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Name one thing which you dislike about tennis

Sean.J.S.
07-02-2007, 09:06 AM
I dunno if thread has been done before. The search tool is so dodgy so I couldn't tell. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I dislike the fact that you can't cheer during the point. :(

VolandriFan
07-02-2007, 09:09 AM
I dislike the fact that one player can have more strengths than the other, but the other can still win because they have a better serve.

Tom Paulman
07-02-2007, 09:15 AM
I dislike the fact that one player can have more strengths than the other, but the other can still win because they have a better serve.

co-sign

Tzar
07-02-2007, 09:17 AM
but you CAN cheer between pointss

Tzar
07-02-2007, 09:18 AM
Atp President :devil:

Ferrero Forever
07-02-2007, 09:19 AM
That the Australian Open only comes around once a year, hence Juan Carlos only comes here once a year.

lazyman
07-02-2007, 09:21 AM
rain delays

Loftra
07-02-2007, 09:29 AM
The snobby elite-culture around it

uglyamerican
07-02-2007, 09:33 AM
Combined Men's & Women's tournaments. It's tolerable at the slams.

ntorcida
07-02-2007, 09:37 AM
tradition :p

BlueSwan
07-02-2007, 09:40 AM
I dislike the fact that one player can have more strengths than the other, but the other can still win because they have a better serve.
This was exactly the reason why I went off men's tennis in the 90's and started following WTA tennis instead. Back then the serve became way too important. However, this has changed radically during the the current decade. Racket technology and slower surfaces has limited the importance of the serve. On clay and on hardcourt, the serve is no longer that dominant. Therefore I ditched WTA tennis and started following the ATP tour again a few years ago.

basil333
07-02-2007, 09:40 AM
TV Media treating the watching fans like they are idiots with their patronising comments thinking we are all thick and do not have a clue who we are watching - and the fact they force us to watch the Usual Suspects ALL the time - not letting the other 100 ATP players have any airtime on TV to allow them to become popular in the TV viewing eyes too.

TV Media - MORE variety please... if you need to find out and learn who you need to show... read MTF for some ideas... and stop patronising us...

Also hate the way that when the different player finally appears on TV that has been doing extremely well in Challengers, they diss Challengers Tournaments as if they have no importance at all..

[rant over] ;)

Cervantes
07-02-2007, 09:40 AM
lets on a netserve, they should just continue to play to speed up the game.

Farenhajt
07-02-2007, 09:55 AM
Rain delays are just awful.

Lazy umpires and linespersons who wait for a player to challenge them in order to correct their mistake and get the deserved point.

(Lets are actually OK. If the ball fell closely behind the net after the cord, the receiving player would be in an undeservedly inferior position if (s)he were to lose the point. And instead of the aces, players would practice net-cording, which would be the death of tennis as we know it.)

Action Jackson
07-02-2007, 09:57 AM
Too many things and most have been covered so far.

Corporate fuckwits who don't give a damn about the sport, but are there for their free wine and lobster and they get to see the matches, while most of the true fans don't. Yes, I understand it's a part of the sponsorship deal, but it's too much.

Mr Disney
Mr Disney

bokehlicious
07-02-2007, 10:04 AM
fangirls

Sunset of Age
07-02-2007, 10:05 AM
Corporate fuckwits who don't give a damn about the sport, but are there for their free wine and lobster and they get to see the matches, while most of the true fans don't. Yes, I understand it's a part of the sponsorship deal, but it's too much.


I second this.

Like to add: unsportive, over-patriottic 'fans' cheering for their fav when his opponent makes UEs and DFs. :mad:

LeChuck
07-02-2007, 10:05 AM
Fair-weather fans

Longshot
07-02-2007, 10:16 AM
Grunting.

ReturnWinner
07-02-2007, 10:17 AM
rain+Wimbledon organization=biggest shit in tennis

Jaap
07-02-2007, 10:18 AM
Drug cheaters such as Canas and Puerta not being given tougher penalties.

RonE
07-02-2007, 10:19 AM
I second this.

Like to add: unsportive, over-patriottic 'fans' cheering for their fav when his opponent makes UEs and DFs. :mad:

In other words you hate Davis Cup ;) :p

bokehlicious
07-02-2007, 10:19 AM
moonballing

stebs
07-02-2007, 10:26 AM
The fact that a fan of the game can bust a gut trying to get a tciket and end up with nothing while some rich clown can have a seat reserved for them and not even turn up for 90% of play.

drf716
07-02-2007, 10:30 AM
i hate being too affected by safin's losses.

Guybrush
07-02-2007, 10:52 AM
Name one thing which you dislike about tennis:

Clay! :ras:

federated
07-02-2007, 10:55 AM
the extreme elite whiteness of the culture. changing, but not fast enough.

and p-mac saying "THE DROPPAH!"

nobama
07-02-2007, 11:04 AM
moonballing

Action Jackson
07-02-2007, 11:08 AM
-Paranoid gamblers.

-Overpriced and tasteless food at venues (this can be solved easily enough).

-Idiotic fans who think if you don't like grass tennis that you are somehow a lower form of human being and not being able to accept that the differences that all the surfaces provide.

- The above who bitch about grass being slowed down and not about clay being quickened up, which links into the second part of the above point.

- Media and fans whining about a lack of personalities when they are there, but they are too short sighted to see for themselves. Then when someone doesn't give cliched answers, they complain about how arrogant they are, then when they say nothing, they criticise them.

- The structure of the ATP as an organisation meant to help the players, but it works solely for the tournament directors and against the majority of its members.

- Ion Tiriac.

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
07-02-2007, 11:16 AM
players that yell, hair under the arms, lot of stupid newbies here on mtf... the names that i added to my ignore-list jumped to the incredible amount of 36 :eek: i had no one during more than 2 years. Lot of brain injuries in GM.

Peta Pan
07-02-2007, 11:19 AM
One thing?

Um
- Players timewasting between points

ReturnWinner
07-02-2007, 11:21 AM
yeah, that is exactly your problem as your obsession with Berdych damaged it :sad:
Lot of brain injuries in GM.

ReturnWinner
07-02-2007, 11:21 AM
agree with you, i can not stand that

One thing?

Um
- Players timewasting between points

Byrd
07-02-2007, 11:33 AM
Nadal

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
07-02-2007, 11:44 AM
yeah, that is exactly your problem as your obsession with Berdych damaged it :sad:

Lots of brain injuries in GM: it was no specific attack, sorry sweetie if you feel personally offended :hug: plus i think you are more obsessed with me and my posts than me with Berdych in particular and tennis in general. I'm an hyperactive person, i do a lot of things in a day... 3-4 things at the same time, sorry to disappoint you but Berdych is only a tiny part of it. Don't worry my brain is ok. Ok back to business... match Berdych/Lee @ Wimbledon.

Sunset of Age
07-02-2007, 12:25 PM
In other words you hate Davis Cup ;) :p

Heh. Feeling like a Citizen of the *World* rather than of my country, it isn't my favourite, no. Never have I understood why people cheer for guys just because they're from their own country. I rather cheer for the players I like, who show beautiful tennis and who seem to have a nice personality - regardless of their nationality. :angel:

cmurray
07-02-2007, 12:38 PM
The fact that a fan of the game can bust a gut trying to get a tciket and end up with nothing while some rich clown can have a seat reserved for them and not even turn up for 90% of play.

This I agree with. The good seats often aren't even for SALE. They're reserved for the "important" people at some corporation. And of course, said people couldn't give two shits about the sport. They show up for the semi and the final and the rest of the week, the seats right next to the court remain empty.

ReturnWinner
07-02-2007, 12:48 PM
Why Should I feel offended:confused: My brain is completely healthy :)
Lots of brain injuries in GM: it was no specific attack, sorry sweetie if you feel personally offended :hug: .


it is very easy to guess what things you do at the same time
1-viewing pics of Berdych
2-watching videos clips of Berdych
3-reading news about Berdych
4-listening audios about Berdych


[QUOTE=
I'm an hyperactive person, i do a lot of things in a day... 3-4 things at the same time, sorry to disappoint you but Berdych is only a tiny part of it. Don't worry my brain is ok. Ok back to business... match Berdych/Lee @ Wimbledon.[/QUOTE]

ezekiel
07-02-2007, 12:52 PM
weirdos posing as fans and rain of course

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
07-02-2007, 12:54 PM
Why Should I feel offended:confused: My brain is completely healthy :)



it is very easy to guess what things you do at the same time
1-viewing pics of Berdych
2-watching videos clips of Berdych
3-reading news about Berdych
4-listening audios about Berdych


that's what i wrote before.... YOU'RE JUST OBSESSED WITH MY POSTS... sorry i don't feed the trolls, no time for that! :o .. and go where you belong... MY IGNORE LIST.

ReturnWinner
07-02-2007, 01:16 PM
am I obsessed with you by posting three or four post about you??????? :confused: o

this is the last time I post about you, psycho troll.



that's what i wrote before.... YOU'RE JUST OBSESSED WITH MY POSTS... sorry i don't feed the trolls, no time for that! :o .. and go where you belong... MY IGNORE LIST.

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
07-02-2007, 01:19 PM
am I obsessed with you by posting three or four post about you??????? :confused: o

this is the last time I post about you, psycho troll.

better so, long life. :bigwave:

StevoTG
07-02-2007, 01:38 PM
Snobbery/elitism..:mad:

W!MBLEDON
07-02-2007, 01:41 PM
rain delays, obviously;; nadal too

AcidMan
07-02-2007, 01:55 PM
Facing the truth, that your favourite player never gonna win a slam, as long as Roger plays tennis.

tripb19
07-02-2007, 01:56 PM
I don't like the speed of the courts at Wimbledon at the moment. Or the administration there in general.

MisterQ
07-02-2007, 02:12 PM
I dislike picking up balls between points.

Snowwy
07-02-2007, 02:16 PM
Tha fact that the US media will ONLY show the Williams and Americnas play OVER and OVER when they could show Nadal/Soderling

tangerine_dream
07-02-2007, 02:50 PM
The fact that a fan of the game can bust a gut trying to get a tciket and end up with nothing while some rich clown can have a seat reserved for them and not even turn up for 90% of play.
:worship:

the extreme elite whiteness of the culture. changing, but not fast enough.
Politically correct racists who complain about how some sports are "too white" and the irony of their hero Roger Federer feeding into these "white elitist" notions when he shows up on court dressed like Sir Fucking Elton John.

:)

MCL
07-02-2007, 02:59 PM
:worship:


Politically correct racists who complain about how some sports are "too white" and the irony of their hero Roger Federer feeding into these "white elitist" notions when he shows up on court dressed like Sir Fucking Elton John.

:)


Keep in mind that sports some would call "too black" were sports in which blacks/ethnic minorities were historically excluded from.

Kitty de Sade
07-02-2007, 02:59 PM
The ATP brass, who have absolutely no idea about how to market the sport in any reasonable, viable way. :)

redreef
07-02-2007, 03:07 PM
I dislike that the sport punishes players who are fit and rewards those who are not by allowing endless visits from the trainers which help the less fit player stay in the match.

tangerine_dream
07-02-2007, 03:19 PM
Keep in mind that sports some would call "too black" were sports in which blacks/ethnic minorities were historically excluded from.
Here's what I'm thinking: as a perfect example of a "white, elitist" sport, Tiger Woods has been dominating golf for quite a while now. People thought he would finally break down the racial barriers and "minorities" would finally get the picture that they too can play golf and be successful at it. Well, it's been ten years now so where are they? Tennis looks more diverse than golf these days. Even the Williams sisters dominating tennis for a short while doesn't seem to have encouraged very many future black stars.

My point being is that you can't force a sport to become "multicultural" if some groups just aren't interested in playing. And if some sports are predominantly white or black or Indian or whatever, then why is that necessarily such a bad thing?

MCL
07-02-2007, 03:27 PM
Here's what I'm thinking: as a perfect example of a "white, elitist" sport, Tiger Woods has been dominating golf for quite a while now. People thought he would finally break down the racial barriers and "minorities" would finally get the picture that they too can play golf and be successful at it. Well, it's been ten years now so where are they? Tennis looks more diverse than golf these days. Even the Williams sisters dominating tennis for a short while doesn't seem to have encouraged very many future black stars.

My point being is that you can't force a sport to become "multicultural" if some groups just aren't interested in playing. And if some sports are predominantly white or black or Indian or whatever, then why is that necessarily such a bad thing?

People complaining about white elitism seem to be taking into account historical discrimination - some of which remains today. Socio-economic status, among other things, affects the diversity found in different sports fields.

I'm not knocking your opinion. :) I just don't agree with it. ;)

MCL
07-02-2007, 03:32 PM
I most dislike the decline in quality of women's tennis.

FedFan_2007
07-02-2007, 03:45 PM
Nadal's butt picking and general delaying tactics.

FedFan_2007
07-02-2007, 03:45 PM
I most dislike the decline in quality of women's tennis.

On the contrary, Henin, Ivanovic, Jankovic are quite good.

~EMiLiTA~
07-02-2007, 03:46 PM
Wimbledon
Mr Disney
Corporate fuckwits
Annoying bandwagon jumpers who go for whoever is famous/hot/successful at the time without knowing anything about the player beforehand or tennis as a sport

FedFan_2007
07-02-2007, 03:47 PM
Here's what I'm thinking: as a perfect example of a "white, elitist" sport, Tiger Woods has been dominating golf for quite a while now. People thought he would finally break down the racial barriers and "minorities" would finally get the picture that they too can play golf and be successful at it. Well, it's been ten years now so where are they? Tennis looks more diverse than golf these days. Even the Williams sisters dominating tennis for a short while doesn't seem to have encouraged very many future black stars.

My point being is that you can't force a sport to become "multicultural" if some groups just aren't interested in playing. And if some sports are predominantly white or black or Indian or whatever, then why is that necessarily such a bad thing?

Shhh. You can't upset the gods of PC. You can say that it's horrible that golf/tennis are too white, but we MUST keep mum on the black quotient in the NFL/NBA. Absolute silence is required. :mad: :mad: :mad:

MCL
07-02-2007, 03:47 PM
On the contrary, Henin, Ivanovic, Jankovic are quite good.

overall quality then :p

tangerine_dream
07-02-2007, 03:49 PM
People complaining about white elitism seem to be taking into account historical discrimination - some of which remains today. Socio-economic status, among other things, affects the diversity found in different sports fields.
I understand this. But at what point can we finally let go of the past to move forward? Historical discrimination against minorities in tennis hasn't happened for over a generation now. Two generations have grown up post-civil rights era and would be of tennis playing age now. Future generations will not be able to keep using the discrimination crutch as an excuse for much longer.

Regarding socio-economic status: the WS were not rich growing up in Compton playing on public courts. In the past few years, the USTA has been making a concerted effort to bring tennis into the urban areas where kids cannot afford tennis equipment.

I'm not knocking your opinion. :) I just don't agree with it. ;)
I understand that and I appreciate your comments.

RickDaStick
07-02-2007, 03:52 PM
All those damn druglords from Argentina

Ales_Alessandra
07-02-2007, 04:02 PM
The tard war in GM!! :rocker:
Eventough it is quite funny most of the time, it becomes tired after the on going discussion that is about the same arguments over and over again ! :p

*Ljubica*
07-02-2007, 04:11 PM
(1) So called "fans" from whatever country they come from, who think it's acceptable to support their favourite, by jeering and clapping his opponents' double faults, and not having the respect to clap a good shot if it's made against their favourite. And yes RonE - I loathe Davis Cup :angel:

(2) British media who think the tennis season exists for only 3 weeks of the year (Queens and Wimbledon), and never on any other surface but grass!

(3) Big servers :devil:

rmb6687
07-02-2007, 05:16 PM
This I agree with. The good seats often aren't even for SALE. They're reserved for the "important" people at some corporation. And of course, said people couldn't give two shits about the sport. They show up for the semi and the final and the rest of the week, the seats right next to the court remain empty.

do you guys ever just go down and sit there? I mean, I'm sure it's harder to do in the big tournaments, but it's really easy to do in the smaller ones. And I don't mean the challengers.

But besides that being the case in every sport, what I specifically do not like about tennis is the lack of variety in televised matches and the elitist sensibility that the sport has. And if the thing I (and many others) have got such a problem with was corrected, it would lose a bit of that elitism because fans would not have to try so hard and therefore feel more 'attached' to the game. Its all well and good, but it makes for some annoying fans.

Jimnik
07-02-2007, 05:26 PM
The fact that I'm so crap at it.

NYCtennisfan
07-02-2007, 05:28 PM
Too many things and most have been covered so far.

Corporate fuckwits who don't give a damn about the sport, but are there for their free wine and lobster and they get to see the matches, while most of the true fans don't. Yes, I understand it's a part of the sponsorship deal, but it's too much.



Ditto. Get to see it in person in a few months at the Open. :)

As far as the game is concerned, anytime there is too much delay between points. Fast moving matches are so much more enjoyable to watch, especially when you're in the stands. When you're at home, at least you can flip the channel or something.

bokehlicious
07-02-2007, 06:22 PM
Fans who come up with ridiculous comments such as these:

:yeah: Tangy is not exacty a tennis fan though... :rolleyes:

scarecrows
07-02-2007, 06:24 PM
:yeah: Tangy is not exacty a tennis fan though... :rolleyes:

why not? she puts Rafa ahead of ego king, that's enough in my book

Tomy
07-02-2007, 06:26 PM
Wimbledon

bokehlicious
07-02-2007, 06:28 PM
why not? she puts Rafa ahead of ego king, that's enough in my book

No, she's actually a Fedtard in disguise... :o

Marek.
07-02-2007, 06:37 PM
Ballet Tennis, it's ruining the sport.

Corswandt
07-02-2007, 08:56 PM
Never have I understood why people cheer for guys just because they're from their own country. I rather cheer for the players I like, who show beautiful tennis and who seem to have a nice personality - regardless of their nationality. :angel:

I'm the same, but when I say this everyone retorts "That's only because Portugal has no tennis players, hohoho."

Havok
07-02-2007, 09:19 PM
Full blown domination, plain and simple. That includes the Nadal owning the clay season part, as well as Federer owning everything else.

Variety is the spice of life, and as a tennis fan, I am starting to get really bored of the ATp tour simply because for the past 4 years everything is pretty much pre-determined already. This year Miami and IW were insanely fun because Fed was knocked out very early, which made things very interesting. Ditto Cincy last year, nevermind the fact that my fave ended up winning it all. The simple fact that a big tournament lost Fed and Nadal early on and still had very big names left throughout the final days was intense and fun to follow/watch.

Not taking anything away from Federer or Nadal. Both are incredibly gifted and deserve everything they are getting now. It just sucks that nobody yet can crack those two, or neither of them letting up whatsoever. Gone were the good old days of 2003, the last year where tennis was fun for lots of people. :RIP:

Naranoc
07-02-2007, 09:19 PM
The number of idiotic commentators who come along unwanted with the package.

Stensland
07-02-2007, 09:22 PM
tennis coverage in germany. it's a sad, sad story since becker, stich and graf left.

njnetswill
07-03-2007, 01:13 AM
Andy Roddick

*waits for bad reps*

StevoTG
07-03-2007, 01:31 AM
Andy Roddick

Boooooo! :( ;)


(just for the record I like Roddick, but it is a thread of opinion)

GlennMirnyi
07-03-2007, 01:33 AM
Nadal.

Marek.
07-03-2007, 01:55 AM
Nadal.

Heretic!:mad: ;)

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-03-2007, 03:43 AM
The Ego King (and his followers are a close second)

RagingLamb
07-03-2007, 03:50 AM
Tennis commentating, even moreso than immature fans

ChrisDoesDallas
07-03-2007, 04:12 AM
Poor scheduling of tournaments. Lack of involvement of fans with the sport. My favorites sucking.

That's about it for the worst ones.

Action Jackson
07-03-2007, 04:12 AM
Bandwagon jumpers.

FedFan_2007
07-03-2007, 04:33 AM
RFK:

At least you admit Roger is THE KING. As in King Leonidas, Spartan power!

Bibberz
07-03-2007, 05:25 AM
Its susceptibility to inclement weather.

laure xxx
07-03-2007, 05:29 AM
lets on a netserve, they should just continue to play to speed up the game.

100% agree. If there are lets allowed during a point, why not during the serve.

The_Nadal_effect
07-03-2007, 05:46 AM
I hate nothing about tennis and no one.
But I sure love to see:

1.Nadal win.
2. Great mental and physical battles on court.
3. MTF's humourous 'tardism': Absolutely unique. Happens nowhere else I know! Hilarious!

*Viva Chile*
07-03-2007, 05:48 AM
grass :p

UncleZeke
07-03-2007, 06:36 AM
Listening to Sharapova just screeching at the top of her lungs for the whole match.

LeChuck
07-03-2007, 08:54 AM
Nalbandian's generally dreadful form since reaching the French Open semi-finals 13 months ago.

Grenouille
07-03-2007, 08:56 AM
federer

Bart.
07-03-2007, 09:02 AM
Only 1 thing? :o

1. Nadal
2. Federer winning Wimbledon for the 256215745th year in a row
3. Federer's big ego

Krikry
07-03-2007, 09:06 AM
Mmmmh, Mr Disney? Rain delay? or maybe the scoreboards...

Angle Queen
07-03-2007, 12:03 PM
The scoring "numbers." 15, 30....40. :retard: No apparent rhyme or reason. IMHO, it keeps the casual "watcher" from comprehending and is a turn-off.

What's wrong with 1, 2, 3, 4?

stebs
07-03-2007, 12:05 PM
The scoring "numbers." 15, 30....40. :retard: No apparent rhyme or reason. IMHO, it keeps the casual "watcher" from comprehending and is a turn-off.

What's wrong with 1, 2, 3, 4?

You can learn the scoring system of tennis in 2 minutes without difficulty. Anyone who is casual enough to give up due to the scoring was never going to be a fan anyway.

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-03-2007, 12:59 PM
RFK:

At least you admit Roger is THE KING. As in King Leonidas, Spartan power!

You hate me. I am so sad. :rolleyes:

Fed = Xerxes and FedFan_2007 = that hunchbacked loser

Dina
07-03-2007, 01:02 PM
fans who are glory hunters and feel the need the need to support a winner to feel better about themselves and then piss about as if they actually did something/should be congratulated when said player wins

Angle Queen
07-03-2007, 01:19 PM
You can learn the scoring system of tennis in 2 minutes without difficulty. Anyone who is casual enough to give up due to the scoring was never going to be a fan anyway.I agree in some respect -- I thought it was easy. But apparently not and it's why I was careful to use the word "watcher" instead of "fan" or "potential fan." Sadly, in today's "gotta have it now" (or I'll change the channel, surf to another page/website)...you may not have two minutes to capture someone's attention.

I can't tell you how many times I've had to explain to otherwise intelligent sports fans why it's "deuce" and not "40-all" or why the French use "egalite." And no one seems to get why it jumps 15 points (from 15 to 30) but then only 10 points to 40. I mean, it's not like the third point is worth more than the first two (except that you're potentially closer to winning the game).

It's just one of the things I happen to dislike about tennis. There aren't many. :)

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-03-2007, 01:21 PM
I agree in some respect -- I thought it was easy. But apparently not and it's why I was careful to use the word "watcher" instead of "fan" or "potential fan." Sadly, in today's "gotta have it now" (or I'll change the channel, surf to another page/website)...you may not have two minutes to capture someone's attention.

I can't tell you how many times I've had to explain to otherwise intelligent sports fans why it's "deuce" and not "40-all" or why the French use "egalite." And no one seems to get why it jumps 15 points (from 15 to 30) but then only 10 points to 40. I mean, it's not like the third point is worth more than the first two (except that you're potentially closer to winning the game).

It's just one of the things I happen to dislike about tennis. There aren't many. :)

The scoring system is traditional.
It was originally made so the lower classes couldn't understand tennis as it was a sport for the upper class.

However, it isn't hard to understand or learn for any modern/evolved person.

G4.
07-03-2007, 01:29 PM
why the French use "egalite."

are you serious with that question ? is it that hard to understand that in english speaking countries they use DEUCE , in spanish speaking countries it's IGUALES , or in france Egalité.
just so you know it exists more than 1 language in the world

Auscon
07-03-2007, 01:37 PM
The promotion of the sport...its shit

Want to attract a younger audience to the sport?, for starters don't play pissboring clipshow ads for a big tournament, to the tune of slow classical music or the like. This is an exciting, fast, highly skilled, and powerful game...what other sport can feature 2 competitors, no team-mates to rely on, no coach in their corner to give them pointers throughout (yet...), alone out there against one another, doing battle for up to 5 hours or more...its epic and gladitorial, the likes of which no other sport can truly provide.

I can only speak of what I've seen here ofcourse..

Ferrero Forever
07-03-2007, 01:40 PM
Watching live scores. You can't live with them, because they make you so scared because you can't see whats going on, all you have to rely on is serve speed and scores, but you can't live without them either because you're just dying to know whats going on.

Neely
07-03-2007, 02:02 PM
People who are whining consistently about how crappy a tournament or its organization is and how they would make everything better; they always find something: in AO it is the heat rule that their favourite player has to finish his match in the high noon sun, at Wimbledon it is the rain and its tradition, and the US Open simply sucks because it is in the US and because they don't know how to dry the courts or so - just any reason will do.

People who seriously think that only(!) clay is the epitome and people who are whining about clay being sped up, but as for grass, it's okay that it was slowed down of course because the points are otherwise too short.

Oh sorry, I mentioned already more than one thing.

The snobby elite-culture around it
I agree, thanks for that! :hatoff:

Sunset of Age
07-03-2007, 02:03 PM
Right now: it falls from the sky and it's wet. :p

ReturnWinner
07-03-2007, 02:05 PM
whining about the horrible wimbledon organization is not bad :wavey:

People who are whining consistently about how crappy a tournament or its organization is and how they would make everything better; they always find something: in AO it is the heat rule that their favourite player has to finish his match in the high noon sun, at Wimbledon it is the rain, and the US Open simply sucks because it is in the US and because they don't know how to dry the courts or so - just any reason will do.

People who think that only(!) clay is the epitome and people who are whining about clay being sped up, but as for grass, it's okay that it was slowed down of course because the points are otherwise too short.

Oh sorry, I mentioned already more than one thing.


I agree, thanks for that! :hatoff:

Neely
07-03-2007, 02:09 PM
whining about the horrible wimbledon organization is not bad :wavey:
We can't change it, but at least it's justified a bit. Depends on my daily mood how I see this. Sometimes it's just getting on my nerves, sometimes I'd join the tenor.

And BTW, what is also going on my nerves is the discussion about the equal prize money. I mean, sure, it can be discussed and it's a worthy topic (better than Nadal's underwear), but I read some things of people and I could almost think that they are personally involved into this, that their own money is cut down by such a decision and that the few 10k the women are getting more is at the expense of their own purse.

Action Jackson
07-03-2007, 02:09 PM
People who seriously think that only(!) clay is the epitome and people who are whining about clay being sped up, but as for grass, it's okay that it was slowed down of course because the points are otherwise too short.

Complaining about yourself there are we?

Neely
07-03-2007, 02:13 PM
Complaining about yourself there are we?
Mutual. And you know from what side I'm coming from regarding this issue.

leng jai
07-03-2007, 02:14 PM
The lack of sexy slice backhands.

Action Jackson
07-03-2007, 02:20 PM
Mutual. And you know from what side I'm coming from regarding this issue.

Actually, you don't know my view on this at all.

Just for you I will explain it. While personally I watch more grass tennis now cause they slowed the surface down, this does not mean I am in favour of them doing it, but understand why it happened. I hope that is clear, if not this means it has taken something away from it, whether I like it or not.

Considering all the surfaces require different skills and these need to appreciated, whether I like them or not. Hence this is why I loathe grasscourt propagandists.

Neely
07-03-2007, 02:31 PM
Actually, you don't know my view on this at all.

Just for you I will explain it. While personally I watch more grass tennis now cause they slowed the surface down, this does not mean I am in favour of them doing it, but understand why it happened. I hope that is clear, if not this means it has taken something away from it, whether I like it or not.

Considering all the surfaces require different skills and these need to appreciated, whether I like them or not. Hence this is why I loathe grasscourt propagandists.
Yes, you don't need to explain that to me because I think the same on most of that, especially the part that they all require certain skills, and I said never otherwise. It's just that I'm clearly saying I have a favourite surface which I love most to watch and which makes tennis most enjoyable for me, and the tournaments using grass would be more in the perfect world compared to the amount of tournaments using hardcourt or clay.

dmit424
07-03-2007, 02:37 PM
I think they should require that all players remove their jewelry before matches, like most professional sports do. On the other hand, I understand that tennis is an individual sport, in which no uniform is required to identify team affiliation, and therefore there is no necessity for a uniform code. It would just be too much, both for the players who like to make fashion statements and for jewelery manufacturers who may hold contracts with said players, to ask the players to remove their dazzling piercings, shimmering chains, and leather watches.

I mean, although I am not a fan of jewelery on men, and I think it looks less professional for them to be playing with little gold and silver chains, I can tolerate that. But Robredo's leather watch? That's just a walking fashion statement from a man while he is competing in a professional sport. In a sport, players should wear sports attire, and clothing companies like Nike and others can advance their athletic lines of attire, but why is a player wearing a leather-band and completely non-athletic watch while playing tennis?

I know a lot of you will probably tell me that clothing should be the least of our worries, but this was a simple thread asking us to name something that we dislike about tennis, and this is just how I feel. I also think Federer's white coats and bags are out of place, even in a place like Wibledon, but I still think Robredo's watches are less remarkable. I think he is generally considered a good looking guy, so maybe he should continue his erotic modeling.

Action Jackson
07-03-2007, 02:50 PM
Yes, you don't need to explain that to me because I think the same on most of that, especially the part that they all require certain skills, and I said never otherwise. It's just that I'm clearly saying I have a favourite surface which I love most to watch and which makes tennis most enjoyable for me, and the tournaments using grass would be more in the perfect world compared to the amount of tournaments using hardcourt or clay.

The problem for me lies, in that if you don't buy the whole Wimbledon is the most important event for all the players and the fans hooplah which is partly ethnocentric, while true for a lot of people, it's not for all fans and players. These people get looked it as if they aren't tennis fans, lesser beings or from another planet.

dkw
07-03-2007, 03:27 PM
Federer :p

Sean.J.S.
07-04-2007, 08:49 AM
Right now: it falls from the sky and it's wet. :p

:scratch:

VolandriFan
07-04-2007, 09:11 AM
:scratch:

:spit:

LeChuck
07-04-2007, 09:16 AM
The fact that 1) There are too many hardcourt tournaments on the calendar (Basel changing surfaces from carpet to hard is a complete joke), and 2) Clay and grass are being altered to resemble and play like hardcourts more and more. The result? That we are basically seeing hardcourt tennis all year round.

Kristen
07-04-2007, 11:14 AM
That it isn't more like wheelchair tennis draws. If you lose first round, you get a go in 'second draw'. Some of my players would benefit from that :p

Nothing really annoys me too much. Except that I'm not 'allowed' to cheer for people from other countries, without being questioned about patriotism / nationality. I am not Jim Thomas' wife, nor am I Austrian/Swedish, nor will I go to hell for cheering against Australia. :wavey:

rmb6687
07-05-2007, 07:35 PM
wait, i may possibly sound stupid, but why do they say 'deuce' instead of '40-all'?