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WImbledon commits the greatest stupidity-ok one of many!

case
07-02-2007, 07:46 PM
ok so not playing sunday is till probably the worst, dumbest thing wimbledon did.
but considering recent weather events this has to make them look almost fraudulent
how did that very old song go-sunshine lollipops and rainbows everything!

heres the link for those of you that haven't gotten around to making your computer wimbledon happy!
http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/interactive/wallpaper/

Scotso
07-02-2007, 07:49 PM
Allowing two 4th round women's matches to be played before the men completed their 3rd round matches was insanity. Brad Gilbert was right for once, the men should have all been first on, they play best of 5 matches and it's more important for them not to get too far behind.

It's stupid that two women are in the quarterfinals when many of the men haven't even finished their 3rd round matches yet.

thegre8w0n
07-02-2007, 07:55 PM
Allowing two 4th round women's matches to be played before the men completed their 3rd round matches was insanity. Brad Gilbert was right for once, the men should have all been first on, they play best of 5 matches and it's more important for them not to get too far behind.

It's stupid that two women are in the quarterfinals when many of the men haven't even finished their 3rd round matches yet.

The rain is back meaning that going into Tuesday of the second week and Nadal, Hewitt, Davydenko, and Djokovic have yet to finish their third round matches. While Serena, Henin, and Krajicek are in the Quarter Finals already. Not to mention there is still one more Men's doubles 1st round that hasn't been played and Mixed Doubles are in the first round still. Would it of hurt if Sunday was dedicated to finishing Men's 3rd round, and getting all doubles into the round of 16.

azinna
07-02-2007, 08:02 PM
It was a rather :retard: decision. I'd like for whoever was in charge to come out and answer some questions as to what they were :scratch:-ing. Surely they couldn't possibly answer by saying they simply wanted to follow tradition.....

thegre8w0n
07-02-2007, 08:09 PM
It was a rather :retard: decision. I'd like for whoever was in charge to come out and answer some questions as to what they were :scratch:-ing. Surely they couldn't possibly answer by saying they simply wanted to follow tradition.....

I'm so sick of hearing tradition is the reason. If they were so into tradition they wouldn't be building a roof and they wouldn't have hawkeye. There has got to be point where that is not an excuse anymore. They had a beautiful day yesterday and you are right I would like to know the reason why they didn't play. Poor Nadal if he can get through the 5th set tomorrow will have to play 5 matches in 6 days. I think they are going to have to push the tourament back to Monday and maybe moving the doubles starting in the round of 16 to best of 5.

Scotso
07-02-2007, 08:15 PM
I also think it's amazing that Davydenko didn't get on to finish his match... I mean, they came back for over an hour, but he never made it back on court. That's ridiculous. The first court they got ready for center... where they were playing 4th round matches. :retard:

nanoman
07-02-2007, 08:25 PM
I also think it's amazing that Davydenko didn't get on to finish his match... I mean, they came back for over an hour, but he never made it back on court. That's ridiculous. The first court they got ready for center... where they were playing 4th round matches. :retard:

Yeah, couldn't they send Davy and Monfils into just any other court. I am sure not all the courts were used.

Tommy_Vercetti
07-02-2007, 08:25 PM
I'm surprised they didn't find some way to get a Brit to take Haas's place.

Some old rule from the turn of the century.

thegre8w0n
07-02-2007, 08:42 PM
"9.27 pm: Evening all – still out there? The schedule for tomorrow has yet to be released, but to reassure Erica from Kansas City, players won’t have to play twice in one day. Tomorrow, the last four men’s third round ties will be played, the six remaining ladies’ fourth ties and some of the men’s fourth round too (Ferrero – Tipsarevic, Roddick –Mathieu and Gasquet – Tsonga).

Wednesday we’ll have the men’s fourth round from the bottom half of the draw, a couple of men’s top half quarters and the ladies’ quarters. Thursday – bottom half men’s quarters and ladies’ semis: Friday – men’s semis: Saturday is the ladies’ final and Sunday the men’s."

That means a person like Djokovic has to play at least 2 sets tomorrow, and best of 5 on Weds, Thurs, and Friday. It really isn't fair they need to move the tourament back to Monday to give the bottom half a little break. Does Federer really need to have even more of an advantage going to the final? It will be like the Ferrero-Roddick final in the US Open where Ferrero was literally gased in the final.

nobama
07-02-2007, 08:55 PM
That means a person like Djokovic has to play at least 2 sets tomorrow, and best of 5 on Weds, Thurs, and Friday. It really isn't fair they need to move the tourament back to Monday to give the bottom half a little break. Does Federer really need to have even more of an advantage going to the final? It will be like the Ferrero-Roddick final in the US Open where Ferrero was literally gased in the final.I agree with you and I think not playing on Sunday was :retard:, but Federer had no control over Haas withdrawing. Had that not happened he'd be in the same boat as all the other guys in the top half and considering it might rain tomorrow they could be really screwed too, just not as much as the bottom half.

thegre8w0n
07-02-2007, 09:11 PM
I agree with you and I think not playing on Sunday was :retard:, but Federer had no control over Haas withdrawing. Had that not happened he'd be in the same boat as all the other guys in the top half and considering it might rain tomorrow they could be really screwed too, just not as much as the bottom half.

I didn't mean it as a slap to Roger. More like that he is going to be in the final and probably win it regardless. It would be nice not to have someone dragging on the court and make it a little competitive to watch.

The schedule is out and they are once again making the Women's fourth round their priority. They have Jankovic and Bartoli playing on Court 1 before the Nadal and Soderling finale. Court 2 has Ivanovic and Petrova before the Djokovic and Kiefer finale. I thought it would make the most sense to get these guys off the court ASAP and give them some rest especially if more rain is expected tomorrow. Then again it is Wimbledon they haven't made sense all tourament.

ys
07-02-2007, 09:16 PM
Allowing two 4th round women's matches to be played before the men completed their 3rd round matches was insanity. Brad Gilbert was right for once, the men should have all been first on, they play best of 5 matches and it's more important for them not to get too far behind.

And the idiocy intensifies. They did it again. Putting the whole 4th round women's matches before men's 3rd round completion. Given that by the weather forecast they will be lucky to get a couple of hours of court time tomorrow, if any at all, they are really pushing men's third round into Wednesday, and that's given that in the Djokovic and Hewitt matches there could still be several hours of tennis to be played.. I am really impressed now..

NYCtennisfan
07-02-2007, 09:30 PM
Women can play 5 days in a row if need be as some of them do anyway on a week to week basis. They needed to get as many men's matches in as possible and they didn't.

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-02-2007, 09:30 PM
Wimbledon is a joke.

Abolish this retarded tourny already.

Scotso
07-02-2007, 09:50 PM
And the idiocy intensifies. They did it again. Putting the whole 4th round women's matches before men's 3rd round completion. Given that by the weather forecast they will be lucky to get a couple of hours of court time tomorrow, if any at all, they are really pushing men's third round into Wednesday, and that's given that in the Djokovic and Hewitt matches there could still be several hours of tennis to be played.. I am really impressed now..

Unbelievable! They even put a 4th round men's match first up, and it will be finished before the rest of the 3rd round. How can they be so stupid? This is outrageous, the players who are being dumped on like this should do something.

R.Federer
07-02-2007, 09:58 PM
That means a person like Djokovic has to play at least 2 sets tomorrow, and best of 5 on Weds, Thurs, and Friday. It really isn't fair they need to move the tourament back to Monday to give the bottom half a little break. Does Federer really need to have even more of an advantage going to the final? It will be like the Ferrero-Roddick final in the US Open where Ferrero was literally gased in the final.

I don't think big gaps like 5 days without match play in the middle of a slam is all advantage. He did not play Halle. He has played 3 grass matches in total this year. So if he wants to win, his 6th grass match of the year will be going for his 5th Wimbledon crown. It honestly does not sound all advantage unless his opponent has actually played 5 sets in each of his preceding matches, in 4 days.

thegre8w0n
07-02-2007, 09:59 PM
Wimbledon is a joke.

Abolish this retarded tourny already.

I don't know about that BUT don't talk about tradition and how Middle Sunday is a tradtion when they are building a roof and using hawkeye for line calls. Wimbledon just needs to get rid of the stupid Middle Sunday rule and get a new Tourament Director that has a brain.

thegre8w0n
07-02-2007, 10:02 PM
I don't think big gaps like 5 days without match play in the middle of a slam is all advantage. He did not play Halle. He has played 3 grass matches in total this year. So if he wants to win, his 6th grass match of the year will be going for his 5th Wimbledon crown. It honestly does not sound all advantage unless his opponent has actually played 5 sets in each of his preceding matches, in 4 days.

Its Federer and not clay I think he will be fine. I'm sure he will play a stimulated practice match to get some match play in.

The Pro
07-02-2007, 10:04 PM
Big heap stupidity putting Nadal's match on second. If there's enough rain he may have to play 2 matches in one day soon.

And with Federer in the QFs already...

Ridiculous. No wonder he had a good moan about it. Although he only has himself to blame for not closing out the match yesterday. :mad:

ys
07-02-2007, 10:17 PM
I don't think big gaps like 5 days without match play in the middle of a slam is all advantage.

Ask Roddick about how he liked it at USO 2003. I am sure he did.

Hugh Jaas
07-03-2007, 12:54 AM
Ask Roddick about how he liked it at USO 2003. I am sure he did.



No play on Sunday, White only uniform. Wimbledon should concentrate on the TENNIS not the 12343 ridiculous prehistoric slave era "traditions".

nobama
07-03-2007, 01:03 AM
Big heap stupidity putting Nadal's match on second. If there's enough rain he may have to play 2 matches in one day soon.

And with Federer in the QFs already...

Ridiculous. No wonder he had a good moan about it. Although he only has himself to blame for not closing out the match yesterday. :mad:Nadal's not the only one who will have to play two (or more) days in a row.

Scotso
07-03-2007, 01:13 AM
Nadal's not the only one who will have to play two (or more) days in a row.

I was actually going to say the same thing. Something tells me he wouldn't care how delayed people were if Nadal wasn't affected. :help:

The Pro
07-03-2007, 08:21 AM
So I don't name drop every player affected by the delays and now this?

Sod off you tards. :rolleyes:

ilostmymarbles
07-03-2007, 09:47 AM
For it hink the third time i'm going to state the actual reasons for the no play on sunday. Honestly people are so ready to simply chalk it up to tradition without looking at the practical reasons!!

So heres the truth, the sunday is taken of to take care of the courts, not because of tradition, not because of staffing but for hte courts. Ti keep them playing relativly like grass and not clay they neede to be fertilised, watered and left for one day without being cut!. The courts are cut every day to prevent bad bounces but you have to leave some time for the grass to grow slightly otherwise you'll hae nothing but dirt left at the end! People ahve been complaining enormously about how gras is slowing down and turning into clay, the officals are porbably aware of this, yet god help them if they try to do anyhing about it!

Do any of you ever think about practicalities or are you all to egar to write wimbledon of!1
Come on people, use the brains god gave you!

Experimentee
07-03-2007, 12:19 PM
They should really have completed the mens 3rd round before any 4th round matches. Its absurd.

azinna
07-03-2007, 05:54 PM
...So heres the truth, the sunday is taken of to take care of the courts, not because of tradition, not because of staffing but for hte courts. Ti keep them playing relativly like grass and not clay they neede to be fertilised, watered and left for one day without being cut!. The courts are cut every day to prevent bad bounces but you have to leave some time for the grass to grow slightly otherwise you'll hae nothing but dirt left at the end! ....

Thanks, marbles! Missed your earlier explanations. If this is the case, the officials should speak a bit more of it. Or the commentators (here in the US) should mention it a few times, that is, if they're aware of this issue at all...

And just got word that Ian Richards is coming on ESPN2 to discuss the issues...good move...a little late, but good....

ilostmymarbles
07-03-2007, 06:19 PM
No play on Sunday, White only uniform. Wimbledon should concentrate on the TENNIS not the 12343 ridiculous prehistoric slave era "traditions".

As apposed the media and sponsership driven, music during points 'show' tournaments like the US open? dont get me wrong i love the us open, the atmosphere is fantastic, but it always seemed to be more about the 'show' and the audience rather than the actual tennis.

In fact i think wimbledon is more about the tennis than money like some other tournaments becuase it doesnt allow all the ridiculous and annoying advertising everyhwhere.

Please read the pots before about no play on sunday not being a tradition cause i have no wish to repeat my self for what is, i think, the 4th time.

Thanks, marbles! Missed your earlier explanations. If this is the case, the officials should speak a bit more of it. Or the commentators (here in the US) should mention it a few times, that is, if they know they're aware of this issue at all...

Your welcome:) (love your avatar btw). I have to say it does annoy me that wimbledon doesnt explain itself, then all this confusion would be over.
Sorry if i seem a bit cranky at the moment, i just spent an entire day cleaing out my flooded sceptic tank thanks to this bloody rain and i'm in no mood to put up with people who wont use the brains they were born with:rolleyes:

azinna
07-03-2007, 06:28 PM
Ian Richards: "Organised chaos rather than panic." "We're not that far behind." "We don't play on a Sunday because we don't see the need for it. Actually we think players like the rest (for practice, etc). We were pretty much on schedule through to Friday, so we didn't see the need for it."


:scratch: :scratch:

thegre8w0n
07-03-2007, 06:32 PM
Poor poor Nadal play has been canceled for the day

case
07-03-2007, 06:35 PM
Ian Richards: "Organised chaos rather than panic." "We're not that far behind." "We don't play on a Sunday because we don't see the need for it. Actually we think players like the rest (for practice, etc). We were pretty much on schedule through to Friday, so we didn't see the need for it."


that is so lame and now today was a wash out too.

is he actually saying that they STILL dont see a need for it, that the players like this mess?. they'll never learn:rolleyes:

azinna
07-03-2007, 06:39 PM
Well, he wasn't asked to now review that decision (with 20/20 hindsight), but he did say that on Saturday he felt they weren't behind enough to schedule play on Sunday.

As for the current situation: he's saying, yes, we're backlogged, but I see us catching up quite a bit. If we get to Fri/Sat, we'll make a decision about play on Monday.

He seemed quite cheerful, quite pleasant, calm when one expected worry and overt defensiveness, reminded me a lot of my years in England; I guess he needs to have this personality trait in order to survive as executive director of Wimbledon.