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Federer in QF - Haas withdraws!

maldini
07-01-2007, 12:01 PM
http://www.swisstxt.ch/pics/SF1/184-00.gif

EDIT: Now they changed the page on teletext, i don't know how to bring the old picture back :help: :p

Rosa Luxembourg
07-01-2007, 12:05 PM
is this Bloomberg or reuters?

BlueSwan
07-01-2007, 12:05 PM
That's too bad. Would have liked to have watched that match. Hopefully there's not something serious wrong with Tommy.

krystlel
07-01-2007, 12:05 PM
I just looked it up on Yahoo, after reading this thread. First a shoulder injury, and now a stomach injury. :sad:

The Pro
07-01-2007, 12:05 PM
:mad:

Fed you swine!

jonas
07-01-2007, 12:07 PM
:eek: A bit sad, really. Was looking forward to this match, and it was nice to see Haas back in form. Poor Haas. He's almost got as much injury problems as Pim-Pim.

marcRD
07-01-2007, 12:07 PM
Thats sad, I like watching them play each other. Hope there is nothing serious with Haas.

BlueSwan
07-01-2007, 12:07 PM
Actually, this means that Federer gets an unusually long break from playing in the middle of Wimbledon. He played friday and will play wednesday at the very earliest - with the weather forecast it might be a day or two later than that. So Federers quarterfinal will be a bit like a 1st round match for him.

bokehlicious
07-01-2007, 12:08 PM
The Ego King is too lucky... He would have had his ass kicked for sure, and now he'll have plenty of time, while Rafito will have to play 3 matches in 3 days... Rigged !! :mad: :o

knightsky
07-01-2007, 12:08 PM
From BBC Sports http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/6258710.stm

Injured Haas out of Federer match

Haas's withdrawal means Federer will get a bye into the quarter-finals
Tommy Haas has been forced to pull out of his fourth-round Wimbledon singles match against Roger Federer because of a stomach injury.

The German 13th seed was due to face the reigning champion on Centre Court on Monday, but Federer will now earn a bye into the quarter-finals.

Haas sustained a torn muscle in his third-round win over Dmitry Tursunov.

Federer will face 2003 French Open champion Juan Carlos Ferrero or Janko Tipsarevic in the last eight.

Eden
07-01-2007, 12:10 PM
:mad:

Fed you swine!

No need to be so rude :rolleyes:

I'm really sorry for Tommy that he had to withdrew. It should have been an entertaining match against Roger.

Get well soon Tommy and see you in the hardcourt season :)

Rogiman
07-01-2007, 12:10 PM
That's too bad.

I hope Haas recovers fast, he's a decent player, and Federer doesn't need that sort of favors.

maldini
07-01-2007, 12:10 PM
is this Bloomberg or reuters?

swiss teletext....

and JMPower...i think you need to change your flag:p

anon57
07-01-2007, 12:11 PM
That's really unfortunate for Haas and I hope he recovers quickly

Castafiore
07-01-2007, 12:11 PM
No need to be so rude :rolleyes:
Calling a player "swine" isn't rude on MTF. :angel:

bokehlicious
07-01-2007, 12:14 PM
and JMPower...i think you need to change your flag:p

Being Swiss doesn't mean being blind and brainless... I've seen the light now :cool: :p ;)

bokehlicious
07-01-2007, 12:15 PM
Calling a player "swine" isn't rude on MTF. :angel:

But calling a player Piggy is... :rolleyes:

Castafiore
07-01-2007, 12:18 PM
But calling a player Piggy is... :rolleyes:
awwww...you missed the sarcasm in my post, JMPower.;)

Maybe I should have added a :p smiley

AnnaK_4ever
07-01-2007, 12:20 PM
Get well soon, Tommy :hug:

P.S.
Tursunov must be pissed off now but can blame only himself for this missed opportunity...

Ales_Alessandra
07-01-2007, 12:22 PM
That's bad! :awww:
Hope he gets better soon! It is just suck get sick in anyway!! I don't like to see anyone suffering with injuries!! :sad:
Best wishes for him!
Well Roger, What a hell lucky you are! He is pretty much with a half palm on the trophy! ;)

bokehlicious
07-01-2007, 12:23 PM
awwww...you missed the sarcasm in my post, JMPower.;)

Maybe I should have added a :p smiley

That would indeed have been more explicit :p ;)

bokehlicious
07-01-2007, 12:24 PM
Well Roger, What a hell lucky you are!

That's it ! If he manages by luck to win the tourney we already know why... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Eden
07-01-2007, 12:28 PM
Calling a player "swine" isn't rude on MTF. :angel:

I can't speak for others just for myself and I didn't found the expression appropriated.

Neely
07-01-2007, 12:30 PM
That's really bad for Tommy that he can't even play now that finally fought so hard to reach the 4th round at Wimbledon for the first time in his career. Sure he would have lost anyway, but it's always bad when a player can't even play :sad:

Damn, this Federer is almost as lucky to get so many rest as this Nadal guy was with his Wimbledon 2006 opponents :p

rubsch
07-01-2007, 12:32 PM
:mad:

Fed you swine!

what has roger to do with that?

bokehlicious
07-01-2007, 12:34 PM
what has roger to do with that?

He is evil :mad:

Or Levy
07-01-2007, 12:35 PM
I don't know if Roger is all that excited about it, he's going to have a VERY long break.

jmp
07-01-2007, 12:36 PM
These last few years have been so tough for Tommy. Get well soon.

Ales_Alessandra
07-01-2007, 12:37 PM
That's it ! If he manages by luck to win the tourney we already know why... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Well I guess you quite didn't get the meaning of my tought! As ;) doesn't ring your bell! :rolleyes:
PS: But despite the long break, I heard that some players don't like it, specially in the middle of the competition cause the rhythm can go away, for a QF I would say that Roger is not that happy with it! :tape: :eek: :bolt:

Kolya
07-01-2007, 12:37 PM
Wow!!!

Everything is going Fed's way...

Andre'sNo1Fan
07-01-2007, 12:37 PM
Haas is so unlucky with injuries :sad:

In comparison to Federer who never gets injured (now that is luck).

Eden
07-01-2007, 12:39 PM
Haas is so unlucky with injuries :sad:

In comparison to Federer who never gets injured (now that is luck).

Please stop spreading such wrong things.

Burrow
07-01-2007, 12:44 PM
that is such a bastard, such a shame, haas was playing well. Nothing worse than this for the guy.

bokehlicious
07-01-2007, 12:45 PM
Please stop spreading such wrong things.

She's quite clueless when it comes to tennis ;)

Burrow
07-01-2007, 12:45 PM
Please stop spreading such wrong things.

:lol: he had one serious wrist injury before he became no.1 then no big injuries.

Andre'sNo1Fan
07-01-2007, 12:46 PM
She's quite clueless when it comes to tennis ;)
When was the last time he missed a slam :retard:

bokehlicious
07-01-2007, 12:48 PM
When was the last time he missed a slam :retard:

If he's rarely injured it's due mainly to his physical conditions and wise style of play ! Of course, for the haters he's just a luckbox... :zzz:

Voo de Mar
07-01-2007, 12:48 PM
:( Really sad news :(

Andre'sNo1Fan
07-01-2007, 12:50 PM
If he's rarely injured it's due mainly to his physical conditions and wise style of play ! Of course, for the haters he's just a luckbox... :zzz:
LOL. You really believe that. Its just luck. Tommy Haas plays very similar to Federer and he's always injured, so try and work that one out you fool.

Castafiore
07-01-2007, 12:51 PM
I can't speak for others just for myself and I didn't found the expression appropriated.
I thought that it was common knowledge on MTF that swines are intelligent creatures so it's quite the compliment actually. :)

bokehlicious
07-01-2007, 12:53 PM
Tommy Haas plays very similar to Federer and he's always injured

:haha: thanks for the laugh ;)

And btw Roger got his share of problems too, he got unlucky injuries at the end of the 04 and 05 seasons... :o

t0x
07-01-2007, 12:54 PM
Very sad for Haas, I was looking forward to the match too :( They always play well against each other... what a shame. Also this could disrupt Roger's routine, he's going to have a very long break between matches!

And of course Federer rarley gets injured. He takes way longer breaks than the majority of the tour and is on court a lot less with a much less physical style of play. He does get injured from time to time (before TMC 2005 anyone?) but often.

