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Who is the thief in the Male locker room?

Jaap
06-27-2007, 11:06 AM
http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_tennisblog/2007/06/major_major_pro.html

Jonas Bjorkman, who usually doesn't get steamed about anything except cold Swedish meatballs, is furious about an increasing amount of wallet theft in ATP locker rooms, including a handful of incidents at the Sony Ericsson Open on Key Biscayne earlier this year.

"It's happened at Indian Wells, Key Biscayne, the Australian Open, the French Open, Queens. It's become a very serious problem and we're going to be bringing it up at the players meeting at Wimbledon," said Bjorkman.

It's happened so often that Bjorkman is concluding that it's not some hired help handing out towels in the locker room but either players or coaches.

"I had my wallet stolen at the Australian Open. If they just wanted the money so bad, OK. But they took my credit cards, my driver's license. I had to cancel all those things and it takes time to get everything redone."

Bjorkman had been gone from the Aussie Open locker room no more than five minutes to complete a routine post-match drug test. He left his tennis bag out, which, in retrospect, was a big mistake. "They called me later from Qantas at the airport and told me they'd found the wallet," he said. Everything but his ID had been taken.

Radek Stepanek, the Czech player, reportedly had 5,000 Euros taken from his wallet at the French Open.

Walk into a men's locker room and you'll see players' bags on the floor or the benches. Not everyone takes the precaution of locking everything up, even for a few minutes while taking a shower.

But that is no doubt changing.

There are two obvious remedies. Tournaments are going to have to take locker room security a lot more seriously and players are going to have to smarten up and understand that not everyone in the locker room makes $1 million a year. Or, what is they say? Desperate people do desperate things.



Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Truc
06-27-2007, 11:22 AM
There is an article about it in L'Équipe too. Apart Bjorkman and Stepanek, the article also mentions PHM and Gasquet (wallet in Miami), Allegro (wallet in RG), J. Murray (cell phone and wallet in Queen's), Grosjean (money, Queen's), Butorac (prize money in Surbiton), Mahut (iPod during the Wimbledon qualies), Carlsen (Rolex during the Wimbledon qualies)...

Viken01
06-27-2007, 11:26 AM
There is an article about it in L'Équipe too. Apart Bjorkman and Stepanek, the article also mentions PHM and Gasquet (wallet in Miami), Allegro (wallet in RG), J. Murray (cell phone and wallet in Queen's), Butorac (prize money in Surbiton), Mahut (iPod during the Wimbledon qualies), Carlsen (Rolex during the Wimbledon qualies)...

Do you have the link please ?

Mateya
06-27-2007, 11:30 AM
:mad: I have something for those thiefs :armed:

http://www4.slikomat.com/07/0627/170613ycql.jpg

How can this happen even at events like grand slams and TMS are? :armed:

Truc
06-27-2007, 11:31 AM
Do you have the link please ?I don't think it's available online, but here's the article:
Les vestiaires de l’angoisse
Depuis plus de huit mois, un voleur hante les vestiaires du circuit masculin de tennis. À Wimbledon, la tension monte. LONDRES – de notre envoyé spécial
JONAS BJÖRKMAN, l’un des joueurs vétérans du circuit, est proprement estomaqué : « Ça fait quinze ans que je suis pro et c’est la toute première fois que ça nous arrive. » Ça ? Une incroyable série de vols perpétrés dans les vestiaires du circuit de tennis masculin depuis plus de huit mois. Nous ? Les joueurs de l’ATP, victimes impuissantes d’un Arsène Lupin en survêtement, qui agit en toute impunité quand ils prennent leur douche, courent avaler un sandwich ou se concentrent dans un couloir avant d’être appelés sur le court. Pour le Suédois, tout a commencé en janvier, lors du dernier Open d’Australie. « En fouillant dans mon sac, je n’ai pas retrouvé mon portefeuille, raconte-t-il. Mon premier réflexe a été de me dire que je l’avais perdu. Mais, trois jours plus tard, j’ai reçu un appel de Qantas (la compagnie aérienne australienne) qui me prévenait qu’il avait été retrouvé dans le salon business de l’aéroport international de Melbourne. Manquaient le cash et ma carte de retrait d’espèces. Entre-temps, j’avais évidemment fait opposition, mais j’étais plutôt soulagé de récupérer mes papiers et mon permis de conduire. » Finaud, le Suédois entrevit immédiatement une piste à explorer : si on lui permettait de jeter un oeil sur la liste des voyageurs inscrits en classe business, il y trouverait sans doute des noms connus, les noms de gens qu’il côtoie sur le grand circuit itinérant del’ATP. « Je me disais que je reconnaîtrais peut-être dix ou quinze noms, présume-t-il. Ensuite, en étroite collaboration avec la police, on pouvait peut-être cerner le profil du (ou des) coupable(s). Mais Qantas a tout simplement refusé de nous communiquer cette liste. Selon eux, pour des raisons de sécurité. Je trouve que c’est vraiment dommage et qu’on a raté là une belle occasion. »
Björkman : « En train de devenir un véritable problème »
Les malheurs de Björkman ne se sont pas arrêtés à l’Open d’Australie. Quatre mois plus tard, il « perdait » une nouvelle fois son portefeuille dans les vestiaires de Roland-Garros. Entre-temps, l’épidémie de larcins s’était propagée de tournoi en tournoi, semaine après semaine. Ont été par exemple victimes de ces vols qualifiés : Paul-Henri Mathieu et Richard Gasquet (portefeuilles, à Miami), Radek Stepanek (5 000 euros en cash, destinés à payer son coach, à Monte-Carlo), Yves Allegro (portefeuille, à Roland-Garros), Jamie Murray (téléphone portable et portefeuille, au Queen’s), Sébastien Grosjean (du liquide, au Queen’s), Éric Butorac (250 livres de prize money, gagnées lors d’une exhibition à Surbiton), Nicolas Mahut (iPod, aux qualifs de Wimbledon) et Kenneth Carlsen (une Rolex,même lieu, même heure que Mahut). Même Ross Hutchins, un obscur joueur anglais (841e mondial) eut droit à un traitement de faveur : il y a quelques jours, on lui déroba en effet… quatre tickets pour Wimbledon ! « Ce qui n’était au départ qu’un mauvais coup est en train de devenir un véritable problème, explique Björkman. Parce qu’on a désormais droit à deux ou trois vols par semaine. C’est vraiment grave parce que ça crée une drôle d’ambiance à l’intérieur des vestiaires : à qui faire confiance ? Je trouve que ce type d’agissement témoigne d’un grand manque de respect pour ses collègues de travail. » Le Suédois en est persuadé: le coupable fait nécessairement partie des membres itinérants du circuit. « Il n’existe que quatre catégories de personnes qui ont accès aux vestiaires, rappelle-t-il. Les joueurs, les coaches, les kinés et certaines personnes qui travaillent pour le tournoi. Mais ces gens-là ne voyagent pas de semaine en semaine. J’en déduis donc que le coupable se trouve parmi l’une des trois premières catégories. » Samedi dernier, le conseil des joueurs s’est réuni à Wimbledon pour évoquer (entre autres) ces larcins à répétition. Et trouver surtout un moyen d’y mettre fin. Aucune information n’a filtré sur ce meeting. Björkman préconise, lui, l’installation de caméras de surveillance dans les vestiaires. En attendant, le coupable court toujours.
VINCENT COGNET

luxsword
06-27-2007, 11:38 AM
:tape: "des caméras dans les vestiaires" :aplot: :angel:

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
06-27-2007, 11:54 AM
just check schedule... which player was present... at the Aussie Open, in Miami, in Monte-Carlo, at RG in Paris, at the Queen's in London, in Surbiton, during the Wimby quallies?

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/1709/colombosi2.jpg

well, well...Quallies of Wimbledon, Surbiton is a challenger... it excludes a TOP 100 player, no? maybe a doper to buy his stuff :rolleyes:

silverwhite
06-27-2007, 11:56 AM
Why did Sexy have EU$5000 in his wallet? :help:

Sunset of Age
06-27-2007, 11:58 AM
Wow, that is SICK. What nasty minds can those thieves have - players, a lot of them journeymen working their asses off, and thieves even running off even with the prize money???

:fiery: :armed: :fiery:

elessar
06-27-2007, 12:00 PM
Why did Sexy have EU$5000 in his wallet? :help:

To pay his coach in monte carlo apparently, or for a nose/lips job the journalist wasn't too sure :p

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
06-27-2007, 12:01 PM
Why did Sexy have EU$5000 in his wallet? :help:

...to buy the engagement ring ;)

dijus
06-27-2007, 12:01 PM
just check schedule... which player was present... at the Aussie Open, in Miami, in Monte-Carlo, at RG in Paris, at the Queen's in London, in Surbiton, during the Wimby quallies?

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/1709/colombosi2.jpg

well, well...Quallies of Wimbledon, Surbiton is a challenger... it excludes a TOP 100 player, no? maybe a doper to buy his stuff :rolleyes:

maybe A-Rod :lol:

joking

it's not funny btw :rolleyes:

scarecrows
06-27-2007, 12:02 PM
I hope Xristos is careful on his wallet after a few years

RonE
06-27-2007, 12:06 PM
:mad: I have something for those thiefs :armed:

http://www4.slikomat.com/07/0627/170613ycql.jpg


You know they actually do that to thiefs in Saudi Arabia.

Nathaliia
06-27-2007, 12:12 PM
I saw that Mahut's iPod. Sorry to know it's gone these days.

In Wroclaw they stole the racquet bag and clothes from Juho Paukku (FIN). He left it at the corridor full of other players, also I was there and the hostesses, bunch of linesmen and the supervisor substitute... Andis Juska saw the woman who took it, but thought it was his gf. We had on tapes everybody entering the hall, but now go and search for an unknown woman in the whole country.

Pea
06-27-2007, 12:17 PM
So anyone could just pop in the men's lockeroom. Good to know.

silverwhite
06-27-2007, 12:23 PM
So anyone could just pop in the men's lockeroom. Good to know.

No, only players, coaches, trainers and certain tournament workers. Like Bjorkman said though, it's unlikely to be the tournament workers since the thefts have happened at several different tournaments.

Nathaliia
06-27-2007, 12:24 PM
Maybe somebody is sick, like Winona Ryder, just HAS to steal :scared:

Or Levy
06-27-2007, 12:40 PM
Yikes. Unpleasent. I hope they find the guy and quick, otherwise it could get nasty.

Don't know what security can do about it if it's another player, they don't have cameras IN the locker room, if a player leave his bag unattended, well...

Sunset of Age
06-27-2007, 12:44 PM
Don't know what security can do about it if it's another player, they don't have cameras IN the locker room, if a player leave his bag unattended, well...

If it's indeed another player or coach, that person should be suspended from the tour immediately - and banned for life IMHO.
I guess the players should all keep a better eye on their belongings now. Sad.

Rafa = Fed Killa
06-27-2007, 01:03 PM
You know they actually do that to thiefs in Saudi Arabia.

Good.

The less criminals in the world, the better.

smitty8
06-27-2007, 01:10 PM
When I first started working at my current job, we had someone who was stealing wallets. Security planted a fake wallet with some sort of dye on the money or something like that, it took all of 10 minutes to figure out who did it. They should do something like that, not too hard to do.

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
06-27-2007, 01:29 PM
Good.

The less criminals in the world, the better.

:rolleyes: pfff you are ready to kill somebody cos he has stolen something, only the barbares react that way :sad:

Sofyaxo
06-27-2007, 01:30 PM
So anyone could just pop in the men's lockeroom. Good to know.

No, but it's not hard to get in. A surprising amount of people are going in and out as well.

I've been around when fans have managed to do some sneaky things and get in and steal players stuff, but this sound way to common to be something like that.

:rolleyes: pfff you are ready to kill somebody cos he has stolen something, only the barbares react that way :sad:

That's how it goes in Sparta. Duh.:rolleyes:

Ivo#1Fan
06-27-2007, 01:58 PM
Could it be Spadea :)? Not to suggest that all rappers are gangstas and thieves, but...

El Legenda
06-27-2007, 02:36 PM
Has to be Henman,he hasnt won a lot lately ;)

Saumon
06-27-2007, 02:50 PM
I remember the commentators saying that Bjorkman had been robbed at RG :s
:tape: "des caméras dans les vestiaires" :aplot: :angel:
where do I apply to be the one checking what's going on? :angel:
No, only players, coaches, trainers and certain tournament workers. Like Bjorkman said though, it's unlikely to be the tournament workers since the thefts have happened at several different tournaments.
it must be Roger :shrug: that white purse he brought on court must be to keep the things he steals :awww:
or maybe that bastard who had stolen vinnay's laptop and songs :mad:

Metis
06-27-2007, 02:53 PM
where do I apply to be the one checking what's going on? :angel:


You will remember to make copies of the tapes for us, no? ;)

smitty8
06-27-2007, 03:01 PM
where do I apply to be the one checking what's going on? :angel:


put the good stuff on youtube :devil:

Fumus
06-27-2007, 03:06 PM
Spadea needed the money.

gusman890
06-27-2007, 03:12 PM
wow, its like they are in high school again...

W!MBLEDON
06-27-2007, 03:20 PM
wow, what a sick ****, should be prosecuted severely for that

~EMiLiTA~
06-27-2007, 03:46 PM
Why did Sexy have EU$5000 in his wallet? :help:

lol i was wondering the same thing

FedFan_2007
06-27-2007, 03:48 PM
Roger is stealing everyone's money :D :D :D

He must have lost it a little bit with Rafito winning so much. :D :D

I have seen the Spartan LIGHT. Thanks RFK>>>>

The_Nadal_effect
06-27-2007, 03:57 PM
The chances of the thief being a kleptomaniac should not be ruled out, methinks.

Infact, a Sherlock-style forensic investigation done on all the various locations might lead to a single player/staff who committed the crime.
It might be someone who has easy access to the locker rooms.:scratch:
OR
It could be someone who the players know very well? :aplot:

But knowing the regularity with which these thefts are being comitted, one would have expected the players to keep their valuables inside their locker, no...or are the lockers without lock and key?:confused:

GlennMirnyi
06-27-2007, 04:42 PM
What a joke some tournaments giving out millions can't have a decent security.

R.Federer
06-27-2007, 05:14 PM
Oh, psst.

Borg needed cash, and was selling his trophies to raise some. JUST SAYING.

safin-rules-no.1
06-27-2007, 05:19 PM
I hope Xristos is careful on his wallet after a few years

the moths will fly away before they get stolen

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
06-27-2007, 05:36 PM
But knowing the regularity with which these thefts are being comitted, one would have expected the players to keep their valuables inside their locker, no...or are the lockers without lock and key?:confused:

this is why from now on, i suggest...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v473/pix-perso/hewitt-i.jpg

Rafa = Fed Killa
06-27-2007, 05:43 PM
:rolleyes: pfff you are ready to kill somebody cos he has stolen something, only the barbares react that way :sad:

Justice above all.

The ends justify the means (the end being no crime)

Fear is the only thing these scum criminals understand.

El Legenda
06-27-2007, 05:50 PM
What a joke some tournaments giving out millions can't have a decent security.

security people are human, they steal too.

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
06-27-2007, 06:01 PM
Justice above all.

The ends justify the means (the end being no crime)

Fear is the only thing these scum criminals understand.

okey dokey, considering how hard it is to change yourself, so pls you'll understand what lil chance you have in trying to change my mind on this subject.

Experimentee
06-28-2007, 12:45 PM
They dont kill thieves in Saudi Arabia, they cut their hands off.

RonE
06-28-2007, 01:08 PM
They dont kill thieves in Saudi Arabia, they cut their hands off.

Yes I know that- and that picture of the guilliotine was for an arm or a limb at least not a neck.

ezekiel
06-28-2007, 01:39 PM
It's probably a Robin Hood like character, someone who prides themselves on ripping the rich

The_Nadal_effect
06-28-2007, 04:24 PM
They dont kill thieves in Saudi Arabia, they cut their hands off.

Its a horrible, inhuman thing to do.

Thieves are humans. Rehabilitation is always possible. Rigid laws that were perhaps apt for a certain period must flex with the times. It is after all a minor crime. Not a heinous one.

What is necessary is to catch the theif and put him under rehabilitation. Nurture a new mental theory for him to live by.
What happens there is sad.

Forehander
06-28-2007, 04:43 PM
looks it's obviously one of these three: Federer, Nadal or Djokovic

Wannabeknowitall
06-28-2007, 04:51 PM
I think it's an American player(s).

I think Vince Spadea might be crazy enough to do it.
Also I swear everytime I see the Bryan Brothers on TV, they're talking about not having enough money.

tangerine_dream
06-30-2007, 02:23 AM
I wonder if Roger still steals Wimbledon towels? :angel:

Federer fears Wimbo thief
By DAVE KIDD
June 29, 2007

ROGER FEDERER admits he is scared to leave his valuables in the locker room at Wimbledon for fear of the tennis thief.

But there is no sign that the Swiss big cheese will be robbed of his most valuable possession — the Wimbledon crown.

The world No 1, 25, notched his 50th successive victory on grass as he chases a fifth straight singles title at the All England Club.

SunSport revealed this week that ATP Tour chiefs suspect a player or coach to be guilty of nicking goods after a spate of 20 thefts in recent months.

After Federer despatched Argentine Juan Martin Del Potro, 18, in straight sets yesterday, the richest man in tennis admits he has to be constantly on his guard.

Federer said: “I think it’s silly to steal something out of lockers — but it happens.

“I always make sure I have all my things with me, so it doesn’t happen to me.

“I heard at the French Open some stuff got stolen from the locker room even though we have locks on our lockers there. Here we don’t. I’m down in the locker room where all the seeds are.

“I would be surprised if anybody steals there as you have security guys hanging around.”

Federer set up a third-round meeting with Russia’s Marat Safin today by sealing a 6-2 7-5 6-1 victory over Del Potro. He already led by two sets and a break when the rain came on Wednesday.

And on a day when a local Wimbledon church displayed a poster reading ‘God Made Roger Federer’, the reigning champ admits he is still striving for perfection in his tennis — and his dress sense.

Federer has been marching on to court wearing an immaculate retro blazer and long white trousers this year.

He said: “I don’t know if I have played a perfect match but I’ve had some very, very good ones, especially on big occasions.

“I can recall a Masters final against James Blake and an Australian Open semi against Andy Roddick which were as close as I came.

“And yes I do think it’s important to look good on the court. I think we could have better outfits.

“I came up with the idea of the jacket last year and this year the trousers.”

Perfectionist Federer fears that two-time Grand Slam champ Safin could pull out a ‘crazy’ performance today to upset him.

The Russian came close to beating Federer on grass at the pre-Wimbledon tournament in Halle, Germany, last year.

Federer said: “I expect a tough match. He can upset anybody. I hope he’s not going to have one of those crazy good days against me.”

While the threat of Safin may not make Federer sleep easily, he revealed pal Tiger Woods has been unaffected by sleepless nights despite becoming a dad this month.

Federer said: “He doesn’t sleep much anyway so I don’t think fatherhood is much of a problem for him!”

GlennMirnyi
06-30-2007, 02:40 AM
security people are human, they steal too.

Cameras?

Metis
06-30-2007, 02:59 AM
I wonder if Roger still steals Wimbledon towels? :angel:

Federer fears Wimbo thief
By DAVE KIDD
June 29, 2007




Hopefully someone will steal Roger's handbag :p .

Hugh Jaas
06-30-2007, 04:21 AM
Hopefully someone will steal Roger's handbag :p .

3rd world poverty, illegal was e.t.c and WE are getting into a mass-debate about a 35 year old tennis player who had a few $/£/€ stolen when he was busy p!ssing into a 200ml cup when someone looks at his dong?!!?

Come on guys this Monaco resident(who has saved millions on tax repayments remember...) multi millionaire having his wallet stolen with a few $ in it isn't very important is it? Some perspective here please.

Forehander
06-30-2007, 04:24 AM
what? so Federer came up with that fashion shit himself? Shit!!! So next year he's going to come up with a hat right?

GlennMirnyi
06-30-2007, 04:24 AM
Big deal, stealing is crime.

Rosa Luxembourg
06-30-2007, 04:26 AM
they need to install cameras EVERYWHERE in the locker room for safety...


ps. maybe some tapes will make to the public :p

Lucinda
06-30-2007, 05:12 AM
If it happened at a challenger and someone said it happened twice during qualifying week, I'd assume it's someone rather low on the tennis totem pole - probably stealing after an upsetting defeat to get some sort of revenge on the tennis world which done him wrong...

Oh and I agree that cameras should be installed everywhere, especially in the showers.

kiwi10is
06-30-2007, 07:48 AM
Why did Sexy have EU$5000 in his wallet? :help:

exactly what I thought... I cannot feel sorry for someone who walks around with 5000 Euro in is wallet and leaves it unattanded

silverwhite
06-30-2007, 08:06 AM
exactly what I thought... I cannot feel sorry for someone who walks around with 5000 Euro in is wallet and leaves it unattanded

The L'Equipe article actually explained that he was going to pay his coach. Still, if I were him, I would have handed the money over as soon as I had withdrawn it and not leave my wallet lying around knowing there was 5k in it. :scratch:

Or Levy
06-30-2007, 08:21 AM
Isn't it weird to be paying him in CASH? What ever happened to checks?

Truc
06-30-2007, 08:24 AM
And it's going on according to L'Équipe, Llodra's wallet was stolen 2 days ago (but he just had credit cards and 50 pounds in it) + A. Costa (1700 pounds and 1000 $!)
I'm wondering too why so many coaches are obviously paid in cash??

brujyster
06-30-2007, 09:15 AM
Originally Posted by Experimentee
They dont kill thieves in Saudi Arabia, they cut their hands off.


Assuming Rafa is the thief: at last he would learn the one hand backhand!!!

Sean.J.S.
06-30-2007, 10:00 AM
I bet it was Coria. :lol:

suomi
06-30-2007, 10:22 AM
I bet it was Coria. :lol:

:mad: Coria didn't play any tournaments on the ATP tour for a so long time, so let him alone, stop critizing him!

mallorn
06-30-2007, 10:47 AM
Whodunnit? Sneak thief strikes in the Wimbledon locker room

Last updated at 22:41pm on 29th June 2007

The thief who has plagued the men's tennis tour all year has finally struck in the men's locker room at Wimbledon.

Players and coaches are watching each other with heightened suspicion after two incidents in the last two days, one of them involving the coach of the man who knocked out Tim Henman.

Former French Open champion Albert Costa, who works with Henman's conqueror Feliciano Lopez, had a bag stolen containing 1,700 euros and $1,000 in cash — a total of around £1,650. That followed the disappearance of a wallet belonging to French player Michael Llodra, who was away from his locker for only 30 seconds when the theft took place.

The issue is kicking up a storm in the locker room, especially as the players and coaches feel one of their own must be responsible.

There has been a spate of incidents this year, despite strict checks on admission to locker rooms around the tour.

The players want the All England Club to step up security in time for next year, while a meeting of the Association of Tennis Professionals players' council is likely to be held before the next Grand Slam, the U.S. Open, to discuss the matter.

In the meantime, a Wimbledon spokesman said: "We are aware of the incident and we have told our staff in the locker room to be extra vigilant, but it is difficult with so many people in the area. It is up to the player concerned to inform the police."

By some estimates the number of thefts in the men's locker room this year is around 20. The incidents go as far back as January at the Australian Open but these are the first at Wimbledon.

Jamie Murray has been among the victims, having had his wallet and mobile phone stolen during the recent Artois Championships at Queen's Club, where his doubles partner Eric Butorac and French star Sebastien Grosjean were also robbed. Sweden's Jonas Bjorkman reported personal effects stolen at both the Australian and French Opens.

At last week's Wimbledon qualifying event at Roehampton, Dane Kenneth Carlsen had his Rolex stolen and Frenchman Nicolas Mahut his iPod.

The biggest single theft is believed to be the loss of 5,000 euros (£3,400) suffered by Czech player Radek Stepanek, the fiance of Martina Hingis, at the Monte Carlo Open in April.

Police have reviewed security arrangements at Wimbledon after the car bomb incident outside a nightclub in London's West End.

Superintendent Peter Dobson said: "While I have made some adjustments, the security plan remains commensurate to the threat.

"I would like to take this opportunity to state that there is no intelligence that increases the threat to the Championships."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/wimbledon.html?in_article_id=465250&in_page_id=1816&ct=5
They've known about this problem for months and they still carry so much cash on them? :scratch:

Action Jackson
06-30-2007, 01:09 PM
Time to set up a sting operation, keep the real wallets on them at all times and have a fake one loaded up and see who takes the bait.

sigmagirl91
06-30-2007, 01:30 PM
Time to set up a sting operation, keep the real wallets on them at all times and have a fake one loaded up and see who takes the bait.

Loading the fake one with a dye pack will expose the culprit for sure.

User ID 29337
06-30-2007, 01:36 PM
I can't believe they haven't gone to extreme measures to catch the thief already.

Byrd
06-30-2007, 01:45 PM
For some reason, Thief & Murray are going hand in hand when I'm thinking of this.

Action Jackson
06-30-2007, 01:49 PM
Loading the fake one with a dye pack will expose the culprit for sure.

Hahaha.

sigmagirl91
06-30-2007, 03:08 PM
I guess it's been mentioned/speculated upon before, but I'll throw in my two cents anyway.

In my opinion, this is an inside job. Who would know the locker room and its players' habits well enough? Someone on the inside. It could be a player, a coach, tournament personnel...the possibilities are endless.

sigmagirl91
06-30-2007, 03:10 PM
When I first started working at my current job, we had someone who was stealing wallets. Security planted a fake wallet with some sort of dye on the money or something like that, it took all of 10 minutes to figure out who did it. They should do something like that, not too hard to do.

Exactly.

Tommy_Vercetti
06-30-2007, 03:36 PM
That's if this was all done by the same person. Which I find hard to believe. All of the incidents do not have to be related. This has certainly happened before. Could be people who heard about the original thief and decide it's not a bad idea. Or just workers at each place.

You leave a wallet out to be stolen on purpose and I bet that it's some random person that takes it and not a habitual thief.

I'd hate to be the player or coach caught though, you'd be finished.

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
06-30-2007, 03:36 PM
too bad, maybe Jonas Bjorkman was right but now it's too late :o


(sic) Bjorkman had been gone from the Aussie Open locker room no more than five minutes to complete a routine post-match drug test. He left his tennis bag out, which, in retrospect, was a big mistake. "They called me later from Qantas at the airport and told me they'd found the wallet," he said.

L'Equipe: Finaud, le Suédois entrevit immédiatement une piste à explorer : si on lui permettait de jeter un oeil sur la liste des voyageurs inscrits en classe business, il y trouverait sans doute des noms connus, les noms de gens qu’il côtoie sur le grand circuit itinérant del’ATP. « Je me disais que je reconnaîtrais peut-être dix ou quinze noms, présume-t-il. Ensuite, en étroite collaboration avec la police, on pouvait peut-être cerner le profil du (ou des) coupable(s). Mais Qantas a tout simplement refusé de nous communiquer cette liste. Selon eux, pour des raisons de sécurité. "Je trouve que c’est vraiment dommage et qu’on a raté là une belle occasion"

(ok i try to translate) wily, the Swede immediately thought he was on the right track: if he was allowed to have a look at the passenger list of the business class, he was pretty sure to find some famous names on it, the names of people he regularly meets on the ATP Grand Tour. "I told to myself that I could recognize maybe 10 or 15 names. Then, in collaboration with the police, it could be easy to portray the guilty(s). Alas Qantas simply refused to provide the list. According to them, for security reasons. "I think it's really a pity and that we have missed a good opportunity."

kiwi10is
06-30-2007, 04:18 PM
why does a player pay his coach in cash??? I am sure this is very interesting for some tax departments

BlakeorHenman
06-30-2007, 04:27 PM
what? so Federer came up with that fashion shit himself? Shit!!! So next year he's going to come up with a hat right?

And a gold, diamond-studded walking staff.

sigmagirl91
07-01-2007, 01:20 AM
too bad, maybe Jonas Bjorkman was right but now it's too late :o


(sic) Bjorkman had been gone from the Aussie Open locker room no more than five minutes to complete a routine post-match drug test. He left his tennis bag out, which, in retrospect, was a big mistake. "They called me later from Qantas at the airport and told me they'd found the wallet," he said.

L'Equipe: Finaud, le Suédois entrevit immédiatement une piste à explorer : si on lui permettait de jeter un oeil sur la liste des voyageurs inscrits en classe business, il y trouverait sans doute des noms connus, les noms de gens qu’il côtoie sur le grand circuit itinérant del’ATP. « Je me disais que je reconnaîtrais peut-être dix ou quinze noms, présume-t-il. Ensuite, en étroite collaboration avec la police, on pouvait peut-être cerner le profil du (ou des) coupable(s). Mais Qantas a tout simplement refusé de nous communiquer cette liste. Selon eux, pour des raisons de sécurité. "Je trouve que c’est vraiment dommage et qu’on a raté là une belle occasion"

(ok i try to translate) wily, the Swede immediately thought he was on the right track: if he was allowed to have a look at the passenger list of the business class, he was pretty sure to find some famous names on it, the names of people he regularly meets on the ATP Grand Tour. "I told to myself that I could recognize maybe 10 or 15 names. Then, in collaboration with the police, it could be easy to portray the guilty(s). Alas Qantas simply refused to provide the list. According to them, for security reasons. "I think it's really a pity and that we have missed a good opportunity."

If the ATP lawyers decide to do a formal investigation, they will be sure to secure the list from Qantas for evidence.

smitty8
07-01-2007, 01:24 AM
And a gold, diamond-studded walking staff.

That would be sweet. Then he could do a nice little dance number during the rain delays. :hatoff: :dance:

StevoTG
07-01-2007, 02:41 AM
That would be sweet. Then he could do a nice little dance number during the rain delays. :hatoff: :dance:

I'd love to see that :lol: :rolls:

Louche
07-01-2007, 03:10 AM
Why leave Mirka out of the act?

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/3193/danseum2.gif

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
07-01-2007, 08:25 AM
latest update Saturday, Jun 30, 2007...


Locker room thieves target tennis players

By Paul Majendie

LONDON, June 30 (Reuters) - Locker rooms thieves are targeting the world's top tennis players and Wimbledon is the latest victim.

Players and coaches on the international circuit have suffered at least 15 thefts this year from Melbourne to Paris, sparking fears that an insider could be responsible.

The first to be hit at Wimbledon this week were former French Open champion Albert Costa who had a bag of euros and dollars stolen and French player Michael Llodra, who had his wallet taken.

"We will try to do everything we can to ensure this doesn't happen again on our premises," a Wimbledon spokesman said after the robberies were reported.

Despite strict checks on who comes into the locker room on the tour, these are just the latest in a rash of incidents that have alarmed the governing body of men's tennis.

Asked if insiders might be to blame, ATP (Association of Tennis Professionals) spokesman Andre Silva said: "We obviously don't know who is doing it and I don't want to speculate."

He estimated that there had been about 15 thefts already this year.

Czech player Radek Stepanek, the fiance of Switzerland's former world number one Martina Hingis, had 5,000 euros ($6,723) taken in Monte Carlo.

Sweden's Jonas Bjorkman, reported the loss of personal effects at both the Australian and French Open tournaments.

Frenchman Sebastian Grosjean was one of three players robbed at the Queen's grasscourt tournament in London earlier this month.

ATP spokesman Silva said: "We do take it seriously. Last year we passed a rule tightening up credentials in the locker room. Players have to tell us who their coaches are.

"We want this to be resolved but we need the players to work with us in a combined effort. The players' council will be involved in any new decision as this involves what we feel is a very private area for them."

soraya
07-01-2007, 08:56 AM
Spadea needed the money.

and next he will come up with a new book..."How to steal from the ATP locker room in 30 seconds around the world." :tape:

aislingmcfly
07-01-2007, 09:31 AM
I remember Gasquet saying in an a post-match interview that he got his wallet stolen. I think it was Indian Wells or Miami this year

valexie03
07-01-2007, 01:44 PM
:tape: "des caméras dans les vestiaires" :aplot: :angel:

I agree! :angel: And post the tapes on YouTube:devil: :devil:

Stensland
08-28-2007, 07:48 PM
the thieves are back...

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/deportes/Saquean/vestuario/Ramirez/mientras/enfrentaba/Canas/elpepudep/20070828elpepudep_5/Tes

i get what it's about (hidalgo's stuff was stolen while he was playing canas), but maybe some native speakers could give me (us) some details about the whole thing.

thanks!

Ma. Estefania
08-28-2007, 10:54 PM
Here it's translated:

The Spanish tennis player Rubén Ramírez Hidalgo was another robbery's victim in the wardrobes of the court Arthur Ashe at the National Center of Tennis Billie Jean King, while he played his 1st round match at US Open against the Argentinean Guillermo Cañas.

To the Spanish player that lost in four sets (6-3, 4-6, 7-5 and 6-3) and was eliminated, what got disappeared was a bag with personal objects and money. Ramírez regretted that they "steal in all the tournaments. It is a shame. They steal every week", the Spanish tennis player indicated.

"You cannot take yourself all your stuff to the court. I am not to the only one that you/they have disappeared him things. Money, clocks, music players are taken. People constantly get in. Nowadays, only players and trainers are allowed to get in, then somebody of these has to be", it denounced.

Ramírez Hidalgo pointed out that "because of playing the last match of the day somebody has taken advantage to get in. There is no control. The volunteers only have two keys that open all the box offices. And anyone can request to open the one that is not theirs", the Spanish tennis player it pointed.

Sorry for any mistake, I used a translator....I was too lazy to translate it in my own words. :p

l_mac
08-28-2007, 11:39 PM
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o145/jonnywrestling/Federer07USOpenBag2.jpg

MusicMyst
08-28-2007, 11:50 PM
Why can't they take all their gear on court? You could fit a small adult in those equipment bags, much less an iPod, a cell phone, and your wallet.

Viken01
08-29-2007, 12:36 AM
Why can't they take all their gear on court? You could fit a small adult in those equipment bags, much less an iPod, a cell phone, and your wallet.

:lol: Yeah you are right I think it could be a solution.

BlakeorHenman
08-29-2007, 01:04 AM
This mystery is better than an episode of LOST.

Billabong
08-29-2007, 01:14 AM
OMG I can't wait to know who's the thief, this is quite intriguing:eek:

Forehander
08-29-2007, 02:51 AM
I think it's about time for them to use Surveillance cameras right??! Even Sebastien Grosjean my favourite player got robbed :( O_O

idolwatcher1
08-29-2007, 03:13 AM
To my knowledge, Alejandro Falla of Columbia has been to all of the tournaments reported here (in this thread) where things were stolen :unsure: ... It could be just a coincidence. I know he has lost in the qualifying rounds at some of the events, so who knows if he has anything to do with any of it... :shrug:

gjalex
08-29-2007, 09:58 AM
Bjorkman probably pretended his wallet was stolen so it would look like he was innocent, that crazy old man :)

*snowflake*
08-29-2007, 10:34 AM
they need to install cameras EVERYWHERE in the locker room for safety...


ps. maybe some tapes will make to the public :p

No, let's have a live feed just in case :dance:



But this is seriously getting ridiculous. Firstly, the fact that the officials can't put a stop to this. Secondly, the fact that the players keep bringing all of their stuff to the locker room! Give that wallet and iPod to your coach dammit.

GermanBoy
08-29-2007, 11:26 AM
If it were the sweaty shirts of the players - at least the good looking ones - I might have owned up by now but money.... How cheap do you think I am... :p

ae wowww
08-29-2007, 05:32 PM
No, let's have a live feed just in case :dance:



But this is seriously getting ridiculous. Firstly, the fact that the officials can't put a stop to this. Secondly, the fact that the players keep bringing all of their stuff to the locker room! Give that wallet and iPod to your coach dammit.

:lol: There's a good chance it is a coach, so wouldn't suggest that!!

Hope they catch them soon, and players get to serve at them like an ancient stoning!

I think Jim literally takes everything on court, which is probably wisest - particularly in this situation..

Playing at an ITF the last 3 weeks, I have had some money, and a shirt stolen - I think it is inevitable that wherever you are around the world, there will always be someone who is greedy and willing to steal. It's a shame, but I think the truth.

Mount Goddess
08-29-2007, 07:15 PM
No, let's have a live feed just in case :dance:
But this is seriously getting ridiculous. Firstly, the fact that the officials can't put a stop to this. Secondly, the fact that the players keep bringing all of their stuff to the locker room! Give that wallet and iPod to your coach dammit.

Love the idea of the live feed! I hold my hand up and volunteer to watch it all the time!!!!

And it should be like school and work where you don't take you valuables along with you. We actually had some money go missing at work the other week, :scratch: wonder if the ATP thief is also targetting the West Suffolk Hospital!

They could make a film out of it when it's all over, it's quiet exciting waiting for the next happening!

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
03-22-2008, 10:55 AM
bump


any news? do they catch the thief?

El Magnifico
03-22-2008, 11:13 AM
Djokovic, he is the kind of prick who would borrow something from a player without asking or letting the player know. Sly player on court and I bet he is like it in the locker room.

finishingmove
03-22-2008, 11:16 AM
Djokovic, he is the kind of prick who would borrow something from a player without asking or letting the player know. Sly player on court and I bet he is like it in the locker room.

djokovic once killed a man.

or child.

kiwi10is
03-22-2008, 11:30 AM
maybe the one who is selling this on ebay??? http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160221320537&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=006

Dougie
03-22-2008, 12:00 PM
As long as there have been locker rooms, there have been thieves in locker rooms as well. If you leave your wallet and cell phone unattended while taking a shower don´t be surprised if they´re gone when you come back. Of course it´s not right but come on, grown men should know better...

Bobby
03-22-2008, 12:18 PM
As long as there have been locker rooms, there have been thieves in locker rooms as well. If you leave your wallet and cell phone unattended while taking a shower don´t be surprised if they´re gone when you come back. Of course it´s not right but come on, grown men should know better...

Dougie, Dougie...Shouldn't you be doing something productive today and not just go through the threads at the MENS TENNIS FORUMS!?

Dougie
03-22-2008, 12:46 PM
Dougie, Dougie...Shouldn't you be doing something productive today and not just go through the threads at the MENS TENNIS FORUMS!?

I´m only taking small breaks from writing my final work. Correct me if I´m wrong, but aren´t you supposed to be doing the same thing..?

Fee
03-22-2008, 05:25 PM
Back to the subject at hand...

I know a player who had his wallet stolen out of his bag in the player's lounge during the LA tournament last summer. He took out what he needed, put the wallet deep into a particular pocket of his racquet bag and walked away to the other side of the player's lounge to get some food for less than ten minutes. It was the only time that entire day his bag was unattended. Lovely isn't it?

The Freak
03-22-2008, 05:36 PM
http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_tennisblog/2007/06/major_major_pro.html

Jonas Bjorkman, who usually doesn't get steamed about anything except cold Swedish meatballs, is furious about an increasing amount of wallet theft in ATP locker rooms, including a handful of incidents at the Sony Ericsson Open on Key Biscayne earlier this year.

"It's happened at Indian Wells, Key Biscayne, the Australian Open, the French Open, Queens. It's become a very serious problem and we're going to be bringing it up at the players meeting at Wimbledon," said Bjorkman.

It's happened so often that Bjorkman is concluding that it's not some hired help handing out towels in the locker room but either players or coaches.

"I had my wallet stolen at the Australian Open. If they just wanted the money so bad, OK. But they took my credit cards, my driver's license. I had to cancel all those things and it takes time to get everything redone."

Bjorkman had been gone from the Aussie Open locker room no more than five minutes to complete a routine post-match drug test. He left his tennis bag out, which, in retrospect, was a big mistake. "They called me later from Qantas at the airport and told me they'd found the wallet," he said. Everything but his ID had been taken.

Radek Stepanek, the Czech player, reportedly had 5,000 Euros taken from his wallet at the French Open.

Walk into a men's locker room and you'll see players' bags on the floor or the benches. Not everyone takes the precaution of locking everything up, even for a few minutes while taking a shower.

But that is no doubt changing.

There are two obvious remedies. Tournaments are going to have to take locker room security a lot more seriously and players are going to have to smarten up and understand that not everyone in the locker room makes $1 million a year. Or, what is they say? Desperate people do desperate things.



Hmmmmmmmmmmm


:haha:

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
03-22-2008, 06:01 PM
Dressed in black from head to toe, like a thief in the night: The Race, AS of Saturday, March 22, 2008

# 1 Radek Stepanek had 5000 Euros stolen during the Monte Carlo Masters
# 2 Jonas Bjorkman has been a victim twice - a wallet stolen at both the French and Australian Opens
# 3 Kenneth Carlsen, his Rolex during the Wimbledon qualies
# 4 Jamie Murray, his phone and wallet swiped during the Artois Championships
# 5 Eric Butorac had £250 in cash taken
# 6 Sébastien Grosjean, money at Queen's
# 7 Nicolas Mahut had an ipod pinched from his bag as he popped out for a sandwich during Wimbledon qualies
# 8 Paul-Henri Mathieu, wallet in Miami
# 9 Richard Gasquet, wallet in Miami
# 10 Yves Allegro, wallet in RG

beware next week... Miami :cool:

Richard_from_Cal
03-22-2008, 06:12 PM
Not a new, problem, is it? I mean, I remember posting this on another board, last year.

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
03-22-2008, 06:39 PM
no, nothing new but questions WHO is the thief? and did they arrest him?

DhammaTiger
03-22-2008, 08:09 PM
Maybe there isn't one thief, maybe there are several. Why don't they put surveilance cameras in the locker rooms. Those cams are everywhere else, or have a locker room attendant. in most gyms there are attendants assisting users. You can't be too careful, I would always lock my valuables up. They could also have a voucher systems or accounts, like in some clubs where you don't pay cash for anything. So, in end of tournament or at end of each round they can deduct from the players. That's the best way to stop the thefts, as for watches etc the players should leave it in a safe place, like inside the locker. I am sure the players don't want surveilance cameras so they have to devise a system where valuables are stored and elliminate the need for cash.

Richard_from_Cal
03-22-2008, 08:18 PM
No. No cameras. Looong past 1984, don't wanna give up any more privacy than necessary.

Beat the Fork out of him, if your "brothers" catch him. You're a union {ahem} association, aren't you??

star
03-22-2008, 10:38 PM
I'm thinking the players might want to shell out money for a combination locks and always lock up their possessions. It's too bad because evidently until recently, the players have felt comfortable leaving their bags unattended.

Richard_from_Cal
03-22-2008, 10:41 PM
Beat the Fork out of him, if your "brothers" catch him. You're a union {ahem} association, aren't you??
Okay, that was wrong. So is stealing. Pret sure it's agin one o them ten suggestions...:angel: