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Nadal-"Wimbledon organizers don't care about the players"

Hugh Jaas
07-05-2007, 12:49 AM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article2025851.ece





I personally think this is Turning out to be the worst Wimbledon championships ever. The organisers make the number 2 seed play over 5 days to complete a match. On the other hand Rogi the umber 1 seed is properly relaxing at a health spa getting a manicure and Thai massage before having a round of 18 with tiger woods.....




White only uniform, no middle sunday play. Wimbledon can shove their traditions and move in 2007 NOT 1907

RickDaStick
07-05-2007, 12:54 AM
Quit your bitching Rafa Roids. Of course the Wimbledon organizers dont care about a clay court specialst like yourself.

Johnny Groove
07-05-2007, 12:54 AM
Quit your bitching Rafa Roids. Of course the Wimbledon organizers dont care about a clay court specialst like yourself.

as soon as i saw your name in a thread about Nadal, i knew you would be spewing some bullshit, and well, i wasnt disappointed :retard:

Did you even read the fucking article, he is raising the same points that everyone else is raising about the scheduling. The same retarted scheduling that makes the Croatards look like fucking Einsteins. The man is playing his 3rd round match on the 2nd wednesday of a slam, for fuck's sake

RagingLamb
07-05-2007, 12:56 AM
what does ljubicic specialize in again? Hair products?

Marek.
07-05-2007, 12:56 AM
Tradition > Players
Get it right Nadal. :p ;)

scarecrows
07-05-2007, 12:57 AM
what does ljubicic specialize in again? Hair products?

:haha: :rolls:

joke of the year

savesthedizzle
07-05-2007, 12:57 AM
Nole agreed with most of what Rafa said in his interview...

Q. The rain is a very unfortunate thing that nobody can control. You now face the possibility of playing six consecutive days. In your mind, are you satisfied the tournament has handled the scheduling of the players properly?

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Well, it's a difficult task to talk about. But it's not on me to organize the matches and the schedule. As a player, one thing is for sure, that we are very frustrated in the times like this when the rain is on basically every day. What I might say I didn't agree with is that there was no play on Sunday, which is I think a bad decision by the organizators (sic). They knew the forecast for this week is going to be bad, is going to be a lot of rain. It was on the end of last week a lot of rain. I didn't understand why they didn't have any play on Sunday. Plus Sunday was a very nice day so they would finish all the matches. So I can blame them for that situation. But on the other hand it's nature and you can't fight against it. You know, it's stronger than us.

Johnny Groove
07-05-2007, 01:00 AM
what does ljubicic specialize in again? Hair products?

He also specializes in bitching and whining like a teenage rich girl

tennisluckyfree
07-05-2007, 01:00 AM
This is something almost every single player agrees! well, probably except Federer ;)

star
07-05-2007, 01:02 AM
Actual quote is: “That’s very tough for the players. They don’t think very much about the players here maybe.”

I love this bit that ESPN has on the Nadal match: Dark clouds and then the title: Riders on the Storm. And then a couple of lines from the song with black and gray pictures of the players under them and finally the summation: Nadal and Soderling: 0
Weather: 3

ycpg
07-05-2007, 01:02 AM
what does ljubicic specialize in again? Hair products?

:lol:

Enjoy Incubus
07-05-2007, 01:05 AM
:haha: :rolls:

joke of the year
Indeed:lol:

scarecrows
07-05-2007, 01:07 AM
I was kidding BTW, that joke is so fucking old and sucks big time

RickDaStick
07-05-2007, 01:08 AM
I was kidding BTW, that joke is so fucking old and sucks big time

Sheeesshh!! Dont bring down the :retard: , he really thought he had something going there

scarecrows
07-05-2007, 01:11 AM
yeah my bad, but I'm too pissed that I'm not getting a bad rep and WTA World despite trying

Hugh Jaas
07-05-2007, 01:12 AM
Tradition > Players
Get it right Nadal. :p ;)

Tradition? you are a typical American with your warped views on EVERY other country.

Americans think that tradition is a magical exotic foreign concept but you are very very wrong.

Americans put Wimbledon+tradition together and think All English (corr. British but most of you yanks moronically think Britain IS England)people wear bowler hats and drink tea with the queen before going back to their country cottage house via Rolls-Royce horseless carriage.

Wrong Tradition is just an illusion Wimbledon organisers promote and if you see firsthand you will see that the competition and their traditions are a fukcing farce.

star
07-05-2007, 01:21 AM
Tradition? you are a typical American with your warped views on EVERY other country.

Americans think that tradition is a magical exotic foreign concept but you are very very wrong.

Americans put Wimbledon+tradition together and think All English (corr. British but most of you yanks moronically think Britain IS England)people wear bowler hats and drink tea with the queen before going back to their country cottage house via Rolls-Royce horseless carriage.

Wrong Tradition is just an illusion Wimbledon organisers promote and if you see firsthand you will see that the competition and their traditions are a fukcing farce.

Calm down.

First, you are making some sort of ignorant, sweeping generalizations about Americans.

Second, you may have missed the tongue in cheek aspect to that post.

Third, everyone knows that Wimbledon just uses "tradition" to justify what they do -- including Americans.

crimimny

Hugh Jaas
07-05-2007, 01:39 AM
Remember that Nadal hardly ever complains about anything. Even earlier this season when a frustrated Federer was trying to belittle Nadal's overwhelming superiority against him on clay, Nadal reponded by saying Federer is the greatest player in the world, it was an honour to play him...etc.,

QED: Nadal uses negative tones sparingly.

However, you don't have to be a genius to work out that it wasn't just tradition that has made the tournament grossly unfair for those in the bottom half of the Mens draw, but poor scheduling.

Forget the MS issue. It's arguable at least that the tournament organisers had a point about that, in that they were only a little behind schedule, and it's not their fault that the second week has been a mix of heavy thunderstorms (including a heavy hailstorm yesterday) and teh occasional glimpse of watery sunshine.

However, firstly, they insisted on starting in early afternoon (today started at 12pm after yesterday's 11am start (before that it was either 1pm or 2pm) can anyone explain THAT?

Secondly, they insisted on playing Nadal second after a ladies match. Even though the ladies matches scheduled before Nadal were more at a more advanced stage and, for that matter best of three. Why? Do they have some really old fashioned notions that the women can't be kept waiting?

Thirdly, they made Nadal and Soderling come on for 15 minutes on one day (I think it was Monday) even though it was still raining, while there was no play at all on other courts (Nadal cites this in the interview carried on Marca).

Then yesterday they came off at 8.10pm while their was still enough light for at lest another 40 minutes play.

Finally - and this has to be an even stupider move, they did not schedule the fourth round match for the winner of Nadal/Soderling until tomorrow, even though the match was at 4-4 in the fifth set - SURELY the organisers must have understood that it was preferable for Nadal/Soderling to play (or at least start)another match today, rather than have to play four games in four days (should either have got to the Final)?

This is crazy. I'm not saying that the organisers have deliberate favoured Federer. There's absolutely no evidence for that. But there is no doubt in my mind that had Federer been in Nadal's position, they would have shown more deference to him. Don't give me this nonsense that everyone is treated equally - if that is so, how come the bottom half is much stronger (in terms of players whose game is better suited to grass) than the top half? And trust me, Federer would certainly have complained a lot more than Nadal. Nadal only complained at the end, after he had won.

The reality folks is that as beautiful looks, it is run by people more interested in the All England Club and its members than in the service provided to the players or the general public. As a spectator, I would feel short changed. Wimbledon is a rip off anyway, but this particular dose of unprofessionalism really takes the biscuit.

GlennMirnyi
07-05-2007, 01:46 AM
Wrong. Wimbledon doesn't care about you, Rafa Roids. Learn to play tennis and people will respect you more.

