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Why doesn't Nadal play against Youzhny on Wednesday?

KrisJB
07-04-2007, 12:26 PM
It was obvious that today final set against Soderling wouldn't last long, so why organisers didn't decide to put Nadal's match into schedule? Why is there no match of Bjorkman vs. Berdych or Davydenko vs. Baghdatis? It is a very poor strategy as weather forecast for Wednesday was good and Saturday is supposed to be a gloomy day with heavy rains.

Kolya
07-04-2007, 12:28 PM
I was thinking the same.

The reason is because Wimbledon organisers are crap and have no idea how to run this event especially with all these rain delays.

nanoman
07-04-2007, 12:30 PM
Funny isn't it ? The weather is good for once, but the organizers decided to freeze all the 4th matches from the bottom half.
The players are left playing with their thumbs or yawning(in Kolya's case).

Johnny Groove
07-04-2007, 12:34 PM
why didnt they play on Sunday also? Stupidity, in both cases

SeagullUK
07-04-2007, 12:36 PM
Forecast today was not good at all...and I'm sure Nadal is happy to finally get some rest and not have to hang around waiting for the next match.
Forecast for Thursday and Friday is good so why worry about Saturday??

adee-gee
07-04-2007, 12:38 PM
It was obvious that today final set against Soderling wouldn't last long, so why organisers didn't decide to put Nadal's match into schedule? Why is there no match of Bjorkman vs. Berdych or Davydenko vs. Baghdatis? It is a very poor strategy as weather forecast for Wednesday was good and Saturday is supposed to be a gloomy day with heavy rains.

Why was it obvious it wouldn't last long against Soderling? :confused:

It could've been 28-26 for all we know :shrug:

mallorn
07-04-2007, 12:41 PM
Here's what the tournament referee said on this:
Jarrett said contingency plans such as making players play two matches in a day is not desirable. “There is a natural elation when a player wins and they need to come down to build up for the next match,” he said.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article2022988.ece

jtipson
07-04-2007, 12:42 PM
They don't like to require players to play more than one singles match in a day, and look ahead to give players in the same part of the draw a similar amount of rest. That's why there's no bottom half fourth round matches today.

Assuming Gasquet/Tsonga finishes today, I would think they will play top half quarters and bottom half fourth rounds tomorrow.

CyBorg
07-04-2007, 12:45 PM
So... we're behind schedule and we barely have any matches today? What will they do if they finish the singles at 6?

Look like idiots?

smitty8
07-04-2007, 12:47 PM
Why is there no match of Bjorkman vs. Berdych or Davydenko vs. Baghdatis?

I was wondering the same thing about these two matches, they could easily have stuck them in the schedule today and got them out of the way. :confused:

CyBorg
07-04-2007, 12:47 PM
Bah, I take that back. We might be finished at 3 or 4 today with the way Gasquet-Tsonga is going.

Coo-coo, Wimbledon organizers.

Coo-coo.

scarecrows
07-04-2007, 12:49 PM
Why was it obvious it wouldn't last long against Soderling? :confused:

It could've been 28-26 for all we know :shrug:

they could have scheduled it and then postpone for tomorrow if it had been a long match

enjoy the doubles, mixed doubles and juniors today people :wavey:

CyBorg
07-04-2007, 12:50 PM
tenjoy the doubles, mixed doubles and juniors today people :wavey:

I'd rather stick needles in my eyes.

adee-gee
07-04-2007, 12:51 PM
they could have scheduled it and then postpone for tomorrow if it had been a long match

enjoy the doubles, mixed doubles and juniors today people :wavey:

And what about Djokovic/Kiefer seeing as they knew they'd have to play minimum of 2 sets today?

scarecrows
07-04-2007, 12:53 PM
same thing

players will have a busy schedule anyway

KrisJB
07-04-2007, 12:54 PM
But Bjorkman vs. Berdych and Davydenko vs. Baghdatis should absolutely be played today to save time for organisers.

JustJames
07-04-2007, 12:56 PM
Because that would go against the Wimbledon schedulers pledge upon acceptance into the clan to make no sense at all when it comes to scheduling in times of rain...

CyBorg
07-04-2007, 12:56 PM
But Bjorkman vs. Berdych and Davydenko vs. Baghdatis should absolutely be played today to save time for organisers.

Yeah - it makes NO sense. None. Not a smidgeon.

Beforehand
07-04-2007, 01:00 PM
Bah. Makes sense to me, but if people HAVE to complain about something, fine.

Shabazza
07-04-2007, 01:05 PM
Yeah - it makes NO sense. None. Not a smidgeon.
Yes it makes sense, because players from the same half need to have the same chances and aren't allowed a significant advantage due to scheduling.
Scheduling Berdych and Davydenko today would be a great disadvantage for the other players in the bottom half, who would have to play tomorrow with no off days for the rest of the week.
It's reasonable to let them play on the same day.

jtipson
07-04-2007, 01:07 PM
But Bjorkman vs. Berdych and Davydenko vs. Baghdatis should absolutely be played today to save time for organisers.

But then the winners of those matches would have more rest before the quarterfinals than Nadal/Youzhny and Hewitt/Djokovic would, which is something the organisers to try avoid.

For the same reason, Federer/Ferrero isn't scheduled today - because the winner would have more time before the semi-final than their potential opponents, who are still playing 4th round today.