Andre'sNo1Fan
07-01-2007, 12:56 PM
:haha: thanks for the laugh ;)

And btw Roger got his share of problems too, he got unlucky injuries at the end of the 04 and 05 seasons... :o
He does, he may not be as good at it, but its a similar style. Go and watch some tennis, I'm sure you think there is no-one who can play anything like Federer :retard:

2004 and 2005, when he missed like 2 tournaments, wow :o

bokehlicious
07-01-2007, 12:58 PM
He does, he may not be as good at it, but its a similar style. Go and watch some tennis, I'm sure you think there is no-one who can play anything like Federer :retard:

I guess they both play with a racquet so they definitely play the same way... :rolleyes: Get a clue you pathetic fangirl...

AndyUK
07-01-2007, 12:58 PM
Damn it. I was looking forward to this match, plus it's gonna tarnish Federer's fifth victory.

Put Hewitt vs. Canas on Centre now!

Andre♥
07-01-2007, 12:59 PM
That's simple to answer. Federer plays injured sometimes, just like in the masters final in 2005. He isn't a pussy that gives up all the time. He has never retired injured in a match. Also he has never faked it because he couldn't break Guccione's serve...

marcRD
07-01-2007, 12:59 PM
When was the last time he missed a slam :retard:

Federer plays the most easy on the body, relaxing tennis you can play and rarely plays long matches. He never sweats at the end of the games and usualy play 1s rounds as if it was training practice (which sometimes causes some trouble to him). Federer is a smart player, he wants to stay healthy for a long time.

marcRD
07-01-2007, 01:00 PM
That's simple to answer. Federer plays injured sometimes, just like in the masters final in 2005. He isn't a pussy that gives up all the time. He has never retired injured in a match. Also he has never faked it because he couldn't break Guccione's serve...

That is true, never in his +600 matches has he ever retired from a match.

Andre'sNo1Fan
07-01-2007, 01:01 PM
I guess they both play with a racquet so they definitely play the same way... :rolleyes: Get a clue you pathetic fangirl...
They have a very similar game, so stop fooling yourself. Would you like to explain what they do so differently?

Neely
07-01-2007, 01:02 PM
That's simple to answer. Federer plays injured sometimes, just like in the masters final in 2005. He isn't a pussy that gives up all the time. He has never retired injured in a match. Also he has never faked it because he couldn't break Guccione's serve...
Always pure bullshit with this pussy talk whenever a player retires because it always depends on the kind of injury if you can make it worse by continue playing or not or whether it needs immediate rest/treatment and no further stress. And you can guess that players who already missed about two years because they continued playing and, therefore, made their injury worse are much more precautious when it comes to that than others who maybe get a little strain on their thigh which would qualify for their worst injury.

Andre'sNo1Fan
07-01-2007, 01:03 PM
Federer plays the most easy on the body, relaxing tennis you can play and rarely plays long matches. He never sweats at the end of the games and usualy play 1s rounds as if it was training practice (which sometimes causes some trouble to him). Federer is a smart player, he wants to stay healthy for a long time.
Sweating does not mean he's not tired, its just some people's bodys perspirate more than others, rather than anything to do with how he plays.

bokehlicious
07-01-2007, 01:04 PM
They have a very similar game, so stop fooling yourself. Would you like to explain what they do so differently?

Off court stuff baby... I don't think their preparations are the same. Plus, on court, Haas struggles a lot more to win "easy" matches hence is more prone to injuries...

marcRD
07-01-2007, 01:06 PM
Sweating does not mean he's not tired, its just some people's bodys perspirate more than others, rather than anything to do with how he plays.

Well, you dont see him breathing heavily too, or having cramps and all other things you see from much younger players like Murray, Baghdatis, Djokovic (!) and even Nadal in some matches.

marcRD
07-01-2007, 01:07 PM
They have a very similar game, so stop fooling yourself. Would you like to explain what they do so differently?

Haas swings are not as relaxed as Federers, his movement is so effortless and his matches are not as short as Federers matches is.

Much has to do with footwork, Federers footwork is amazing, I would not say the same about Haas. Davydenko also has very good footwork which may be the reason he can play so many tournamets.

Kalliopeia
07-01-2007, 01:12 PM
This place cracks me up.

Fed fans: ONOZ! A long break will disrupt his rhythm!

Non Fed fans: ONOZ! He'll have an extra amount of rest, lucky bastard!

:lol:

Hope Tommy's injury isn't too bad.

WF4EVER
07-01-2007, 01:12 PM
I'm glad Feds is through but sorry for Haas. This is obviously a serious injury if he pulls out this early. And he had just come back, too.

GWS, Tommy.

Fergie
07-01-2007, 01:12 PM
Poor Tommy ... Get well soon :hug:

Baghdatis72
07-01-2007, 01:16 PM
Bad luck for Tommy although he would lose in straights anyway. Wishes for fast recovery :)

Hopefully they move the Baghdatis vs Nalbandian match on Centre court now.

Yappa
07-01-2007, 01:16 PM
Can't say that I am surprised after hearing him talk about the pain on Friday. Disappointing nevertheless. At least he wasn't facing an easier to beat player.

Ales_Alessandra
07-01-2007, 01:27 PM
Bad luck for Tommy although he would lose in straights anyway. Wishes for fast recovery :)

Hopefully they move the Baghdatis vs Nalbandian match on Centre court now.

I would like to see Hewitt x Canas, but anyother then women would be fine!
Ps: Not that all women matches are boring, but the last Serena at the centre court was :tape:!

This place cracks me up.

Fed fans: ONOZ! A long break will disrupt his rhythm!

Non Fed fans: ONOZ! He'll have an extra amount of rest, lucky bastard!

Where do I stay on it? I said both things! :scared:
:lol: Indeed MTF is just funny sometimes, or should I say, most of the time!!

adee-gee
07-01-2007, 01:29 PM
That's simple to answer. Federer plays injured sometimes, just like in the masters final in 2005. He isn't a pussy that gives up all the time. He has never retired injured in a match. Also he has never faked it because he couldn't break Guccione's serve...
Glenn :hug: just because no-one listened to you on your old username, there's no need to start hacking into other people's accounts :rolleyes:

So to reach the SF of a slam, Federer has beaten Gabashvili, Del Potro, Safin and Ferrero/Tipsarevic. I wonder what the comments would be if Nadal had that draw :o

adee-gee
07-01-2007, 01:29 PM
They moved Gasquet-Tsonga to Centre btw.....

rocketassist
07-01-2007, 01:30 PM
Glenn :hug: just because no-one listened to you on your old username, there's no need to start hacking into other people's accounts :rolleyes:

So to reach the SF of a slam, Federer has beaten Gabashvili, Del Potro, Safin and Ferrero/Tipsarevic. I wonder what the comments would be if Nadal had that draw :o

Too true :lol:

Soderling and Youzhny are tough opponents but if they lose they will by magic become easy draws.

leng jai
07-01-2007, 01:30 PM
Haas swings are not as relaxed as Federers, his movement is so effortless and his matches are not as short as Federers matches is.

Much has to do with footwork, Federers footwork is amazing, I would not say the same about Haas. Davydenko also has very good footwork which may be the reason he can play so many tournamets.

Have you got a personal vendetta against Haas dude?

bokehlicious
07-01-2007, 01:31 PM
So to reach the SF of a slam, Federer has beaten Gabashvili, Del Potro, Safin and Ferrero/Tipsarevic. I wonder what the comments would be if Nadal had that draw :o

Piggy would have been schooled by Gaba :cool:

bokehlicious
07-01-2007, 01:32 PM
Have you got a personal vendetta against Haas dude?

He was just stating the obvious... :shrug:

adee-gee
07-01-2007, 01:34 PM
Piggy would have been schooled by Gaba :cool:
Probably, I guess Gaba is tougher than anyone Piggy had to face last year ;)

marcRD
07-01-2007, 01:34 PM
Glenn :hug: just because no-one listened to you on your old username, there's no need to start hacking into other people's accounts :rolleyes:

So to reach the SF of a slam, Federer has beaten Gabashvili, Del Potro, Safin and Ferrero/Tipsarevic. I wonder what the comments would be if Nadal had that draw :o

Federer doesnt need an easy draw, so it is different. Besides Safin and Del Potro are not easy, definetly more difficult than Udomchoke and Verdasco.

bokehlicious
07-01-2007, 01:36 PM
Probably, I guess Gaba is tougher than anyone Piggy had to face last year ;)

Definitely tougher than a lot of the clowns he faced last year... :o :p

marcRD
07-01-2007, 01:36 PM
Probably, I guess Gaba is tougher than anyone Piggy had to face last year ;)

Safin could have taken Nadal out.

Doggy
07-01-2007, 01:37 PM
BOO! what a lucky swatch!

Pea
07-01-2007, 01:39 PM
I would be scared to play Fed too.

Ales_Alessandra
07-01-2007, 01:40 PM
They moved Gasquet-Tsonga to Centre btw.....

:ras:

marcRD
07-01-2007, 01:40 PM
Federer needs practice, he has only played 3 grass matches after clay season. I am afraid of a possible match against Gasquet without enought match practice in the semifinal (but Roddick will probably take him out).

rofe
07-01-2007, 01:43 PM
Hope Haas gets better. Fed needed that match after missing Halle. Hopefully his game will be sharp for the QF.

adee-gee
07-01-2007, 01:49 PM
Federer doesnt need an easy draw, so it is different. Besides Safin and Del Potro are not easy, definetly more difficult than Udomchoke and Verdasco.
:haha: every single word in that post smacks of stupidity.
Safin could have taken Nadal out.
I doubt it. Anyway, Oscar Hernandez could have taken Federer out.
Hope Haas gets better. Fed needed that match after missing Halle. Hopefully his game will be sharp for the QF.
Yes, he'll need to be very sharp against Ferrero or Tipsarevic :o

Andy Andy
07-01-2007, 01:53 PM
Poor Haas. But this long break means Fed might pay at the very earliest on Wednesday. That's a lot of days without playing and he ought be careful not to have lost his rythm if he is to play hot Ferrero in QF. Glad to see Tsonga on the Centre tomorrow. Too bad the rain is back on the schedule.

ycpg
07-01-2007, 01:53 PM
What a joke, he nows has a free ride to the Semi Finals as anyone knows that Ferrero or Tipsarevic cannot even take a set off him

mickymouse
07-01-2007, 01:55 PM
Lol.Federer is already in QF while half are still trying to finish their third round matches.
The good news is that one of the men's matches will be moved to the centre court instead of some obscure court.

Ales_Alessandra
07-01-2007, 01:56 PM
Gasquet x Tsonga! Already there!

Andy Andy
07-01-2007, 01:57 PM
Federer doesnt need an easy draw, so it is different. Besides Safin and Del Potro are not easy, definetly more difficult than Udomchoke and Verdasco.
For a huge FED fan, you spend a lot of time analysing/critisizing Nadal's and Roddick's draws. Anybody would despatch Safin or Del Potro on grass considering their distaste of the surface or lack of experience on the surface.

aussie_fan
07-01-2007, 02:00 PM
disappointing for tommy, making it easier for roger.

krystlel
07-01-2007, 02:04 PM
Lol.Federer is already in QF while half are still trying to finish their third round matches.
The good news is that one of the men's matches will be moved to the centre court instead of some obscure court.
They only moved Gasquet v Tsonga to Centre Court which was originally on Court 1 anyway and nothing onto Court 1. :rolleyes: I think the withdrawal was made relatively early and enough notice can be given to make more changes than that. :o

sawan66278
07-01-2007, 02:06 PM
Safin could have taken Nadal out. Um, no.

Brad Gilbert says that Rafa is the best player at Wimbledon this year. Now, that seems like a stretch, but obviously, if a tennis mind like Gilbert (regardless of how you view his personality) sees him this way, there is NO way Safin would have even won a set.

Mental midget vs. mental giant. Case closed.

Leen.
07-01-2007, 02:06 PM
tommy... :sad:

bokehlicious
07-01-2007, 02:08 PM
Um, no.

Brad Gilbert says that Rafa is the best player at Wimbledon this year. Now, that seems like a stretch, but obviously, if a tennis mind like Gilbert (regardless of how you view his personality) sees him this way, there is NO way Safin would have even won a set.

Mental midget vs. mental giant. Case closed.

Gilbert rocks :rocker2:, he knows Ralph Nader will spank the ego king should they meet in the final...

smitty8
07-01-2007, 02:12 PM
I bet Tursunov is kicking himself right about now.
Lucky for Fed, unlucky for Haas, and Brad Gilbert is a tool. :rolleyes:

marcRD
07-01-2007, 02:15 PM
:haha: every single word in that post smacks of stupidity.


Cming from you its hard to get offended. Federer doesnt need an easy draw as he straight seted Berdych, Ancic, Gasquet, Henman and Mahut last year, almost as difficult a draw can get. What he needs is match practice.

Del Potro>Udomchoke
Safin>Verdasco

Roddicks draw is still the easier and belive me Roddick needs an easy draw he can barely beat a top 10 player at all.

marcRD
07-01-2007, 02:18 PM
Um, no.

Brad Gilbert says that Rafa is the best player at Wimbledon this year. Now, that seems like a stretch, but obviously, if a tennis mind like Gilbert (regardless of how you view his personality) sees him this way, there is NO way Safin would have even won a set.

Mental midget vs. mental giant. Case closed.

I still cant decide if this is a joke or if it is serious.

marcRD
07-01-2007, 02:21 PM
For a huge FED fan, you spend a lot of time analysing/critisizing Nadal's and Roddick's draws. Anybody would despatch Safin or Del Potro on grass considering their distaste of the surface or lack of experience on the surface.

LEt me just say this: Nadals draw is absolutely a nightmare from the 3rd round and beyond. If he makes it to the final I would say I was wrong and that Nadal has talent to even win wimbledon and I would definetly rank him as nr2 on grass.

As for Roddick his draw is as easy as it can get.

Also I said Safin can beat Nadal on grass because his game is a great matchup against Nadal and I think he can beat him anywhere outside clay.

thegre8w0n
07-01-2007, 02:21 PM
Like they said on ESPN2 they might as well give him the title. As for Roddick, Gasquet is playing well that is going to be tough a match.

User ID 29337
07-01-2007, 02:22 PM
Why don't we just hand him the trophy and make the finals about the fight for second place? Poor Haas that stinks for him. His year is not going well.

Veronique
07-01-2007, 02:23 PM
Federer should drag Tursunov on court and beat the crap out of him to get some practice before his QF match.

adee-gee
07-01-2007, 02:24 PM
Cming from you its hard to get offended. Federer doesnt need an easy draw as he straight seted Berdych, Ancic, Gasquet, Henman and Mahut last year, almost as difficult a draw can get. What he needs is match practice.

Del Potro>Udomchoke
Safin>Verdasco

Roddicks draw is still the easier and belive me Roddick needs an easy draw he can barely beat a top 10 player at all.
So if Nadal gets an easy draw on clay, you don't bitch? Do me a favour :spit:

Verdasco in the form he was in is a lot tougher than anyone Federer has had to play. Udomchoke on grass is also probably more dangerous than Del Potro.
Also I said Safin can beat Nadal on grass because his game is a great matchup against Nadal and I think he can beat him anywhere outside clay.
You're basing this on their large number of head to head meetings? :lol:

Fed=ATPTourkilla
07-01-2007, 02:26 PM
Federer's draw was about the same as Nadal's in terms of difficulty this year. Now it is obviously a lot easier because the second toughest player standing between him and the final (after his SF opponent) has pulled out.

To be honest the battle between Fedtards v Rafatards is just stupid this time because Nadal is not going to get to the final. He may get past Soderling and Youzhny (although I am not saying they are easy opponents) but Berdych will be the end of the line for him.

marcRD
07-01-2007, 02:31 PM
So if Nadal gets an easy draw on clay, you don't bitch? Do me a favour :spit:

Verdasco in the form he was in is a lot tougher than anyone Federer has had to play. Udomchoke on grass is also probably more dangerous than Del Potro.

You're basing this on their large number of head to head meetings? :lol:

Nadal can beat anyone on clay, it is not like if he won any RG because of easy draws. So yeah, he definetly doesnt need an easy draw on clay, I just said Nadals draw last year in wimbledon was ridiculous, I neer said anything about his draws on clay.

Verdasco is not thoghter than Safin, do you seriously rather have Roddick face Safin than Verdasco? You can not be serious.

Del Potro is a player who can cause alot more damage than Udomchoke, he beat Johansson on grass in queens and got to qf in nothingham. He has already done more in his young grass career than Udomchoke has done in his whole life.

marcRD
07-01-2007, 02:33 PM
You're basing this on their large number of head to head meetings? :lol:


I basing it on Safin beeig a power player with a huge serve. Like Berdych he has a huge backhand and would win duels crosscourt against Nadals forehand which is weak on grass. He would also put pressure on Nadals 2nd serves.

marcRD
07-01-2007, 02:34 PM
Federer's draw was about the same as Nadal's in terms of difficulty this year. Now it is obviously a lot easier because the second toughest player standing between him and the final (after his SF opponent) has pulled out.

To be honest the battle between Fedtards v Rafatards is just stupid this time because Nadal is not going to get to the final. He may get past Soderling and Youzhny (although I am not saying they are easy opponents) but Berdych will be the end of the line for him.

Nadals draw is harder this year than Federers draw, there is no doubt about that.

Action Jackson
07-01-2007, 02:35 PM
This thread is quality.

Jimnik
07-01-2007, 02:36 PM
The organisers must be pleased. Who will play on Centre now instead?

uNIVERSE mAN
07-01-2007, 02:37 PM
juniors are showing up now, Fed will be doing a lot of hitting with them.

marcRD
07-01-2007, 02:37 PM
This thread is quality.

:lol: Since I came here I have never heard you say a sentence without irony.

adee-gee
07-01-2007, 02:37 PM
Nadal can beat anyone on clay, it is not like if he won any RG because of easy draws. So yeah, he definetly doesnt need an easy draw on clay, I just said Nadals draw last year in wimbledon was ridiculous, I neer said anything about his draws on clay.

Verdasco is not thoghter than Safin, do you seriously rather have Roddick face Safin than Verdasco? You can not be serious.

Del Potro is a player who can cause alot more damage than Udomchoke, he beat Johansson on grass in queens and got to qf in nothingham. He has already done more in his young grass career than Udomchoke has done in his whole life.
Whether or not he needs an easy draw is irrelevant, the fact is it helps.

Verdasco had been playing fantastically well and yes, I seriously believe he's more dangerous than Safin on grass.

Johansson is absolutely pisspoor, he's lost something like 6 matches in a row so beating him hardly makes you good. Del Potro played on grass for the first time just a few weeks ago. Udomchoke beat Hernandez on grass which raises his profile ten-fold.

Action Jackson
07-01-2007, 02:39 PM
The organisers must be pleased. Who will play on Centre now instead?

Ali vs Showpony.

marcRD
07-01-2007, 02:45 PM
Whether or not he needs an easy draw is irrelevant, the fact is it helps.

Verdasco had been playing fantastically well and yes, I seriously believe he's more dangerous than Safin on grass.

Johansson is absolutely pisspoor, he's lost something like 6 matches in a row so beating him hardly makes you good. Del Potro played on grass for the first time just a few weeks ago. Udomchoke beat Hernandez on grass which raises his profile ten-fold.

I actually belive a hard draw helps Federer get into the rythm better on grass, he played flawless tennis last year, this year its not as perfect. I always want some difficult opponents to get in Federers quarter for both gret matches and seeing how Federer handles beeing challenged. Even if I know Gasquet will give Federer alot more trouble than Roddick, I want him to get to semifinal so I can watch a really good match (but I know Roddick will take Gasquet out anyway).

You make no points whatsoever on Roddicks opponents beeing difficult. Verdasco was straight setted agains Mirnyi in queens. :lol: He is spaniard and has never done anything on grass. Atleast Safin has been to the final in Halle and took a set from Federer.

As for Udomchoke, Hernandez tanked that match to prepare for wimbledon.

PS: Mathieu is almost as easy get past as bye.

Jimnik
07-01-2007, 02:49 PM
Ali vs Showpony.
I guess it was the easiest solution for them. Meanwhile, Baggy vs Fat Dave and Willy vs Llegs are left on the outside courts. The former won't even be televised.

Jlee
07-01-2007, 02:49 PM
That's awful! As if Roger's the one who needs a bye in this tournament :lol:

RonE
07-01-2007, 02:50 PM
:eek:

Didn't see this one coming. Poor Haas :sad: Get well soon :hug:

And as for Roger being lucky- well, I'm not so sure having such a long break will actually be in his favour. He will have had at least five days off between his third round match and his quarterfinal (Friday to Wednesday) he might go into his QF match a bit "cold".

adee-gee
07-01-2007, 02:51 PM
I actually belive a hard draw helps Federer get into the rythm better on grass, he played flawless tennis last year, this year its not as perfect. I always want some difficult opponents to get in Federers quarter for both gret matches and seeing how Federer handles beeing challenged. Even if I know Gasquet will give Federer alot more trouble than Roddick, I want him to get to semifinal so I can watch a really good match (but I know Roddick will take Gasquet out anyway).

You make no points whatsoever on Roddicks opponents beeing difficult. Verdasco was straight setted agains Mirnyi in queens. :lol: He is spaniard and has never done anything on grass. Atleast Safin has been to the final in Halle and took a set from Federer.

As for Udomchoke, Hernandez tanked that match to prepare for wimbledon.
Gasquet will give Federer about as much trouble as Roddick would - very little, if not less.

I was at all 3 of Verdasco's matches this week, he was playing fantastically well. He's a dangerous opponent to anyone when he's playing like he was, but he didn't play that well against Roddick. He reached the 4th round at Wimbledon last year, beating Nalbandian in straight sets and led Stepanek 2-1 which would've put him in the QF. At Queens he had a couple of good wins and should've taken out Nadal but lost in 3 very tight sets.

Tankman
07-01-2007, 02:56 PM
Ha ha... Roger gets a bye, instead of those poor sods who haven't even played their third round matches yet. I guess the only ones who would be definitely happy with this are the organisers.

Action Jackson
07-01-2007, 02:57 PM
:lol: Since I came here I have never heard you say a sentence without irony.

I never use irony.

MurrayFan1
07-01-2007, 03:00 PM
Laaaaame.

Jade Fox
07-01-2007, 03:00 PM
That's awful! As if Roger's the one who needs a bye in this tournament :lol:

I know right! It's like the Tennis Gods are conspiring to make sure Roger has the title. Not that I mind if Roger wins Of course, they could be conspiring to make sure that he doesn't. It's hard to tell with the Tennis Gods. Every now and then they like to throw a wrench into the system.:p

R.Federer
07-01-2007, 03:12 PM
This is too bad. It would have been such a good match to watch, I think.

And Federer, well he could have used some more grass court matches (if) he were to progress.

the answer
07-01-2007, 03:13 PM
Um, no.

Brad Gilbert says that Rafa is the best player at Wimbledon this year. Now, that seems like a stretch, but obviously, if a tennis mind like Gilbert (regardless of how you view his personality) sees him this way, there is NO way Safin would have even won a set.

Mental midget vs. mental giant. Case closed.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . :spit:

RonE
07-01-2007, 03:13 PM
Damn it. I was looking forward to this match, plus it's gonna tarnish Federer's fifth victory.

Put Hewitt vs. Canas on Centre now!

Did the walkover Federer had against Andrei Pavel in the 4th round of the 2004 U.S. Open in any way "tarnsih" his run to the title that year? :rolleyes:

guga2120
07-01-2007, 03:17 PM
Roger you lucky bastard.

GonzoFed
07-01-2007, 03:25 PM
Roger you lucky bastard.

Hahahahaha..yes indeed. Haas would have schooled the overrated Ego King in straights :p

PS: Seriously, tough luck for Haas. Hope he recovers soon. He acts like an asshole sometimes on court but i'm a fan of his all around game.

mashamaniac
07-01-2007, 03:34 PM
roger "mr. f***ing lucky" federer is again in the QFs! when will that luck charm go away from roger??

The_Nadal_effect
07-01-2007, 03:34 PM
:haha: :haha: @ Leng Jai (For dreaming that Ego King would be Haasinated)!

Easy walk into QF for Ego King now, while the Spartan will have twice as many matches to play within next week. Ego King is unfairly advantaged at his favourite surface. :haha:

I :hearts: nerdy MTF humour!

fischo
07-01-2007, 03:36 PM
With hass withdrawn ,is it going to be count 52 streak for fed?

federated
07-01-2007, 03:37 PM
poor haas. :sad:

mashamaniac
07-01-2007, 03:37 PM
Roger you lucky bastard.

that's just so true!:worship: :worship:

mashamaniac
07-01-2007, 03:40 PM
With hass withdrawn ,is it going to be count 52 streak for fed?

i think so...:confused: :sad:

The_Nadal_effect
07-01-2007, 03:40 PM
With hass withdrawn ,is it going to be count 52 streak for fed?

That would suck! He has to play and win:(

Warrior
07-01-2007, 03:42 PM
poor tommy :sad:

MCL
07-01-2007, 03:47 PM
No, his streak stays at 51.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/news;_ylt=AtlFRrkU.bNue4FZyRwkcHM4v7YF?slug=ap-wimbledon-haaswithdraws&prov=ap&type=lgns

Exodus
07-01-2007, 03:55 PM
tommy sucks i just can't remember how many times he have withdrawn from a major tournament. he knocks some a good player out and is exhausted to death lol

David Kenzie
07-01-2007, 03:57 PM
With hass withdrawn ,is it going to be count 52 streak for fed?

Of course not. It doesn't count in his H2H with Haas either.

jazar
07-01-2007, 04:05 PM
so rog doesnt get the chance to beat him

Marek.
07-01-2007, 04:06 PM
Damn, this sucks.:( I was looking forward to their match, it would have been really good. Hopefully this is nothing too serious for Haas as his favorite part of the season is coming up and it would be terrible if he was injured for it.

As for Federer, he might be a bit cold for his next match but it shouldn't hurt him too much. He'll probably find someone to practice with anyway.

judeluo
07-01-2007, 04:06 PM
Not necessarily a good news for Rogi.

Tommy is a good enough player to put some heat on Rogi on fast court. Now Rogi needs to find some way to keep his momentum going.

And we missed a potentially enjoyable match...:rolleyes:

njnetswill
07-01-2007, 04:08 PM
Poor Dmitry. They should let him play Fed. :lol:

LLeytonRules
07-01-2007, 04:09 PM
LMAO at some of the anti-fed comments.Where have u been the last 4 years during wimbledon?Fed doesnt need any breaks to win wimbledon.It will not tarnish his 5th in a row if he wins!!!!!!

LLeytonRules
07-01-2007, 04:12 PM
As i see it,Haas saved himself a straight set loss.

Argenbrit
07-01-2007, 04:14 PM
:eek: Poor Tommy. :sad:

Baghdatis72
07-01-2007, 04:59 PM
He seems to get injured quite often lately :(

tangerine_dream
07-01-2007, 05:03 PM
Roger and his ridiculous luck. He should use his good fortune to call me and give me the Powerball Lottery numbers before the drawing. :aplot:

Poor Tommy and his cursed, rotten luck. It just never ends for him. Why? :sad: :hug:

Kitty de Sade
07-01-2007, 05:07 PM
Roger and his ridiculous luck. He should use his good fortune to call me and give me the Powerball Lottery numbers before the drawing. :aplot:

Poor Tommy and his cursed, rotten luck. It just never ends for him. Why? :sad: :hug:

I was just thinking the same thing about Haas. Didn't he suffer that horrible ankle injury at Wimbledon a few years back?

It really is like one thing after another with him. Such a shame.

*Viva Chile*
07-01-2007, 05:09 PM
Fed, you lucky bastard :p

NyGeL
07-01-2007, 05:14 PM
now Nalbandian vs Baghdatis should be moved to CC!!!

ReturnWinner
07-01-2007, 05:15 PM
poor tommy haas,always unlucky with injuries

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-01-2007, 05:16 PM
Federer must have sold his soul to the devil.

Lucky clown.

R.Federer
07-01-2007, 05:16 PM
With hass withdrawn ,is it going to be count 52 streak for fed?
Yes it will.

Apparently, if Federer had been the one to withdraw, it would also not break the streak. This was the same as at Rome this year for Nadal when he was contemplating withdrawing.

Baghdatis72
07-01-2007, 05:26 PM
now Nalbandian vs Baghdatis should be moved to CC!!!

There's no change on the website :(

We'll still watch Serena and A Rod.

victory1
07-01-2007, 05:30 PM
There's no change on the website :(

We'll still watch Serena and A Rod.

They moved Gasquet match to Center Court!!

Centre Court

11:00 am Start
1 Ladies' Singles - 4th Rnd.
Justine Henin (BEL)[1]
v. Patty Schnyder (SUI)[15]



2 Ladies' Singles - 4th Rnd.
Daniela Hantuchova (SVK)[10]
v. Serena Williams (USA)[7]



3 Gentlemen's Singles - 4th Rnd.
Andy Roddick (USA)[3]
v. Paul-Henri Mathieu (FRA)



4 Gentlemen's Singles - 4th Rnd.
Richard Gasquet (FRA)[12]
v. Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (FRA)

Baghdatis72
07-01-2007, 05:32 PM
They moved Gasquet match to Center Court!!

Centre Court

11:00 am Start
1 Ladies' Singles - 4th Rnd.
Justine Henin (BEL)[1]
v. Patty Schnyder (SUI)[15]



2 Ladies' Singles - 4th Rnd.
Daniela Hantuchova (SVK)[10]
v. Serena Williams (USA)[7]



3 Gentlemen's Singles - 4th Rnd.
Andy Roddick (USA)[3]
v. Paul-Henri Mathieu (FRA)



4 Gentlemen's Singles - 4th Rnd.
Richard Gasquet (FRA)[12]
v. Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (FRA)

Yeah and Baggy with Nalby are still on court 11. After they play the boys start playing :o

That's a total sidelining.

World Beater
07-01-2007, 05:34 PM
Um, no.

Brad Gilbert says that Rafa is the best player at Wimbledon this year. Now, that seems like a stretch, but obviously, if a tennis mind like Gilbert (regardless of how you view his personality) sees him this way, there is NO way Safin would have even won a set.

Mental midget vs. mental giant. Case closed.

:haha:

gilbert is a bandwagoning clown. Safin would have won a set against nadal at the very least.

World Beater
07-01-2007, 05:42 PM
if roger wins this wimbledon, there should be an asterisk next to it in the history books.

Mateya
07-01-2007, 05:53 PM
:spit:

OMG, Fed now breezed effortlessly to QF, while bottom half of the draw still have 3rd round matches to play :mad: :confused: :retard:

Being fresh as a daisy he will win the title again, probably the easiest of them all...:rolleyes:

victory1
07-01-2007, 05:56 PM
:spit:

OMG, Fed now breezed effortlessly to QF, while bottom half of the draw still have 3rd round matches to play :mad: :confused: :retard:

Being fresh as a daisy he will win the title again, probably the easiest of them all...:rolleyes:

Yeah, that's the only reason he will win if he does win!:rolleyes: I mean wining 4 in a row and being undefeated in grass for over 4 years is a fluke!:p He needs all the luck in the world to win Wimbledon!:wavey:

sawan66278
07-01-2007, 05:57 PM
I wonder if Tommy was aware of how severe the injury was during his match against Dmitri. If so, he should have withdrawn at that juncture. A pity...for the tourney...but then again, Wimbledon this year has again proven to be, aside from historical reputation, the "sham of the slams".

R.Federer
07-01-2007, 05:58 PM
:spit:

OMG, Fed now breezed effortlessly to QF, while bottom half of the draw still have 3rd round matches to play :mad: :confused: :retard:

Being fresh as a daisy he will win the title again, probably the easiest of them all...:rolleyes:

It might help him, if the weather is poor the next several days so that his QF opponent has to play two matches in back to back days.

But it could also hurt him if he needs match play (he might-- he has played only 3 matches on grass since July 2006).

victory1
07-01-2007, 06:00 PM
I wonder if Tommy was aware of how severe the injury was during his match against Dmitri. If so, he should have withdrawn at that juncture. A pity...for the tourney...but then again, Wimbledon this year has again proven to be, aside from historical reputation, the "sham of the slams".

A sham Piggy would sell his soul to win!!!:wavey: "I won't rest until I win Wimbledon, Si!":D

R.Federer
07-01-2007, 06:00 PM
I wonder if Tommy was aware of how severe the injury was during his match against Dmitri. If so, he should have withdrawn at that juncture. A pity...for the tourney...but then again, Wimbledon this year has again proven to be, aside from historical reputation, the "sham of the slams".
He said in his interview that he expected to be fine by Monday. If he felt good enough to play in that match against Dmitri, there is no reason he should have withdrawn. He had 2 days to recover, and a chance to play Federer on Center court. Haas of all people (given his history) would not risk long term injury and play on if he felt he needed to retire during that match.

FedFan_2007
07-01-2007, 06:33 PM
All I'm worried is that this tarnishes a 5th straight title. People will say that in 2007 he only had to win 6 matches, but injuries are part of the game. I bet TMF himself is very disappointed, as he's been in good form and was looking forward to Monday's 4th round match.

Bobby
07-01-2007, 06:40 PM
All I'm worried is that this tarnishes a 5th straight title. People will say that in 2007 he only had to win 6 matches, but injuries are part of the game. I bet TMF himself is very disappointed, as he's been in good form and was looking forward to Monday's 4th round match.

Some people will say that, there's no doubt. I've always said that who ever wins a tennis tournament, is the best player that week. Injuries, bad bounces, lucky shots are all part of the game. But whoever wins the last match of the tournament deserves to be the champion.

Eden
07-01-2007, 06:43 PM
I bet TMF himself is very disappointed, as he's been in good form and was looking forward to Monday's 4th round match.

According to a report in the German press Haas told Roger himself that he won't be able to play on Monday and he said that Roger was very disappointed not to play against his friend Tommy.

Forehander
07-01-2007, 06:46 PM
just hope Fed is ready for whatever comes up against him since he miss this match that was meant to be awesome.

martine2
07-01-2007, 06:54 PM
Federer can't help it that Tommy got hurt, so no need at all to blame him :(

So sad for Tommy :sad: :sad: Always injuries...
His was clear that he was suffering during the match against Tursunov, but I had no idea it would be that bad...
Hope he recovers soon!

NYCtennisfan
07-01-2007, 06:57 PM
Poor Haas and his injuries...justplain bad luck all throughout his career. Hope he's better for the summer hard season.

As for Federer, this could actually hurt as has been pointed out. He's not going to be in rhythm for the QF match and his opponent might take advantage.

As for any "tarnishing" of the great achievement of winning 5 in a row...not very likely. HOw many people remember that the first of McEnroe's 4 USO titles had him only winning 5 matches?

<Eve>
07-01-2007, 06:57 PM
Yeah and Baggy with Nalby are still on court 11. After they play the boys start playing :o

That's a total sidelining.:wavey: i really dont get the OOP Wimby makes...

:bigcry: Haas is soooo unlucky... But he'll be back even better at the US Open :yeah: :angel:

NYCtennisfan
07-01-2007, 06:58 PM
just hope Fed is ready for whatever comes up against him since he miss this match that was meant to be awesome.

It could've been good, who knows, but most likely it was a straight sets win for Federer.

Skyward
07-01-2007, 06:59 PM
Some people will say that, there's no doubt.

Who? Nobody said that his 2004 USO title was tarnished (Pavel withdrew then). R=FK's brigade members don't count.

Bobby
07-01-2007, 07:02 PM
It could've been good, who knows, but most likely it was a straight sets win for Federer.

I agree with you. I enjoy watching Haas play, but his game just isn't effective enough to beat Federer. There would have been some beautiful tennis, but it probably wouldn't have been a tight match.

<Eve>
07-01-2007, 07:08 PM
I agree with you. I enjoy watching Haas play, but his game just isn't effective enough to beat Federer. There would have been some beautiful tennis, but it probably wouldn't have been a tight match. I think he would've had a chance... I didnt think Federer was really playing his best tennis agains Safin, so I think Haas and some other players are in the position to win...

But, as Haas and Fed are almost ALWAYS in the same part of the draw, I think they will meet soon at US open and then we'll see what Haas can do :D

Eden
07-01-2007, 07:12 PM
:lol: he had one serious wrist injury before he became no.1 then no big injuries.

He had a rupture of a muscle fibre in the autumn of 2005 which forced him to cancel the tournaments in Basel and Paris.

I'm fed up with reading that Roger is lucky not to get more injuries. I will never understand people who are hoping for the injury of a player.

NYCtennisfan
07-01-2007, 07:25 PM
I think he would've had a chance... I didnt think Federer was really playing his best tennis agains Safin, so I think Haas and some other players are in the position to win...

But, as Haas and Fed are almost ALWAYS in the same part of the draw, I think they will meet soon at US open and then we'll see what Haas can do :D

Federer has dominated Haas as much as he as dominated anyone on tour in their previous 7 meetings.

-Federer has broken Haas 20 times in that period and Haas had broken Federer 2 times (both at the AO)

-Federer has not lost serve in the other 6 matches in the winning streak.

-Federer has held serve 40 times in a row against Haas

-Haas has never broken him on grass

Seleshfan
07-01-2007, 07:28 PM
Federer has dominated Haas as much as he as dominated anyone on tour in their previous 7 meetings.

-Federer has broken Haas 20 times in that period and Haas had broken Federer 2 times (both at the AO)

-Federer has not lost serve in the other 6 matches in the winning streak.

-Federer has held serve 40 times in a row against Haas

-Haas has never broken him on grass

:worship: You are simply the King of Stats!

Ales_Alessandra
07-01-2007, 07:34 PM
"Haas called for the trainer during the second set, when he was treated and given painkillers. The German said the pain felt much worse Saturday and that tests showed the muscle was bleeding."

Poor Tommy!! :sad: :hug:

avocadoe
07-01-2007, 07:39 PM
poor tommy, hope he's better soon...

tennisgal_001
07-01-2007, 07:45 PM
I am disappointed but I hope Haas' injury heels in time for Montreal/Cincy AMS. I doubt this will have a dramatic effect on Roger's preparation for the quaterfinals, but I'm positive that he doesn't need to rely on luck when he's the 4-time defending champion. Match practice against quality opposition like Haas would've been ideal, but we all know that with Federer, there's always a plan B.

gillian
07-01-2007, 07:47 PM
Sucks. I would have liked to see this match.

adynadal
07-01-2007, 07:52 PM
Poor,poor Tommy!!!it looks like he`s done something really bad in the past because God keeps on taking painful revanges over him!!!Get well soon,Tommy!We Love You!

FedFan_2007
07-01-2007, 07:57 PM
TMF would be the first to say that 5 days between matches will disrupt his rythym, however he always will say that it's about being mentally tough to overcome obstacles...

I know this for a fact when I'm on my job and the copier is on the fritz and my boss is screaming for those 100 copies and I have to figure out solutions fast... No room for mental untoughness in that situation, I usually rise to challenge like Federer in grand slams. I'm no. 1 ranked copier/filier/collater in my office! Not a transtional #1 either!

Voo de Mar
07-01-2007, 08:00 PM
Poor,poor Tommy!!!it looks like he`s done something really bad in the past because God keeps on taking painful revanges over him!!!Get well soon,Tommy!We Love You!

Maybe has done also many good things because - leaving out - his many injuries, he is still a rich tennis star :D

azinna
07-01-2007, 08:13 PM
Again? This isn't bad luck, folks; it's a hex. If he were back home in Nigeria, he'd be at the witchdoctor's, finding out who's behind all this.

Federerhingis
07-01-2007, 08:23 PM
Poor Tommy ... Get well soon :hug:

There has always been something with the Germans and Federer, Kiefer used to give him fits all the time and Haas actually had Fed's number didn't he early on?

This is indeed disappointing and quite bad for Haas, the poor guy doesn't get a break, first the injuries, then his parents accident, some more injuries which almost forced him to retire and now this, Gosh hopefully he'l get to play for a few more years and with good health of course. He's got a fun game to watch.

El Legenda
07-01-2007, 08:26 PM
good call Haas, saved yourself from an ass kicking

El Legenda
07-01-2007, 08:27 PM
I think he would've had a chance... I didnt think Federer was really playing his best tennis agains Safin, so I think Haas and some other players are in the position to win...

But, as Haas and Fed are almost ALWAYS in the same part of the draw, I think they will meet soon at US open and then we'll see what Haas can do :D

:haha: plz stop with the comedy. he would have been lucky not to get a bagel or a breadstick :)

Jaap
07-01-2007, 08:29 PM
Tommy bottled it.

stebs
07-01-2007, 08:34 PM
This sucks for Haas and sucks for Wimbledon, could've been a really great match to watch regardless of how close. Get well soon Tommy and assuming Federer would've won this match it is probably more disruptive than it is a blessing.

sawan66278
07-01-2007, 08:52 PM
If Federer wins the title this year, his having a bye to the quarters with the default in NO WAY diminishes his victory. The media would never make an issue of it; it would be a factoid lost in history.

Ivan Lendl won the Aussie Open when Stefan Edberg withdrew with an injury in the final. No one even mentions this when talking about Ivan's slam total.

Besides, its not like Roger is some clown who has never won before. He has won the last four years. I believe that back in the olden days, champions were placed in the finals automatically...where they faced the surviving challenger.

stebs
07-01-2007, 09:21 PM
If Federer wins the title this year, his having a bye to the quarters with the default in NO WAY diminishes his victory. The media would never make an issue of it; it would be a factoid lost in history.