Johnny Groove
07-05-2007, 01:47 AM
Wrong. Wimbledon doesn't care about you, Rafa Roids. Learn to play tennis and people will respect you more.

nice to see you parroting what the other Rafahaters are saying, Gu, nice to see nothing has changed in my absence

GlennMirnyi
07-05-2007, 01:50 AM
Remember that Nadal hardly ever complains about anything. Even earlier this season when a frustrated Federer was trying to belittle Nadal's overwhelming superiority against him on clay, Nadal reponded by saying Federer is the greatest player in the world, it was an honour to play him...etc.,

QED: Nadal uses negative tones sparingly.

However, you don't have to be a genius to work out that it wasn't just tradition that has made the tournament grossly unfair for those in the bottom half of the Mens draw, but poor scheduling.

Forget the MS issue. It's arguable at least that the tournament organisers had a point about that, in that they were only a little behind schedule, and it's not their fault that the second week has been a mix of heavy thunderstorms (including a heavy hailstorm yesterday) and teh occasional glimpse of watery sunshine.

However, firstly, they insisted on starting in early afternoon (today started at 12pm after yesterday's 11am start (before that it was either 1pm or 2pm) can anyone explain THAT?

Secondly, they insisted on playing Nadal second after a ladies match. Even though the ladies matches scheduled before Nadal were more at a more advanced stage and, for that matter best of three. Why? Do they have some really old fashioned notions that the women can't be kept waiting?

Thirdly, they made Nadal and Soderling come on for 15 minutes on one day (I think it was Monday) even though it was still raining, while there was no play at all on other courts (Nadal cites this in the interview carried on Marca).

Then yesterday they came off at 8.10pm while their was still enough light for at lest another 40 minutes play.

Finally - and this has to be an even stupider move, they did not schedule the fourth round match for the winner of Nadal/Soderling until tomorrow, even though the match was at 4-4 in the fifth set - SURELY the organisers must have understood that it was preferable for Nadal/Soderling to play (or at least start)another match today, rather than have to play four games in four days (should either have got to the Final)?

This is crazy. I'm not saying that the organisers have deliberate favoured Federer. There's absolutely no evidence for that. But there is no doubt in my mind that had Federer been in Nadal's position, they would have shown more deference to him. Don't give me this nonsense that everyone is treated equally - if that is so, how come the bottom half is much stronger (in terms of players whose game is better suited to grass) than the top half? And trust me, Federer would certainly have complained a lot more than Nadal. Nadal only complained at the end, after he had won.

The reality folks is that as beautiful looks, it is run by people more interested in the All England Club and its members than in the service provided to the players or the general public. As a spectator, I would feel short changed. Wimbledon is a rip off anyway, but this particular dose of unprofessionalism really takes the biscuit.

Biased :bs:.

He's always whining and bitching about something. If it's not the schedule it's because he's injured or because the MC is too fast, etc.
Always whining about injuries too, time for him to accept outside clay the roids can't help him that much.

NYCtennisfan
07-05-2007, 01:53 AM
Tradition? you are a typical American with your warped views on EVERY other country.

Americans think that tradition is a magical exotic foreign concept but you are very very wrong.

Americans put Wimbledon+tradition together and think All English (corr. British but most of you yanks moronically think Britain IS England)people wear bowler hats and drink tea with the queen before going back to their country cottage house via Rolls-Royce horseless carriage.

Wrong Tradition is just an illusion Wimbledon organisers promote and if you see firsthand you will see that the competition and their traditions are a fukcing farce.

England's not like that? Well that changes everything...

MusicMyst
07-05-2007, 01:57 AM
Tradition? you are a typical American with your warped views on EVERY other country.

Americans think that tradition is a magical exotic foreign concept but you are very very wrong.

Americans put Wimbledon+tradition together and think All English (corr. British but most of you yanks moronically think Britain IS England)people wear bowler hats and drink tea with the queen before going back to their country cottage house via Rolls-Royce horseless carriage.

Wrong Tradition is just an illusion Wimbledon organisers promote and if you see firsthand you will see that the competition and their traditions are a fukcing farce.

And apparently you're too moronic to know what a "wink" is.

Fapmeister
07-05-2007, 02:33 AM
It was really, really stupid of them to not play on sunday, and by now in retrospect I bet most of the organizers are thinking the same thing. But 2 nights ago on espn they had the head organizer dude for wimbledon on and he had the perfect opportunity to say it was a mistake and apologize to players and fans alike, but instead he blew off the notion. I have no respect for people who take no responsibility for their mistakes/failures.

Oliboyz
07-05-2007, 03:13 AM
I completely agree with Nadal this time... Wimbledon is used to be my favourtie Grand Slam, but after this year it become my worst Grand Slam. :(

Marek.
07-05-2007, 03:13 AM
Hugh Jaas, I was being sarcastic. That's why I used :p ;) should I use more?:confused: :rolleyes: :o :p ;) :) :D

FedFan_2007
07-05-2007, 03:26 AM
Rafatards hate any traditions and want humanity to become one giant moshpit.

Johnny Groove
07-05-2007, 03:30 AM
Rafatards hate any traditions and want humanity to become one giant moshpit.

yep, that is our agenda, great detective work, Sherlock fucking Holmes :yeah:

Roddickominator
07-05-2007, 03:30 AM
Nadal should just shut up....if he had taken out that clown Soderling in straight sets like he should have, then he'd have all the rest he needed. Figures he'd try to blame it on the organizers of the most prestigious tournament in the sport....you aren't bigger than the sport Rafa, no matter what your predominantly female and homosexual male fanbase tells you.

Kolya
07-05-2007, 03:30 AM
No one cares about Wimbledon.

Action Jackson
07-05-2007, 03:36 AM
This is not news, they have never cared, why start now?

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-05-2007, 03:38 AM
This is not news, they have never cared, why start now?

Wimbledon is beyond obsolete and it should be thrown out with all the other old garbage.

El Legenda
07-05-2007, 03:39 AM
Nadal sucks.

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-05-2007, 03:41 AM
Has Llubhoho achieved anything yet.

The hero of sad bald losers.

El Legenda
07-05-2007, 03:48 AM
Has Llubhoho achieved anything yet.

The hero of sad bald losers.

N A D A L S U C K S

Svetlana.
07-05-2007, 04:00 AM
I agree with Rafa and he said exactly what everybody is thinking about. :p

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-05-2007, 04:08 AM
N A D A L S U C K S

Poor guy is stuck in a loop.

Dont worry the light will heal you.

Andi-M
07-05-2007, 04:20 AM
They know the forecast

so approximately how many rain delays has lord fed had to cope with again...??

wimbledon only cares about tiger tim and lord fed everyone knows that!

Murray will never get the kind of treatment these fools get!

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-05-2007, 04:21 AM
They know the forecast

so approximately how many rain delays has lord fed had to cope with again...??

wimbledon only cares about tiger tim and lord fed everyone knows that!

Murray will never get the kind of treatment these fools get!

Great post.

The bias on the ATP disgusts me.

El Legenda
07-05-2007, 04:40 AM
They know the forecast

so approximately how many rain delays has lord fed had to cope with again...??

wimbledon only cares about tiger tim and lord fed everyone knows that!

Murray will never get the kind of treatment these fools get!

how about week one when top half had to play everyday from Monday to Friday :retard:
payback is a bitch :)

tangerine_dream
07-05-2007, 04:58 AM
what does ljubicic specialize in again? Hair products?
Sleep-inducing products :zzz:

Alex999
04-29-2008, 09:47 PM
Wimbledon chiefs reject Sunday start
April 29th, 2008, The Press Association
Wimbledon organisers have revealed they have no intention of emulating the French Open by starting the tournament on a Sunday.

Last year's schedule was thrown into chaos by the worst weather to hit the All England Club for 25 years, sparking an angry response from some players.

But Tim Phillips, chairman of the All England Club, insisted he was not persuaded by the arguments to extend the length of the tournament and said: "At the moment we have no plans for a Sunday start."

He added: "There is an argument for the Sunday start and that's partly based on the fact it's a good day to get impact through television.

"Organisers want to make a bit of noise at the beginning of the tournament when people are not in the office or at school.

"But we think people notice Wimbledon is on already, so we don't have to go down that route.

"The disadvantage is it complicates issues for the tours if you encroach into the previous week. So we're being considerate to them.

"It might be beneficial for families to start on the Sunday but there are other ways to get people into the ground."

Last year Rafael Nadal, Novak Djokovic and television pundit John McEnroe were among the critics of the way officials dealt with the match congestion caused by the conditions.

Deboogle!.
04-29-2008, 09:54 PM
:tape:

Renaud
04-29-2008, 10:00 PM
The solution is not sunday start anyway (who wants that ??), but playing on middle sunday....

The Pro
04-29-2008, 10:13 PM
I agree.

Though I would love it if Wimbers started on Sunday as I would not be at work. :/

bjurra
04-29-2008, 10:55 PM
Very nice of him not wanting to interfer with other tourneys but how many of the 256 singles MD players are still in tournaments the one or two days before? Not many.

Knightmace
04-29-2008, 11:24 PM
That sucks for Nadal, Wimbledon needs to be more organized, this is my favorite Grand Slam.

Sunset of Age
04-30-2008, 12:34 AM
That sucks for Nadal, Wimbledon needs to be more organized, this is my favorite Grand Slam.

It sucked BIG TIME for him last year, so I can well understand Rafa's dismal about this. I love Wimbledon to death, but they might well do with some change in their archaic organization structure - at least as long as that center court roof isn't finished yet.

rocketassist
04-30-2008, 12:37 AM
He was right.

Wimbledon organisers put tradition first, players second, cos they're lame.

GlennMirnyi
04-30-2008, 12:46 AM
Quit your bitching Rafa Roids. Of course the Wimbledon organizers dont care about a clay court specialst like yourself.

That is probably one of the top 10 posts ever in MTF.

GlennMirnyi
04-30-2008, 12:48 AM
N A D A L S U C K S

And this is another post for the top 10.


Why is that moonballer complaining anyways? He should be pretty happy they slowed the courts as hell.

FedFan_2007
04-30-2008, 01:10 AM
Glenn - Rafatards want it ALL ways for piggy.

cardio
04-30-2008, 08:56 AM
And they raised prize money again, now winner will get £750 000, 7.1% more than last year. But they really should play on Middle Sunday, it is beyond stupid ta waste perfectly good weekend day doing nothing.
http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/pressreleases/2008prizemoney_29_04_08.html

Foxy
04-30-2008, 10:47 AM
I have never liked Wimbledon although I had been supporting Edberg and Sampras last decade. It is just not that interesting for me compared to other slams. That awesome final match last year is highly unlikely to happen again regardless the players who reach the final.

Zaba
04-30-2008, 11:11 AM
It would have been better to start a new thread for this article. It is not directly related to Rafa's comments last year, which were about the refusal of the organizers to be flexible and schedule play on the middle Sunday due to the bad weather (something which has been done in the past), not about a Sunday start for the tournament (this would be an entirely new thing). This article/issue has nothing in particular to do with Rafa, which seems to be confusing some people a little bit :confused:

BodyServe
04-30-2008, 11:46 AM
Nadal shouldn't complain.
Without the change of grass realised during autumn 2001 (100% ryegrass),he couldn't pass the 3rd round.

Zaba
04-30-2008, 11:59 AM
:rolleyes:

nobama
04-30-2008, 12:29 PM
Haven't a number of players complained about the Sunday starts? Seems to me the issue is not a Sunday start but playing middle Sunday - especially if the weather is a factor. I don't think the tournament is intentionally trying to screw Nadal (or anyone else) over.

rocketassist
04-30-2008, 12:58 PM
Haven't a number of players complained about the Sunday starts? Seems to me the issue is not a Sunday start but playing middle Sunday - especially if the weather is a factor. I don't think the tournament is intentionally trying to screw Nadal (or anyone else) over.

No one's saying they are, but their treatment of players and stubborn refusal to play in the middle Sunday took the piss. They just won't let tradition go.