Scotso
07-04-2007, 01:10 PM
Yes it makes sense, because players from the same half need to have the same chances and aren't allowed a significant advantage due to scheduling.
Scheduling Berdych and Davydenko today would be a great disadvantage for the other players in the bottom half, who would have to play tomorrow with no off days for the rest of the week.
It's reasonable to let them play on the same day.

Agreed. This decision is one that actually makes sense and is fair for the players.

nobama
07-04-2007, 01:10 PM
And it's raining again. :lol:

I posted this in another thread. Apparently there is a "waiting list" and some matches could be scheduled for later in the day if matches finish quicker than expected.

www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/articles/2007-07-04/200707041183540370046.html

1.10 pm: Krajicek – Bartoli out on court as well. Kim asks whether Federer-Ferrero will play today – possible. We won’t know who will be added in until later, but as soon as I know, I’ll let you know. Ooh, Venus wins the (rest of) the opening game.

12.56 pm: Don’t forget, there are a number of matches on a waiting list should we get through a number of ties early, so don’t panic when you look at the schedule. Rafa won’t have to play a second time, though.

And ...

11.15 am: Daniel is asking about when Amelie Mauresmo started. I remember her suddenly bursting onto the scene at the 1999 Australian Open, where she lost in the final to Martina Hingis after coming out of nowhere to beat Lindsay Davenport. She’s been top 10 or thereabouts since then.

Will Roger be too rusty? asks Vincent from France. Mais non, mon ami ! He’ll have been practising and he may well be up tonight if we can get through a few matches today. And yes, the Frenchies are doing well, which I’m pleased about too, if only to listen to “Ritchie” Gasquet’s southern accent in press conferences.

CyBorg
07-04-2007, 01:12 PM
Yes it makes sense, because players from the same half need to have the same chances and aren't allowed a significant advantage due to scheduling.
Scheduling Berdych and Davydenko today would be a great disadvantage for the other players in the bottom half, who would have to play tomorrow with no off days for the rest of the week.
It's reasonable to let them play on the same day.

Stop making sense! I need to vent! :)

nobama
07-04-2007, 01:13 PM
But then the winners of those matches would have more rest before the quarterfinals than Nadal/Youzhny and Hewitt/Djokovic would, which is something the organisers to try avoid.

For the same reason, Federer/Ferrero isn't scheduled today - because the winner would have more time before the semi-final than their potential opponents, who are still playing 4th round today.
Well, on the Wimbledon website they say it's possible Federer/Fererro might play today. This was posted on their blog earlier today:

Lots of you are still worried about the lack of singles matches scheduled today – there are plenty on a “waiting list” to be added in, so fret not.

Beforehand
07-04-2007, 01:14 PM
Federer today?!?!

RAIN, GO NOW.

jtipson
07-04-2007, 01:17 PM
Well, on the Wimbledon website they say it's possible Federer/Fererro might play today. This was posted on their blog earlier today:


Interesting. It was my assumption that they wouldn't be put on today....I'd love to hear the justification for it if it does go ahead.

anon57
07-04-2007, 01:21 PM
I actually think the scheduling fot today was pretty fair. It sucks that we might be finished early although it's raining once again. But with this schedule the organisers are at least trying to make sure that each half are in the same round.

the answer
07-04-2007, 01:21 PM
So, if they somehow manage to finish all the matches on the main courts before 7 pm , we will just have to wait till tomorrow ??

And fuck those gay fitness ads I'm getting sick and tired of seeing shirtless man on screen the administrators should do something about it

Clara Bow
07-04-2007, 01:22 PM
I don't think it would be right if they had some folks from the top half through to the semis while the bottom half needs to play all of their Ro16. It is a tricky situation.

And as for them not scheduling Nadal again today- I frankly think Djokovic was the bigger issue. When play ended yesterday they were tied a set apiece. It could have gone on for three long sets more.

If they had put the bottom half third round matches on first Monday and Tuesday- we wouldn't be in this mess.

the answer
07-04-2007, 01:28 PM
And it's raining again. :lol:

I posted this in another thread. Apparently there is a "waiting list" and some matches could be scheduled for later in the day if matches finish quicker than expected.

www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/articles/2007-07-04/200707041183540370046.html

1.10 pm: Krajicek – Bartoli out on court as well. Kim asks whether Federer-Ferrero will play today – possible. We won’t know who will be added in until later, but as soon as I know, I’ll let you know. Ooh, Venus wins the (rest of) the opening game.

12.56 pm: Don’t forget, there are a number of matches on a waiting list should we get through a number of ties early, so don’t panic when you look at the schedule. Rafa won’t have to play a second time, though.

And ...

11.15 am: Daniel is asking about when Amelie Mauresmo started. I remember her suddenly bursting onto the scene at the 1999 Australian Open, where she lost in the final to Martina Hingis after coming out of nowhere to beat Lindsay Davenport. She’s been top 10 or thereabouts since then.

Will Roger be too rusty? asks Vincent from France. Mais non, mon ami ! He’ll have been practising and he may well be up tonight if we can get through a few matches today. And yes, the Frenchies are doing well, which I’m pleased about too, if only to listen to “Ritchie” Gasquet’s southern accent in press conferences.

Thanks Mirkaland, i didn't see your post.