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I Have To Ask... Does Roddick Have Any Chance?

LleytonMonfils
07-04-2007, 06:42 PM
Is there anything new you guys see in his game that can give Federer problems giving he gets that far. I mean this is probably going to be THE MATCH. Forget about it on anywhere else. Roddick's best surface and he now has Connors here for first time. Do you really see Roddick competing with Federer?

Beforehand
07-04-2007, 06:43 PM
Everytime Roddick starts playing well, I get nervous as a Federer fan. That said, in this tournament, I feel better than I ever have despite Roddick's play about Roger having to play him. The only worry is about Roger's form after a 6 day break.

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-04-2007, 06:45 PM
If he plays his game (with good serving) and is clutch he can win.
Federer is worse than last year while Roddick is better.

mickymouse
07-04-2007, 06:46 PM
In my opinion, Roddick played much better during the US Open and AO.

Deboogle!.
07-04-2007, 06:47 PM
no. he's awful from the ground this year, he's getting by on competing well.

Beforehand
07-04-2007, 06:47 PM
If he plays his game (with good serving) and is clutch he can win.
Federer is worse than last year while Roddick is better.
Where has he been worse than last year?

Horatio Caine
07-04-2007, 06:47 PM
No.

But if he doesn't serve well, Gasquet will put him out of his misery beforehand.

Beforehand
07-04-2007, 06:48 PM
I think Gasquet can catch Andy off guard if he keeps taking these weird walkabouts.

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-04-2007, 06:49 PM
Where has he been worse than last year?

Last year Federer was unbeatable.

He has already lost to guys not named Nadal.

Beforehand
07-04-2007, 06:50 PM
Last year Federer was unbeatable.

He has already lost to guys not named Nadal.
He doesn't really look too much worse here at Wimbledon, though.

adee-gee
07-04-2007, 06:50 PM
He'll beat Gasquet and lose to Federer.

Unless Federer has an awful day, there's just no way I can see Andy winning. He just can't hurt him during rallies. If I were him I'd just try and hit a winner off every ball, any rally lasting more than 3 strokes he's got about a 25% chance of winning.

elessar
07-04-2007, 06:51 PM
I don't really know where Roddick would find the confidence, let alone the game, to beat him considering their previous meeting. Plus Federer just feels so at home on grass, mentally he's not the same player there. The only place where I'd say there would be a slightly bigger chance for him to win would be a very fast indoor court and hope federer has a bad receiving day. But you never know what can happen if Federer is really subpar he might be able to take advantage of it

Horatio Caine
07-04-2007, 06:51 PM
Last year Federer was unbeatable.

He has already lost to guys not named Nadal.

Canas, Volandri and Nadal all play a similat game...only to varying levels.

Roddick is a complete opposite of them and his h2h says it all. Besides, I'd say that Roddick's form behind his serve isn't all that good. He wouldn't be top 20 (perhaps not even top 50) right now without that huge weapon.

G4.
07-04-2007, 06:52 PM
thing is he can't hit a clean winner , his groundstrokes are getting worse with time

Marek.
07-04-2007, 06:52 PM
Last year Federer was unbeatable.

He has already lost to guys not named Nadal.

He's only playing great in the slams now. He's not willing to give it his all in every tournament he plays and why should he? From what I've seen Federer is playing as well as he ever had while Roddick still needs to find his forehand. If they do meet in the SF's I hope it's a close match but I don't think it will be, sadly.

jcempire
07-04-2007, 06:53 PM
he got to win tommorrow before He get Roger on Semi.

Roger is a human, He always got a chance to beat Roger, But that big point is how can he catch the chance.

Anyway, Good luck to Andy tommorrow

LeChuck
07-04-2007, 06:56 PM
Roddick won't be able to beat Federer. Federer will use his backhand slice to draw Roddick further in, and Roddick will rush to the net like he always does against Federer on the back of a poor approach shot, and Federer will consistently pass him with consumate ease. Also it isn't that surprising that Federer virtually always hits more aces and unreturnable serves than Roddick whenever they meet, which highlights that Federer can read Roddick's serve like a book. Combine that with the fact that Federer is better than Roddick from both baseline flanks, volleys better and moves better, and it's hard to see Roddick being able to win 2 sets against Federer let alone the 3 he'd need to beat him.

ezekiel
07-04-2007, 06:58 PM
With Roddick you know what you are gonna get. I'd say the same thing with Roger and their match would end like any other of their last 10 matches but the long delay is the wildcard

anon57
07-04-2007, 07:03 PM
First they both still need to make the semi, which I admit is likely but still. Given Federer's long delay he might be rusty and not be as good on return as he usely is. So I think Roddick has a chance if he plays extremely well and Federer is off

Beforehand
07-04-2007, 07:08 PM
Roddick won't be able to beat Federer. Federer will use his backhand slice to draw Roddick further in, and Roddick will rush to the net like he always does against Federer on the back of a poor approach shot, and Federer will consistently pass him with consumate ease. Also it isn't that surprising that Federer virtually always hits more aces and unreturnable serves than Roddick whenever they meet, which highlights that Federer can read Roddick's serve like a book. Combine that with the fact that Federer is better than Roddick from both baseline flanks, volleys better and moves better, and it's hard to see Roddick being able to win 2 sets against Federer let alone the 3 he'd need to beat him.
Some of Andy's approaches against Paulo made me want to throw my entire TV set out the window.

World Beater
07-04-2007, 07:15 PM
roddick's fh seems to reappear from time to time. he will need it badly if he wants a chance.

federer is WAY BETTER this year on grass than last year. His game is so much more solid off both sides now. Roddick is essentially the same except perhaps he has more confidence.

Beforehand
07-04-2007, 07:19 PM
I would agree there. Roger REALLY worked his backhand into form during last year's indoor season, and it's better than it's ever been. He's also seemed to have found a good chunk of his forehand again, though it's not completely on still.

Sofyaxo
07-04-2007, 07:20 PM
No.

Andy turns into a completely different player against Roger. All Roger has to do is break him once and Andy is gone.

His serve stats are very good, and his confidence is high.

I don't think it will be a beat down if it happens, but I don't think he has any chance to win. Four sets Andy taking the second.

Roddickominator
07-04-2007, 07:38 PM
If Roddick serves well then he definately has a shot....especially with how well he's been playing in tiebreaks. Of course it's different against Federer than it is against anyone else....but like Roddick said, he only has to beat him once. If their previous encounters aren't lingering in the back of his mind and he is confident, it can happen.

CyBorg
07-04-2007, 07:42 PM
Roger is in an amazingly great position. He gets a ton of rest and then he can wear out whatever build up rust against Ferrero without any real fear of losing.

Roddick just isn't the same as three years ago. I understand why he's toned things down a bit - he was prone to playing like gangbusters in stretches when he was younger, only to inevitably lose strength and energy and let down. I think that Connors has encouraged him to spread out his energy more evenly and swing away less violently, conserving his strength.

But I don't see how this can help against Roger. I think Andy has become a bit of a more consistent player since Connors came onboard, but he has nothing whatsoever to trouble Roger. And his serve... well, there used to be a time when everyone but Roger feared it. Today, many players seem perfectly comfortable getting it back into play.

Chaos Inc.
07-04-2007, 08:00 PM
Is there anything new you guys see in his game that can give Federer problems giving he gets that far. I mean this is probably going to be THE MATCH. Forget about it on anywhere else. Roddick's best surface and he now has Connors here for first time. Do you really see Roddick competing with Federer?





No.

LoveFifteen
07-04-2007, 08:05 PM
Roddick will not beat Federer. Case closed. :shrug:

guga2120
07-04-2007, 08:07 PM
Heard all of this in Australia, if Andy beats Gasquest which i assume he will, the semis will be about the same.

I mean come on 1-13.

knightsky
07-04-2007, 08:17 PM
No chance. He just tempted fate. Bring on the triple bagels.

Q. You have a tough match ahead of you, but possibly Roger the round after that. Any lingering effects from Australia? Do you think about that match, or do you take anything positive out of it?

ANDY RODDICK: Positive out of it, no. Yeah, it's something positive: it's not going to get worse (laughter).

RagingLamb
07-04-2007, 08:19 PM
other than a consistent serve, Roddick hasn't really improved anything, and that's not enough to beat Federer.

The Freak
07-04-2007, 08:20 PM
I would be amazed if Andy "pusher" Roddick won a set on Fed. Gasquet will challenge him tomorrow.

maria_marie
07-04-2007, 08:24 PM
13:1 I think that says it all :rolleyes: I don't believe there's a chance for Roddick he has too many weaknesses in his game which wii get exploited by Fed. Plus, Roddick tends to make very often some stupid approaches to the net where he's just asking for trouble. On the other hand, he's not that solid from the baseline. My prediction is 3 sets, one tiebreak, and one break in each of the other sets

stebs
07-04-2007, 08:51 PM
He has a chance and a bigger one than almost anyone else in the draw but still it is hard to see him winning three sets when Roddick has only won 2 sets in all 5 of their previous five set matches put together.

OnyxRose
07-04-2007, 09:00 PM
Unless the moon and the stars align just perfectly, no.

Kuhne
07-04-2007, 09:03 PM
Impossible to answer really, Roddick is playing great, he is incredibly dangerous on grass when he is playing well, this reminds me of the australian open when he was not only playing well but coming off a victory over roger (exibition match) and having a match point over him in Shangai.. that was Roddick's moment to shine and we all know how that turned out.

As for Roger, how do we know how well he is playing? he has been on cruise control, basicaly sleeping thru all his matches, he only had to wake up against Safin in the third set in which Safin played a level of tennis that would have owned anyone and federer steped it up and played a ridiculously great set and beat him.

Difficult to say.... but I think Fed is just gona win wimbledon without droping a set

robinhood
07-04-2007, 09:12 PM
Based on their previous meetings, NO CHANCE.

Every time the two are about to play, this subject always comes up:
IF RODDICK HAS A GREAT SERVING DAY, THEN MAYBE.
What is his great serving day against Fed? 20 aces?? Not being broken???

Given how well Fed returns anyone's serve, there doesn't seem like it's ever going to happen.
No easy service games for Roddick = NO CHANCE against Fed

Blue Heart24
07-04-2007, 09:29 PM
No.

LLeytonRules
07-04-2007, 09:57 PM
Roger has a match with Ferrero and Roddick with Gasquet.Roger can be rusty who knows.I am sure that Roger wants to win this wimbledon as much as any other since he can make some history and tie Borg.Roger is a natural on grass and u better bring your best to beat him.

wipeout
07-04-2007, 10:05 PM
If Roddick can hit the kind of form again he did before that rain delay in the final a few years back, then he's certainly got a shot. We all know big servers holding on to the tiebreaks are a danger for Federer anyway.

Or Levy
07-04-2007, 10:06 PM
I can't see how he's going to even win a set off him.

I mean, before AO, I was worried, I only began following Roger in the USO, for pete's sake, and I heard all those things about how Andy's game has improved, etc, etc. I haven't really followed either of those guys very much.

Now I know better, and I agree with those who think Andy just isn't THAT impressive as a player, if you take the serve away. And Roger takes it away.

I would be more worried if this was their next match, but whatever rust Roger has, plenty of time to work it off against a guy he also love beating, Ferrero (whom he played a lot recently) and it would him plenty of time to get the forehand firing, the backhand clicking, the volleys sharp, and the serve in place.

Roger in three, no chance for Andy.

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-04-2007, 10:14 PM
He's only playing great in the slams now. He's not willing to give it his all in every tournament he plays and why should he? From what I've seen Federer is playing as well as he ever had while Roddick still needs to find his forehand. If they do meet in the SF's I hope it's a close match but I don't think it will be, sadly.

Well that might be true.

However with Federer not playing for a while and not really playing any good/decent players yet he might be more rusty than normal.

If roddick has his serve and forehand, he could hold his serve and take his chances in the tiebreaks. Then it comes down to who is more clutch.

Of course I wouldn't bet on Roddick. I give him a 5% chance of winning.

Naranoc
07-04-2007, 10:15 PM
Only with the divine intervention of BYE.

Otherwise, Federer will cruise through with a tight set or two, and maybe one lost if Roddick is at the top of his game.

RickDaStick
07-04-2007, 10:18 PM
Fed in 4. Thats if Dicky plays the match of his life. Rogelio isnt too kind to pushers like Roddick.

Marek.
07-04-2007, 10:37 PM
Well that might be true.

However with Federer not playing for a while and not really playing any good/decent players yet he might be more rusty than normal.

If roddick has his serve and forehand, he could hold his serve and take his chances in the tiebreaks. Then it comes down to who is more clutch.

Of course I wouldn't bet on Roddick. I give him a 5% chance of winning.

Ferrero's been playing great and should give Federer a tough match if he continues to play aggressively. That would shake off any rust that Federer might have.

Roddick will definately have his serve but that doesn't seem to faze Federer. If his forehand is on he could keep the match close but if it isn't, he'll probably lose in straights. He's going to have to take chances with his forehand and really go for it. If he just hits that shitty looper over and over, Federer will eat it up.

I guess for now we just wait and see if they can get through their matches and set up this meeting. Hopefully it's a close one.

kobulingam
07-04-2007, 10:38 PM
Change the question to: "How many times can Roddick break Federer?"

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-04-2007, 10:43 PM
Ferrero's been playing great and should give Federer a tough match if he continues to play aggressively. That would shake off any rust that Federer might have.

Roddick will definately have his serve but that doesn't seem to faze Federer. If his forehand is on he could keep the match close but if it isn't, he'll probably lose in straights. He's going to have to take chances with his forehand and really go for it. If he just hits that shitty looper over and over, Federer will eat it up.

I guess for now we just wait and see if they can get through their matches and set up this meeting. Hopefully it's a close one.

Roddick doesn't have the speed or endurance to play defensively against Federer. Beating him with pure offense means Roddick needs to be on and play the important points the best.

I just hope it doesnt end up as the AO semi.

Change the question to: "How many times can Roddick break Federer?"

He doesnt need to break him to win. He is the new tie break king so that should help.

Dina
07-04-2007, 10:58 PM
The answer is no, especially as he's playing alot worse now than at The US Open last year, I expect another ass whipping with hims struggling on his serve pretty much every game. I would gladly like to be proven wrong

t0x
07-04-2007, 11:08 PM
If Roddick has an exceptional serving day (and I'm talking 80% fast, first serves on the line or something) he could, with a little luck, edge it 76 76 76 or something.

However the reality of it is, if Roddick doesn't hit the line on his first serve, it's coming back. It doesn't matter how fast it was, Roger's too good a returner. And once the balls in play, Roddick is essentially screwed lol.

kobulingam
07-04-2007, 11:24 PM
Roddick doesn't have the speed or endurance to play defensively against Federer. Beating him with pure offense means Roddick needs to be on and play the important points the best.

I just hope it doesnt end up as the AO semi.



He doesnt need to break him to win. He is the new tie break king so that should help.


Roger will break him at least once a set, so Roddick better break Federer. I think Roger averages something like 1.5 breaks of Roddick's serve per set - so usually 1 or 2 breaks.

Marek.
07-04-2007, 11:28 PM
He doesnt need to break him to win. He is the new tie break king so that should help.

Roddick has been impressive in tie breaks this year but I don't think that's going to matter much against Fed. He's 1-8 in tie breaks against him and that affects the confidence.

NYCtennisfan
07-04-2007, 11:35 PM
Interesting stat:

Of of the 14 times they have played, Federer has broken Roddick at least twice in every match except for one which was played in Shanghai last Fall.

Out of the 14 times they have played, Roddick has managed to win 80% of the points on his FIRST serve only once, again in Shanghai.

sykotique
07-04-2007, 11:49 PM
Interesting stat:

Of of the 14 times they have played, Federer has broken Roddick at least twice in every match except for one which was played in Shanghai last Fall.

Out of the 14 times they have played, Roddick has managed to win 80% of the points on his FIRST serve only once, again in Shanghai.

The good news? Roddick can look at his Shanghai performance and draw confidence from it.

The bad news? In a best of 5 set match, he knows he'll probably never get that close again.

NYCtennisfan
07-04-2007, 11:54 PM
The good news? Roddick can look at his Shanghai performance and draw confidence from it.

The bad news? In a best of 5 set match, he knows he'll probably never get that close again.

The longer the match goes on, the better Federer reads his serve. Assuming they play, Roddick would have to serve 70%+, hit the lines, and hope Federer has a bad day making silly errors.

megadeth
07-04-2007, 11:56 PM
Last year Federer was unbeatable.

He has already lost to guys not named Nadal.

typical rafatard :rolleyes:

canas and volandri were just a fluke. champions (even dominators) are excused to have those rare "brain farts" at times...

megadeth
07-04-2007, 11:58 PM
If he plays his game (with good serving) and is clutch he can win.
Federer is worse than last year while Roddick is better.

roddick is better this year than last? check your stats dude... have you been following tennis at all this '07? :rolleyes:

megadeth
07-05-2007, 12:00 AM
i don't see andy changing his game or strategy so far in this tourney... he still loves to run around a backhand and smack that forehand in the middle of the court for pete's sake! (andy, go ask courier to teach you how to hit and where to hit an off forehand!)

if rodDUCK doesn't change his gameplan on roger, he's screwed

Bibberz
07-05-2007, 12:22 AM
Roddick has been impressive in tie breaks this year but I don't think that's going to matter much against Fed. He's 1-8 in tie breaks against him and that affects the confidence.

1-8?! That is terrible. If Roddick can't take a breaker or two, he won't win. Maybe he can have Connors heckle Rogelio from the stands. That might work, but I don't think Jimbo's up to it--he looks so reserved, what with those glasses and all.

Auscon
07-05-2007, 12:27 AM
If Federer plays anywhere near his best, no

If he's off and Andy is on top of his game, sure he has a chance