Ivan Lendl won the Aussie Open when Stefan Edberg withdrew with an injury in the final. No one even mentions this when talking about Ivan's slam total.

Besides, its not like Roger is some clown who has never won before. He has won the last four years. I believe that back in the olden days, champions were placed in the finals automatically...where they faced the surviving challenger.

The golden era. :p

Baghdatis72
07-01-2007, 09:28 PM
He had a rupture of a muscle fibre in the autumn of 2005 which forced him to cancel the tournaments in Basel and Paris.

I'm fed up with reading that Roger is lucky not to get more injuries. I will never understand people who are hoping for the injury of a player.

Actually Federer doesn't get injured too often because he cleverly and strategically schedules his tournament participation throughout the year. This way he gets enough points to remain number 1 by a big margin and also he doesn't strain himself too much and minimizes the probability of getting injured.
Even more his court movement is so natural and smooth that excessive strain is taken off the legs and back.

Luck also helps of course ;)

marcRD
07-01-2007, 09:39 PM
Actually Federer doesn't get injured too often because he cleverly and strategically schedules his tournament participation throughout the year. This way he gets enough points to remain number 1 by a big margin and also he doesn't strain himself too much and minimizes the probability of getting injured.
Even more his court movement is so natural and smooth that excessive strain is taken off the legs and back.

Luck also helps of course ;)

I think it has more to do with his footwork, he played more matches than anyone else last year.

Bilbo
07-01-2007, 09:48 PM
lucky one, roger

Baghdatis72
07-01-2007, 09:52 PM
I think it has more to do with his footwork, he played more matches than anyone else last year.

Only he knows best ;)

stebs
07-01-2007, 09:53 PM
lucky one, roger

Expected withdrawal.

Skyward
07-01-2007, 10:07 PM
Expected withdrawal.

:lol:

Tnn74
07-01-2007, 10:10 PM
unbelievable. I cannot believe Roger's luck this year at Wimbledon :banghead:
damn lucky bastard! :mad:
Tommy :awww:

Scotso
07-01-2007, 10:19 PM
What's with Haas withdrawing now when he may not have had to play until Thursday or later? It seems to me he just didn't want to play Federer. :help:

This is really, really annoying. Federer is already in the QF while the bottom half haven't even played their 3rd round matches. This definitely gives him a huge advantage, and if he wasn't assured of the title before, he certainly is now. :rolleyes:

Marek.
07-01-2007, 10:24 PM
Federer had to play 4 matches in 5 days at the USO last year and that didn't stop him. :shrug:

Tnn74
07-01-2007, 10:31 PM
With hass withdrawn ,is it going to be count 52 streak for fed?

Yahoo noted, "Because Haas pulled out before the match, it goes into the books as a walkover, and Federer will not get credit for a victory. So the Swiss star's winning streak at Wimbledon stays at 31 matches, and his record run on grass courts stays at 51."

cardio
07-01-2007, 10:42 PM
Yes it will.

Apparently, if Federer had been the one to withdraw, it would also not break the streak. This was the same as at Rome this year for Nadal when he was contemplating withdrawing.

As far as I know, walkover is not win. Feds streak is still alive, but it is 51.His Wimbledon winning streak is 31 and to beat Borgs record 41 he must win this tournament, next one in 2008 and in the first round of 2009 Wimby. By the way Washington Post wrote the same thing today :

Because Haas pulled out before the match, it goes into the books as a walkover, and Federer will not get credit for a victory. So the Swiss star's winning streak at Wimbledon stays at 31 matches, and his record run on grass courts stays at 51.

megadeth
07-01-2007, 10:43 PM
so does this count as # 51?

SixPack
07-01-2007, 10:44 PM
Federer got extremely lucky because with a healthy Haas, I think he would have beat Federer in 5 sets. You got lucky Federer.

megadeth
07-01-2007, 10:53 PM
yea sure, if it was safin who retired, everyone wouldsay the same thing, but guess who lost in straights? :rolleyes:

the rafatards are now being set up for an excuse once nadal loses between rnds-semis...

Baghdatis72
07-01-2007, 10:54 PM
Federer got extremely lucky because with a healthy Haas, I think he would have beat Federer in 5 sets. You got lucky Federer.

:o :scratch: :speakles: :eek:

Sunset of Age
07-01-2007, 10:55 PM
Federer got extremely lucky because with a healthy Haas, I think he would have beat Federer in 5 sets. You got lucky Federer.

Yes, of course. Haas has Fed's number, everybody knows that! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Marek.
07-01-2007, 10:58 PM
Federer got extremely lucky because with a healthy Haas, I think he would have beat Federer in 5 sets. You got lucky Federer.

Yes, the arrogant King of Egos prevailed once again with his damn luck. His run will finally come to an end when he will be humiliated in the finals by the Spartan King. Vamos!

Skyward
07-01-2007, 10:58 PM
Federer got extremely lucky because with a healthy Haas, I think he would have beat Federer in 5 sets. You got lucky Federer.

5 sets? Why would it take so long? :rolleyes:

Baghdatis72
07-01-2007, 11:10 PM
5 sets? Why would it take so long? :rolleyes:

It would be like 6-1 7-5 6-3 for Haas then :rolleyes: :haha:

SixPack strikes again :lol:

hammett
07-01-2007, 11:26 PM
I know this for a fact when I'm on my job and the copier is on the fritz and my boss is screaming for those 100 copies and I have to figure out solutions fast... No room for mental untoughness in that situation, I usually rise to challenge like Federer in grand slams. I'm no. 1 ranked copier/filier/collater in my office! Not a transtional #1 either!

If you were Federer-like, you'd be your own boss. :angel:

j/k :D

lazyman
07-01-2007, 11:36 PM
i dont think haas would of withdrawn if his opponent was wayne or jonas. he probally knows if he plays he would have to work really hard to have a chance and he might not be up to it in his condition so he chose to withdraw to stay healthy. nothing wrong with that its a sensible decision

R.Federer
07-01-2007, 11:47 PM
As far as I know, walkover is not win. Feds streak is still alive, but it is 51.His Wimbledon winning streak is 31 and to beat Borgs record 41 he must win this tournament, next one in 2008 and in the first round of 2009 Wimby. By the way Washington Post wrote the same thing today :

Because Haas pulled out before the match, it goes into the books as a walkover, and Federer will not get credit for a victory. So the Swiss star's winning streak at Wimbledon stays at 31 matches, and his record run on grass courts stays at 51.

Yes I think that's correct. I meant that his winning streak is not broken (I did not actually think of whether it affected the number).

I was more interested in highlighting that EVEN if Federer were the one who withdrew, the streak would be alive. That is what I learned during Rome this year, when nadal was contemplating withdrawing.

Beforehand
07-01-2007, 11:55 PM
As a Federer fan, I think I'd rather he have played to keep rhythm. I don't like the 5 days off, at a a minimum, but I'd much rather he go into a quarterfinal with no rhythm than a match with Roddick or something.

lazyman
07-01-2007, 11:59 PM
As a Federer fan, I think I'd rather he have played to keep rhythm. I don't like the 5 days off, at a a minimum, but I'd much rather he go into a quarterfinal with no rhythm than a match with Roddick or something.


i dont think fed will be troubled by the time off he is to good to lose in quarters and will almost definitely get to semis without losing a set i reckon

NYCtennisfan
07-02-2007, 12:18 AM
5 sets? Why would it take so long? :rolleyes:

:lol: 6-0, 6-2 (mercy games), 6-0 is more like it.

RagingLamb
07-02-2007, 12:21 AM
too bad, would've been nice to see.

star
07-02-2007, 12:32 AM
Oh, this is too bad. Stomach injuries can be very difficult. :sad:

FedFan_2007
07-02-2007, 01:22 AM
I read that that the ab muscle was actually bleeding. Ouch. Imagine all the twisting these guys do on their shots, it's a wonder they don't get more ab pulls.

SixPack
07-02-2007, 02:04 AM
Only if Tommy Haas had kept working on his six pack abs. I think the reason he got injured is because he lost focus on his diet and he neglected working on his abs. With a healthy six pack abs, you almost will never see an ab injury.

FedFan_2007
07-02-2007, 02:41 AM
Only if Tommy Haas had kept working on his six pack abs. I think the reason he got injured is because he lost focus on his diet and he neglected working on his abs. With a healthy six pack abs, you almost will never see an ab injury.

Your kidding right? Haas has the best 6-pack on tour. If NOT having a 6-pack increases likelihood of injury, how come Federer hasn't had one?

Tennis Fool
07-02-2007, 02:58 AM
Too bad. Haas and Wimbledon don't mix.

I♥PsY@Mus!c
07-02-2007, 03:06 AM
Tommy is very unlucky. :sad:

Fedex
07-02-2007, 03:49 AM
This is really unfortunate for Haas. I think he could've made that match with Federer a competitive one, so thats a shame. I hope he has a quick recovery.

Tennis Fool
07-02-2007, 04:13 AM
This is really unfortunate for Haas. I think he could've made that match with Federer a competitive one, so thats a shame. I hope he has a quick recovery.

Yeah, the more I think about it, the more it dampens my spirits.

With Safin out, Haas was the most dangerous player for Federer. He probably would have had a better start than Safin, even taking a set, maybe.

Of the other players left in the draw:

First Half
1. Ferrero may give some fight, but probably not take a set.
2. Tipsaravic--forget about it.
3. Roddick--nope.
4. PHM--right.
5. Gasquet-depends on which Gasquet shows up.
6. Tsonga--I have no idea. I haven't seen him play, but know he's good. Could be entertaining, and Federer historically has trouble against young guys he's never played before.


Second Half
Now skipping the guys who have no chance :)
1. Nalbandian--Not the same player who used to own Fed, but could be an interesting match, esp. since they've never played each other on grass.
2. Canas--Now this would be an interesting match.
3. Kiefer--Has played Federer tough. Could be interesting.
4. Djokovic--I think his upset is bound to happen soon.
5. Berdych--See Gasquet.
6. Nadal--Well, you know...

lazyman
07-02-2007, 05:04 AM
u missed hewitt he has a good chance of reaching the final even if he will probally lose. id give him a chance though

mestiza
07-02-2007, 05:14 AM
That sucks, all the best for Haas on a speedy recovery. :sad:

Tennis Fool
07-02-2007, 05:15 AM
u missed hewitt he has a good chance of reaching the final even if he will probally lose. id give him a chance though

Hi,

I didn't miss Hewitt, I just don't think he'd put up much of a fight against Federer.

Rogiman
07-02-2007, 05:48 AM
played each other on grass.
2. Canas--Now this would be an interesting match.
:haha:

The_Nadal_effect
07-02-2007, 06:00 AM
:eek: Appalled by the number of users on this thread who feel that Fed's victory would be considered fluke because Haas pulled off.

Winning 4 slams and on his way to the fifth one...clam down people! One can't blame him for breezing through a tournament because no one puts pression on him. :shrug:

bokehlicious
07-02-2007, 06:15 AM
:eek: Appalled by the number of users on this thread who feel that Fed's victory would be considered fluke because Haas pulled off.

The bunch of haters increase every day ;)

Oliboyz
07-02-2007, 06:21 AM
Imagine in QF if Tipsy can beat Ferrero in 5 set again. Fed plays only 9 easy set, but Tipsy will play 20 tight set. ;)

my0118
07-02-2007, 06:29 AM
lucky Fed who doesn't need any luck.

stebs
07-02-2007, 08:11 AM
Hi,

I didn't miss Hewitt, I just don't think he'd put up much of a fight against Federer.

Rating Canas, Nalbandian, Djokovic, Kiefer, Berdych and Nadal all above Hewitt on grass is ridiculous.

Rogiman
07-02-2007, 08:19 AM
Rating Canas, Nalbandian, Djokovic, Kiefer, Berdych and Nadal all above Hewitt on grass is ridiculous.At least the first one is absurd.

baghdatis
07-02-2007, 08:31 AM
Yeah, the more I think about it, the more it dampens my spirits.

With Safin out, Haas was the most dangerous player for Federer. He probably would have had a better start than Safin, even taking a set, maybe.

Of the other players left in the draw:

First Half
1. Ferrero may give some fight, but probably not take a set.
2. Tipsaravic--forget about it.
3. Roddick--nope.
4. PHM--right.
5. Gasquet-depends on which Gasquet shows up.
6. Tsonga--I have no idea. I haven't seen him play, but know he's good. Could be entertaining, and Federer historically has trouble against young guys he's never played before.


Second Half
Now skipping the guys who have no chance :)
1. Nalbandian--Not the same player who used to own Fed, but could be an interesting match, esp. since they've never played each other on grass.
2. Canas--Now this would be an interesting match.
3. Kiefer--Has played Federer tough. Could be interesting.
4. Djokovic--I think his upset is bound to happen soon.
5. Berdych--See Gasquet.
6. Nadal--Well, you know...


wait so you did't even think about baggy! :confused: :rolleyes:

RonE
07-02-2007, 08:52 AM
:eek: Appalled by the number of users on this thread who feel that Fed's victory would be considered fluke because Haas pulled off.


Welcome to the wonderful world of the Fed fans (tards) :hug:

Rogiman
07-02-2007, 08:53 AM
wait so you did't even think about baggy! :confused: :rolleyes:He's not a threat against the big guns, as Nadal showed last year.

Sean.J.S.
07-02-2007, 08:55 AM
Tommy. :sad:

Not only am I sad that Tommy is out, but I was also really looking forward to this match against Roger. :(

baghdatis
07-02-2007, 08:59 AM
He's not a threat against the big guns, as Nadal showed last year.

Yeah but last year he beat Hewitt, Murray and Grosean!

ca1houn
07-02-2007, 09:05 AM
:devil: Great no point wasting federer time

stebs
07-02-2007, 10:34 AM
He's not a threat against the big guns, as Nadal showed last year.

This is not to do with some kind of inferiority complex or anything like that, he simply matches up terrible with Nadal.

Baghdatis is actually a similar player to Federer from the back of the court despite having a two hander and they play a similar agressive game looking to control the point with forehand and get on to the forehand by manipulating the ball with the backhand. Of course, Federer is hugely superior which is why he still matches up to Nadal on a faster surface. For Baggy the bad match-up plus the fact that he isn't really GS winning quality player right now equals defeat to Nadal.

Furthermore, the GS semi last year between Nadal and Baggy was the best Nadal has ever played on grass IMO.

drf716
07-02-2007, 10:43 AM
smart move by haas.

CarstenL01
07-02-2007, 11:52 AM
I guess they both play with a racquet so they definitely play the same way... :rolleyes: Get a clue you pathetic fangirl...

Federer himsels says that they play similar, so....

There's only one who has no clue and that's you :lol:

Kuhne
07-02-2007, 04:59 PM
Whoa, Federer is great

NYCtennisfan
07-02-2007, 05:21 PM
Yeah, the more I think about it, the more it dampens my spirits.

With Safin out, Haas was the most dangerous player for Federer. He probably would have had a better start than Safin, even taking a set, maybe.

Of the other players left in the draw:

First Half
1. Ferrero may give some fight, but probably not take a set.
2. Tipsaravic--forget about it.
3. Roddick--nope.
4. PHM--right.
5. Gasquet-depends on which Gasquet shows up.
6. Tsonga--I have no idea. I haven't seen him play, but know he's good. Could be entertaining, and Federer historically has trouble against young guys he's never played before.


Second Half
Now skipping the guys who have no chance :)
1. Nalbandian--Not the same player who used to own Fed, but could be an interesting match, esp. since they've never played each other on grass.
2. Canas--Now this would be an interesting match.
3. Kiefer--Has played Federer tough. Could be interesting.
4. Djokovic--I think his upset is bound to happen soon.
5. Berdych--See Gasquet.
6. Nadal--Well, you know...

Haas has less of a chance against Federer than most and less than what Safin had and was certainly not the most dangerous player for Federer. Federer has beaten him 7 times in a row and out of 6 of those wins, Haas didn't even break him. Two or three times he didn't even have breakpoint. Federer has held 40+ straight times against him and on and on.

The players that I see troubling Federer the most are Nalbandian if he is playing really well and is fit, along with Andy Murray. Then maybe Djokovic, Roddick, and Nadal. People forget that Roddick is the last player to take a set outright from Federer at Wimbledon (of course that's when he still has a FH) and still has a better chance than Gasquet, Berdych and certainly Canas.

scarecrows
07-02-2007, 06:13 PM
Being Swiss doesn't mean being blind and brainless... I've seen the light now :cool: :p ;)

I'm happy for you

Fed, you lucky bastard :mad:

bokehlicious
07-02-2007, 06:18 PM
I'm happy for you

Fed, you lucky bastard :mad:

:cool: Glad to see you've seen the light too buddy, give him some time and RFK will heal the soul of all the Fedtards... vamos sparta ! :rocker2: