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Why all this bashing?

PamposCypriot
07-04-2007, 09:06 AM
I mean, come on, rafahaters? fedhaters? safinhaters? and so on... Why cant you just enjoy tennis? Im watching tennis since i remember(to be true when i saw for my first time women tennis in wimbledon and noticed the short skirts :) ) and i like watching the tennis games whoever the opponents are. Of course i have my fave tennis players but i am not like "e.g Fuck you potatohead ljubicic". I see no logic having a "player tennis camp" and act like you are on war with the opposite "camps"! Whos with me? :D

Tennis is to enjoy for!

Action Jackson
07-04-2007, 09:18 AM
Not a bad post, except for the Sharapova pic.

MTF is about 96.7 percent fanboys/girls and it could stand for Mens Tennis Fanboys/Girls. WTA world is worse and that is scary.

VolandriFan
07-04-2007, 09:19 AM
Yes, you are right, all of these sexy men running around in white shorts, what more could anyone want? :inlove:

But seriously, disliking certain players is part of the spirit of the game. You don't choose to like or dislike a player, it just happens, otherwise you are not being true to yourself. It's all in the way people decide to portray those feelings, and some people are more vocal than others. There's nothing sweeter than seeing your favourite player pummel your most hated player, is there? ;)

Action Jackson
07-04-2007, 09:21 AM
Yes, you are right, all of these sexy men running around in white shorts, what more could anyone want? :inlove:

But seriously, disliking certain players is part of the spirit of the game. You don't choose to like or dislike a player, it just happens, otherwise you are not being true to yourself. It's all in the way people decide to portray those feelings, and some people are more vocal than others. There's nothing sweeter than seeing your favourite player pummel your most hated player, is there? ;)

You trying to fool people, that you actually watch the tennis?

VolandriFan
07-04-2007, 09:24 AM
You trying to fool people, that you actually watch the tennis?

I don't have to prove anything to anyone. If people think like that, they're probably not worth my time anyway.

The biggest mistake you can make is to underestimate someone. There's no real way to know how intelligent someone is without actually being them.

Jimnik
07-04-2007, 09:30 AM
Nice thread. But the picture of Sharapova on clay is kind of random.

thesupreme
07-04-2007, 09:35 AM
I think this Fedtard / Rafatard thing is incredibly *childish*, not fun at all. I shudder to think what the outside world would consider the average IQ or age level of this board sometimes....

By the way, great thread...telling what needs to be told

Sofonda Cox
07-04-2007, 09:52 AM
http://www.repubblica.it/2005/e/sezioni/sport/tennis/donnesec/lapr_6203656_56100.jpg

why did you ruin a perfectly good post with that? :confused:

VolandriFan
07-04-2007, 10:01 AM
why did you ruin a perfectly good post with that? :confused:

This is much better, no?
http://bp3.blogger.com/_o_85rYxlePA/Rnsr_udMdmI/AAAAAAAACfY/JRYL6XweI8o/s1600/Simo1.jpg

Sofonda Cox
07-04-2007, 10:02 AM
This is much better, no?
http://bp3.blogger.com/_o_85rYxlePA/Rnsr_udMdmI/AAAAAAAACfY/JRYL6XweI8o/s1600/Simo1.jpg

:hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

Apemant
07-04-2007, 10:03 AM
Shriekapova would be fine if she had a 'mute' button somewhere.

Other than that, she has nice proportions for a woman that tall, and a cute face.

LeChuck
07-04-2007, 10:06 AM
An excellent post, although you undid your good work slightily by posting a picture of Sharapova who is vastly overrated in the looks department.
I agree that the Fedtard V Rafatard war is incredibly tedious. Not all, but a proportion of the fans on both sides of the camp are glory supporters anyway, that only started supporting either player after they began to win big titles on a regular basis.

Nathaliia
07-04-2007, 10:08 AM
Why all this bashing of Sharapova? :o

VolandriFan
07-04-2007, 10:09 AM
An excellent post, although you undid your good work slightily by posting a picture of Sharapova who is vastly overrated in the looks department.

Agreed. If she were anything but a tennis player, she'd get no attention at all.

Action Jackson
07-04-2007, 10:17 AM
Why all this bashing of Sharapova? :o

Do you really want me to go into it.

Her antics at RG against Schynder, well the 3 000 000 decibels when it comes to the fake grunting, the plastic and very manufactured personality and the brainless ball bashing, these will do for now.

PamposCypriot
07-04-2007, 10:18 AM
Ok, deleted Sharapova :D Stick to the basics :D

Action Jackson
07-04-2007, 10:19 AM
I don't have to prove anything to anyone. If people think like that, they're probably not worth my time anyway.

The biggest mistake you can make is to underestimate someone. There's no real way to know how intelligent someone is without actually being them.

I wouldn't know about underestimating people. I treat people they deserve to be treated.

VolandriFan
07-04-2007, 10:22 AM
I wouldn't know about underestimating people. I treat people they deserve to be treated.

No, you treat people how you think they deserve to be treated.

The Pro
07-04-2007, 10:29 AM
I wonder if a picture of Ana Ivanovic would have gone down better? :confused:

Action Jackson
07-04-2007, 10:31 AM
No, you treat people how you think they deserve to be treated.

So, you want to have an argument about nothing, then be my guest. I will make this simple for you. I don't have to like a poster/person to have respect for them, this goes for players. I can't stand Hewitt but I have nothing but respect for what he has done as a player and that won't change.

Onto this subject, people here take too many things personally for a start. You criticise a player and back up the reasons for it. It's like you shot their mother, drank her blood and boiled up her remains and ate them that evening.

Hypersensitive fans are among all fanbases and it's hard to give these people anything but contempt at times.

VolandriFan
07-04-2007, 10:32 AM
I wonder if a picture of Ana Ivanovic would have gone down better? :confused:

Or Marion Bartoli perhaps? :lick:

LeChuck
07-04-2007, 10:38 AM
Onto this subject, people here take too many things personally for a start. You criticise a player and back up the reasons for it. It's like you shot their mother, drank her blood and boiled up her remains and ate them that evening.

Hypersensitive fans are among all fanbases and it's hard to give these people anything but contempt at times.

:lol: I completely agree. Also a lot of people seem to think that you can't be classed as a true fan of a particular player, unless you think that the sun shines out of their rear end 24 hours a day and refrain from ever criticising them. As you have said though, WTA World is generally a lot worse than this board on this front, with a proportion of the fans of the Williams sisters over there deserving an honourable mention.

VolandriFan
07-04-2007, 10:40 AM
So, you want to have an argument about nothing, then be my guest. I will make this simple for you. I don't have to like a poster/person to have respect for them, this goes for players. I can't stand Hewitt but I have nothing but respect for what he has done as a player and that won't change.

Onto this subject, people here take too many things personally for a start. You criticise a player and back up the reasons for it. It's like you shot their mother, drank her blood and boiled up her remains and ate them that evening.

Hypersensitive fans are among all fanbases and it's hard to give these people anything but contempt at times.

Well you need to know that everyone is different. Yes, some people are hypersensitive when it comes to certain issues, so people should respect that and learn to expect defensive responses if they say something which could be damaging. What's water off your back could actually hurt somebody else, so just think about that before you come back with your retorts. I'm not saying that anyone should change the way they are for the sake of message board, I'm just saying that you can't shut someone down and expect them to just sit back and take it.

And I think everyone has a degree of respect for all of the players, it would just be plain stupid not to.

Action Jackson
07-04-2007, 10:49 AM
Well you need to know that everyone is different. Yes, some people are hypersensitive when it comes to certain issues, so people should respect that and learn to expect defensive responses if they say something which could be damaging. What's water off your back could actually hurt somebody else, so just think about that before you come back with your retorts. I'm not saying that anyone should change the way they are for the sake of message board, I'm just saying that you can't shut someone down and expect them to just sit back and take it.

And I think everyone has a degree of respect for all of the players, it would just be plain stupid not to.

Honestly, I don't have time for hypersensitive fanboys/girls. I don't put up with it in my daily life and I am not going to go on the net.

Come to think of it most of the people/posters that I appreciate are ones that can back up their particular point of view, especially if it relates to the relative playing strengths and weaknesses, whether I agree with that or not isn' t important and hypsersensitive ones can't do that for the most part and I have already highlighted that.

VolandriFan
07-04-2007, 11:10 AM
Honestly, I don't have time for hypersensitive fanboys/girls. I don't put up with it in my daily life and I am not going to go on the net.

Come to think of it most of the people/posters that I appreciate are ones that can back up their particular point of view, especially if it relates to the relative playing strengths and weaknesses, whether I agree with that or not isn' t important and hypsersensitive ones can't do that for the most part and I have already highlighted that.

Fair enough. I can offer valid and unbiased opinions on the games of players, so I assume your post isn't an attack on me. Of course I get it wrong sometimes, and I can think of one particular occassion where I made a stupid comment about a player I know little about, but everyone makes mistakes.

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
07-04-2007, 11:14 AM
Fair enough. I can offer valid and unbiased opinions on the games of players, so I assume your post isn't an attack on me. Of course I get it wrong sometimes, and I can think of one particular occassion where I made a stupid comment about a player I know little about, but everyone makes mistakes.


VolandriFan :hug: you can't compete against GWH ;) he is too strong mentally and he knows a lot about tennis... you gotta love him :cool:

Action Jackson
07-04-2007, 11:36 AM
Fair enough. I can offer valid and unbiased opinions on the games of players, so I assume your post isn't an attack on me. Of course I get it wrong sometimes, and I can think of one particular occassion where I made a stupid comment about a player I know little about, but everyone makes mistakes.

You can take however you want to take it, but considering I have already called you a bandwagon jumper and someone who only likes tennis for the looks and bodies more so than the tennis itself, it's hard for me to take you seriously. But taking this place seriously, isn't really productive.

Mistaflava
07-04-2007, 11:36 AM
:haha:

laure xxx
07-04-2007, 11:38 AM
You can take however you want to take it, but considering I have already called you a bandwagon jumper and someone who only likes tennis for the looks and bodies more so than the tennis itself, it's hard for me to take you seriously. But taking this place seriously, isn't really productive.

Why don't you leave then if you're so superior and can see through anyone? Admit it, you're hooked to the tards, teeny boppers and the fangirls/boys. :wavey:

Action Jackson
07-04-2007, 11:41 AM
Why don't you leave then if you're so superior and can see through anyone? Admit it, you're hooked to the tards, teeny boppers and the fangirls/boys. :wavey:

Read the last sentence of my previous post, then you might get it. :p

If you want me to spell it out for you. Cause I don't take this place too seriously, that is why I am here, great timewasting tool, just like Nadal is.

Sunset of Age
07-04-2007, 11:44 AM
Also a lot of people seem to think that you can't be classed as a true fan of a particular player, unless you think that the sun shines out of their rear end 24 hours a day and refrain from ever criticising them.

So true, alas.
A true fan should be able to deliver fair and upbuilding critique on his/her fav when it's necessary. To that player's own benefit.

VolandriFan
07-04-2007, 11:47 AM
You can take however you want to take it, but considering I have already called you a bandwagon jumper and someone who only likes tennis for the looks and bodies more so than the tennis itself, it's hard for me to take you seriously.

Then you know nothing :)

Why would I play tennis myself if I liked tennis for the looks and bodies? :rolleyes:

And the whole bandwagon concept is bullshit. Players win matches, people start noticing them. If you think me saying that I've always seen Luczak as a top 100 quality player means that I've jumped onto his bandwagon, then that's your problem.

PS- You don't have to take my post seriously if you don't want to. :wavey:

The Pro
07-04-2007, 11:48 AM
Or Marion Bartoli perhaps? :lick:

Whatever floats your boat....:eek:

martine2
07-04-2007, 11:51 AM
Honestly, I don't have time for hypersensitive fanboys/girls. I don't put up with it in my daily life and I am not going to go on the net. .

I agree. But it could be that you judge some people wrongly and label them a name they don't deserve....

Come to think of it most of the people/posters that I appreciate are ones that can back up their particular point of view, especially if it relates to the relative playing strengths and weaknesses, whether I agree with that or not isn' t important and hypsersensitive ones can't do that for the most part and I have already highlighted that.

Agree too, but this can't be learned in a month or a year and some people don't have your experience, but may be wanting to learn more by watching and reading a lot (may imply asking questions sometimes too...). Not very fair to treat them like idiots then. Rome wasn't built in a day....

VolandriFan
07-04-2007, 12:10 PM
Whatever floats your boat....:eek:
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w195/AnyasRextasy/f_18.jpg
:drool:

Action Jackson
07-04-2007, 12:15 PM
I agree. But it could be that you judge some people wrongly and label them a name they don't deserve....

Usually it's very clear to tell who is hypersensitive and who can discuss their fave players and their flaws without feeling it's personal.

Agree too, but this can't be learned in a month or a year and some people don't have your experience, but may be wanting to learn more by watching and reading a lot (may imply asking questions sometimes too...). Not very fair to treat them like idiots then. Rome wasn't built in a day....

Well I had to learn about the game gradually through lots of different sources and there are ways to ask questions and not come across as a fool.

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
07-04-2007, 12:42 PM
.... Rome wasn't built in a day....

true... as a fan it took me time from oversensitive to hypersensitive only... imagine! of course still working on it :angel: and concerning the personal attacks as a poster honest, I couldn't care less *unbreakable ego* :bigwave:

The Pro
07-04-2007, 12:49 PM
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w195/AnyasRextasy/f_18.jpg
:drool:

:lol:

I can see what you mean!

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-04-2007, 01:00 PM
Way too many pansies on this board.

GWH knows so much about tennis that he thinks Nadal sucks on clay. 3 RG already Hitler. Every year my statement becomes more correct.

The_Nadal_effect
07-04-2007, 07:02 PM
What's wrong with bashing?

homogenius
07-04-2007, 07:18 PM
You can take however you want to take it, but considering I have already called you a bandwagon jumper and someone who only likes tennis for the looks and bodies more so than the tennis itself, it's hard for me to take you seriously. But taking this place seriously, isn't really productive.

Taking yourself seriously isn't really productive either, EgoKing.

Beforehand
07-04-2007, 07:25 PM
Dear GWH,

You are utterly and unbelievably deplorable/completely and absolutely wonderful.

Sincerely,
Beforehand

:worship: :fiery:

Metis
07-04-2007, 08:10 PM
I mean, come on, rafahaters? fedhaters? safinhaters? and so on... Why cant you just enjoy tennis? Im watching tennis since i remember(to be true when i saw for my first time women tennis in wimbledon and noticed the short skirts :) ) and i like watching the tennis games whoever the opponents are. Of course i have my fave tennis players but i am not like "e.g Fuck you potatohead ljubicic". I see no logic having a "player tennis camp" and act like you are on war with the opposite "camps"! Whos with me? :D

Tennis is to enjoy for!

Obviously you belong to a minority of MTF posters who have remained normal tennis fans in spite of being here for some time now. Low posting rates must be a good indication of healthy attitude (hey, don't look at my post number! :lol: ). I think that the -tard wars and general insanity in this forum can affect even the most reasonable and mentally strong MTF members and after a certain point you get frustrated and start disliking players due to the ridiculous behavior of some of their fans. Once you go down that road you start getting involved in meaningless debates wasting your time (because you are already addicted to MTF).

I was recently watching a tennis match with some normal fans, people I hadn't seen for a year or so (to the best of my knowledge they have no idea about MTF and I did them the favor of not mentioning anything about it :lol: ) and I found the experience very enjoyable although we supported different players. I was able to appreciate the match and the opponent of the player I was rooting for because there were no feelings of hatred and stupid arguments (it's only tennis after all). It was such a relief! On the other hand I realized how much I had learned about tennis in the past year by visiting this forum. It felt good to be the one to have all the answers :lol:.

Anyway, nowadays, every time MTF stops being fun and starts getting on my nerves I get off the computer and do something else. That might be the cure to the MTF insanity (and not RFK's logic :p).

Rumour
07-04-2007, 08:33 PM
Cause I don't take this place too seriously, that is why I am here, great timewasting tool, just like Nadal is.
:haha:

scarecrows
07-04-2007, 08:38 PM
Taking yourself seriously isn't really productive either, EgoKing.

you gotta love all this aliases that all of a sudden come with these gems

NYCtennisfan
07-04-2007, 08:41 PM
you gotta love all this aliases that all of a sudden come with these gems

Each with a different country's flag :D

The Freak
07-04-2007, 08:48 PM
There are haters everywhere regarding sports, you just gotta live with it.

RagingLamb
07-04-2007, 09:07 PM
it's impossible for people to like player A without disliking player B, hence bashing.

Naranoc
07-04-2007, 09:13 PM
Success breeds hatred :woohoo:

It's what makes MTF what it is :D. There would be no fun if it was all '60s style :hug: and :kiss:. See the Youzhny def. Nadal in Dubai thread for the classic entertainment this place provides.

Sofonda Cox
07-04-2007, 09:15 PM
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w195/AnyasRextasy/f_18.jpg
:drool:

i really fancy a slice of cake now :lick:

homogenius
07-05-2007, 05:54 AM
you gotta love all this aliases that all of a sudden come with these gems

I have only one account.

Bibberz
07-05-2007, 06:53 AM
I mean, come on, rafahaters? fedhaters? safinhaters? and so on... Why cant you just enjoy tennis? Im watching tennis since i remember(to be true when i saw for my first time women tennis in wimbledon and noticed the short skirts :) ) and i like watching the tennis games whoever the opponents are. Of course i have my fave tennis players but i am not like "e.g Fuck you potatohead ljubicic". I see no logic having a "player tennis camp" and act like you are on war with the opposite "camps"! Whos with me? :D

Tennis is to enjoy for!

Wait, wait, wait. Does anyone here hate Safin? The guy is already his own worst enemy. I don't always root for him, but he is entertaining in all respects.

RonE
07-05-2007, 07:01 AM
Success breeds hatred :woohoo:

It's what makes MTF what it is :D. There would be no fun if it was all '60s style :hug: and :kiss:. See the Youzhny def. Nadal in Dubai thread for the classic entertainment this place provides.

First of all it makes the world what it is, not just MTF.

Second of all the 60's were not all hugs and kisses as many would have you believe.

Third of all, any thread about a Nadal loss is always high quality classic entertainment guaranteed :worship:

The_Nadal_effect
07-05-2007, 07:38 AM
Again, another thread for kicks. Thanks, PC;)

I think a true tennis fan might enjoy a game of tennis between any players, it wouldn't even matter if the players are not in the top 600! Because if you are a fan of the game, you could have as much fun observing and critiquing children in your neighbourhood as you would enjoy ATP pros on TV. I am actually quite happy that we have at least a handful 'tennis-fans' on MTF among the tards who are prone to losing rationality with their player's win & loss.

Having said that, I do enjoy tardism...I think its hilarious :lol: because it turns every one into 10 year olds...and I am guilty of enjoying their lunacy.

THE BOX OFFICE REPORTS:
Think about it...The Oscar Hernandez thread which is a sleeper-hit on MTF grossed 600+ posts in more than four months. The Soderling-Rafa smash-hit did the same in two days. The Volandri-Roger post made 500+ in one night!
It might be sad...but Tardism sells.
Lunacy always does.

PamposCypriot
07-05-2007, 08:55 AM
As i said, i have my fave players but i like watching tennis in generally. Every player has something unique to offer... Come on, wouldnt you watch a Nadal game cause you are a fed fan? Come on Fedtards, i know deep inside you you kind like Nadal :D Same goes for the Rafatards about Federer :D And being a fan of a player you should also do some critisim on him on some occasions. Most of you in here things that their fave is perfect etc... Look me, maybe im the bigger critic of Baghdatis in here :D BAGGY STOP EATING KEBAB FOR GODS SAKE! YOU PLAY DAVYDENKO AFTER AN HOUR! YOU PIG!!!

And a little something for the forum :D

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3898/tardapq5.png

robt
07-05-2007, 09:57 AM
Hello, greetings from Australia,

I can understand why some fans dislike players, particularly
the WTA current baseliners, as the game today is too many
baseliners...too many two-handers...two many grunters (most unlady-like)...equals boring tennis. The best thing that can happen for the game is
for Justine and Roger, both conventional players, to keep on
winning. That'll encourage a new generation of players, including
serve-volliers. Justine's backhand is the prettiest stroke in tennis
today.

Methinks the umpires ought to clampdown on serial loud grunters, without
waiting for any complaints. It's blatant gamesmanship and becoming worse each
year.

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
07-05-2007, 10:25 AM
don't be so negative :cool:

"Runs fine moments" ... it's the anagram of "Mens Tennis Forum" ;)

The_Nadal_effect
07-06-2007, 08:03 AM
Methinks the umpires ought to clampdown on serial loud grunters, without
waiting for any complaints. It's blatant gamesmanship and becoming worse each
year.

That is not true at all. When you are returning a ball coming at you more than 120 mph, say that!

robt
07-06-2007, 01:27 PM
hello my friend,

but did you not see match-point of kuznetsova vs venus williams yesterday? Let's go to the
videotape NOW!!!! During the rally, kuznetsova grunted very loudly but then stopped on her last three strokes, while still
hitting the ball extremely hard. It's as if she did this deliberately as a direct
response to venus' grunting. Clearly this is gamesmanship (or gameswomanship).
Both competitors are as bad as eachother in this respect.

trixtah
07-06-2007, 01:30 PM
I don't have to prove anything to anyone. If people think like that, they're probably not worth my time anyway.

The biggest mistake you can make is to underestimate someone. There's no real way to know how intelligent someone is without actually being them.

Too bad you opened your mouth and removed all doubt.