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Is Wimbledon the worst prepared sporting event in the world...

mdhallu
07-03-2007, 03:08 AM
1. It rains every day
2. There are no roofs
3. No lights
4. No play during sunny sundays because they don't want to pay employees
5. Not enough parking

TENNIS DESERVES BETTER THAN THIS GARBAGE

ReturnWinner
07-03-2007, 03:35 AM
very likely, even a volleyball match in Iraq is better prepared

nobama
07-03-2007, 03:54 AM
:yawn:

El Legenda
07-03-2007, 04:22 AM
worst of all GS and some AMS might be better.

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-03-2007, 04:29 AM
Yes

Wimbledon is a disgrace to tennis.

Lucinda
07-03-2007, 04:55 AM
They're like 3 weeks behind schedule yet they can't start a match before 1:00pm. Once Sunday hits they'll want to squeeze the quallies, semi's, and final all in one day. Good Luck.

RagingLamb
07-03-2007, 04:55 AM
it's been like that for years with no problems. so no. it's not poorly prepared.

mdhallu
07-03-2007, 08:29 AM
it's been like that for years with no problems. so no. it's not poorly prepared.

what are you talking about? Every year there is a huge stress among officials, fans and tennis players about whether they will be caught up or have to move final to Monday...I don't think its fair to the players to have them sit around all day wasting there time wondering if they will play or not. There is no other sporting event that is so inconsiderate to the fans and players schedules

CmonAussie
07-03-2007, 09:12 AM
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It`s a pity Federer keeps saying that Wimby is the most prestigious Slam><...

Wimby is by far the worst organised international sporting event that I can think of!!!

Maybe the ITF should threaten Wimby`s Slam status & then finally it`ll get it`s arse into gear<:)

SeagullUK
07-03-2007, 09:29 AM
Having been to Wimbledon many times it is a fantastically run event. There is nothing that can be done about rain (at least they get the covers on quick unlike US Open where they go around with hairdryers!)...If it rained this much at any slam it would cause major problems.
Oh and by the way...it's chucking it down in UK this morning!!

Jimnik
07-03-2007, 09:45 AM
If you think it's so poorly run, maybe you should write them a letter about how you would have done a much better job. :retard:

Bart.
07-03-2007, 10:05 AM
1. It rains every day
2. There are no roofs
3. No lights
4. No play during sunny sundays because they don't want to pay employees
5. Not enough parking

TENNIS DESERVES BETTER THAN THIS GARBAGE

Why should there be lights?

SeagullUK
07-03-2007, 10:31 AM
1. It rains every day
2. There are no roofs
3. No lights
4. No play during sunny sundays because they don't want to pay employees
5. Not enough parking

TENNIS DESERVES BETTER THAN THIS GARBAGE

1. So what - not Wimbledons fault
2. That is because it is an outdoor tennis event (like French and US Open)
3. You think you can play in the rain as long as you have lights?
4. Don't know if you heard but there has been major security events in UK in the last week...I believe they errected some more security measures on Sunday.
5. You are kidding right!...get a train like everyone else

Sean.J.S.
07-03-2007, 10:37 AM
1. It rains every day

And how are they supposed to prevent that from happening. :rolleyes:

ilostmymarbles
07-03-2007, 10:39 AM
1. Unless you think the wimbly officials are gods you can't exactly expect them to control the weather. It rains in England, get over it.
This has been the wettest june since 1914, theres been terrible flooding over all england and places have had to be evacuated cause the reseviors are literally full to bursting. Just be gratefull the entire thing wasn't flooded out.

2. The roofs are on the way, they are extremely expensive and are a logistical nightmare, except for the aussie open and the indoors no other tournaments have roofs. Are they, by your logic, all craply organised?

3. why should they have lights? they don't do night matches here. It would be too cold.

4. The middle sunday is not kept free due to staffing payments. Its kept free because the grass needs to be tended. It needs to be waterd fertilised and left for one day without being cut to reduce the damage. It astonishes me that people complain about the grass slowing down and being practiaclly clay yet when the officials try to do something about everybody complains!!

5. This is london, mate, theirs never enough parking cause thier simply isn't space for it!

mouse
07-03-2007, 10:46 AM
3. You think you can play in the rain as long as you have lights?


No.

But at least you have the nights in case of a rainy day? What do the kids in America say? Oh yes. DUH!

RonE
07-03-2007, 10:46 AM
USO 2003.

'Nuff said.

Rogiman
07-03-2007, 10:48 AM
Scheduling is probably the only serious problem.

RonE
07-03-2007, 10:49 AM
Having been to Wimbledon many times it is a fantastically run event. There is nothing that can be done about rain (at least they get the covers on quick unlike US Open where they go around with hairdryers!)...If it rained this much at any slam it would cause major problems.
Oh and by the way...it's chucking it down in UK this morning!!

Bingo!

Ceri
07-03-2007, 10:52 AM
1. Unless you think the wimbly officials are gods you can't exactly expect them to control the weather. It rains in England, get over it.
This has been the wettest june since 1914, theres been terrible flooding over all england and places have had to be evacuated cause the reseviors are literally full to bursting. Just be gratefull the entire thing wasn't flooded out.

2. The roofs are on the way, they are extremely expensive and are a logistical nightmare, except for the aussie open and the indoors no other tournaments have roofs. Are they, by your logic, all craply organised?

3. why should they have lights? they don't do night matches here. It would be too cold.

4. The middle sunday is not kept free due to staffing payments. Its kept free because the grass needs to be tended. It needs to be waterd fertilised and left for one day without being cut to reduce the damage. It astonishes me that people complain about the grass slowing down and being practiaclly clay yet when the officials try to do something about everybody complains!!

5. This is london, mate, theirs never enough parking cause thier simply isn't space for it!

Well said :)

nanoman
07-03-2007, 10:54 AM
Nope, nothing tops the USOpen's ridiculous "Super Saturday".

RonE
07-03-2007, 10:57 AM
No.

But at least you have the nights in case of a rainy day? What do the kids in America say? Oh yes. DUH!

The difference is, the temperatures in N. America and Australia are pleasant enough at night to allow night matches outdoors. In continental Europe and the U.K. no matter how hot the days are the temperature falls precipitously after sunset.

mdhallu
07-03-2007, 11:04 AM
what bothers me most is that Wimbledon is supposed to be the most prestigious/highest tournament in Tennis but it is so backwards...i dont care about all the BS about logistics and how difficult it is to build a roof...Wimbledon is a rich tennis club they can afford to make changes. These changes should have been made 20 years ago. As a tennis fan i hate having to wait by my TV hoping whether a match will take place...this year is no different than other years...EVERY WIMBLEDON I HAVE EVER SEEN IS RUINED BY RAIN DELAYS

stebs
07-03-2007, 11:08 AM
I agree, the tournament organisers should prepare the weather much better than they do.

nobama
07-03-2007, 01:09 PM
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It`s a pity Federer keeps saying that Wimby is the most prestigious Slam><...

Wimby is by far the worst organised international sporting event that I can think of!!!

Maybe the ITF should threaten Wimby`s Slam status & then finally it`ll get it`s arse into gear<:)Why is it the worst organized? They can't control the rain. Was the US Open the worst organised in 2003 when they were plagued by rain delays? I'm sorry but you can't blame a tournament for the weather. And at least Wimbledon is spending the $$ to install a roof. Perhaps something the USTA should've thought of before they built AA, which is too large for a tennis stadium anyway.

Sofyaxo
07-03-2007, 01:30 PM
Yes.

Grass sucks, clay is the best surface out there blah blah blah.

AceMaker
07-03-2007, 01:32 PM
yes of course

the worst but when I say "the worst" is "the worst" seriously

Blue Heart24
07-03-2007, 01:50 PM
Yes.

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-03-2007, 02:03 PM
what bothers me most is that Wimbledon is supposed to be the most prestigious/highest tournament in Tennis but it is so backwards...i dont care about all the BS about logistics and how difficult it is to build a roof...Wimbledon is a rich tennis club they can afford to make changes. These changes should have been made 20 years ago. As a tennis fan i hate having to wait by my TV hoping whether a match will take place...this year is no different than other years...EVERY WIMBLEDON I HAVE EVER SEEN IS RUINED BY RAIN DELAYS

:worship:

Wimby insults fans by following their stupid precious tradition.

rocketassist
07-03-2007, 02:16 PM
It is poorly run. They can always come back on Sunday and finish matches but they just wouldn't. TRADITION is too much for these fools.

Soderling-Nadal is a key match that needs to be finished and the winenr playing Youzhny later today so what do they do? Stick it on second after Jankovic's match. Dreadful.

RonE
07-03-2007, 02:21 PM
Was the US Open the worst organised in 2003 when they were plagued by rain delays?

Yes because of the heavy favouritism they showed certain players with regards to the schedule :rolleyes:

And as someone mentioned before, why not use a tarpaulin of some kind to cover the court instead of using blowdryers to dry it after a rain delay as that holds up match play even longer :smash:

Heavenseventeen
07-03-2007, 02:24 PM
They're like 3 weeks behind schedule yet they can't start a match before 1:00pm.

That's what I don't understand. The commentator called the French lazy, saying the match starts at 11am and they arrive at 1pm, but then in our own country the match starts at 1pm. Why can't they start in the morning?:confused:

Action Jackson
07-03-2007, 02:25 PM
Nothing beats the US Open 2003 for poor organisation, this was worse than putting a one legged man in an arse kicking contest.

JustJames
07-03-2007, 02:26 PM
:worship:

Wimby insults fans by following their stupid precious tradition.

Insults fans?
Lmao that's what most fans go for and tune in for. Wimby is the one tournament not dominated by advertisment boards and tv commercials [as its available on the BBC], which is appreciated by most true tennis fans who respect the sports history and those interested in tennis rather than bravado.
Also, without some tournaments having a more traditional stand-point there would be little variety in the tennis calender..e.g we have the contrast between the music playing, loud, modern US Open and the quite, tradtional Wimbledon, it offers something for everyone.

JustJames
07-03-2007, 02:26 PM
That's what I don't understand. The commentator called the French lazy, saying the match starts at 11am and they arrive at 1pm, but then in our own country the match starts at 1pm. Why can't they start in the morning?:confused:

The matches started at 11am this morning, and would have also begun at the same time yesterday if it were not for the rain..

Heavenseventeen
07-03-2007, 02:29 PM
The matches started at 11am this morning, and would have also begun at the same time yesterday if it were not for the rain..

What about last wk?

RonE
07-03-2007, 02:33 PM
Nothing beats the US Open 2003 for poor organisation, this was worse than putting a one legged man in an arse kicking contest.

:haha:

Truer words were never spoken.

JustJames
07-03-2007, 02:36 PM
What about last wk?

For all the organisers knew [due to the unpredictability of English weather at this time of the year] this week may have been a lot drier than the previous, so what motivation would they have had when the schedule was as disrupted as it has been in many years previous..

Obviously with the rain continuing into this week it makes the situation a whole lot different, so therefore the 11am starts...

thegre8w0n
07-03-2007, 02:41 PM
Why are they playing the Women's fourth round before the Men's third round is done? Also why do they have 2nd round Mixed Doubles on the court right now when half of the 1st round hasn't been played. Not to mention they could of had 7 hours of play on Sunday. I think a five year old can run this tournament better then who ever is running it now.

Polikarpov
07-03-2007, 02:45 PM
If you're going to rant about something, would you be kind enough to put in your own suggestions on how to improve the things you've mentioned?

rod99
07-03-2007, 02:54 PM
If you're going to rant about something, would you be kind enough to put in your own suggestions on how to improve the things you've mentioned?

ok:
1) play on all courts and on all days (regardless of weather) should start at 11 am. 1 pm is ridiculous and puts the players scheduled last at a disadvantage b/c they never know if they're going to play that day due to constant rain delays.
2) if wimbledon wants to honor tradition, appease residents, appease club members, allow the grass to grow, etc etc then fine, don't play on the middle sunday if matches are on schedule going into the middle sunday. however, if matches are backed up and the upcoming forecast looks bad (as was the case on Sunday) then you have to play a full schedule on the middle Sunday. the players' concerns should come before residents and club members.
3) why are they playing women's 4th round matches b/f men's 3rd round matches on Tuesday? that should never, ever happen.
4) i don't understand why it's taking more than 2 years to complete this roof. that thing should be completed in 1 year max. are the workers lazy? this should have been done years ago.

if wimbledon wants to maintain its image as the most important tournament (in my opinion, it's my least favorite of the 4 slams)then it needs to put the players' needs before anything else, including tradition.

Action Jackson
07-03-2007, 02:56 PM
Best of 5 sets for mens doubles should be eliminated for all rounds, except for the final.

Heavenseventeen
07-03-2007, 03:03 PM
ok:
1) play on all courts and on all days (regardless of weather) should start at 11 am. 1 pm is ridiculous and puts the players scheduled last at a disadvantage b/c they never know if they're going to play that day due to constant rain delays.
2) if wimbledon wants to honor tradition, appease residents, appease club members, allow the grass to grow, etc etc then fine, don't play on the middle sunday if matches are backed up. however, if matches are backed up and the upcoming forecast looks bad (as was the case on Sunday) then you have to play a full schedule on the middle Sunday. the players' concerns should come before residents and club members.
3) why are they playing women's 4th round matches b/f men's 3rd round matches on Tuesday? that should never, ever happen.
4) i don't understand why it's taking more than 2 years to complete this roof. that thing should be completed in 1 year max. are the workers lazy? this should have been done years ago.

if wimbledon wants to maintain its image as the most important tournament (in my opinion, it's my least favorite of the 4 slams)then it needs to put the players' needs before anything else, including tradition.

I agree 100%. They've had weather reports that the weather would be wet this Wimbledon, so start at 11am from the first week. Don't risk going off schedule by only starting early in the second wk.

I don't know where you come from, but in the UK, we never seem to be able to build on schedule. Look at Wembley Stadium for example. I wouldn't be surprised if they ran late for the Olympics too. That way we can be embarrassed in front of the whole world again.:rolleyes:

JustJames
07-03-2007, 03:09 PM
I agree 100%. They've had weather reports that the weather would be wet this Wimbledon, so start at 11am from the first week. Don't risk going off schedule by only starting early in the second wk.

I don't know where you come from, but in the UK, we never seem to be able to build on schedule. Look at Wembley Stadium for example. I wouldn't be surprised if they ran late for the Olympics too. That way we can be embarrassed in front of the whole world again.:rolleyes:

Don't compare the the F.A with the LTA, they're two completely different un-connected organisations. Also, the National tennis centre was completed on time and on budget, and regardless of whether you think the roof is taking too long, it is still on 'schedule'..they have never promised it any earlier.

nobama
07-03-2007, 03:28 PM
Yes because of the heavy favouritism they showed certain players with regards to the schedule :rolleyes:

And as someone mentioned before, why not use a tarpaulin of some kind to cover the court instead of using blowdryers to dry it after a rain delay as that holds up match play even longer :smash:
I thought covers on hardcourt would not work because the courts would get wet anyway (due to humidity)? :shrug: I can't imagine if they could cover the courts at USO they would purposely chose not to.

ASP0315
07-03-2007, 03:31 PM
i agree
ITF should ban this event until they remove these damn traditions and organize things properly. Really worst organized slam and event in tennis.

Julio1974
07-03-2007, 03:36 PM
Scheduling is probably the only serious problem.

I agree. They can't do anything about the weather but the way they schedule the matches is just stupid (at least, this year).

AndyUK
07-03-2007, 03:47 PM
Laughable topic. The scheduling is bad, that's all. The US Open and the French Open don't have roofs either. It rains worse here, but no-one can do anything about it.

I would like them to play on the middle Sunday, but the grass does need a rest at some time.

Plus, they couldn't just put the Sunday on stand-by for the week. Why would people buy tickets for a Sunday when they're not guarenteed any tennis?

Tommy_Vercetti
07-03-2007, 03:54 PM
Eurotrash still on about the 2003 US Open?

I didn't know that they chose not to play on certain days and waited until 1pm to start.

dmit424
07-03-2007, 03:56 PM
Well, it's less about preparation and more about tradition. If they are going to hang on to their traditions and make it the "pleasant" and "organic" tournament, there is only so much they can do besides make the draws and call the players out to play when the weather permits.

CassL
07-03-2007, 04:09 PM
Why the hell did they put up the women's 4th round before the 3rd round of men's matches had even finished?:mad: Now, Nole and Rafa aren't even going to get on the court today.

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-03-2007, 04:11 PM
Why the hell did they put up the women's 4th round before the 3rd round of men's matches had even finished?:mad: Now, Nole and Rafa aren't even going to get on the court today.

The English are idiots.

Wimbledon is run by children with no logic.

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-03-2007, 04:12 PM
i agree
ITF should ban this event until they remove these damn traditions and organize things properly. Really worst organized slam and event in tennis.

Great Post.

Their traditions dont even make any sense.

ae wowww
07-03-2007, 04:16 PM
1. Unless you think the wimbly officials are gods you can't exactly expect them to control the weather. It rains in England, get over it.
This has been the wettest june since 1914, theres been terrible flooding over all england and places have had to be evacuated cause the reseviors are literally full to bursting. Just be gratefull the entire thing wasn't flooded out.

2. The roofs are on the way, they are extremely expensive and are a logistical nightmare, except for the aussie open and the indoors no other tournaments have roofs. Are they, by your logic, all craply organised?

3. why should they have lights? they don't do night matches here. It would be too cold.

4. The middle sunday is not kept free due to staffing payments. Its kept free because the grass needs to be tended. It needs to be waterd fertilised and left for one day without being cut to reduce the damage. It astonishes me that people complain about the grass slowing down and being practiaclly clay yet when the officials try to do something about everybody complains!!

5. This is london, mate, theirs never enough parking cause thier simply isn't space for it!

:yeah: Word.

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-03-2007, 04:20 PM
:yeah: Word.

And your explanation for playing the womens 4th round before the mens 3rd round?

It is their stupidity and love with their asinine traditions that ruins this tournament.

gillian
07-03-2007, 04:28 PM
I thought after Day 1, play started at 11:00 a.m.

Do they really start each match day at 1:00 p.m.? Seems silly.

Raquel
07-03-2007, 05:20 PM
I thought after Day 1, play started at 11:00 a.m.

Do they really start each match day at 1:00 p.m.? Seems silly.No,they have been starting at 11am when they need to at least. The weather's just been bad this year, although this thunder storm now might clear the air a bit at least. The only thing this year that's really beyond belief is starting those 4R women's matches ahead of unfinished men's 3rd rounds. That's not a tradition written somewhere saying they have to do that. That was this new referee's ultimate decision and a totally crazy one.

gillian
07-03-2007, 05:35 PM
No,they have been starting at 11am when they need to at least. The weather's just been bad this year, although this thunder storm now might clear the air a bit at least. The only thing this year that's really beyond belief is starting those 4R women's matches ahead of unfinished men's 3rd rounds. That's not a tradition written somewhere saying they have to do that. That was this new referee's ultimate decision and a totally crazy one.

That does seem counterintuitive.

AndyUK
07-03-2007, 05:37 PM
And your explanation for playing the womens 4th round before the mens 3rd round?

It is their stupidity and love with their asinine traditions that ruins this tournament.

You talk about the third round matches being played after the fourth round matches. Sure, that's something I think is stupid. But that has nothing to do with tradition, so your comment after that makes no sense.

The only rule that we have that is to do with tradition that makes a difference is the fact that the middle Sunday has no tennis. I don't like it either, but you know...

ezekiel
07-03-2007, 06:10 PM
the reason women play earlier is because their final is a day earlier

mdhallu
07-03-2007, 06:24 PM
They don't play on Sunday because the grass needs rest...haha The groundskeepers can tend to the grass at night with the help of lights and workers. All these stupid excuses...

Raquel
07-03-2007, 06:27 PM
the reason women play earlier is because their final is a day earlier
In a perfect schedule that would work, but if you know it's going to be raining at time you should utilise what time you do have. Alan Mills the old referee was better at that. He had Martina Navratilova play out on something like Court 15 when she was like a 4 time defending champion because he knew he had a certain amount of time to get matches through. I know it's not ideal but those women's matches could have been played at the same time this morning on smaller courts.

Oj-Ala
07-03-2007, 06:29 PM
Definetely it is.... :o

Im so bored with this tournament.... Roofs... lights....

Ridiculous traditions like "all white", no play on sunday...

Shit

bjurra
07-03-2007, 06:33 PM
All of you defending Wimbledon dont know what you are talking about. Of course the organizors can't do anything about the weather but here are some easy steps to improve the tournament:

1. The reason people have to queue for so many hours is simply because the queueing system is idiocy. It would be very easy to let in people faster, would they care about peoples' comfort.

2. Once inside, it is terribly overcrowded. There is plenty of space for larger bleachers and the stands of court 2, 3 and 13 should have been improved a long time ago but improvement means change and change is unwanted.

3. Apart from the big screen at Henman Hill, there are no big screens or TV monitors showing the matches anywhere in the entire tournament. Even small ATP events are better in this aspect.

4. Selection of food is really poor, a lot worse than other Slams. London isn't exactly lacking good catering firms but I guess it's all about avoiding change. The food in the players' restaurant is poor too. (agree with Safin here...)

5. Having seen the forecast, they should have decided to play on Sunday. The grass recovery argument simply doesnt cut it as the grass has plenty of time to recover during all the delays. Furthermore, I think you all agree with me if I say that playing the final on poor grass on Sunday with rested players is better than having the players play consecutive matches Fri-Sun on better grass.

6. Starting 1pm durng the first week despite the decision not to play Sunday is incredibly ignorant.

7. Not cutting the mens' doubles to best out of 3 is ignorant.

8. Starting 4th round matches before resuming 3rd round matches is ignorant. I know standard procedure is to place a interrupted match as match nu 2 on the same court the next day but this would have been an excellent opportunity to scrap that rule.

Jaap
07-03-2007, 06:37 PM
What a load of whining mugs on this thread. :rolleyes:

It rains, get over it! Welcome to England. There have been far more bigger consequences out of the rain in England in the last 2 weeks.....people dying, left without homes, much financial ruin.

Wojtek
07-03-2007, 06:38 PM
wimbledon had and has shitty schedule. Nothing has change - the worst GS

Leopold Stotch
07-03-2007, 06:48 PM
Wimbledon is a disgrace to tennis.
Grass requires a different set of skills, strategy and physical preparation to other surfaces. Variety is not a bad thing but all that is ruined by the constant rain interruptions which have rendered this years tournament a complete shambles. Federer was in QF 2 days ago while today Novak is still trying to complete his 3R match.

Still... you can't blame the organizers for the weather apart from the wiseguy that had the forcast in front of him but still didn't allow play on Sunday.

the graduate
07-03-2007, 06:48 PM
australian open is the best,the fans are great except for the rotten apples that were fighting at the beginning this yr.the atmosphere is festive its like playing at a holiday resort.this european weather is depressing and dreary and some players at this point will just tank their matches just to get away.

nobama
07-03-2007, 06:52 PM
What a load of whining mugs on this thread. :rolleyes:

It rains, get over it! Welcome to England. There have been far more bigger consequences out of the rain in England in the last 2 weeks.....people dying, left without homes, much financial ruin.When you think about the destruction this rain really has caused Wimbledon finishing on time or players having to play several days in a row seems inconsequential. These rain delays are very annyoing, but as you say a lot worse things have happened because of all this rain.

federated
07-03-2007, 06:57 PM
I think this year in particular has been ridiculous. I mean, anyone could see that the forecast was for lots and lots of rain. And yet last week they insisted on starting matches on centre court and court 1 and 1pm. That was the first ludicrosity. Then skipping sunday play despite the clear bad forecast for this week. And finally, scheduling unfinished 3rd round men's matches AFTER 4th round women's matches. Yeah, the weather can't be helped but this perfect storm could have been avoided quite easily.

ilostmymarbles
07-03-2007, 06:58 PM
They don't play on Sunday because the grass needs rest...haha The groundskeepers can tend to the grass at night with the help of lights and workers. All these stupid excuses...

what bit of 'not cutting the grass for one day' did you not get? The grass is cut every morning, even if thiers a rain delay, the grass needs a day without being cut!
For those who say its better to play on bad grass then late. Just how many threads do you think would pop up along the lines of 'look of the state of that grass.. its practically clay, discracefull.. the worst slam etc..' do you think would pop up if they did play the middle sunday?
Can i just restate for the record that the middle sunday is not a tradition is a practicality that people think is a tradition cause they havn't turned thier brain on and actually thought about it.
Plus, this year it makes even more sense this year to not play the sunday becuase they had to have time restructure the entry system thanks to the attacks
.
the womens 4th rounds are played before the mens 3rd because thier final is a day before the mens. As someone said before 'duh'.

For those who say they should have they should have had the roof done in 1 year has obvioulsy never worked as a builder nor had to deal with england planning offices (boo hiss) who are beurocracy nightmare central and porbably make it as difficult as possible for the tournament to do big changes. Putting a roof on an old structure such as centre court is very difficult, the whole thing probably had to be underpinned/restructured so it could take the weight of the roof before they even start putting the roof in place.

Wimbledon is constantly being improved, for the last few years they've been redoing the players facilities, (which i've heard were terrible at one point, especially the mens locker room), and the media facilites (putting in new imstantanious communications rahter than the old 'runner system' and completely redoing the TV facilites like putting cameras on all the courts etc),which personally i think is more important than ignoring the players to cater to a few picky fans.

Finally the queueing system is slow, especially this year, for safty's sake, you know, terrorists..bombing.. the attack on the airport last week...

Action Jackson
07-03-2007, 06:59 PM
What a load of whining mugs on this thread. :rolleyes:

It rains, get over it! Welcome to England. There have been far more bigger consequences out of the rain in England in the last 2 weeks.....people dying, left without homes, much financial ruin.

A post that didn't involve alleged match fixing, you are doing well.

Leopold Stotch
07-03-2007, 07:03 PM
australian open is the best,the fans are great except for the rotten apples that were fighting at the beginning this yr.the atmosphere is festive its like playing at a holiday resort.this european weather is depressing and dreary and some players at this point will just tank their matches just to get away.
The AO has too many absentees that can't be arsed to make the trip at the beginnibg of the New Year. It's also way too hot. I prefer "dreary" Europe anyday.

Action Jackson
07-03-2007, 07:05 PM
The AO has too many absentees that can't be arsed to make the trip at the beginnibg of the New Year. It's also way too hot. I prefer "dreary" Europe anyday.

It's not 1980 anymore in concern with the AO.

azinna
07-03-2007, 07:07 PM
... you can't blame the organizers for the weather apart from the wiseguy that had the forcast in front of him but still didn't allow play on Sunday.

Well, Ian Richards is coming on to ESPN2 to talk about the scheduling issues.....

Andy Andy
07-03-2007, 07:25 PM
TENNIS DESERVES BETTER THAN THIS GARBAGE
You shouldn't have pushed the Q-tip when you met resistance:rolleyes:
1. It rains every day
Who can blame the ways of nature? Wlcome to the Muddy Patch in the middle of the Irish Sea.
2. There are no roofs
There is one that is being built that will enable play on the Centre Court for as long as i takes to advance in the schedule of play. Coming up in 2009.
3. No lights
In Europe, during summer, sunlight lasts up to 21-22h (sometimes if you are lucky up to 23h) That's hy there is no need for Roland Garros and Wimbledon to have lights.
4. No play during sunny sundays because they don't want to pay employees
Could you at least get your facts right? They don't play on Sundays because Wimbledon is situated in posh Surburb and the locals there want to have their Sunday's without commotion and have some quiet, because they have a very noisy week. Even that's being very selfish of them consdering that it's only 2 weeks out of 52, there is nothing you can do to change it when the locals are totally against play on middle Sunday. After all we don't want protests do we?
5. Not enough parking
If the locals can't accet play on middle Sunday you think they will allow further demolition of the beautiful view in order for sme more cars to bring noise and air pollution. Don't see that happening.

It's nice of you to put your arguments neatly arranged by numbers, but next time could you be more rational instead of these pointless irrational rants.

bjurra
07-03-2007, 07:38 PM
what bit of 'not cutting the grass for one day' did you not get? The grass is cut every morning, even if thiers a rain delay, the grass needs a day without being cut!
For those who say its better to play on bad grass then late. Just how many threads do you think would pop up along the lines of 'look of the state of that grass.. its practically clay, discracefull.. the worst slam etc..' do you think would pop up if they did play the middle sunday?
Can i just restate for the record that the middle sunday is not a tradition is a practicality that people think is a tradition cause they havn't turned thier brain on and actually thought about it.
Plus, this year it makes even more sense this year to not play the sunday becuase they had to have time restructure the entry system thanks to the attacks
.
the womens 4th rounds are played before the mens 3rd because thier final is a day before the mens. As someone said before 'duh'.

For those who say they should have they should have had the roof done in 1 year has obvioulsy never worked as a builder nor had to deal with england planning offices (boo hiss) who are beurocracy nightmare central and porbably make it as difficult as possible for the tournament to do big changes. Putting a roof on an old structure such as centre court is very difficult, the whole thing probably had to be underpinned/restructured so it could take the weight of the roof before they even start putting the roof in place.

Wimbledon is constantly being improved, for the last few years they've been redoing the players facilities, (which i've heard were terrible at one point, especially the mens locker room), and the media facilites (putting in new imstantanious communications rahter than the old 'runner system' and completely redoing the TV facilites like putting cameras on all the courts etc),which personally i think is more important than ignoring the players to cater to a few picky fans.

Finally the queueing system is slow, especially this year, for safty's sake, you know, terrorists..bombing.. the attack on the airport last week...

1. The courts looked fine to me back in 2004. It's all a matter of priority.

2. They should have decided to play Sunday before the attacks.

3. The queuing system has been slow and ineffecient since I first went in 2000. It is probably even slower now but dont blame the problem purely on terrorists.

4. The fact that womens' final is scheduled for Saturday is a good reason for putting womens' 4th round before mens' third round? You cannot be serious!

CmonAussie
07-03-2007, 07:41 PM
The AO has too many absentees that can't be arsed to make the trip at the beginnibg of the New Year. It's also way too hot. I prefer "dreary" Europe anyday.


:rolleyes:
The last time AO had an absentee by choice [ie. a healthy player who couldn`t be arsed]->> was Agassi in 1994;)

So 13-years without an absentee:p ,what exactly is your point again:confused: :confused:

Conita
07-03-2007, 07:49 PM
mm as much as i understand the annoyance of people because of delays,
in the past 3 weeks the uk has been bombarded with much bigger problems than rain delays, someone was moaning about the ques well we are at the highest alert for terrorism at the moment, don't know about you but i rather que for hrs and be safe.
the sunday rule seems a bit of a joke but it wouldn't make much of a difference considering the weather has been awfull, on monday london had more rain that it did in the whole of july last year.
i don't think they expected the rain to be as bad as it has been. i don't mean just wimby organizers but everyone else, which is probably why it has caused a lot of chaos accross the uk.

ilostmymarbles
07-03-2007, 07:58 PM
1. The courts looked fine to me back in 2004. It's all a matter of priority.

2. They should have decided to play Sunday before the attacks.

3. The queuing system has been slow and ineffecient since I first went in 2000. It is probably even slower now but dont blame the problem purely on terrorists.

4. The fact that womens' final is scheduled for Saturday is a good reason for putting womens' 4th round before mens' third round? You cannot be serious!

Even if they had decided to play sunday before the attacks they would have had to retract it so they could put the security in place. On normal years thiers enough complaint about the grass being slow without adding to it by ahving badly prepared courts.

As for the queues, well its a lot of people trying to get into a very little place and get hold of very rare tickets. Of course thiers going to be a queue. get over it.

Well, for someone who doesn't automatically put mens tennis above womens tennis but likes both equally then yeah it does make sense. Could you imagine the uproar thiere would have been in the womens tennis forums if they had put them the other way round.
Or if you wnat to see it in a more favourable light, the womens matches are shorter and so putting them early gets them out the way so the mens can be on in the prime slots when the crowds are at thier largest.

bjurra
07-03-2007, 08:03 PM
mm as much as i understand the annoyance of people because of delays,
in the past 3 weeks the uk has been bombarded with much bigger problems than rain delays, someone was moaning about the ques well we are at the highest alert for terrorism at the moment, don't know about you but i rather que for hrs and be safe.
the sunday rule seems a bit of a joke but it wouldn't make much of a difference considering the weather has been awfull, on monday london had more rain that it did in the whole of july last year.
i don't think they expected the rain to be as bad as it has been. i don't mean just wimby organizers but everyone else, which is probably why it has caused a lot of chaos accross the uk.

1. I complained about the queuing system for the past 7 years, nothing terrorist-related. Also remember that there was no security alert when the tourament started.

2. Play on Sunday would have made an enourmous difference. Claiming anything else is just plain stupid.

3. The 10-day weather forecast before Wimby started was far from promising. Saying that the tournament has been caught by surprise
simply isn't true.

belco
07-03-2007, 08:03 PM
australian open is the best,the fans are great except for the rotten apples that were fighting at the beginning this yr.the atmosphere is festive its like playing at a holiday resort.this european weather is depressing and dreary and some players at this point will just tank their matches just to get away.


:tape: :tape: :tape: :tape:

bjurra
07-03-2007, 08:07 PM
I am not complaining about the presence of queues. I am complaining about the ineffeciency of the queuing system. Surely it can't be that hard to tell the difference?

Conita
07-03-2007, 08:09 PM
1. I complained about the queuing system for the past 7 years, nothing terrorist-related. Also remember that there was no security alert when the tourament started.

2. Play on Sunday would have made an enourmous difference. Claiming anything else is just plain stupid.

3. The 10-day weather forecast before Wimby started was far from promising. Saying that the tournament has been caught by surprise
simply isn't true.

1. this year it's worst than ever.

2. it still rained a bit on sunday...

3. i didn't say they didn't know about the rain, everyone did, all i said is that they didn't expect it to be as bad as it has been! hundreds of schools have shut down, entire villages were evacuated and also some people have died because of the rain. If we had expected it to be as bad as it has been many other things would have been avoided.

TMJordan
07-03-2007, 08:10 PM
Simple answer to this thread:

Yes.

16681
07-03-2007, 08:13 PM
I have to admit that Wimbledon was never my favorite Tournament anyway. But when they really turned me off was when they went from calling it The Championships at Wimbledon to Wimbledon The Championships. Like that is the only place in the world that has Championships :eek:

Allstar
07-03-2007, 08:50 PM
The organisation on the ground is actually very good and organised. It's upstairs where it's turned into a disaster. Some of the decisions about play times and pulling players off court (not even the sunday decision) have been terrible this year

seven
07-03-2007, 09:58 PM
My question is, why is it taking them so long to build a roof:confused:
Australia has roofs on both their main courts for years, I mean, how many millimeters will they be able to build a year? 2? So maybe in 20 years they´ll have half of the roof, so when it starts raining they can keep playing on half of the court:o
Don´t they have any lights, coz it gets to slippy later in the evening anyway?

seven
07-03-2007, 10:03 PM
And why do they start at noon on the center courts tomorrow?:eek:
I´m sorry, but this is:smash:

Heavenseventeen
07-03-2007, 10:08 PM
They don't play on Sunday because the grass needs rest...haha The groundskeepers can tend to the grass at night with the help of lights and workers. All these stupid excuses...

Exactly what I said today. Why stop cutting the grass to give the grass time to grow to cut the grass again? Does grass grow that quickly in one day, or is it only that fast on Sunday?:o The precious grass has time to rest in between matches and at night and during rain delays. Even when the players are on court, they don't step on every single section of the court at the same time.:rolleyes:

ilostmymarbles
07-03-2007, 10:12 PM
My question is, why is it taking them so long to build a roof:confused:
Australia has roofs on both their main courts for years, I mean, how many millimeters will they be able to build a year? 2? So maybe in 20 years they´ll have half of the roof, so when it starts raining they can keep playing on half of the court:o
Don´t they have any lights, coz it gets to slippy later in the evening anyway?

I dont know when Wimbledon applied for the planning permission for the roof but i can guarantee that the planning office would have taken years to process and approve something as big as that. The planning office is quite possible the most beurocratic place in the world.
Theirs going to have a roof in 2009, the reason its going to take so long is because the entire court has to be rebuilt/refitted so it can support the weight of a roof before the roof can even begin to be added. This takes time. In this world of instantainous communication and 'fast just about everything' they forget that sometimes things take time!

Thiers little to no point in having lights on the courts, its simply not possible to play at night in the UK, or in most of western europe full stop. For one it just gets way to cold, no matter how warm the days are it always gets cold at night and with how cold it is in the day atm it would be freezing at night. Second there's the dew that comes down every night, especailly how wet it is at the moment which would make the courts slick and wet. And finally theres the damage the direct heat from the lights would have on the grass, they would fry it.

Geniey2g
07-03-2007, 11:40 PM
what bothers me most is that Wimbledon is supposed to be the most prestigious/highest tournament in Tennis but it is so backwards...i dont care about all the BS about logistics and how difficult it is to build a roof...Wimbledon is a rich tennis club they can afford to make changes. These changes should have been made 20 years ago. As a tennis fan i hate having to wait by my TV hoping whether a match will take place...this year is no different than other years...EVERY WIMBLEDON I HAVE EVER SEEN IS RUINED BY RAIN DELAYS

I find myself agreeing with an American :scared:

Merton
07-04-2007, 02:15 AM
There are much worse events out there, but at this moment I cannot think of one.

ezekiel
07-04-2007, 03:15 AM
I dont know when Wimbledon applied for the planning permission for the roof but i can guarantee that the planning office would have taken years to process and approve something as big as that. The planning office is quite possible the most beurocratic place in the world.
Theirs going to have a roof in 2009, the reason its going to take so long is because the entire court has to be rebuilt/refitted so it can support the weight of a roof before the roof can even begin to be added. This takes time. In this world of instantainous communication and 'fast just about everything' they forget that sometimes things take time!

Thiers little to no point in having lights on the courts, its simply not possible to play at night in the UK, or in most of western europe full stop. For one it just gets way to cold, no matter how warm the days are it always gets cold at night and with how cold it is in the day atm it would be freezing at night. Second there's the dew that comes down every night, especailly how wet it is at the moment which would make the courts slick and wet. And finally theres the damage the direct heat from the lights would have on the grass, they would fry it.

There are lights in Canadian tournament and it gets really chilly here no matter what time of year but London has that maritime climate where temperatures are never too high or too low so i don't see any point in it being "cold"

Magical Trevor
07-04-2007, 03:29 AM
I'd say that this is nothing compared to the cricket world cup this year in terms of failure.

But this has been a really frustrating tournament. I stayed up til 4am thinking I might see the conclusion of the Nadal - Soderling match

Lucinda
07-04-2007, 05:12 AM
Well we can at least thank God that they got at least some juniors matches in before the rains suspended play once again. We wouldn't want those juniors to have to delay their scheduled matches - can you just imagine!!!

World Beater
07-04-2007, 05:51 AM
wimbledon is by far the most infuriating slam event to watch. Every year it rains on schedule and there is certainly an elitist attitude that is evident in the decisions made by the highly intransigent management. The fans are the best part, as wimbledon is always full no matter the stage of the tournament. espn coverage is horrendous.

usopen can be equally bad in the way the tournament is managed but IT is a more exciting event for the fan. The tv coverage in america is fabulous and the atmosphere in the stadiums is unmatched.

monicain
07-04-2007, 06:58 AM
Rain delay could be really frustrating, but if you look on the bright side you can watch all the matches played before the rain halt from almost every courts, which would be impossible normally.

Skipping plays on Middle Sunday, whatever reasons, offers me a chance to take a break between two-week of 4-hour-a-night sleeping (as it ends around 01h00, or, as the case on Friday night with Federer v Safin, 02h30, local time here in Thailand--and I work at 06h00 in the morning, for that matter!) and I got my much-needed sleep, much-craved fine dining, and also some much-inspired tennis hits.

Obviously some people need to learn the word 'patience'. Cool down a little. Not everything is labelled 'Easy and quick. Tastes like original!' as do American can labels. Surely if I can keep my mouth shut tolerating an oh-so-cool concrete event amidst freakingly noisy rubbish music and poor showcourt selection based purely on Americanism at Flushing Meadows, you can try to tolerate one in SW19 as do millions people out there.

I'm disappointed enough with the abolition of bow and courtsey. Now we have American-football-styled challenges. Soon the roof. What's next? (Did you read Etienne de Villiers' interview?: 'We tried hard to have Wimbledon go hard court. But they, believe it or not, wouldn't buy it.' How scary!)

megadeth
07-04-2007, 07:51 AM
i'd rather have all that than risk my life watching a soccer game live where fans can start riots anytime...

ilostmymarbles
07-04-2007, 10:33 AM
There are lights in Canadian tournament and it gets really chilly here no matter what time of year but London has that maritime climate where temperatures are never too high or too low so i don't see any point in it being "cold"

I can see you logic here but you've obviously never been out in england whne its cold. I've lived in far colder countries than here, like in new zealand where theirs several foot of snow each year but i can tell you i felt far warmer thier than here when it gets cold.

And i can give you an explanaition why too.

It's becuase, as you rightly pointed out it's a 'maritime' climate here and that means a wet one. It also means when it gets cold its a horrid damp coldness that goes right through your clothing and makes you feel freezing especially when you add the wind on top. As apposed to the reletivly 'dry cold' of snow and non-maritime climates where, yes it is technically colder but you cna simply add layers to warm up.

Imagine, if you will, the differenece between the humid heat of sydny and the much drier heat of a desert. Personally, i love the dry heat and simply cannot cope with humid heat.
This also happnens with cold, you can have a 'humid' cold and a 'dry' one. Thats why england tends to get an awful lot of fog and mist as well.

I severly doubt the players would be at all happy if they were asked to play in the weather we have at night.

Action Jackson
07-04-2007, 10:37 AM
Playing on grass at night won't work cause of the dew which will make the surface dangerous and do we want players having to wear studs or spikes.

nobama
07-04-2007, 01:36 PM
Apparently there's a waiting list of matches that could be played late in the day if they get through the schedule quickly. But how can they possibly schedule a mens QF when the bottom half hasn't played their 4th round yet? Davydenko/Baghdatis, Bjorkman/Berdych certainly should have priority since they didn't have to finish matches today. :confused:

www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/articles/2007-07-04/200707041183540370046.html

1.10 pm: Krajicek – Bartoli out on court as well. Kim asks whether Federer-Ferrero will play today – possible. We won’t know who will be added in until later, but as soon as I know, I’ll let you know. Ooh, Venus wins the (rest of) the opening game.

12.56 pm: Don’t forget, there are a number of matches on a waiting list should we get through a number of ties early, so don’t panic when you look at the schedule. Rafa won’t have to play a second time, though.

And ...

11.15 am: Daniel is asking about when Amelie Mauresmo started. I remember her suddenly bursting onto the scene at the 1999 Australian Open, where she lost in the final to Martina Hingis after coming out of nowhere to beat Lindsay Davenport. She’s been top 10 or thereabouts since then.

Will Roger be too rusty? asks Vincent from France. Mais non, mon ami ! He’ll have been practising and he may well be up tonight if we can get through a few matches today. And yes, the Frenchies are doing well, which I’m pleased about too, if only to listen to “Ritchie” Gasquet’s southern accent in press conferences.

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-04-2007, 02:24 PM
I'm disappointed enough with the abolition of bow and courtsey. Now we have American-football-styled challenges. Soon the roof.

Are you 24 or 80?

You want the players bowing. Thats the stupidest thing in the world. Bowing to some people who have no skills and were just born into their position. Monarchy anywhere is pointless and an economic and social waste.

Come into the 21st century dinosaur. Wimbledon doesnt want to stay old and obselete like you.

Geniey2g
07-04-2007, 11:51 PM
Are you 24 or 80?

You want the players bowing. Thats the stupidest thing in the world. Bowing to some people who have no skills and were just born into their position. Monarchy anywhere is pointless and an economic and social waste.

Come into the 21st century dinosaur. Wimbledon doesnt want to stay old and obselete like you.
Is there somewhere I can nominate you for "Best Poster Ever"?