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Just cancel Wimbeldon for this year

Andre'sNo1Fan
07-03-2007, 08:00 PM
Its getting ridiculous now with all the rain. The schedulers have stuffed up big style and players will have to play 2 matches a day or something. This tournament is stuck in the past, and has been shown up for what it really is - crap. The tournament is the most boring in the year (finally I agree with Davydenko), and it should just be cancelled for the year.

scarecrows
07-03-2007, 08:01 PM
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Action Jackson
07-03-2007, 08:02 PM
Great thread.

Jaap
07-03-2007, 08:02 PM
Its getting ridiculous now with all the rain. The schedulers have stuffed up big style and players will have to play 2 matches a day or something. This tournament is stuck in the past, and has been shown up for what it really is - crap. The tournament is the most boring in the year (finally I agree with Davydenko), and it should just be cancelled for the year.

Mug

GlennMirnyi
07-03-2007, 08:02 PM
Shock therapy isn't working.

Rogiman
07-03-2007, 08:02 PM
Another flash of brilliance by MTF's version of Albert Einstein.

Kuhne
07-03-2007, 08:03 PM
No :)

This is the one tournament that's bigger than the players themselves, French open is nothing without a Rafa nadal, Australian Open and US open are nothing without federer or sampras. Wimbledon is the one tournament regardless of players or not that makes or breaks stars. so if they have to dress white and stop playing because of the rain, so be it, they get to play tennis for a living, shut the fuck up go to your hotel room and wait for the rain to pass.

R.Federer
07-03-2007, 08:06 PM
Alternate title of thread: This is where players I don't like do well. I can pretend to blame the weather (although it is atrocious every year, no one will notice).

Marek.
07-03-2007, 08:06 PM
:bigcry::bigcry::bigcry:

pagalpagli5
07-03-2007, 08:07 PM
Yeah, I'm pissed as hell. Some 3rd round matches haven't even finished playing today (Tuesday), and they will have to resume on Wednesday! In the SECOND week of Wimbledon! That's such crap! All I'm saying is that they better not have Federer play his quarterfinals match on Wednesday until ALL the third and fourth round matches have been played!

And how are they going to do this? For instance, would Nadal have to play 3rd round on Wed, 4th round on Th, quarters on Fri, semis on Sat, and final on Sun, if he were to get that far? That's not fair on the player's body at all. God, Wimbledon officials are d*mn selfish!

JustJames
07-03-2007, 08:08 PM
:yawn:

Your originality is astounding.

victory1
07-03-2007, 08:11 PM
The king has spoken so it shall be done!!!:p

scarecrows
07-03-2007, 08:28 PM
Here is the Solution

WEDS
Nadal and Djokovic Finish Round Three
Roddick Finishes Round Four and Gasquet Plays Round Four

THURS
1 Nadal, Hewitt,Berdych and Davydenko all play their Round Four Matches(at same time one on each of four courts)
2 Then the Two remaining Womens Quarters are played (one on each court)
3 Federer and Roddick play their Quarter final (one on each court)

FRIDAY
Nadal and Hewitt(or Djokovic!) play their Quarter Final matches (One on each court) followed by 2 Womens Semis on Centre

SATURDAY
Federer plays Semi on Centre (followed by Womens Final)and Nadal on Court One

SUNDAY
Mens Final

No Problems !!!

wow, you predict 5 dry days at Wimbledon :worship:

guga2120
07-03-2007, 08:29 PM
Cancel it?? But the fact they did not play on Sunday is completly ridiculous, but Wimbledon is special, so it must be different.:rolleyes:

Andre'sNo1Fan
07-03-2007, 08:38 PM
wow, you predict 5 dry days at Wimbledon :worship:
The forecast for tomorrow is bad, although its supposed to be good after that.

rocketassist
07-03-2007, 08:39 PM
Wow, what a whiny little bitch. Bet no man will put up with her...:lol:

Chloe le Bopper
07-03-2007, 08:41 PM
Wimbledon is far and away the shittiest slam as a result of their crappy organizing around their crappy weather. Yet people continue to try to defend the tournament's honour by spewing such crap as:

1) "you just hate it because your favourite player doesn't do well there!" (and they need not know who your favourite player is, or how good their record there is in order to spew this uncreative drivel)

2) "the tournament is bigger than the players!" (as if somehow this excuses the utterly craptacular organization that we're treated to on an annual basis)

I hate this slam. It sucks. And no, not because it's on grass. Because it rains. Continually. And the people who run the tournament, even after all these years, still don't know how to properly accomodate for that. Build a fucking roof. Play on the middle Sunday. Because trying to ram down my throat that you're "special" when you clearly can hardly run a tournament doesn't quite cut it.

Chloe le Bopper
07-03-2007, 08:42 PM
wow, you predict 5 dry days at Wimbledon :worship:
Comical, eh? It'd be nice if that happened, of course. I, for one, would love to see an actual tournament be played. Not the desperately thrown together pile of crap that we're most likely going to suffer through. Well... you guys will suffer through. I've watched about one hour of coverage all week.

Action Jackson
07-03-2007, 08:43 PM
Comical, eh? It'd be nice if that happened, of course. I, for one, would love to see an actual tournament be played. Not the desperately thrown together pile of crap that we're most likely going to suffer through. Well... you guys will suffer through. I've watched about one hour of coverage all week.

Good to see you around here, and agreed with all of the above.

rocketassist
07-03-2007, 08:44 PM
Wimbledon is far and away the shittiest slam as a result of their crappy organizing around their crappy weather. Yet people continue to try to defend the tournament's honour by spewing such crap as:

1) "you just hate it because your favourite player doesn't do well there!" (and they need not know who your favourite player is, or how good their record there is in order to spew this uncreative drivel)

2) "the tournament is bigger than the players!" (as if somehow this excuses the utterly craptacular organization that we're treated to on an annual basis)

I hate this slam. It sucks. And no, not because it's on grass. Because it rains. Continually. And the people who run the tournament, even after all these years, still don't know how to properly accomodate for that. Build a fucking roof. Play on the middle Sunday. Because trying to ram down my throat that you're "special" when you clearly can hardly run a tournament doesn't quite cut it.

