nadal in 4 or 5 at worst... :zzz:

Marek.
07-05-2007, 01:36 PM
Depends on how Berdych plays, really. If he plays his normal, agressive game, he'll take time away from Nadal and should win this match in three or four sets. If he plays sub par and gives Nadal the chance to dictate play, he'll probably lose in three.

Fergie
07-05-2007, 01:37 PM
Tomas in 4 :cool:

Johnny Groove
07-05-2007, 01:37 PM
Nadal for retribution. Take out the trash and send Tomas home

Pfloyd
07-05-2007, 01:38 PM
I Believe Berdych is THE roaster, and I think Nadal will lose in 3, no joke.

Still, I believe that Rafa is capable of anything.

Now, I'm gonna give Rafa my vote just because I'm a fan (and I wanna help him in the poll :p )

But at the end Berdych in 3:

6-4, 7-6, 6-4, something along the lines.

Aloevera
07-05-2007, 01:38 PM
Berdych probably win in three, just as Youzhny should have done today. Once again, Nadal will be out at quarterfinal.

The Freak
07-05-2007, 01:39 PM
make a poll. Berdych in 4

jasmin
07-05-2007, 01:41 PM
I hope it's Berdych in 3 but I just hope he wins. I like his tennis.

Ales_Alessandra
07-05-2007, 01:41 PM
It can go either way really! :shrug:
Just hoping for a good match, hopefully with no rain delays!! :angel:

Mansave_75
07-05-2007, 01:45 PM
Nadal in 4 7-6,7-5,4-6,6-2!!!!!

adee-gee
07-05-2007, 01:46 PM
Berdych in 4.

Nadal, despite his condition must be mentally shattered. Not only did he play 5 sets today, he was as pumped as I've ever seen him. To come out tomorrow and retain that level of focus and intensity would be a monumental effort.

He needs to be as aggressive as he was towards the end of his match today, otherwise he'll be out of here in no time.

I don't expect Rafa to win, but he often surprises me. I hope he does again tomorrow.

Johnny Groove
07-05-2007, 01:48 PM
Berdych in 4.

Nadal, despite his condition must be mentally shattered. Not only did he play 5 sets today, he was as pumped as I've ever seen him. To come out tomorrow and retain that level of focus and intensity would be a monumental effort.

He needs to be as aggressive as he was towards the end of his match today, otherwise he'll be out of here in no time.

I don't expect Rafa to win, but he often surprises me. I hope he does again tomorrow.

Come on man, how many times have you seen him do just that? :p

bokehlicious
07-05-2007, 01:48 PM
Nadal in 4 7-6,7-5,4-6,6-2!!!!!

Finally a sane unbiased prediction... :rocker2: :o

stebs
07-05-2007, 01:50 PM
I think Berdych will win in five.

Being a fan of neither player I hope for a great match from both although if berdych plays at a good level he will undoubtedly win.

Worst case scenario is the match goes five after four long sets and Nadal runs out of steam. He is a fighter but that doesn't mean he can't lose energy and it would be a great shame if that happens but it is a very real possiblity.

Sunset of Age
07-05-2007, 01:50 PM
The outcome of this match is highly dependent on the answer to the question whether Berdman will remember to screw his head onto his shoulders as soon as he enters the court tomorrow. ;)

I trust Rafa to come through, in a tight 5-setter. At least that's what I hope to see happening tomorrow.

Clara Bow
07-05-2007, 01:53 PM
I think Berdych will win in four- but I would not mind at all to be proven wrong and see a Nadal win. :angel: That would be a pleasant surprise for me but I am expecting for Tomas to take it. The match up is just very, very good for Tomas.

adee-gee
07-05-2007, 01:54 PM
Come on man, how many times have you seen him do just that? :p

Yeah but this would be more impressive than ever, given the circumstances :p

RonE
07-05-2007, 01:56 PM
I just hope both players are 100% fit and at their best. May the better man win no excuses.

Johnny Groove
07-05-2007, 01:56 PM
Yeah but this would be more impressive than ever, given the circumstances :p

back to back 5 set matches, about to play in the QF's of Wimbleon against your most hated player on tour? Seeking payback for the Madrid fiasco? please, thats nothing :p

Johnny Groove
07-05-2007, 01:57 PM
I just hope both players are 100% fit and at their best. May the better man win no excuses.

Come on Ron, tell us how you REALLY feel :p

bokehlicious
07-05-2007, 01:57 PM
Yeah but this would be more impressive than ever, given the circumstances :p

The Spartan Emperor will prove the world once again what a warrior he is :cool: :rocker2:

VAMOS !

stebs
07-05-2007, 01:58 PM
Yeah but this would be more impressive than ever, given the circumstances :p

If Nadal can take out a Berdych who is even semi-firing tomorrow then he will have completed a fantastic acheivement. If he then comes out on Saturday and beats Hewitt or Djoko (Bagdhatis has very little chance vs Nadal) then I will have to admit it would be one of the most remarkable accomplishments I have ever seen by a player.

As for the mental thing, yes, being pumped takes a lot out of you but at least he was able to get off the court before 3pm. He has a lot of recovery time and if the rain had broken play at 2 sets all or something like that he would be in real trouble.

That said, truth of it is Berdych has this match in his hands, it's his to lose and Nadal can only play his best and hope Berdych is a little below par.

Pfloyd
07-05-2007, 01:58 PM
I mean, if Rafa can play like he did in 3rd, he does have a more than decent shot.

But let's be real, Nadal played quite well in Madrid, and Berdych won.

anon57
07-05-2007, 01:59 PM
If Berdych manages to keep his head screwed on for another match and play close to his best for three out of five sets he should take this. Nadal however has just defeated another tough opponent for him so he might be feeling confident and he might surprise everyone.

Lori42
07-05-2007, 01:59 PM
Nadal in 4 sets. He is on his way to the final!!!!!!! VAMOS!!!!!!!

elessar
07-05-2007, 02:00 PM
Unfortunetly for Rafa facing him seems to be the only thing that ensures Thomas doesn't lose his head :p. He will have to face the pressure of his first grand slam QF but I'd be very surprised if Nadal won it.
Besides I always think that if Nadal can fight to go to five sets he becomes the automatic favourite to win the match which may not be the case given Thomas great record in five setters. All in all I'm hoping to see a good match, I always love it when two players that are so different play each other and the bad blood is just the cherry :drool:

stebs
07-05-2007, 02:01 PM
I mean, if Rafa can play like he did in 3rd, he does have a more than decent shot.

But let's be real, Nadal played quite well in Madrid, and Berdych won.

Nadal was pretty much at his best in Madrid and any Nadal fan who truly believes he lost because he was below par needs waking up. Good for you for being realistic.

However, the grass suits Nadal more. For sure, Berdych will only drop serve if he has a mental lapse and the parts of the match I watched against Bjorkman I really can't see how he can lose the match but nadal is a tough nut to crack and Berdych will have to play well.

If Nadal has a high first serve % then he can make this incredibly close regardless of Berdych but otherwise he will be introuble.

rocketassist
07-05-2007, 02:02 PM
Berdych has a great 5 set record, as has Nadal. Tough to call if it goes to a 5th. Tomas hasn't made a Slam semi yet so obviously there's that side of it to consider although he should win against a Nadal who has dug really deep for four days in a row.

Fapmeister
07-05-2007, 02:03 PM
Seems as if Nadal versus anyone else you can pretty much use Nadal versus that person off clay as a good ***** for what his chances are. Berdych is 3-0 versus Nadal in such situations, hence I see little to no chance for him to win tomorrow, barring an act of pure luck like today against youzhny.

Edit: That's a weird word to filter?

Byrd
07-05-2007, 02:03 PM
Berdych has confidence from his grass run (8 match streak?) and because his h2h over Nadal as he knows hes going to be in his head from the get go. His serve is significant in this match.

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
07-05-2007, 02:05 PM
9 five-setters won by Berdych (2 @ Wimbledon)

Scotso
07-05-2007, 02:06 PM
hopefully Tomas will win. SF awaits, my boy.

crocit
07-05-2007, 02:07 PM
is this on 2day, or 2moro?

adee-gee
07-05-2007, 02:08 PM
back to back 5 set matches, about to play in the QF's of Wimbleon against your most hated player on tour? Seeking payback for the Madrid fiasco? please, thats nothing :p
Yeah it's more the mental side of it though. It's draining as a spectator with all the rain delays. I can't even begin to think how hard it is for a player.

Did you read what Hewitt said after his win against Canas, and his wasn't half as bad as Nadal-Soderling. That's coming from one of the mentally toughest players on tour as well.

Physically it's very demanding as well, if Nadal is to win he'll need to play at least 4 sets you would imagine.

adee-gee
07-05-2007, 02:10 PM
Byrd, just a quick question. Remember you said you would take your hat off to Nadal if he came through this draw, which you admitted was extremely tough.....

After he beat Soderling, you said it was because Soderling choked. After he beat Youzhny, it was because Youzhny was injured. If he does beat Berdych, will you continue to find excuses?

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
07-05-2007, 02:11 PM
is this on 2day, or 2moro?

the big clash is tomorrow :)

Deivid23
07-05-2007, 02:15 PM
Iīll be happy either way, just hope itīs a good show. I really think everything can happen tomorrow, you never can write off Nadal

mangoes
07-05-2007, 02:19 PM
This match depends on which Berdych decides to show up.........Berdych should win this, but we don't call him, at times, brainless for no reason......

LinkMage
07-05-2007, 02:19 PM
I hope Nadal's luck ends tomorrow.

Deivid23
07-05-2007, 02:19 PM
After he beat Soderling, you said it was because Soderling choked. After he beat Youzhny, it was because Youzhny was injured. If he does beat Berdych, will you continue to find excuses?

Excuses will never end till Nadal finishes his career, many people love to downplay his merits and talent. Iīm sure even if he quits at 35 some people would say "he burnt-out as expected". If somehow Nadal goes past Berdych, well, blame it on Tomas having an off day, rain, wind or crazy scheduling:D

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-05-2007, 02:21 PM
Depends on how both players hold their nerves.

Also who play the big points better.

Let the best man win.

BlueSwan
07-05-2007, 02:23 PM
Nadal in 5.

If this was a three-setter, I'd put my money on the Birdman, as I believe that he's got a better game for grass than Nadal. But it's one thing to win two sets off Nadal and another thing winning three sets.

If Berdych is to win this he'll have to do it in 3 or 4 sets - and if it's in 4, he'll have to win the first two sets. If it goes to 5, which I think it will, Nadal will win.

shotgun
07-05-2007, 02:23 PM
Seeking payback for the Madrid fiasco?

Where were you during Monte Carlo? ;)

Johnny Groove
07-05-2007, 02:25 PM
Where were you during Monte Carlo? ;)

that doesnt count, Tomas had no chance :p This is the big one :p

adee-gee
07-05-2007, 02:25 PM
Where were you during Monte Carlo? ;)

In dreamland :lol:

Beforehand
07-05-2007, 02:26 PM
Has Berdych lost a fifth set yet?

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
07-05-2007, 02:39 PM
Has Berdych lost a fifth set yet?

nope :p

here is the list


35/2006 ATP US Open(USA) Hard
Tomas Berdych def. Dmitry Tursunov 6-7(2) 6-3 3-6 6-3 6-4 Third Round

26/2006 ATP Wimbledon (GBR) Grass
Tomas Berdych def. Tommy Haas 2-6 7-5 7-6(7) 4-6 8-6 Third Round

26/2006 ATP Wimbledon (GBR) Grass
Tomas Berdych def. Fabrice Santoro 6-4 6-7(6) 2-6 7-6(5) 6-4 Second Round

44/2005 ATP Paris TMS (FRA) Carpet
Tomas Berdych def. Ivan Ljubicic 6-3 6-4 3-6 4-6 6-4 Finals

38/2005 DC Davis Cup (CZE) Clay
Tomas Berdych def. Nicolas Kiefer 6-7(5) 6-3 2-6 6-4 7-5 Reverse Singles

38/2005 DC Davis Cup (CZE) Clay
Tomas Berdych def. Tommy Haas 4-6 4-6 6-1 7-6(9) 6-3 Singles

38/2004 DC Davis Cup (PAR) Clay
Tomas Berdych def. Ramon Delgado 3-6 4-6 6-3 6-2 6-4 Singles

35/2004 ATP US Open (USA) Hard
Tomas Berdych def. Mikhail Youzhny 2-6 6-1 6-3 4-6 6-1 Third Round

35/2004 ATP US Open (USA) Hard
Tomas Berdych def. Jonas Bjorkman 6-3 2-6 6-2 1-6 6-3 First Round

t0x
07-05-2007, 02:41 PM
If Berdych has his brain in he'll win... you can never count on him though.

adee-gee
07-05-2007, 02:43 PM
From the BBC website......

1505: Peace breaks out between Tomas Berdych and Rafael Nadal ahead of their quarter-final. The pair got a bit feisty when Berdych beat the Spaniard in Madrid last year but now the Czech says: "I said in Madrid, it was just the emotions after the match. He congratulated me after Halle and I congratulated him just now in the locker room after his tough match today."

:lol: :awww:

mangoes
07-05-2007, 02:48 PM
From the BBC website......

1505: Peace breaks out between Tomas Berdych and Rafael Nadal ahead of their quarter-final. The pair got a bit feisty when Berdych beat the Spaniard in Madrid last year but now the Czech says: "I said in Madrid, it was just the emotions after the match. He congratulated me after Halle and I congratulated him just now in the locker room after his tough match today."

:lol: :awww:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Awwww, so sweet, Ms Piggy and BigBird are once again friends:lol: :lol: :lol:

bokehlicious
07-05-2007, 02:51 PM
Excuses will never end till Nadal finishes his career, many people love to downplay his merits and talent. Iīm sure even if he quits at 35 some people would say "he burnt-out as expected". If somehow Nadal goes past Berdych, well, blame it on Tomas having an off day, rain, wind or crazy scheduling:D

:baby: :baby: :baby:

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
07-05-2007, 02:55 PM
From the BBC website......

1505: Peace breaks out between Tomas Berdych and Rafael Nadal ahead of their quarter-final. The pair got a bit feisty when Berdych beat the Spaniard in Madrid last year but now the Czech says: "I said in Madrid, it was just the emotions after the match. He congratulated me after Halle and I congratulated him just now in the locker room after his tough match today."

:lol: :awww:


how sweet of both.... love is in the air ;)

selyoink
07-05-2007, 02:58 PM
As long as his mind doesn't get in his way Berdych will easily swat Nadal away in three sets possibly four.

Exodus
07-05-2007, 03:00 PM
nadal was lucky that youzny was injured. Berdych will roast the piggy big time

yana
07-05-2007, 03:07 PM
Once again, Nadal will be out at quarterfinal.

It's a curse indeed :angel:

jasmin
07-05-2007, 03:18 PM
Why is Nadal described as a pig. I'm not a fan but I don't get that one.

FedFan_2007
07-05-2007, 03:25 PM
Diff here is Birdshit will close the deal after winning the 1st 2 set, no broken backs, no excuses, just roast the fucking pig.

Pfloyd
07-05-2007, 03:32 PM
Diff here is Birdshit will close the deal after winning the 1st 2 set, no broken backs, no excuses, just roast the fucking pig.

Oh Shut up, you sore loser.

Still stings, the French Open Final :baby:

bokehlicious
07-05-2007, 03:39 PM
Why is Nadal described as a pig. I'm not a fan but I don't get that one.

Because of his grunting and the fact that he's not exactly handsome... :shrug:

kobulingam
07-05-2007, 03:40 PM
I give Nadal a 5% chance of beating BigBird. BigBird just matches up so well with Nadal. Birdman loves the high bouncing Nadal balls that go right into his hitting zones, and hits the shit out of be ball flat and fast.

If Nadal does beat BigBird, then he is my pick to win Wimbledon :worship:

jasmin
07-05-2007, 04:03 PM
Because of his grunting and the fact that he's not exactly handsome... :shrug:

Oh okay. I maybe I need to listen more closely because I don't know if I hear a pig sound.:lol:

Nadal seems a little more attractive off the court.

Amazing
07-05-2007, 04:03 PM
I've heard that this year the ball bounces pretty low. So this may be to Bird's disadvantage since he's a tall guy. So you never know. But he's the favorite for this match, no doubt about it.

Sorry Rafa, probably not this year.

GlennMirnyi
07-05-2007, 04:05 PM
Awww, the diva is "mentally shattered"!!! Expected sissy-girl behaviour from a bunch of fanboys.

Time for Berdman to show who's the boss over here.

Kitty de Sade
07-05-2007, 04:09 PM
This match depends on which Berdych decides to show up.........Berdych should win this, but we don't call him, at times, brainless for no reason......

You beat me to it. It's on Berdych's shoulders. If he leaves his brain in his hotel room, and is not ready to go to work, he'll be in trouble.

All things being status quo, he wins in four. Although I would love to see different result. ;)

The_Nadal_effect
07-05-2007, 04:10 PM
Why is Nadal described as a pig. I'm not a fan but I don't get that one.

:lol: Because Piggies love rolling in mud (clay).

And that's given RonE reason to create a piggy-roasting thread.
Now I'm guilty of enjoying that cheap thrill!:banghead:

Nadal in 5!

Johnny Groove
07-05-2007, 04:12 PM
You beat me to it. It's on Berdych's shoulders. If he leaves his brain in his hotel room, and is not ready to go to work, he'll be in trouble.

All things being status quo, he wins in four. Although I would love to see different result. ;)

Me too

Sofyaxo
07-05-2007, 04:12 PM
I think today gave Nadal lots of confidence.

Berdych needs to come out aggressive and in control. Of course that's like 50/50 thing. Who knows what Berdych will end up doing out there.

Preston
07-05-2007, 04:13 PM
Well though I will be rooting for Nadal, I pretty much of doubt that he will be able to pull off the upset. Yes, Nadal beating Berdych on grass is an upset. Berdych has won ALL THREE of their meetings outside of Clay, and they were all at big tourneys (ATP Masters) such as 05 Cincinnati, 06 Canada, & 06 Madrid. So I won't give Nadal an edge just because he's been a Wimbledon finalist. Plus no player outside of the 'King of Grass' (Federer) has beaten Berdych on grass in the past two seasons. Lastly I believe Berdych feeds off the opportunity to take out Nadal in tourneys. I have no proof of this, but I just feel that way. Nadal is in for a very tough fight.

gusman890
07-05-2007, 04:13 PM
birdshit wins in 3 :)

yana
07-05-2007, 04:28 PM
Because of the fact that he's not exactly handsome... :shrug:

Says who? Women seem to like him :confused:

Il Primo Uomo
07-05-2007, 04:31 PM
Oh come on, let the humiliation begin!:rock: Berdych is going to bitchslap Nadal in a ghetto way!
It will be fun to see :drool:

rofe
07-05-2007, 04:33 PM
This match is Birdman's to lose. If he does, no excuses.

Deivid23
07-05-2007, 04:35 PM
Can the thread starter add a poll? It should be interesting

bokehlicious
07-05-2007, 04:35 PM
Women seem to like him :confused:

Speak for yourself you fangirl ;) I know a lot of women not attracted at all :shrug: not that it matters anyway...

the graduate
07-05-2007, 04:42 PM
Rafa is going to stun the giraffe in five sets.I like Rafa to stun them 1-2-3 bang robin mischa tomas Vamos!

yana
07-05-2007, 04:50 PM
Speak for yourself you fangirl ;) I know a lot of women not attracted at all :shrug: not that it matters anyway...


I know a lot of women not attracted at all by the Swiss guys, dear fanboy :angel:...not that it matters either

RedFury
07-05-2007, 04:52 PM
Berdych is a tough cookie, no doubt, but Nadal's is a Rock

Rock crushes cookie in four.

mashamaniac
07-05-2007, 04:52 PM
i say rafa in straight sets!

scarecrows
07-05-2007, 04:54 PM
Spartan warrior to beat the bad man in 4 sets and shushing him once for all

jasmin
07-05-2007, 04:54 PM
I think Nadal will be considered the favorite because of his fight. I read around.

Mistaflava
07-05-2007, 04:55 PM
Nadal has lost to Berdych in the past but its not gonna happen here...

mashamaniac
07-05-2007, 04:55 PM
Berdych is a tough cookie, no doubt, but Nadal's is a Rock

Rock crushes cookie in four.

berdych is tough?? do you guys still think berdych is a real deal?? :devil: all the hypes over berdych is cuz he's beaten rafa once or twice! not a very good player at all!!

Andre'sNo1Fan
07-05-2007, 04:56 PM
Because of his grunting and the fact that he's not exactly handsome... :shrug:
Nadal is one of the hottest men in tennis.......maybe he's not your taste (yeh we know who is), but I can assure you that many women find him attractive.

bokehlicious
07-05-2007, 04:58 PM
Nadal is one of the hottest men in tennis.......maybe he's not your taste (yeh we know who is), but I can assure you that many women find him attractive.

:zzz: :zzz: if you think so :rolleyes: whatever...

SixPack
07-05-2007, 04:58 PM
Nadal win this in 5 sets!

0-6, 7-6(8), 3-6, 7-6(4), 6-4

mashamaniac
07-05-2007, 04:58 PM
Spartan warrior to beat the bad man in 4 sets and shushing him once for all

i don't think berdych is even able to get one set off rafa,anyways!;)

Andre'sNo1Fan
07-05-2007, 05:00 PM
:zzz: :zzz: if you think so :rolleyes: whatever...
Yeh I do think so, and I guess deep down you know the truth too...

Il Primo Uomo
07-05-2007, 05:00 PM
i don't think berdych is even able to get one set off rafa,anyways!;)

TROLL ALERT!

scarecrows
07-05-2007, 05:01 PM
i don't think berdych is even able to get one set off rafa,anyways!;)

Rafa will be a bit tired in the beginning because of the 5 sets he played today but he will recover and there wont be anymore problems for him

mashamaniac
07-05-2007, 05:01 PM
:zzz: :zzz: if you think so :rolleyes: whatever...

i guess most of people over the board think like him... :zzz: :zzz: ...:devil:

yana
07-05-2007, 05:03 PM
berdych is tough?? do you guys still think berdych is a real deal?? :devil: all the hypes over berdych is cuz he's beaten rafa once or twice! not a very good player at all!!

Slow down, we're talking about grass here!

mashamaniac
07-05-2007, 05:04 PM
Rafa will be a bit tired in the beginning because of the 5 sets he played today but he will recover and there wont be anymore problems for him

true,he's a bit tired but don't forget that he's a spartan!!! maybe he's the most tireless player out on the tour!

bokehlicious
07-05-2007, 05:05 PM
Yeh I do think so, and I guess deep down you know the truth too...

:rolleyes: he actually reminds me of a pig :shrug:, so since I am no zoophilist I can assure you you're plain wrong darlin' :lol:

mashamaniac
07-05-2007, 05:08 PM
Slow down, we're talking about grass here!

huh? have you guys forgotten rafa's results on grass too?? he's reached wimbly final and is ready for his 1st non-FO title,so who's berdych to stop him??
his best results been once winning halle 2 weeks ago!
yes,rafa hasn't won a title on grass,but reaching W final is at least twice worthy than that halle title...:wavey:

Beforehand
07-05-2007, 05:08 PM
Rafa will be a bit tired in the beginning because of the 5 sets he played today but he will recover and there wont be anymore problems for him
:devil:

The_Nadal_effect
07-05-2007, 05:10 PM
Nadal win this in 5 sets!

0-6, 7-6(8), 3-6, 7-6(4), 6-4

Don't predict that deep, Nostradamus!

martine2
07-05-2007, 05:10 PM
Berdych is a bad match up for Rafa plus he's good on grass...
I hope Rafa, but I'd say Berdych...

scarecrows
07-05-2007, 05:14 PM
true,he's a bit tired but don't forget that he's a spartan!!! maybe he's the most tireless player out on the tour!

yes, he never gets tired
he'll keep chasing those balls left and right for at least one decade more :worship:

Andre'sNo1Fan
07-05-2007, 05:14 PM
:rolleyes: he actually reminds me of a pig :shrug:, so since I am no zoophilist I can assure you you're plain wrong darlin' :lol:
Jealousy is a horrible thing, my dear.

yana
07-05-2007, 05:17 PM
yes, he never gets tired
he'll keep chasing those balls left and right for at least one decade more :worship:

Proud of owning a 17 years old? :angel:

RagingLamb
07-05-2007, 05:18 PM
it's going to be tough for Nadal.
Let's see if Berdych has any mental lapses, that would help. Otherwise, I'd be impressed if Rafa wins.

I predicted Youzhny to beat him today, and I was wrong, so maybe I'll just shut up and watch.

Forehander
07-05-2007, 05:20 PM
Berdych will take this one

mashamaniac
07-05-2007, 05:22 PM
yes, he never gets tired
he'll keep chasing those balls left and right for at least one decade more

that's so true! he's a lefty and that must be the hardest thing to do ,to chase the ball through everywhere it goes!

scarecrows
07-05-2007, 05:22 PM
Proud of owning a 17 years old? :angel:

i dont give a rat's ass about age and gender

mashamaniac
07-05-2007, 05:26 PM
i dont give a rat's ass about age and gender

could it be the biggest fuck that that fangirl has ever sucked?:confused: (sorry guys!)

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-05-2007, 05:27 PM
true,he's a bit tired but don't forget that he's a spartan!!! maybe he's the most tireless player out on the tour!

Nadal has the heart of a lion

But he is human and does fatigue.

Nevertheless, Sparta will reign supreme.

scarecrows
07-05-2007, 05:28 PM
could it be the biggest fuck that that fangirl has ever sucked?:confused: (sorry guys!)

:confused:

what are you sniffing?

mashamaniac
07-05-2007, 05:31 PM
what are you sniffing?

sorry i was a lil bit off-topic then...

Xristos
07-05-2007, 05:32 PM
Rafa in 4.

mashamaniac
07-05-2007, 05:33 PM
Nadal has the heart of a lion

But he is human and does fatigue.

Nevertheless, Sparta will reign supreme.

yup he's a human being and does fatigue,but whenever it's due he doesn't fatigue...;)

ugotlobbed
07-05-2007, 05:48 PM
i predicted berdman to get to the final, lets see if it holds up, berdych to own nadal 3-0

Metis
07-05-2007, 06:30 PM
I'll have to agree with many others that the most likely outcome is a Berdych win in 3 or 4 sets.


From the BBC website......

1505: Peace breaks out between Tomas Berdych and Rafael Nadal ahead of their quarter-final. The pair got a bit feisty when Berdych beat the Spaniard in Madrid last year but now the Czech says: "I said in Madrid, it was just the emotions after the match. He congratulated me after Halle and I congratulated him just now in the locker room after his tough match today."

:lol: :awww:


:inlove:

Watch out Lucie! :haha:

Jim Courier
07-05-2007, 06:36 PM
In theory Berdych in 3, but something tells me it's going to be Nadal in 4. If it goes to 5 Nadal wins as well.
Berdych has to throw the kitchen sink at Nadal and rush past him in 3 to win as i see it, two 5 setters in a row or not.

connectolove
07-05-2007, 06:45 PM
I Believe Berdych is THE roaster, and I think Nadal will lose in 3, no joke.

Still, I believe that Rafa is capable of anything.

Now, I'm gonna give Rafa my vote just because I'm a fan (and I wanna help him in the poll :p )

But at the end Berdych in 3:

6-4, 7-6, 6-4, something along the lines.

Ditto, but I am not sure about the numbers...

GO RAFA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Exodus
07-05-2007, 06:47 PM
berdych is going to take care of nadal in 3-4 sets no doubt about it

jcempire
07-05-2007, 06:49 PM
Nadal 6-2 6-3 6-4

Preston
07-05-2007, 06:51 PM
I seems that a lot of members here feel that Rafa will win, and some even consider him the favorite. Well I can't knock anyone for the believing Nadal will come out victorious, but how in the world do you consider him the favorite over Berdych? That young man has beaten him all 3 times they've met on fast (non-Clay) surfaces, and all those wins came in big tourneys (ATP Masters Series) being Cincy, Canada, & Madrid, therefore I won't buy the Wimbledon QF big stage, so Berdych loses mind of thought. Plus as I noted earlier, NO PLAYER not named Federer has beaten Berdych on grass in 2 years. So again, how can anyone think Nadal is favored?

Marek.
07-05-2007, 06:55 PM
I seems that a lot of members here feel that Rafa will win, and some even consider him the favorite. Well I can't know anyone for the believing Nadal will come out victorius, but how in the world do you consider him the favorite over Berdych? That young man has beaten him all 3 times they've met on fast (non-Clay) surfaces, and all those wins came in big tourneys (ATP Masters Series) being Cincy, Canada, & Madrid, therefore I won't buy the Wimbledon QF big stage, so Berdych loses mind of thought. Plus as I noted earlier, NO PLAYER not named Federer has beaten Berdych on grass in 2 years. So again, how can anyone think Nadal is favored?

I think after todays win some think he has figured out big hitters. Either that or it's just tardism. I do agree that Berdych would be the favorite since he is such a bad match up with Nadal. It's really his match to lose.

ugotlobbed
07-05-2007, 07:03 PM
Berdych Ftwumtfkers

Preston
07-05-2007, 07:06 PM
Well I can't know anyone for the believing Nadal will come out victorious, but how in the world do you consider him the favorite over Berdych?
Sorry about this grammar mistake. I meant to say, "I can't knock anyone for believing..."

ASP0315
07-05-2007, 07:12 PM
nadal in 5.
4-6 6-7 6-2 6-3 6-4

Geniey2g
07-05-2007, 07:22 PM
Rafa showed me today that I can put all my faith and vCash on him; I believe, biatches!! :cool:

Björki
07-05-2007, 07:27 PM
Vamos Rafa :rocker2:

guga2120
07-05-2007, 07:35 PM
Hope Rafa wins, think Berdych will. Reading his quotes he certainly thinks he will.

Blue Heart24
07-05-2007, 07:43 PM
Yeah but this would be more impressive than ever, given the circumstances :p

Yeah,already making excuses :zzz:

Birdman in 3.

Mansave_75
07-05-2007, 07:51 PM
I think it will be a though match for both, but I expect Nadal to win in 4 or 5 sets I can't see right now anybody taking 3 sets from him in a single match, and if Berdych doesn't put on a high percentage of first serves he's going to suffer very much, same as Nadal, he has to play very agressive not letting Berdych to dictate the points.
And by the way...everybody here is giving Berdych its favour against Nadal because this guy has won Nadal twice on hard courts, but Wimbledon is NOT hard courts, and who's the hell is Berdych?
He won Halle simply because Federer withdrawn from it.
And he had this years' most easy draw of all 8 quarters finalists.
If Bjorkman can take a set from him, why TOP Nadal can take 3???
That's my simple analise of it.

ChinoRios4Ever
07-05-2007, 08:08 PM
coin toss

i cant see a favorite here

but vamos Rafa :D

Eebex
07-05-2007, 08:23 PM
Rafa in 4, May the Light be with you.
Fedtards shall be Terminated and the Light shall Shine in Eternal.

kartveteran
07-05-2007, 08:40 PM
The other thread doesn't have a poll and I really want to know what's the general opinion here about this match.
Most bookmakers have the odds as Nadal 1.6 - Berdych 2.1. How different would the chances be, if we base it on MTF opinions?

natashha
07-05-2007, 08:49 PM
The other thread doesn't have a poll and I really want to know what's the general opinion here about this match.
Most bookmakers have the odds as Nadal 1.6 - Berdych 2.1. How different would the chances be, if we base it on MTF opinions?

Unrealistic. :p

Deivid23
07-05-2007, 08:50 PM
I think it will go to five sets. I don´t have a fucking clue who will win there, though

W!MBLEDON
07-05-2007, 08:59 PM
Berdych 6-3, 6-7(5), 6-3, 6-4.

Deivid23
07-05-2007, 09:04 PM
I seems that a lot of members here feel that Rafa will win, and some even consider him the favorite. Well I can't knock anyone for the believing Nadal will come out victorious, but how in the world do you consider him the favorite over Berdych? That young man has beaten him all 3 times they've met on fast (non-Clay) surfaces, and all those wins came in big tourneys (ATP Masters Series) being Cincy, Canada, & Madrid, therefore I won't buy the Wimbledon QF big stage, so Berdych loses mind of thought. Plus as I noted earlier, NO PLAYER not named Federer has beaten Berdych on grass in 2 years. So again, how can anyone think Nadal is favored?


Nadal is a favourite for all sports bookmakers in the world, hurry up and take advantage of that ;)

rmb6687
07-05-2007, 10:21 PM
whatever my vote in the poll says (berdy in 5) I do not really know since Nadal is such a formidable player. But I really want Tomas to win and I think this is his match to lose. And while I understand that Nadal fans have confidence in their favorite's abilities, I do not understand how you can be so blind at what a terrible match up that tomas is for him. Sometimes it doesn't matter how highly ranked a player is, or how mentally fit they are, when they are fighting against a rival who they usually lose to, a player seems to need even more mental toughness and confidence to get over and win.

And who ever said that Nadal learned how to go against big hitters, as evidenced by his win over Youzhny, has really short term memory. Nadal was going down fast until Youzhny's chronic injury flared up again. Yeah, Nadal is probably in better shape, and therefore gets injured less or whatever, but that wasn't helping him in the first two sets which he lost.

Marek.
07-05-2007, 10:33 PM
And who ever said that Nadal learned how to go against big hitters, as evidenced by his win over Youzhny, has really short term memory. Nadal was going down fast until Youzhny's chronic injury flared up again. Yeah, Nadal is probably in better shape, and therefore gets injured less or whatever, but that wasn't helping him in the first two sets which he lost.

I mentioned that in another post but I don't believe he has. I was just listing that as a reason why some Nadal fans might be so confident in him defeating Berdych. It was evident in that match that big hitters still give Nadal a lot of trouble and I don't know if he would have been able to pull out the win if Youzhny was 100%.

rmb6687
07-05-2007, 10:38 PM
Ooops! I move through these long threads rather quickly, and I guess I didn't read your response well enough.

Sorry about that :D

Naranoc
07-05-2007, 10:41 PM
Big match, Grudge match, QF match, whatever the fuck you want to call it, should be a good match.

Berdman in 4

No more grudge apparently. Berdych said in his post-match interview that all was fine with Nadal, they say hi to each other, he congratulated him for winning Halle etc etc :(

fenomeno2111
07-05-2007, 11:05 PM
The best man out there should win....I wonder if Rafa will play aggresive and step it up like he did today unregardless of how Youzhny was feeling. If he stays back and pretends to win like that Birdman will roast him in three...If he brings the game he had on the Finals last year then he has a chance to take the match. Berdych is the favourite but it should not be taken for granted that he's going to win!

tennisfan856
07-05-2007, 11:39 PM
whenever we discuss the situation where a player whose well known for mental breakdowns and is going against a top seeded player like Nadal, the player usually disappoints and does mentally choke at some point in the match.

Look at Vaidisova and Monfils, both have extreme talent but may not amount to anything because of their mental deficiencies.

Albop
07-05-2007, 11:48 PM
berdych in 4

Clara Bow
07-05-2007, 11:52 PM
whenever we discuss the situation where a player whose well known for mental breakdowns and is going against a top seeded player like Nadal, the player usually disappoints and does mentally choke at some point in the match.



Berdych may choke at times- but he does not do so against Nadal. Rafa is a great match up for Tomas on faster surfaces and Tomas came into Wimbles with a title in Halle and has been playing very well good tennis so far. I would be really surprised if Nadal won this. I am not saying it will be impossible- but he will have to play at a very high level and hope that Tomas does not play the whole match at his best.

Of all the players left- I actually think that Tomas would have the best chance against Roger if that final came to pass if Berdych played to his capabilites. But of course, no need to put the cart before the horse.

Sunset of Age
07-05-2007, 11:57 PM
No more grudge apparently. Berdych said in his post-match interview that all was fine with Nadal, they say hi to each other, he congratulated him for winning Halle etc etc :(

And vice-versa: Rafa said so as well.
It's good to see that these players - who BOTH are reasonable guys - are able to step beyond past 'incidents' and get it over with. Kudos to both gentlemen for that! :yeah:

Voo de Mar
07-06-2007, 01:06 AM
I hope Berdych in 5 but I think Nadal in 4.

Preston
07-06-2007, 01:12 AM
I think it will be a though match for both, but I expect Nadal to win in 4 or 5 sets I can't see right now anybody taking 3 sets from him in a single match, and if Berdych doesn't put on a high percentage of first serves he's going to suffer very much, same as Nadal, he has to play very agressive not letting Berdych to dictate the points.
And by the way...everybody here is giving Berdych its favour against Nadal because this guy has won Nadal twice on hard courts, but Wimbledon is NOT hard courts, and who's the hell is Berdych?
He won Halle simply because Federer withdrawn from it.
And he had this years' most easy draw of all 8 quarters finalists.
If Bjorkman can take a set from him, why TOP Nadal can take 3???
That's my simple analise of it.
2005 Cincinatti, 2006 Canada, and 2006 Madrid are all categorized as Hard courts on atptennis.com, but they may be wrong. Anyways sure this is not hard, but that probably makes it a worse match up for Nadal. No player outside of 'The King of Grass' has beaten Berdych on natures surface in that past 2 years. And Nadal is not Federer.

MCL
07-06-2007, 01:20 AM
prob Berdych in 4 (but Rafa in 3 would be better)

Merton
07-06-2007, 01:31 AM
Tomas in 4, this is a huge opportunity for him.

Merton
07-06-2007, 01:32 AM
Nadal is a favourite for all sports bookmakers in the world, hurry up and take advantage of that ;)

I was surprised at that, I expected this match to be closer to 50-50, it will be interesting to see how the odds go overnight.

robinhood
07-06-2007, 02:45 AM
I want Berby - Baghy semi.
LET'S GO, TOMAS!!!!

My prediction: Berd in 4

Halba
07-06-2007, 02:59 AM
berdych is undefeated on the green stuff this year. only other players to be undefeated are federer and roddick. thats elite company.

NYCtennisfan
07-06-2007, 03:14 AM
One thing that Berdych does really well against Nadal is return the Nadal serve. The serve out wide on the AD side to the BH, and the serve spinning away down the T on the deuce court don't hurt Berdych because he is so tall and has such a long reach (longer reach than average ever for a tall man). He returns the serve sliced out wide on the AD court DTL very well and the one on the deuce court very effectively to the Nadal BH. Nadal doesn't get as many free points on serve vs. Berdych as he does against other players who are not as tall or have as good reach and or hands.

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
07-06-2007, 05:57 AM
One thing that Berdych does really well against Nadal is return the Nadal serve. The serve out wide on the AD side to the BH, and the serve spinning away down the T on the deuce court don't hurt Berdych because he is so tall and has such a long reach (longer reach than average ever for a tall man). He returns the serve sliced out wide on the AD court DTL very well and the one on the deuce court very effectively to the Nadal BH. Nadal doesn't get as many free points on serve vs. Berdych as he does against other players who are not as tall or have as good reach and or hands.


... like when the Bird Man spreads his wings ;)

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/2262/apberdychtomasberdychrebc5.jpg

R4 it's Tomas against Jonas yesterday :angel:

ugotlobbed
07-06-2007, 06:48 AM
berdych will want the win bc i know how much he dislikes rafael nadal, therefore he will fight and not have a brain freeze, nadal may look tough, but he is a pussy when ppl challenge him with controversy much like when soderling did

Action Jackson
07-06-2007, 06:51 AM
Berdych will finish the job.

scarecrows
07-06-2007, 06:53 AM
Nadal in 4

ugotlobbed
07-06-2007, 06:53 AM
hitler has spoken

Action Jackson
07-06-2007, 06:57 AM
Nadal is a favourite for all sports bookmakers in the world, hurry up and take advantage of that ;)

I wonder how long it will last?

yana
07-06-2007, 07:46 AM
And while I understand that Nadal fans have confidence in their favorite's abilities, I do not understand how you can be so blind at what a terrible match up that tomas is for him.


So who is blind anyway? Look at the poll results. There are a few that give Nadal a chance.

bayvalle
07-06-2007, 07:51 AM
I wonder how long it will last?
I am no fan of any player, active or otherwise, but I believe Nadal will continue his "luck" run (remember Soderling and Youzhny?)and will beat Berdych (the number of sets to complete this victory is immaterial). Nadal will also go on beating Djokovic in the semifinals (just like JesusFed will do to Roddick). Yes, we will be seeing another JesusFed-Vamos final. JesusFed collects his 5th consecutive Winbledon title.

Kuhne
07-06-2007, 07:53 AM
The day Rafa wins wimbledon...


is the day the guy Rafa played in that final lost

Deivid23
07-06-2007, 08:00 AM
I was surprised at that, I expected this match to be closer to 50-50, it will be interesting to see how the odds go overnight.

I wonder how long it will last?

I was not surprised, money is slowly coming in Berdych, but it wonīt come enough to make him a favourite, thatīs for sure. But as I said I donīt have a clue about who wins here, you guys have it too clear in your mind :p

Fapmeister
07-06-2007, 08:00 AM
I am no fan of any player, active or otherwise, but I believe Nadal will continue his "luck" run (remember Soderling and Youzhny?)and will beat Berdych (the number of sets to complete this victory is immaterial). Nadal will also go on beating Djokovic in the semifinals (just like JesusFed will do to Roddick). Yes, we will be seeing another JesusFed-Vamos final. JesusFed collects his 5th consecutive Winbledon title.

Who cares about soderling? The fact he almost lost to soderling speaks volumes as soderling isn't even close to the top level players. Getting destroyed by a non-back problem laden youzhny wasn't very impressive either.

Deivid23
07-06-2007, 08:04 AM
Btw, I knew this was a poll that would look very different from others in relation to "official" odds. Here it favours Berdych 75%-25% and in the most important exchange bookmaker online it favours Nadal 56.5%-43.5% atm :eek:

A_Skywalker
07-06-2007, 08:05 AM
Btw, I knew this was a poll that would look very different from others in relation to "official" odds. Here it favours Berdych 75%-25% and in the most important exchange bookmaker online it favours Nadal 56.5%-43.5% atm :eek:

Here the odds are special ;)

scarecrows
07-06-2007, 08:07 AM
Btw, I knew this was a poll that would look very different from others in relation to "official" odds. Here it favours Berdych 75%-25% and in the most important exchange bookmaker online it favours Nadal 56.5%-43.5% atm :eek:

bookies are always afraid to go against Nadal

A_Skywalker
07-06-2007, 08:08 AM
bookies are always afraid to go against Nadal

He talks about exchange.

Action Jackson
07-06-2007, 08:09 AM
I was not surprised, money is slowly coming in Berdych, but it wonīt come enough to make him a favourite, thatīs for sure. But as I said I donīt have a clue about who wins here, you guys have it too clear in your mind :p

Well as long as I can get good odds for Berdych, then I will be happy and even more satisfied if he wins. I am more like Merton, I thought it would be something like a 52-48 or it might finish up with a slight favourite to Nadal.

Though on this surface I do see Berdych with the advantage, this being said it depends on how quickly he settles down knowing it's his 1st Slam QF.

Action Jackson
07-06-2007, 08:11 AM
Btw, I knew this was a poll that would look very different from others in relation to "official" odds. Here it favours Berdych 75%-25% and in the most important exchange bookmaker online it favours Nadal 56.5%-43.5% atm :eek:

I better put my cash down then.

supertommyhaas
07-06-2007, 08:16 AM
nadal in 5, too fit

Deivid23
07-06-2007, 08:20 AM
bookies are always afraid to go against Nadal

He talks about exchange.

At these stages of a GS, odds are pretty much settled by customers of exchanges, so it would be more accurate to say "gamblers" are always afraid to go against Nadal

bokehlicious
07-06-2007, 08:24 AM
I can't believe Berdych wins the poll... This will just be another day at the office for Nadal... *sigh*

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
07-06-2007, 08:51 AM
I can't believe Berdych wins the poll... This will just be another day at the office for Nadal... *sigh*

bah just another day at the office for Nadal... like Toronto, Cincy, Madrid... in brief la routine

safin-rules-no.1
07-06-2007, 08:53 AM
Berdych in 3 sets :D :D :D

Action Jackson
07-06-2007, 08:57 AM
I can't believe Berdych wins the poll... This will just be another day at the office for Nadal... *sigh*

:wavey: jinx.

bokehlicious
07-06-2007, 09:04 AM
:wavey: jinx.

*fingers crossed* :angel: :angel:

thesupreme
07-06-2007, 09:09 AM
I simply cant bet against Rafa doing anything these days, he's as Spartan as I've ever seen him....although logic dictates otherwise I'm going for Rafa in 4 or 5 *again* :)

Geniey2g
07-06-2007, 09:12 AM
Berdych will finish the job.
lol! You realllly hope so, don't you? :p. Much as I like/respect you, I look forward to laughing in your face :cool:

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
07-06-2007, 09:14 AM
Btw, I knew this was a poll that would look very different from others in relation to "official" odds. Here it favours Berdych 75%-25% and in the most important exchange bookmaker online it favours Nadal 56.5%-43.5% atm :eek:


gamblers are not necesseraly tennis lovers, they work with stats, facts. For instance yesterday, the odds of Bjorkman against Berdych were good because Jonas Bjorkman is an experimented player who made 2006 SF at Wimby. It's a true fact you can contest but we all know that a single fact is not significant... imo some (not all) MTF posters are better tipsters than betfair and others.

Deivid23
07-06-2007, 09:21 AM
gamblers are not necesseraly tennis lovers, they work with stats, facts. For instance yesterday, the odds of Bjorkman against Berdych were good because Jonas Bjorkman is an experimented player who made 2006 SF at Wimby. It's a true fact you can contest but we all know that a single fact is not significant... imo some (not all) MTF posters are better tipsters than betfair and others.

If gamblers were just working with stats and facts, Berdych would be a huge favourite as heīs always had the better off Nadal on fast surfaces, fact is that he isnīt at the moment. Results of a poll in MTF sometimes are not useful as it has a lot of biased/fanbases votes. Itīs true that some MTF posters have good and reasonable views and are good at predicting outcomes, but they are a minority here, thatīs for sure

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
07-06-2007, 09:26 AM
it's because as scarecrows wrote earlier: bookies are always afraid to go against Nadal

dijus
07-06-2007, 09:44 AM
I'd say Nadal will clinch it in 4 or in 5 sets after good match ;)

A_Skywalker
07-06-2007, 09:44 AM
it's because as scarecrows wrote earlier: bookies are always afraid to go against Nadal

this odds are from exchange, where people make the odds

Deivid23
07-06-2007, 09:46 AM
it's because as scarecrows wrote earlier: bookies are always afraid to go against Nadal

As I said before (you can read it as well ;) ) I wonder why gamblers are always afraid to go against Nadal :scratch:

bayvalle
07-06-2007, 10:51 AM
If gamblers were just working with stats and facts, Berdych would be a huge favourite as heīs always had the better off Nadal on fast surfaces, fact is that he isnīt at the moment. Results of a poll in MTF sometimes are not useful as it has a lot of biased/fanbases votes. Itīs true that some MTF posters have good and reasonable views and are good at predicting outcomes, but they are a minority here, thatīs for sure
I totally agree that in every match, stats make the difference. But for a change, considering the various disruptions that we have been witnessing these past week or so(e.g. sudden downpour, "gamemanships" (Serena case), etc.) luck - or pure luck - will come into play. It has been proven time and again the luck made the difference on who wins and who loses. Forget the stats for a while, at least during this current tournament. Strange it seems. No wonder why a player who is trailing the match wishes it rains so he can recoup in the locker room (Serena case again.

test
07-06-2007, 10:54 AM
pretty even so far. nice to watch :).

a loong match ahead it seems.

swissfed
07-06-2007, 11:23 AM
Nadal just took the 1st set

Sunset of Age
07-06-2007, 11:25 AM
Looks like I'm going to make a bit of cash today. :angel:

swissfed
07-06-2007, 11:28 AM
I am not annoyed to see this Spanish kid roll into the final as we know Roger Federer will prevent him from clutching the Trophy.

Sunset of Age
07-06-2007, 11:30 AM
I am not annoyed to see this Spanish kid roll into the final as we know Roger Federer will prevent him from clutching the Trophy.

I'm not so sure about that, as a matter of fact... ;)

marcRD
07-06-2007, 11:37 AM
I am very impressed by Nadal in this match, he is proving me and other critics wrong by clearly dominating against Berdych.

Johnny Groove
07-06-2007, 11:39 AM
I am very impressed by Nadal in this match, he is proving me and other critics wrong by clearly dominating against Berdych.

Told ya so :angel:

I wonder how much money the books made today what with making Nadal the favorite despite previous fast court meetings with Berdych

Sunset of Age
07-06-2007, 11:40 AM
I am very impressed by Nadal in this match, he is proving me and other critics wrong by clearly dominating against Berdych.

Maybe all that 'cupcake draw', 'luck', and otherwise talk from last year is now definitely proven WRONG? ;) The guy IS a pretty good grasscourt player - and he's become a lot better than he was last year.
Funny to see so many people wouldn't believe he'd made a good run at Wimbly again - both the fans AND the haters. :cool:

Rommella
07-06-2007, 11:41 AM
Seems th tie-break took the fight out of Berdych.

Bazooka
07-06-2007, 11:43 AM
What would be the excuses today? is he delaying game? rival injury? rain delays favoring him? easy draw?

I supose he will win today, but even if he loses (which always can happen) I hope the old myth about Nadal being just lucky on grass is never mentioned again except by the same 2-3 deep tards we all know.

Johnny Groove
07-06-2007, 11:44 AM
Seems th tie-break took the fight out of Berdych.

Looks to me like Nadal is taking the fight out of Berdych

Halba
07-06-2007, 11:45 AM
haha nadal is wasting the sucka!!!

swissfed
07-06-2007, 11:46 AM
The Secret of Nadal doing so well at Wimbledon is because of the very aggressive mind he holds on court.

Halba
07-06-2007, 11:47 AM
The Secret of Nadal doing so well at Wimbledon is because of the very aggressive mind he holds on court.

he is coming closer to the baseline and has all the shots. he plays percentage tennis.

anon57
07-06-2007, 11:48 AM
Nadal does so well at Wimbledon because he's a great grassplayer as he's showing in this match. Berdych is a pretty bad match-up for Nadal and untill now he's defeating him convincingly.

test
07-06-2007, 11:49 AM
12 net points for nadal vs 1 for Berdych. Great stuff.

marcRD
07-06-2007, 11:49 AM
Seems th tie-break took the fight out of Berdych.

Yes, Berdych hasnt really faced the scenario where things go against him in the beginning against Nadal. It seems he cant handle with that very well.

Halba
07-06-2007, 11:50 AM
Nadal does so well at Wimbledon because he's a great grassplayer as he's showing in this match. Berdych is a pretty bad match-up for Nadal and untill now he's defeating him convincingly.

yep he's a good grassplayer. only serve/volleyers can beat him, if they have a good day. but how consistent will his opponents be on the day? not many have the mettle to beat him other than fedgod.

bokehlicious
07-06-2007, 11:52 AM
This will just be another day at the office for Nadal... *sigh*

That was so obvious... :zzz:

swissfed
07-06-2007, 11:53 AM
Two sets up for Nadal, Let's hope he finishes in 3

anon57
07-06-2007, 11:54 AM
Yes, Berdych hasnt really faced the scenario where things go against him in the beginning against Nadal. It seems he cant handle with that very well.

He's come back from a set down in Cincinati and Bastad (although he didn't win that match). It's not because things go against him Nadal is just playing better.

sykotique
07-06-2007, 11:55 AM
Nadal is dominating. The grudge match is not living up to the hype. For shame.

test
07-06-2007, 11:56 AM
Berdych looks like he just gave up. What the hell kinda play is that...


oh maan. i can just imagine the meltdowns of certain posters after this match :).

Halba
07-06-2007, 11:57 AM
hahaha go home piggy roaster #1

Bazooka
07-06-2007, 12:00 PM
Don't forget the mental strength. I am not watching the match, just stats,but that tie-break showed his ability to focus and gain important points.

bokehlicious
07-06-2007, 12:01 PM
This Nadal is amazing, definitely some GOAT material out there :cool:

Johnny Groove
07-06-2007, 12:02 PM
This Nadal is amazing, definitely some GOAT material out there :cool:

Fucking right :rocker2:

l_mac
07-06-2007, 12:02 PM
This Nadal is amazing, definitely some GOAT material out there :cool:

:lol:

I love that you are hating. every. second. of. this.

RonE
07-06-2007, 12:03 PM
Credit where credit is due. Nadal is simply outplaying Berdych, he is more aggressive taking control of the points and he is exposing Tomas' limitations. No excuses whatsoever he is just too good so far :hatoff:

Bazooka
07-06-2007, 12:03 PM
mmmm... Where are all the haters? don't make us mention names! come and talk, guys!

anon57
07-06-2007, 12:03 PM
Don't forget the mental strength. I am not watching the match, just stats,but that tie-break showed his ability to focus and gain important points.

I can't see much of the match but the statistic that's most surprised me it the percentage of points Nadal is winning on his second serve, he's winning 75% of the points on his second serve.

sigmagirl91
07-06-2007, 12:03 PM
Berdych in 4.

Nadal, despite his condition must be mentally shattered. Not only did he play 5 sets today, he was as pumped as I've ever seen him. To come out tomorrow and retain that level of focus and intensity would be a monumental effort.

He needs to be as aggressive as he was towards the end of his match today, otherwise he'll be out of here in no time.

I don't expect Rafa to win, but he often surprises me. I hope he does again tomorrow.

Apparently, Rafa's handling things well.

Halba
07-06-2007, 12:05 PM
rafa's seeing the court like a fucking clay court right now!!!

adee-gee
07-06-2007, 12:07 PM
Apparently, Rafa's handling things well.

Rafa is playing brilliantly, first serve % of 77% in these conditions is incredible. He's being aggressive from the baseline and his volleying has been great. His forehand is back to its best :dance:

I'm glad to be proven wrong, the boy never fails to amaze me :hatoff:

Mistaflava
07-06-2007, 12:08 PM
:haha:


whats the excuse this time? Like I said before the match, not happening, not here, not now. Nadal wiped the floor with this clown. Now onto other matches...

Mistaflava
07-06-2007, 12:09 PM
rafa's seeing the court like a fucking clay court right now!!!



did you ever think that maybe he's just a good player on all surfaces???

Metis
07-06-2007, 12:09 PM
Wow, just wow!!! :haha:

bokehlicious
07-06-2007, 12:11 PM
:lol:

I love that you are hating. every. second. of. this.

VAMOS ! :rocker2:

sigmagirl91
07-06-2007, 12:12 PM
Rafa is playing brilliantly, first serve % of 77% in these conditions is incredible. He's being aggressive from the baseline and his volleying has been great. His forehand is back to its best :dance:

I'm glad to be proven wrong, the boy never fails to amaze me :hatoff:

This is all over. I mean, damn....he practically steamrolled Berdych after the TB.

nhissan
07-06-2007, 12:13 PM
who is commentating on BBC?

He said that Nadal would beat Djokovic or Baghdatis without any problem :rolleyes:

marcRD
07-06-2007, 12:13 PM
This Nadal is amazing, definitely some GOAT material out there :cool:

Irony is not funny anymore. Nadal is going to be a great challenge for Federer in the future outside clay.

marcRD
07-06-2007, 12:14 PM
who is commentating on BBC?

He said that Nadal would beat Djokovic or Baghdatis without any problem :rolleyes:

Baghdatis yes, but I dont think Djoko would be easy.

bokehlicious
07-06-2007, 12:14 PM
Irony is not funny anymore. Nadal is going to be a great challenge for Federer in the future outside clay.

:scared:

:lol:

HelenShivers
07-06-2007, 12:16 PM
Get the fuck out of here Rafa, its over.

Berdych in 4.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL :help:

Ales_Alessandra
07-06-2007, 12:17 PM
Will see what happens, but Nadal winning now will be hell motivated to get into the final!

ASP0315
07-06-2007, 12:21 PM
MTF Poll favorite got his ass kicked. :haha: BTW "Tired" Nadal is very strong. :yeah: Vamos Rafa.

MCL
07-06-2007, 12:22 PM
prob Berdych in 4 (but Rafa in 3 would be better)

I got what I wanted :cool: :p

bayvalle
07-06-2007, 12:23 PM
This Nadal is amazing, definitely some GOAT material out there :cool:
Nadal indeed is amazing. Although some fans (including Rafa fans) cannot help but be disgusted at how he stares at his opponent. Most often than not, his "I will kill you" stares do not augur well to "conservative" fans. We hope he mellows by age 23 or 24, by which time he will be looking at his opponents with "lesser" contempt and, and at the same time, he will not be taking "winning" all too seriously. It is a just a tennis game, Rafa, not a bout with the lions in the Colosseum. You can learn from the Swiss master.

bokehlicious
07-06-2007, 12:26 PM
Nadal indeed is amazing. Although some fans (including Rafa fans) cannot help but be disgusted at how he stares at his opponent. Most often than not, his "I will kill you" stares do not augur well to "conservative" fans. We hope he mellows by age 23 or 24, by which time he will be looking at his opponents with "lesser" contempt and, and at the same time, he will not be taking "winning" all too seriously. It is a just a tennis game, Rafa, not a bout with the lions in the Colosseum. You can learn from the Swiss master.

BS ! This is a fuckin' war out there ! :armed: :boxing:



:o

:secret: of course I couldn't agree more with you ;)