True. They're sitting around on their backsides till 2009 instead of getting the contract company in to start work asap. Court 1 could also do with a roof. RLA and Vodafone have rooves in Melbourne.

Chloe le Bopper
07-03-2007, 08:45 PM
Good to see you around here, and agreed with all of the above.
Nothing inspires an irritated rant from me like Wimbledon does.

I confess that I did used to hate the grass surface. I've come to accept that it's not so bad now that they've slowed it down ;)

Sjengster
07-03-2007, 08:47 PM
If weather like this becomes a more frequent trend in coming years (and admittedly this is an exceptionally bad year), a roof over one showcourt barely begins to solve the problems. Except giving a little more advantage to the big names, of course.

Action Jackson
07-03-2007, 08:48 PM
Nothing inspires an irritated rant from me like Wimbledon does.

I confess that I did used to hate the grass surface. I've come to accept that it's not so bad now that they've slowed it down ;)

This is true and I decided to start a poll about which GS had the worse organisation.

But it's all traditional and we are idiots cause we don't think this way about Wimbledon.

NYCtennisfan
07-03-2007, 08:48 PM
If weather like this becomes a more frequent trend in coming years (and admittedly this is an exceptionally bad year), a roof over one showcourt barely begins to solve the problems. Except giving a little more advantage to the big names, of course.

Really won't solve anything, but at least there will be tennis played which of couse impacts TV viewship, sponsorships, etc.

Sjengster
07-03-2007, 08:48 PM
Nothing inspires an irritated rant from me like Wimbledon does.

I confess that I did used to hate the grass surface. I've come to accept that it's not so bad now that they've slowed it down ;)

Ah, you would have loved BBC commentary on the final two years ago, I believe, when Andrew Castle proudly announced during the trophy ceremony that this was the "best-run tournament in the world." I recall joebuk, now sadly an ex-member of this board, suggested the words "Welcome to Hell" stencilled behind the baseline on Centre Court would be a more appropriate description. ;)

Raquel
07-03-2007, 08:51 PM
Tradition has nothing to do with this organisation this year. Middle Sunday does not have to be kept to. It's tournament director's call and he chose not to. People keep saying the traditions are crazy but tradition is not the problem it's the referee. He gets the final say on everything.

Shame about the weather, as the tennis has been really good in between.

Sjengster
07-03-2007, 08:51 PM
Really won't solve anything, but at least there will be tennis played which of couse impacts TV viewship, sponsorships, etc.

It would also be interesting to see an indoor grass court, never have before as far as I recall. Amazing to think that in Australia they had the foresight to build two retractable roofs on the showcourts when they first moved to Melbourne Park years ago - and that's by far the driest Slam of the four, although the roof is obviously needed to protect from heat as well as rain.

Scotso
07-03-2007, 08:53 PM
If weather like this becomes a more frequent trend in coming years (and admittedly this is an exceptionally bad year), a roof over one showcourt barely begins to solve the problems. Except giving a little more advantage to the big names, of course.

They want to make sure they can keep Federer on schedule for the forseeable future. :p

It's absolutely astounding that they managed to have over 3 hours of play today, yet Djokovic/Kiefer and Nadal/Soderling were on court for about 20 minutes. That definitely makes Wimbledon the most idiotic tournament I've ever witnessed. :help:

Morons.

Sjengster
07-03-2007, 08:53 PM
Tradition has nothing to do with this organisation this year. Middle Sunday does not have to be kept to. It's tournament director's call and he chose not to. People keep saying the traditions are crazy but tradition is not the problem it's the referee. He gets the final say on everything.

I was going to call it a baptism of fire but I remembered it's his second year - this is rather like the difficult second album, I suppose. ;) I hope more than one player leaves an appropriately stinging rebuke for his judgment before they depart the event this week, it's the only way they might actually be convinced to change something instead of offering the usual dismissive statements.

Chloe le Bopper
07-03-2007, 08:55 PM
If weather like this becomes a more frequent trend in coming years (and admittedly this is an exceptionally bad year), a roof over one showcourt barely begins to solve the problems. Except giving a little more advantage to the big names, of course.

But it's a start... a start that should have been done years ago ;)

After that they can plan to build more.

I'm all for Wimbledon being the first indoor slam :angel:

Chloe le Bopper
07-03-2007, 08:57 PM
Tradition has nothing to do with this organisation this year. Middle Sunday does not have to be kept to. It's tournament director's call and he chose not to. People keep saying the traditions are crazy but tradition is not the problem it's the referee. He gets the final say on everything.

He traditionally gets the finall say on everything, no? ;)

Shame about the weather, as the tennis has been really good in between.

Agreed. That one hour I made time for was quite nice :D

Sjengster
07-03-2007, 08:58 PM
I can never remember anything as bad as this in the time I've watched Wimbledon, mind you. Ironically enough the last People's Sunday was three years ago when the first week situation was fairly dreadful, but certainly not worse than this year. In 2003 Grosjean ended up having to play five days in a row because of rain delays and finishing bits and pieces of matches against both Ferrero and Henman.

Naranoc
07-03-2007, 08:58 PM
The final has been played on Monday before right? :scratch: Not sure what the likelihood of that is though, if the weather does improve as claimed.

Chloe le Bopper
07-03-2007, 08:59 PM
They want to make sure they can keep Federer on schedule for the forseeable future. :p

It's absolutely astounding that they managed to have over 3 hours of play today, yet Djokovic/Kiefer and Nadal/Soderling were on court for about 20 minutes. That definitely makes Wimbledon the most idiotic tournament I've ever witnessed. :help:

Morons.

It really numbs the mind, doesn't it? I forget, but seem to think there is some rule regarding when and where incomplete matches can continue the following day... but really, if it's not working... change it. Duh.

Sjengster
07-03-2007, 08:59 PM
He traditionally gets the finall say on everything, no? ;)



Agreed. That one hour I made time for was quite nice :D

When you get to see more than one hour it's actually more than nice, it's very good too. :p The Nadal-Soderling encounter has been great drama when they've been able to actually carry on for more than ten minutes.

I actually agree with you about grass-court seedings now as well, you'll be pleased to note. :p

NYCtennisfan
07-03-2007, 09:00 PM
It would also be interesting to see an indoor grass court, never have before as far as I recall. Amazing to think that in Australia they had the foresight to build two retractable roofs on the showcourts when they first moved to Melbourne Park years ago - and that's by far the driest Slam of the four, although the roof is obviously needed to protect from heat as well as rain.

Kudos to the AO for that foresight. A Slam just loses so much momentum and vitality with so many delays and so many dead hours. The USO two years ago had one rain delay (for about 30 minutes in the Jenkins/Nadal match) and it was a tremendous event.

With this much rain, you have true fans being turned off so imagine what that does for the viewership involving the occasional fan i.e. watches some of the slam matches. The weather has been exceptionally bad and the scheduling has been just as bad. When a match extends to a third day, you simply have to put them on first despite the standard of having continued matches played 2nd in the OOP on their respective court.

Raquel
07-03-2007, 09:01 PM
He traditionally gets the finall say on everything, no? ;)



Agreed. That one hour I made time for was quite nice :D
Yes, he traditionally get the final say ;) but he could do what Alan Mills traditionally did in this situation and throw tradition out the window by

(a) playing Sunday and (b) sending big names out to the back row of courts if it means getting the matches through.

Seriously, never mind the players letting him know what they think, where's his email address?! :p

Chloe le Bopper
07-03-2007, 09:02 PM
When you get to see more than one hour it's actually more than nice, it's very good too. :p The Nadal-Soderling encounter has been great drama when they've been able to actually carry on for more than ten minutes.

I actually agree with you about grass-court seedings now as well, you'll be pleased to note. :p

It's been a while since I argued seedings. If I remember correctly, I used to be quite solidly in favour of following the rankings, no? I've softened a bit on that, but still believe it.

Sjengster
07-03-2007, 09:02 PM
The final has been played on Monday before right? :scratch: Not sure what the likelihood of that is though, if the weather does improve as claimed.

2001, and what a great atmosphere it was on the Monday as well. But that was a completely different situation to this year, the whole tournament stayed on schedule perfectly well until the rain screwed up Henman's chances on the Friday and the match didn't finish until the Sunday. How nice it would be for the committee this year to have just one match backlogged rather than well over 50. Not that they haven't contributed to the problem, of course. Nadal or Soderling would be through to the next round by now if they'd played first today.

Sjengster
07-03-2007, 09:05 PM
Seeing more Grand Slam matches indoors would probably improve the atmosphere in general, actually. Not that it's desirable when outdoor play is possible, but just imagine a Henman or Murray match on Centre Court with the roof keeping the noise in. Bedlam, but fairly entertaining bedlam.

Chloe le Bopper
07-03-2007, 09:06 PM
Yes, he traditonally get the final say ;) but he could do what Alan Mills traditionally did in this situation and throw tradition out the window by

(a) playing Sunday and (b) sending big names out to the back row of courts if it means getting the matches through.

Seriously, never mind the players letting him know what they think, where's his email address?! :p

I'll write him an essay that he won't read. It will be worth the ten minutes just to blow some steam off :angel: It will also let me waste some time and focus on that rather than a project that I actually should be working on.

There are security issues with throwing the big names on outer courts, but if it has to be done to get the tournament back on track... hire more security agents for crowd control and player protection.

Honestly, I don't see why we aren't running the tournament. Maybe because they heard that I am listening to S Club 7, and this automatically removes me as a candidate?

Sjengster
07-03-2007, 09:09 PM
Honestly, I don't see why we aren't running the tournament. Maybe because they heard that I am listening to S Club 7, and this automatically removes me as a candidate?

You don't have the truly excellent TV series they made over there, do you? I know it made the Jump the Shark website where North American posters earnestly state its good points and shortcomings, which frankly amazes me.

R.Federer
07-03-2007, 09:11 PM
All slams have their share of detractors (and btw, the USO is not one without its rain issues either).

I find the USO the shittiest slam of all, because I have attended and sat in the stands amongst the rich tennis-know-nothings who come to eat and drink and make noise. These are just subjective opinions. Saying Wimbledon is the shittiest slam of all, and other such things don't make it so.

stebs
07-03-2007, 09:11 PM
If weather like this becomes a more frequent trend in coming years (and admittedly this is an exceptionally bad year), a roof over one showcourt barely begins to solve the problems. Except giving a little more advantage to the big names, of course.

Well if you take this year as an example then thigns still aren't perfect but a roof over centre and things are close to being on track. Three hours of tennis today, a dry court provides play from 11.10 to about 8.30 (estimate) which is an additional 6 hours or so. In that time a lot can get done if it has to.

Of course, I am not implying that a roof over one court will solve all Wimbledon's problems but it does provide something.

Chloe le Bopper
07-03-2007, 09:13 PM
You don't have the truly excellent TV series they made over there, do you? I know it made the Jump the Shark website where North American posters earnestly state its good points and shortcomings, which frankly amazes me.
We had S Club 7 in Canada, yes. It was shown on Much Music. It was pretty awful, but it was funny awful. I recall watching it. Heh.

Sjengster
07-03-2007, 09:16 PM
We had S Club 7 in Canada, yes. It was shown on Much Music. It was pretty awful, but it was funny awful. I recall watching it. Heh.

Amazing to think that the format is the direct descendant of things like A Hard Day's Night and Help from the sixties, complete with wacky plot devices, comedy villains and overlong chase scenes. With a little bit of music in between, naturally.

Substitute the word tennis for music above and you have a good summary of this year's Wimbledon, unfortunately.

Raquel
07-03-2007, 09:17 PM
I'll write him an essay that he won't read. It will be worth the ten minutes just to blow some steam off :angel: It will also let me waste some time and focus on that rather than a project that I actually should be working on.

There are security issues with throwing the big names on outer courts, but if it has to be done to get the tournament back on track... hire more security agents for crowd control and player protection.

Honestly, I don't see why we aren't running the tournament. Maybe because they heard that I am listening to S Club 7, and this automatically removes me as a candidate?
There are security issues but they have done it a couple of times before. I said in another thread about Martina Navratilova. She was on BBC the other day saying one year she was like the 3 time defending champion at the time and they had her scheduled for 3rd on Centre after the day before got washed out. They knew they'd backlog worse so they put her on something like Court 15 and she said that looking back she was glad because she didn't wait another day, even if it's not ideal playing in front of like 100 people when you are used to 10,000.

Technically they could easily have postponed a doubles and at least put Hewitt/Canas and Djokovic/Kiefer first on a court somewhere if they had to play those women's matches early. Court 6 is a bit bigger for fans and is covered by TV, if there's an issue with one of those player's countries wanting to show it on TV. So is Court 14.

I'm almost starting a witch hunt with the amount of times I've named him in threads today but seriously Andrew Jarrett is not handling this as well as Alan Mills used to. That guy actually did make common sense decisions now and again.

Chloe le Bopper
07-03-2007, 09:17 PM
All slams have their share of detractors (and btw, the USO is not one without its rain issues either).

I find the USO the shittiest slam of all, because I have attended and sat in the stands amongst the rich tennis-know-nothings who come to eat and drink and make noise.

The USO is the only slam that I've personally attended (which means that my opinions in regards to which slam is organized best or worst is limited to my media experience of the other three slams). There are scores of intelligent tennis fans on the grounds. You just have to know where and how to find them. I can't imagine that Wimbledon is any better when it comes to the rich-tennis-know-nothins ;)

Saying Wimbledon is the shittiest slam of all, and other such things don't make it so. These are just subjective opinions.

I don't believe that I was attempting to speak on behalf of the masses with such statements. Just because I find it grossly unnecessary to follow up every opinion of mine with "IMO" doesn't mean that I believe my opinion to be absolute fact which must be agreed upon by all.

Mind you, in this case... ;)

Scotso
07-03-2007, 09:19 PM
It really numbs the mind, doesn't it? I forget, but seem to think there is some rule regarding when and where incomplete matches can continue the following day... but really, if it's not working... change it. Duh.

It's not a rule. And on tomorrow's schedule they put them first up... finally.

And it didn't stop them from putting Federer first up to resume his match with Del Potro earlier in the tournament.

Sjengster
07-03-2007, 09:19 PM
The USO is the only slam that I've personally attended (which means that my opinions in regards to which slam is organized best or worst is limited to my media experience of the other three slams). There are scores of intelligent tennis fans on the grounds. You just have to know where and how to find them. I can't imagine that Wimbledon is any better when it comes to the rich-tennis-know-nothins ;)


With one slight improvement, the rich know-nothings come here to eat and drink and stay quiet. ;)

Raquel
07-03-2007, 09:22 PM
With one slight improvement, the rich know-nothings come here to eat and drink and stay quiet. ;)
Saying that, one thing I've noticed is when it rains, Centre and Court 1 empties pretty quickly. Camera cuts to court 3 and it's still packed and covered in umbrellas until the bitter end. That's the real fans out there ;)

Sjengster
07-03-2007, 09:25 PM
Saying that, one thing I've noticed is when it rains, Centre and Court 1 empties pretty quickly. Camera cuts to court 3 and it's still packed and covered in umbrellas until the bitter end. That's the real fans out there ;)

I loved how Sue Barker described those fans today as "so lucky", getting to see Venus v Sharapova (all 3 points of it) when they were supposed to get a doubles match, when they were huddling in driving rain while at risk of being zapped by lightning in the midst of a huge thunderstorm.

ilostmymarbles
07-03-2007, 09:25 PM
you know you can really tell which of the whiners are actually watching wimbledon and which ones are just whining becuase they can and have absolutly no idea what is actually going on.

You say but the big names on the lesser courts, well lets see i belive that hewitt v canas was on..oohh lets see.. court 18 today. yeah that really shows that thier not putting the big names on the lesser courts!!:rolleyes:

And onother thing, the tournament director doesn't 'traditionally' get the last say on whether thiers play on sunday, thats his job who else is supposed to say but him? The tournament dierctor at the AO decides if its too hot to play on thier courts so why is such a bad thing that the tournament director is actually doing his job? the same sort of job that, funnily enough the other tournament directors do to.

Stop being such idiotic, mindless haters and actually use your brain and see just how ridiculous you sound.

R.Federer
07-03-2007, 09:27 PM
The USO is the only slam that I've personally attended (which means that my opinions in regards to which slam is organized best or worst is limited to my media experience of the other three slams). There are scores of intelligent tennis fans on the grounds. You just have to know where and how to find them. I can't imagine that Wimbledon is any better when it comes to the rich-tennis-know-nothins.

I don't believe that I was attempting to speak on behalf of the masses with such statements. Just because I find it grossly unnecessary to follow up every opinion of mine with "IMO" doesn't mean that I believe my opinion to be absolute fact which must be agreed upon by all.


Right, which is why I prefaced my few lines with "every slam has its share of detractors".

At the USO I have many experiences. Once I sat far up behind some gold-n-green Aussies one year, and you can see me on any replay of Federer defeats Hewitt, because they show these guys with the wallabies who are eating most of the time, another time I sat in JP Morgan Chase box during Capriati and someone (exclusive seats, freebies for friends of friends of people working, and I saw what happened there -- come, meet friends, oh is that a tennis match going on? eat more, drink, etc). And this has been the case in so many other matches there.

R.Federer
07-03-2007, 09:27 PM
I will say this, that of all the complaints you hear about Wimbledon this year from the people who matter (i.e, players) none as far as I know is about the weather. It is about pasta, lack of entertainment in Wimbledonshire, and robberies in locker rooms.

Scotso
07-03-2007, 09:28 PM
It's also quite obvious that Wimbledon organizers are pushing for a Roddick vs. Federer semifinal. They put Roddick up first on court tomorrow. Normally they would not do this unless they will be murdered otherwise (see men's third round matches).

Yet, Tsonga and Gasquet they don't seem to care as much about.

Chloe le Bopper
07-03-2007, 09:29 PM
Saying that, one thing I've noticed is when it rains, Centre and Court 1 empties pretty quickly. Camera cuts to court 3 and it's still packed and covered in umbrellas until the bitter end. That's the real fans out there ;)



That's generally the case at the USO as well. Sure you still get people out there that don't know the difference between Henin and Mauresmo, but at least they are there to enjoy the tennis and not simply to be seen.

Scotso
07-03-2007, 09:29 PM
you know you can really tell which of the whiners are actually watching wimbledon and which ones are just whining becuase they can and have absolutly no idea what is actually going on.

You say but the big names on the lesser courts, well lets see i belive that hewitt v canas was on..oohh lets see.. court 18 today. yeah that really shows that thier not putting the big names on the lesser courts!!:rolleyes:

And onother thing, the tournament director doesn't 'traditionally' get the last say on whether thiers play on sunday, thats his job who else is supposed to say but him? The tournament dierctor at the AO decides if its too hot to play on thier courts so why is such a bad thing that the tournament director is actually doing his job? the same sort of job that, funnily enough the other tournament directors do to.

Stop being such idiotic, mindless haters and actually use your brain and see just how ridiculous you sound.

Actually, court 18 is one of the larger show courts. So, you're pretty much the one looking like the idiot.

Sjengster
07-03-2007, 09:30 PM
It's also quite obvious that Wimbledon organizers are pushing for a Roddick vs. Federer semifinal. They put Roddick up first on court tomorrow. Normally they would not do this unless they will be murdered otherwise (see men's third round matches).

Yet, Tsonga and Gasquet they don't seem to care as much about.

Roddick is as good as two sets to love up in that match already, Tsonga and Gasquet haven't even started.

Deivid23
07-03-2007, 09:30 PM
I don't believe that I was attempting to speak on behalf of the masses with such statements. Just because I find it grossly unnecessary to follow up every opinion of mine with "IMO" doesn't mean that I believe my opinion to be absolute fact which must be agreed upon by all.


:haha:

Too funny, Becca

rocketassist
07-03-2007, 09:31 PM
Right, which is why I prefaced my few lines with "every slam has its share of detractors".

At the USO I have many experiences. Once I sat far up behind some gold-n-green Aussies one year, and you can see me on any replay of Federer defeats Hewitt, because they show these guys with the wallabies who are eating most of the time, another time I sat in JP Morgan Chase box during Capriati and someone (exclusive seats, freebies for friends of friends of people working, and I saw what happened there -- come, meet friends, oh is that a tennis match going on? eat more, drink, etc). And this has been the case in so many other matches there.

I had a feeling you were from an English speaking country and not Swiss :lol:

Raquel
07-03-2007, 09:32 PM
you know you can really tell which of the whiners are actually watching wimbledon and which ones are just whining becuase they can and have absolutly no idea what is actually going on.

You say but the big names on the lesser courts, well lets see i belive that hewitt v canas was on..oohh lets see.. court 18 today. yeah that really shows that thier not putting the big names on the lesser courts!!:rolleyes:
Court 18 is a show court. That was a decent allocation for a round 3 match in good weather but they had to wait until after Kuznetsova played a 4R singles while a doubles was on court 14 - which is a smaller court than 18, but bigger than most smaller courts. Put Kuznetsova or Hewitt there, and maximise the time you have that's dry - especially when you know the forecast is not good. Thats all I was getting at.



Stop being such idiotic, mindless haters and actually use your brain and see just how ridiculous you sound.I don't think a lot of the suggestions in this thread are idiotic. Some are just common sense.

rocketassist
07-03-2007, 09:32 PM
you know you can really tell which of the whiners are actually watching wimbledon and which ones are just whining becuase they can and have absolutly no idea what is actually going on.

You say but the big names on the lesser courts, well lets see i belive that hewitt v canas was on..oohh lets see.. court 18 today. yeah that really shows that thier not putting the big names on the lesser courts!!:rolleyes:

And onother thing, the tournament director doesn't 'traditionally' get the last say on whether thiers play on sunday, thats his job who else is supposed to say but him? The tournament dierctor at the AO decides if its too hot to play on thier courts so why is such a bad thing that the tournament director is actually doing his job? the same sort of job that, funnily enough the other tournament directors do to.

Stop being such idiotic, mindless haters and actually use your brain and see just how ridiculous you sound.

You must be one of the tournament referee's lackeys.

Deivid23
07-03-2007, 09:33 PM
I think it will be better for all if they give Roger the trophy tomorrow with another 3 automatic withdrawals and all players pack their bags back home. After all rain is only delaying a foregone conclusion and pissing people off

Horatio Caine
07-03-2007, 09:33 PM
Its getting ridiculous now with all the rain. The schedulers have stuffed up big style and players will have to play 2 matches a day or something. This tournament is stuck in the past, and has been shown up for what it really is - crap. The tournament is the most boring in the year (finally I agree with Davydenko), and it should just be cancelled for the year.

How about we cancel your posting abilities until you learn how to spell? :rolleyes:

Wimbledon NOT "Wimbeldon." :retard:

R.Federer
07-03-2007, 09:35 PM
I had a feeling you were from an English speaking country and not Swiss :lol:
I lived in the Great U.S. of A (and greater still New York City) for 7 years. I had to learn to speak the language. But when I am not writing on these boards (where you are corrected for grammar, punctuation, spellings), I write and speak poorly.

It took me 3.5 minutes to write the above sentence.

Scotso
07-03-2007, 09:35 PM
How about we cancel your posting abilities until you learn how to spell? :rolleyes:

Wimbledon NOT "Wimbeldon." :retard:

I will make sure to check all of your posts for proper spelling and grammar from now on.

Scotso
07-03-2007, 09:36 PM
You must be one of the tournament referee's lackeys.

It wouldn't surprise me if he was one of the tournament referees. :p

Chloe le Bopper
07-03-2007, 09:37 PM
you know you can really tell which of the whiners are actually watching wimbledon and which ones are just whining becuase they can and have absolutly no idea what is actually going on...

You say but the big names on the lesser courts, well lets see i belive that hewitt v canas was on..oohh lets see.. court 18 today. yeah that really shows that thier not putting the big names on the lesser courts!!:rolleyes: ...

Um. I stopped reading after this. I hate to be the bearer of obvious news, my friend, but a lower the number appointed to the counrt doesn't always indicate that the seating capacity is lowest there. Hewitt being put on court 18 is not in any way a counter point to what several of us have been posting.

Scotso
07-03-2007, 09:37 PM
I think it will be better for all if the give Roger the trophy tomorrow with another 3 automatic withdrawals and all players pack their bags back home. After all rain is only delaying a foregone conclusion and pissing people off

Agreed.

But they should give Djokovic the runner up trophy, prize money, and points. That would please me. :p

Raquel
07-03-2007, 09:38 PM
I loved how Sue Barker described those fans today as "so lucky", getting to see Venus v Sharapova (all 3 points of it) when they were supposed to get a doubles match, when they were huddling in driving rain while at risk of being zapped by lightning in the midst of a huge thunderstorm.
:lol: I know. Just after she said how lucky they were, the thunder started and girls were literally screaming in terror under their umbrellas.

rocketassist
07-03-2007, 09:38 PM
I lived in the Great U.S. of A (and greater still New York City) for 7 years. I had to learn to speak the language. But when I am not writing on these boards (where you are corrected for grammar, punctuation, spellings), I write and speak poorly.

It took me 3.5 minutes to write the above sentence.

Ah right. Well you made no mistakes there, so doesn't seem much wrong with it!

Chloe le Bopper
07-03-2007, 09:41 PM
Actually, court 18 is one of the larger show courts. So, you're pretty much the one looking like the idiot.

This is more or less what I was saying, but far more to-the-point :angel:

On that note, I must go out for coffee. Sigh. I will be back to hate Wimbledon later!

R.Federer
07-03-2007, 09:46 PM
It's also quite obvious that Wimbledon organizers are pushing for a Roddick vs. Federer semifinal. They put Roddick up first on court tomorrow. Normally they would not do this unless they will be murdered otherwise (see men's third round matches).

Actually, where this is concerned, more than weather comes into play because of US television rights. Ironically, this agreement has hurt Andy in the past. Because of the time difference, for instance, they made his semi with Mario go later than Federer's. As it turned out, only the latter semi had any rain (that lucky b****** Federer. AGAIN. Lucks out with the weather :fiery: ), and it was also a longer match. This probably had some physical conditioning consequences for him in the final.

Apemant
07-03-2007, 09:57 PM
They could have probably reacted somewhat better, but in the end, it's the weather. Awfully raining all week long, what can you do about it? :shrug: Like someone said, even if they had roofs over 2 courts it would only cut the problem by 10%. With weather like this, it wouldn't mean much so much.

The only thing I didn't get is why they didn't use the middle Sunday, as it looked rather dry. The official explanation was 'we weren't so much behind'. Bleh. I believed intelligent people were able to think about the future as well. Esp. if they have weather forecast like they did.

R.Federer
07-03-2007, 10:01 PM
The only thing I didn't get is why they didn't use the middle Sunday, as it looked rather dry. The official explanation was 'we weren't so much behind'. Bleh. I believed intelligent people were able to think about the future as well. Esp. if they have weather forecast like they did.

They'll get it finished in time, just watch, the men's final will be on Sunday. This coming Sunday.

Geniey2g
07-03-2007, 10:10 PM
I bet middle Sunday isn't looking so bad now is it, Tim Phillips?

Retarded scheduling this year, absolutely absurd. And to think that Sunday was blazing sunshine all day apart from about half an hour of rain. They really dropped the ball with this one.

Clara Bow
07-03-2007, 10:14 PM
They'll get it finished in time, just watch, the men's final will be on Sunday. This coming Sunday.

If it is on Sunday I don't think it will be a very good match or competative. The player from the bottom half would have had to play from Thursday straight through Sunday. I would have to think that the player on the top will not have an advantage in terms of fatigue.

Sjengster
07-03-2007, 10:15 PM
It seems the forecast for Sunday is bad too, they'll have to go into a third week and I sincerely hope that it turns out that way; I don't want another player to go through what happened at the 2003 US Open.

R.Federer
07-03-2007, 10:23 PM
If it is on Sunday I don't think it will be a very good match or competative. The player from the bottom half would have had to play from Thursday straight through Sunday. I would have to think that the player on the top will not have an advantage in terms of fatigue.
Yep, that's true.
I don't think the organizers care about that too much, though. I think they want ticketholders to get what they came for. Many people are undoubtedly travelling from far and plan to end their Wimbledon trip (not to mention, their hotelling) on Sunday.
Somehow I don't think we're going to get a 2001.

R.Federer
07-03-2007, 10:27 PM
It seems the forecast for Sunday is bad too, they'll have to go into a third week and I sincerely hope that it turns out that way; I don't want another player to go through what happened at the 2003 US Open.


Where did you get this weather information? It seems quite odd.

This is what the weather forecast is on this site (B.B.C). It seems good weather is in store, and particularly on Sunday.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?id=3564

Ceri
07-03-2007, 10:30 PM
Alternate title of thread: This is where players I don't like do well. I can pretend to blame the weather (although it is atrocious every year, no one will notice).
haha :-p

Geniey2g
07-03-2007, 10:31 PM
Ah, you would have loved BBC commentary on the final two years ago, I believe, when Andrew Castle proudly announced during the trophy ceremony that this was the "best-run tournament in the world." I recall joebuk, now sadly an ex-member of this board, suggested the words "Welcome to Hell" stencilled behind the baseline on Centre Court would be a more appropriate description. ;)
Yeah, but Castle is a bit of a p-r-i-c-k, isn't he? I often wonder if he follows tennis apart from mid June to early July. Seriously.

Sjengster
07-03-2007, 10:52 PM
See the BBC/Eurosport/Sky thread for more on GMTV's finest.

megadeth
07-03-2007, 11:27 PM
Yeah, I'm pissed as hell. Some 3rd round matches haven't even finished playing today (Tuesday), and they will have to resume on Wednesday! In the SECOND week of Wimbledon! That's such crap! All I'm saying is that they better not have Federer play his quarterfinals match on Wednesday until ALL the third and fourth round matches have been played!

And how are they going to do this? For instance, would Nadal have to play 3rd round on Wed, 4th round on Th, quarters on Fri, semis on Sat, and final on Sun, if he were to get that far? That's not fair on the player's body at all. God, Wimbledon officials are d*mn selfish!

well, now the rafatards have their excuse ready should he lose to either soderling, youzhny, or berdych! :p

GlennMirnyi
07-03-2007, 11:35 PM
I will make sure to check all of your posts for proper spelling and grammar from now on.

Just like they checked Karol Beck, eh? :rolleyes: Hypocrite.


Chloe is just another moonballing lover here ranting about Wimbledon. Don't like it? Don't watch it. You like the grass now it's good for moonballing, I guess. :lol:

Tanguero
07-04-2007, 12:11 AM
Where did you get this weather information? It seems quite odd.

This is what the weather forecast is on this site (B.B.C). It seems good weather is in store, and particularly on Sunday.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?id=3564

Hahahahahahha!!! :haha:

It's always nice on sunday! Let's play on sunday!! :rolleyes:

knightsky
07-04-2007, 12:37 AM
Saying that, one thing I've noticed is when it rains, Centre and Court 1 empties pretty quickly. Camera cuts to court 3 and it's still packed and covered in umbrellas until the bitter end. That's the real fans out there ;)
I think the main reason for this is that its free seating on Court 3, so those who managed to get seats hang on to them for dear life. For Centre and Court 1, you can always come back to your seat anytime so people head for shelter or food once play is interrupted.

star
07-04-2007, 01:14 AM
At least they are scheduling the Djokovic and Nadal matches first up tomorrow. I wonder if there were some strong words exchanged about the scheduling. Also Roddick's match is scheduled first up.

Why they couldn't have done that today is anyone's guess.

NYCtennisfan
07-04-2007, 01:21 AM
At least they are scheduling the Djokovic and Nadal matches first up tomorrow. I wonder if there were some strong words exchanged about the scheduling. Also Roddick's match is scheduled first up.

Why they couldn't have done that today is anyone's guess.

If they had done it today, they could've most likely finished and wouldn't be so woefully behind schedule. They could play the 4th round matches tommorrow, and so on. They saw the weather forecast, they knew they had to get these matches in....mind-boggling inept decision making.

Scotso
07-04-2007, 02:40 AM
Just like they checked Karol Beck, eh? :rolleyes: Hypocrite.

Congratulations. This post wins for the most "WTF?!" ever.

Scotso
07-04-2007, 02:41 AM
Yep, that's true.
I don't think the organizers care about that too much, though. I think they want ticketholders to get what they came for. Many people are undoubtedly travelling from far and plan to end their Wimbledon trip (not to mention, their hotelling) on Sunday.
Somehow I don't think we're going to get a 2001.

If the matches get delayed much more, I don't think they'll have much of a choice.

Players do have SOME power in this game, and if they force the bottom half to play more than one best-of-5 match in one day, there will be hell to pay.

Scotso
07-04-2007, 02:42 AM
Where did you get this weather information? It seems quite odd.

This is what the weather forecast is on this site (B.B.C). It seems good weather is in store, and particularly on Sunday.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?id=3564

The weather in that country seems to change every five minutes.

Chloe le Bopper
07-04-2007, 05:29 AM
They could have probably reacted somewhat better, but in the end, it's the weather. Awfully raining all week long, what can you do about it? :shrug: Like someone said, even if they had roofs over 2 courts it would only cut the problem by 10%. With weather like this, it wouldn't mean much so much.

The only thing I didn't get is why they didn't use the middle Sunday, as it looked rather dry. The official explanation was 'we weren't so much behind'. Bleh. I believed intelligent people were able to think about the future as well. Esp. if they have weather forecast like they did.

At least if an effort had been made to organize and schedule around the craptacular weather, there would be far less to criticize.

R.Federer
07-04-2007, 05:34 AM
If the matches get delayed much more, I don't think they'll have much of a choice.

Players do have SOME power in this game, and if they force the bottom half to play more than one best-of-5 match in one day, there will be hell to pay.
Yes it is possible. If many of the men's matches go to 5, then there is high risk. Still, the weather (well, who knows which forecast to believe) seems like it is going to be better. Sucks for ticketholders. Imagine having tickets to the men's or women's finals, and having to forfeit those.

Action Jackson
07-04-2007, 05:40 AM
We all know Federer is winning the trophy. I wonder if he has gone back to Basel for a few days rest and they will call him up to play his next match at home.

BlueSwan
07-04-2007, 05:49 AM
The way I see it, the sensible solution is to make all men's quarters and semis 3-setters and then play 5 sets again in the final.

That way Nadal/Soderling/Djokovic/Kiefer who have yet to finish the third round, would still be able to play with no injury risk like this:

Wednesday: finish up third round
Thursday: Fourth round best of 5
Friday: Quarter best of 3
Saturday: Semi best of 3
Sunday: Final best of 5

That's doable for any tennis player in good shape.

Why not have the fourth round be best of 3? Because the other fourth round matches weren't.

RonE
07-04-2007, 06:08 AM
Alternate title of thread: This is where players I don't like do well. I can pretend to blame the weather (although it is atrocious every year, no one will notice).

Couldn't agree more, you took the words right out of my mouth.

RonE
07-04-2007, 06:13 AM
The way I see it, the sensible solution is to make all men's quarters and semis 3-setters and then play 5 sets again in the final.

That way Nadal/Soderling/Djokovic/Kiefer who have yet to finish the third round, would still be able to play with no injury risk like this:

Wednesday: finish up third round
Thursday: Fourth round best of 5
Friday: Quarter best of 3
Saturday: Semi best of 3
Sunday: Final best of 5

That's doable for any tennis player in good shape.

Why not have the fourth round be best of 3? Because the other fourth round matches weren't.

Best of 3 matches in a grand slam??? :smash:

Action Jackson
07-04-2007, 06:51 AM
Why not have the fourth round be best of 3? Because the other fourth round matches weren't.

Stay away from the Tuborg, Carlsberg and the Aalborg akevitt, as good as these products are, too much consumption of this product isn't good for the mind.

Chloe le Bopper
07-04-2007, 07:12 AM
Couldn't agree more, you took the words right out of my mouth.
The players that I like actually have been doing very well there, recently. I imagine that this is the case for many of the posters in here whom are being critical. Not to let fact get in the way of utter nonsense, of course.

Rogiman
07-04-2007, 07:23 AM
Go to bed already, Becca :p

Action Jackson
07-04-2007, 07:28 AM
Couldn't agree more, you took the words right out of my mouth.

RonEaldo, we know you love pork, but this does not mean you should be telling porkies :p

Chloe le Bopper
07-04-2007, 07:33 AM
I really should go to bed, I'm kind of cranky :(

Action Jackson
07-04-2007, 07:37 AM
I really should go to bed, I'm kind of cranky :(

It's been too long, since you have ranted, get it out of your system.

bokehlicious
07-04-2007, 08:39 AM
Its getting ridiculous now with all the rain. The schedulers have stuffed up big style and players will have to play 2 matches a day or something. This tournament is stuck in the past, and has been shown up for what it really is - crap. The tournament is the most boring in the year (finally I agree with Davydenko), and it should just be cancelled for the year.

Best. Thread. Ever.

:retard: :zzz:

Scotso
07-04-2007, 01:26 PM
The players that I like actually have been doing very well there, recently. I imagine that this is the case for many of the posters in here whom are being critical. Not to let fact get in the way of utter nonsense, of course.

I also can't help but notice that the people being critical of the critical people here are all Roger fans. Of course they don't have a problem with what has been going on... their man hasn't been affected at all.

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-04-2007, 01:28 PM
I also can't help but notice that the people being critical of the critical people here are all Roger fans. Of course they don't have a problem with what has been going on... their man hasn't been affected at all.

Federer fans dont care about tennis only Federer.

As long as he is unaffected or helped the sitaution is good in their twisted minds.

CassL
07-04-2007, 01:43 PM
Federer fans dont care about tennis only Federer.

As long as he is unaffected or helped the sitaution is good in their twisted minds.

So true. And it seems like that's the mentality of the Wimbledon organizers, too.

Chloe le Bopper
07-06-2007, 01:48 AM
Well at least there wasn't anything for them to royally fuck up the last couple of days. I've been at a loss of things to bitch about. :awww:

r2473
07-06-2007, 07:03 PM
The tournament is the most boring in the year (finally I agree with Davydenko), and it should just be cancelled for the year.

Couldn't agree more. Today was just boring. Why don't they just cancel this thing!!!

Geniey2g
07-06-2007, 08:16 PM
Couldn't agree more. Today was just boring. Why don't they just cancel this thing!!!
Today was boring?! :retard:

-Fed got a set taken off him
-Richie beat Roddick in a great match
-Ditto Djokovic vs. Baggy
-Rafa schooled Berdy
-Ditto Venus, Ana
-Justine LOST :D
-No rain.
= A perfect day

I'm sure you were just going for shock tactics :yeah:

Naranoc
07-06-2007, 10:18 PM
^ Or just being sarcastic :D

Vamos Wimbledon :woohoo:. The bandwagon for it and MTFers' approval fluctuates as readily as the weather ;)

Chloe le Bopper
07-07-2007, 06:14 AM
Oh, I still think that Wimbledon stinks. But, as there are no other Grand Slams going on at the moment, I'm willing to pay attention to it.