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invu2day
06-21-2007, 07:22 PM
Notice to all Managers:

Following players are currently serving a ban or permanent Ban. Hence they are not allowed to play TENNIS TIPPING:

Locoxcanas banned from TT until end of 2008 season
Diego36arg banned from TT until end of 2008 season
JESY1983 permanent ban from TT
JULYTOTAL permanent ban from TT
Natytaty83 permanent ban from TT
Loren2007 permanent ban from TT
Playagirl permanent ban from TT
Ellery permanent ban from TT
*~~*Pia*~~* permanent ban from TT

Details of ban in post 3

invu2day
06-21-2007, 07:23 PM
If you suspect any person of playing Tennis Tipping with multiple accounts please contact any member of the board via pm only, please don't state it here. If your suspicions are valid they will be written here by a member of the board.

Thank you and play fair ;)

Board :

Adee-Gee
Labamba
Keqtqiadv
Gavnich77
Invu2day

invu2day
06-21-2007, 08:56 PM
Locoxcanas banned for controlling Natytaty83 account. Natytaty83 however is a real person but Locoxcanas plays TT using this account. Based on

1. These players have played the same ATP main tournament on 2 occasions. On each occasion pm’s were sent to managers minutes apart on every playing day. This is 5 times out of five. This is not coincidence.
2. The pm’s even had the same grammer errors in ATP player names when the same picks were chosen. On the first day of Wimbledon qualifiers Invu2day received pm’s from 42 TT players in the qualifiers. Only 2 TT players made the exact same spelling error in an ATP player’s name. These TT players were Locoxcanas and Natytaty83. Solid proof of just one poster for both accounts.

Diego36arg banned for controlling JESY1983, JULYTOTAL & Loren2007. JESY1983 and Loren2007 are real people but accounts controlled by Diego1986. Diego36arg plays TT using these accounts. Based on

1. Diego36arg sending 99 consecutive identical picks to JESY1983. Diego36arg claims he sent JESY1983 his picks to help her play TT. BUT JESY1983 made the FRENCH OPEN doubles last 16 so what help could she want from Diego36arg who lost in the first round himself. LIE
2. Diego36arg claimed to have no connections with JESY1983 but later admits to be in communication via MSN with her. Lied first time around.
3. All Diego36arg and JESY1983 pm’s sent within minutes of each other to respective Wimbledon Managers. Not coincidence.
4. JESY1983 admits to owning the JULYTOTAL account.
5. JULYTOTAL & Loren2007 have each roughly 30 posts at time of Investigation. Everyone one of Loren2007’s posts in on the exact day of JULYTOTAL’s posts. All posts made within the same hour on each account on same days. This gives the assumption of just a single user.
6. Diego36arg claims not to know of Loren2007. LIE
7. Loren2007 claims Diego36arg as a work colleague. TRUE
8. Loren2007 refers to Locoxcanas as his brother in a pm to GustavoM_Fan. Slip of the tongue states cheating. (PM verified).
9. All evidence points to Diego36arg to be an outright liar. He is definetly JESY1983 who in turn admits to controlling JULYTOTAL who inturn posts in parallel with Loren2007. Therefore Diego36arg is controlling 4 accounts.

JESY1983 permanent ban from TT. Based on

1. Account controlled by other member for playing TT.

JULYTOTAL permanent ban from TT. Based on

1. Account controlled by other member for playing TT.

LOREN2007 permanent ban from TT. Based on

1. Account controlled by other member for playing TT.

Playagirl lifetime ban from playing TT. Based on

1. Same IP Address as Karim Vlasic/Germanstar. Confirmed by mods.

Ellery lifetime ban from playing TT. Based on

1 Same IP Address as Ganystar aka Karim Vlasic/Germanstar. Confirmed by mods.

*~~*Pia*~~* lifetime ban from playing TT. Based on

1. Same IP Address as Karim Vlasic/Germanstar. Confirmed by mods.

We the board are sure these players will activate new accounts and play TT again. However they will be found out and served with longer bans. Each time they start again, they start with 0 rank points and will continue to do so. Therefore they will never get anywhere in TT.

scarecrows
06-21-2007, 09:47 PM
very bad guy(s)

Karim Vlasic part 2 only that this time they (or him) didnt manage to manage tournaments but I think they (or he) requested to do so

I can also add my 2 cents on this matter. being an iSpy addict (shame on me) I've noticed the commitment and withdrawal of those 2 bros being always few minutes apart. maybe it does mean nothing but maybe it does

ExcaliburII
06-21-2007, 10:17 PM
The Chs I managed and the tournaments of TT DDL I managed, diego36arg, and locoxcañas always have different picks. I am almost sure they are brothers, or at least not the same user.

natytaty is a very strange user, Ive talked with her a day before we played each other in Qualies of Queens, and she didnt even knew about she was playing qualies in TT, and seems to have no knwledge at all of Tennis. How can she tip matches so accurately?


When Loren2007 commited for first time to TTDDL, we didnt let him in. I talked with diego36arg, and he said Loren was a working partner of him (not locoxcañas`s, as stated above).


JulyTotal, and Jessy, are very suspicious they only make posts as: In, What do I need and good luck.



I would only suspend Julytotal, Jessy and Loren2007 for now, and analyze the other cases better. locoxcañas, diego36arg and natytaty83 at least have an own personality, and post now and again.

I would let there cases under analisis but still playing.

Just my two cents :wavey:

Sorry for the horrible mistakes :tape:

invu2day
06-21-2007, 10:23 PM
If it was 99 consecutive picks for 2 brothers is legitimate as that is how they may want to play. But 99 consecutive picks for 2 players who do not know each other! What does that say to you? Smacks of multiple accounts :eek:

ExcaliburII
06-21-2007, 10:25 PM
Ill check picks for previous tournaments in TT DDL, and in oficial TT to see if their picks were the same.


Anyway, I heard that if you have 2 accs, one of them is suspended for the first time.

locoxcañas and natytaty shouldnt be banned there is no reason for it.

invu2day
06-21-2007, 10:31 PM
If they can all provide ID then nothing to worry about. Locos the brother of Diego must know what he is upto. You are better off talking to Gustavo as he has more insight than me here.

yemok
06-21-2007, 10:32 PM
Ill check picks for previous tournaments in TT DDL, and in oficial TT to see if their picks were the same.


Anyway, I heard that if you have 2 accs, one of them is suspended for the first time.

locoxcañas and natytaty shouldnt be banned there is no reason for it.

No reason? Read one more time what's written in post#3... :)

ExcaliburII
06-21-2007, 10:36 PM
natytaaty and Loren 2007 are not the same person for sure.
They send picks at different times, different style of picks sending, and different picks.


locoxcañas and diego36arg seem not to be the same user, for the same reasons.


Ive never received picks from Julytotal niether Jessy1983

FiBeR
06-21-2007, 10:39 PM
:tape: Well... Ive heard about those accusations long before.. we ve been having this discussions at TT Dulce de Leche for over a month or more..

Regarding scarecrows statement:

im the manager of TT Dulce de leche and I really do think neither of them wanted to do what Karim Vlasic did..I let them manage a couple of tournaments (even though they are like exhibition tourneys) and they proved to be honest about it.. about managing them (and they kinda got their "success" in TT DDL in their signature so they do really care about winning or losing there).. I think it is not a managing thing what they were trying to get advantage of, (if proven guilty)

What I do think, they may have wanted to play in more than one account, just to play more, and have a better chance..but that may be it.. I dont think managing and changing picks to cheat and win is what they would have done

Ive lost in Roland Garros doubles to Natytaty83.. in 2nd Round... ive lost at a major against one of the accused players.. I mean, I m not on anybody's side, as I , myself, got on their way and lost on a quite official and important tourney.. and missed a big chance (anyway we got the worse score of the round :lol: so its ok)

What im saying is.. i think it was more like..play multiple accounts rather than manage and manipulate picks , if guilty..



Regarding accusations: About the city ID thing.. I dont think we have that in Argentina :tape: ... I mean..


"It is stated by GustavoM_Fan in Argentina each citizen has an I.D. Card"

it has nothing to do with that.. we dont have citizen's id.. we ve got like passports..( i do believe in every part of the world every person is entitled to have an ID Card..


Anyway..what about tomorrow's sf match in braunsch...ermm..nikigreat's challenger? i may be playing locoxcañas there in SF tomorrow :tape:

ExcaliburII
06-21-2007, 10:39 PM
If they can all provide ID then nothing to worry about. Locos the brother of Diego must know what he is upto. You are better off talking to Gustavo as he has more insight than me here.

He is Felipe, not Gustavo :p:)


I ve been talking this from long time ago with him, but he is suspecting of all of them with not to much argument. I also suspect of them, but I cant see why we should suspend locoxcañas and natytaty there are no thing we can do until we dont have a solid argument and reasons.

ExcaliburII
06-21-2007, 10:41 PM
Id=DNI Ray :haha:

FiBeR
06-21-2007, 10:44 PM
I know.. Pablito :p but its not like a special thing..as i said..in any part of the world you get those kind of ids..and it could be fakeable pablito :p

I mean..i could go right now accross my room and ask one of my sister's friend to lend me one and take a picture and give it back (they re studying on the other room)

:tape: that is not like.. the best evidence in the world :tape:

invu2day
06-21-2007, 10:45 PM
I seem to be repeating myself. Any recognised form of ID for the 6 accounts will clear all. It's not a witch hunt. There is definetly something going on here with these accounts. It's upto them to identify themselves. If they don't then it's obvious what is happening.

ExcaliburII
06-21-2007, 10:46 PM
I know, but at least it should have the name of each of them, and I know the "age" of natytaty, diego and ariel, so I can calculate if the number is correct with the ages.

:yeah:

invu2day
06-21-2007, 10:48 PM
I know.. Pablito :p but its not like a special thing..as i said..in any part of the world you get those kind of ids..and it could be fakeable pablito :p

I mean..i could go right now accross my room and ask one of my sister's friend to lend me one and take a picture and give it back (they re studying on the other room)

:tape: that is not like.. the best evidence in the world :tape:

Nationally recognised ID such as passport, driving license, etc. They can blank out personal info which is not required.

ExcaliburII
06-21-2007, 10:49 PM
I seem to be repeating myself. Any recognised form of ID for the 6 accounts will clear all. It's not a witch hunt. There is definetly something going on here with these accounts. It's upto them to identify themselves. If they don't then it's obvious what is happening.

but I cant see how natytaty is relationed with all the others.

And diego36arg is said to be the one with more than one ACC. locoxcañas is only his brother.

SO lets say if your brother commits a crime, should you go to prison also?

FiBeR
06-21-2007, 10:50 PM
is SUSPENSION valid from today onwards? i mean.. one of the suspended players is playing QF and only 1 match is to be determined to know the winner..

(on a challenger)

will he be suspended from this QF match? (suppossed to be finished by today but rain delayed the final match at 4-4 Marach - Koubek) or in case he wins (locoxcañas) will he be let to play SF or be suspended there? :tape:

or will he be allowed to finish his participation in the whole tournament normally and banning will start from next week onwards? :)

EDIT: i wrote suspision instead of suspension

Forever-Delayed
06-21-2007, 10:54 PM
I suppose if they were all the same person, then they could never all be online at the same time, unless they were logged in on different computers

I guess if anyone spots that 2 or more of these usernames are online at the same time, then it would be likely that those usernames are actually different people (of course, it wouldn't actually prove whether they are all controlled by the same person or not)

I don't know whether it is possible or not to find out, but if there is some kind of record of activity on the forum, then if 2 'people' had never been online at the same time as each other, then that may be an indicator that they are controlled by the same person

Tytta!.
06-21-2007, 10:56 PM
I suppose if they were all the same person, then they could never all be online at the same time, unless they were logged in on different computers

I guess if anyone spots that 2 or more of these usernames are online at the same time, then it would be likely that those usernames are actually different people (of course, it wouldn't actually prove whether they are all controlled by the same person or not)

I don't know whether it is possible or not to find out, but if there is some kind of record of activity on the forum, then if 2 'people' had never been online at the same time as each other, then that may be an indicator that they are controlled by the same person


You can log on Firefox (for example) with an account and in IE with another at the right same time...

Forever-Delayed
06-21-2007, 10:57 PM
is SUSPENSION valid from today onwards? i mean.. one of the suspended players is playing QF and only 1 match is to be determined to know the winner..

(on a challenger)

will he be suspended from this QF match? (suppossed to be finished by today but rain delayed the final match at 4-4 Marach - Koubek) or in case he wins (locoxcañas) will he be let to play SF or be suspended there? :tape:

or will he be allowed to finish his participation in the whole tournament normally and banning will start from next week onwards? :)

EDIT: i wrote suspision instead of suspension

In previous instances suspensions were imposed at the exact moment that the banning was done, as I think in Newport last year someone was banned temporarily from MTF midway through a tournament, and were taken out of the tournament as soon as word that they were banned got to the management team.

If the same thing is applied here, then they would have to forfeit any match that was still be played when the suspension was imposed

Forever-Delayed
06-21-2007, 10:59 PM
You can log on Firefox (for example) with an account and in IE with another at the right same time...

It was just an idea that I had to try and prove this one way or the other... if that is the case then obviously they can be controlled by 2 people at once (I suppose my point about the possibilty they have never both been online at the same time could still be valid though)

Tytta!.
06-21-2007, 11:00 PM
It was just an idea that I had to try and prove this one way or the other... if that is the case then obviously they can be controlled by 2 people at once (I suppose my point about the possibilty they have never both been online at the same time could still be valid though)

I know, I agree with you, just thought about the possibility. :lol:

FiBeR
06-21-2007, 11:01 PM
i think in ATP they are allowed to finish the tourney .. i think it should be left to play until losing.. but.. well.. thats what i think

i think when cañas was suspended..at wimbledon..in 2005..he kinda retired .. but wasnt forced to withdraw from the tourney because of doping accusations.. he retired himself.. thats what i know about :tape:

ExcaliburII
06-21-2007, 11:07 PM
i think in ATP they are allowed to finish the tourney .. i think it should be left to play until losing.. but.. well.. thats what i think

i think when cañas was suspended..at wimbledon..in 2005..he kinda retired .. but wasnt forced to withdraw from the tourney because of doping accusations.. he retired himself.. thats what i know about :tape:

It was at Roland Garros, and he finished playing, but the situation was different.

Snowwy
06-21-2007, 11:09 PM
If he is a cheater I think he should be gone immediately. That said, it sounds like he is but is he really?

FiBeR
06-21-2007, 11:14 PM
its hard to prove.. just like doping..you need a couple of tests.. and that takes time.. here as well..


to be honest, i do think natytaty, jessy and all but locoxcañas and diego36arg are fake

those 2 are different ( edit: talking about loco and diego), they re regular posters at my thread (TT DDL) but nothing about the others..

the ones i think are fake kinda knew where to sign up as soon as they got their accounts (jessy.. n co) where to post.. etc.. just like out of the blue.. :p but..well.. :shrug:

invu2day
06-21-2007, 11:14 PM
Locoxcanas joins 10 April 2007
Diego36 arg joins 20 April 2007
Natytay83 joins 10 May 2007
JESY1983 joins 10 May 2007
JULYTOTAL joins 12 May 2007
Loren2007 joins 18 May 2007

All these members joining MTF from Argentina.
All these members instantly signing up for TT tournaments

At this rate by the end of the year 95% of MTF members will be from Argentina :haha:

You can run this by the MTF gurus who can say whether there has ever been a surge of new members from any one region in any such period.

Everything about these accounts appears suspicious. They have all been given a chance to identify themselves if they are real people.

ArielCH.
06-21-2007, 11:15 PM
Documento Nacional de Identidad (I.D)

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9846/imagen002fq6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

ExcaliburII
06-21-2007, 11:19 PM
:yeah:

This is real.

ArielCH.
06-21-2007, 11:20 PM
sorry, this is the id, the other pic is the driver id


http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3682/imagen001dj1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

ArielCH.
06-21-2007, 11:20 PM
and this is the police id


http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5053/imagen003xs4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

ArielCH.
06-21-2007, 11:22 PM
My brother is scanning his identifications

ExcaliburII
06-21-2007, 11:26 PM
so if the two brothers post their Ids they will be able to play? Only the players who dont post their IDs should be suspended.

scarecrows
06-21-2007, 11:27 PM
we need to create a database with all ID cards of all players :bounce:

FiBeR
06-21-2007, 11:30 PM
:eek: that sounds a bit...sick, genci :eek:

in the WTA forum (which ive never got in.. but ive heard this a couple of times) it is required to have like 300 posts or 300 posts related to the game to get in..and be a user..

to be a regular poster..

that could be a much more logical solution (if not 300..a determined number)

anyway :shrug:

ExcaliburII
06-21-2007, 11:31 PM
:haha:, as soon as a I get a camera or a scanner here Ill upload mine :p

ExcaliburII
06-21-2007, 11:32 PM
No Id = No TT :devil:

scarecrows
06-21-2007, 11:32 PM
i was kidding of course
it makes me sick just the idea of people creating second accounts to do well in an internet game where you dont win a single dime

GustavoM_Fan
06-21-2007, 11:33 PM
I am sure locoxcañas and diego are different persons.....

and I really like him to continue playing TT....

I only dont like tt-multiple accounts....

yemok
06-21-2007, 11:34 PM
i was kidding of course
it makes me sick just the idea of people creating second accounts to do well in an internet game where you dont win a single dime

You're too closeminded :smash:

Open mind - lot's of accounts and possibilities ;)

ArielCH.
06-21-2007, 11:35 PM
here is my brother ids

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/245/dniregistroxd7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

TankingTheSet
06-21-2007, 11:37 PM
I don't think if locoxcanas and diegoarg post ID's that they should be cleared -- at least diegoarg has virtually been proven of using multiple accounts and they seem to be very closely related.

scarecrows
06-21-2007, 11:39 PM
You're too closeminded :smash:

Open mind - lot's of accounts and possibilities ;)

ah yeah, thanks for opening my mind, Biliana

ExcaliburII
06-21-2007, 11:40 PM
You're too closeminded :smash:

Open mind - lot's of accounts and possibilities ;)

:worship:
Thats why you opened a new account? (you trying to be more opened minded :haha:) Just kidding.

yemok
06-21-2007, 11:40 PM
I don't think if locoxcanas and diegoarg post ID's that they should be cleared -- at least diegoarg has virtually been proven of using multiple accounts and they seem to be very closely related.


Sure thing... but hey, maybe there's a reasonable explanation for everything, let's wait and see...

FiBeR
06-21-2007, 11:45 PM
You're too closeminded :smash:

Open mind - lot's of accounts and possibilities ;)

:lol: nice one!

ah yeah, thanks for opening my mind, Biliana

touchè :haha:

yemok
06-21-2007, 11:51 PM
ah yeah, thanks for opening my mind, Biliana

:rolls:


:worship:
Thats why you opened a new account? (you trying to be more opened minded :haha:) Just kidding.

Yeah, but I'm using slightly better my dual account ;)
And this girl of my dreams, biliana, which I am creating and still constructing... she's the same for me as 'Simone' for Al Pacino... And she looks so real :hearts:

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2002/coming.attractions/interactive/coming.attractions/simone.jpg

ExcaliburII
06-21-2007, 11:52 PM
:haha: Yesterday I saw your Id and Bilianas one :haha:

Caio_Brasil
06-21-2007, 11:58 PM
it's so sad that this is happening... maybe all gets clear and who deserves to can play TT

i was kidding of course
it makes me sick just the idea of people creating second accounts to do well in an internet game where you dont win a single dime

that's the major point i agree... i play all MTF games just for fun (and i have a lot of fun actually)... why to open another account :retard:

FiBeR
06-21-2007, 11:58 PM
this is like.. a pretty addicting sope opera! :p (im sorry but..it is!) ill go get some pop corn and carry on reading

yemok
06-21-2007, 11:59 PM
:haha: Yesterday I saw your Id and Bilianas one :haha:

Nah, these pictures are so fake :p

ExcaliburII
06-22-2007, 12:01 AM
it's so sad that this is happening... maybe all gets clear and who deserves to can play TT



that's the major point i agree... i play all MTF games just for fun (and i have a lot of fun actually)... why to open another account :retard:
double fun :p
Nah, these pictures are so fake :p


I suspected it. :haha:

BTW, Fiber=ExcaliburII=manu86. :wavey:

I say this because i am retiring from TT with the three accounts, so do what you want. (Ah, I had two previous accs also, who nobody discovered)

FiBeR
06-22-2007, 12:01 AM
it's so sad that this is happening... maybe all gets clear and who deserves to can play TT



that's the major point i agree... i play all MTF games just for fun (and i have a lot of fun actually)... why to open another account :retard:



I really find it stupid to try to get advantage in a game.. its just a game..

I mean.. hey! its just for fun..

I agree 100% to that.. I just cant get how come someone would like to try to do that.. it is not fun..

I mean..its not like you can mix up your ranking points and boost them.. :tape: .. if you have a good week with one account..and then a good with another..its not gonna better your ranking..

I dont know..i just cant think of a reason for people doing this.. or.. managing a tourney and force them winners.. its like :retard: it is not fun

FiBeR
06-22-2007, 12:03 AM
Pablito :p you wish you were me :p

but you re not half as sexy as i am :kiss:

(that's sick :eek:)

I have a confesion.. Im tommy robredo in disguised.. :p thats me in the picture..actually

ExcaliburII
06-22-2007, 12:06 AM
Pablito :p you wish you were me :p

but you re not half as sexy as i am :kiss:

(that's sick :eek:)

I have a confesion.. Im tommy robredo in disguised.. :p thats me in the picture..actually

ARe you mad, you aren t as half as sexy as i am. :haha:

Well, no more desvirtuation :p

Caio_Brasil
06-22-2007, 12:07 AM
what's the deal about this Karim Vlasic??

Enjoy Incubus
06-22-2007, 12:10 AM
Ok ok... before you've got me Josh... I dont speak Chinese, just made it for fun, please don't ban me:p

ExcaliburII
06-22-2007, 12:11 AM
Cipa=GustavoM_Fan, please DNIs.

FiBeR
06-22-2007, 12:14 AM
not funny anymore pablito :p

this is something quite serious (:eek:)

I mean..it is just a game but some people (most of em) take it seriously.. :)

GustavoM_Fan
06-22-2007, 12:43 AM
we have a conclusion now = diego36arg and locoxcañas show their IDs, and apparenly different persons....

but what about the others???
Loren_2007 apparently work in the same place than diego36arg.....

Is Diego online to confirm this????

GustavoM_Fan
06-22-2007, 12:48 AM
From TT Dulce de Leche....

Page: http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=99486&page=319 (http://http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=99486&page=319)
Post :http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=5555458&postcount=4783 (http://http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=5555458&postcount=4783)

Salvo a mi hermano, no conozco a los otros acusados =
Excepting my brother i dont have knowledge about the other users......... (He forget Lorenzo)

EDIT:

Probably he confused here... he should talk about his relations of him about JESSY, JULYTOTAL and natytaty83.....


Diego and Loren_2007 work in the same place.....

ExcaliburII
06-22-2007, 03:24 AM
We ve just discovered with Felipe, that Loren2007, (Lorenzo Perrupato, has a true House in ARgentina).

But diego said he lived in Timoteo XX 1447 (name and number of a street). And we found out that Lorenzo Perrupato (Loren2007) lives in Timoteo XX 1413.

So aparently they live in the same street. :tape:

ExcaliburII
06-22-2007, 03:31 AM
Well, Loren is definetely himself. Ive just called to his house :p. He has a brand called LorenPropiedades :haha:

TMJordan
06-22-2007, 03:47 AM
Damn closed minded Europeans :p

ExcaliburII
06-22-2007, 03:53 AM
Definetely, locoxcañas, diego36arg and Loren2007 are different people.

diego36ag gave his direction of house and Loren passed his ID. Wth this I could get his office number. I called and the brand is called LorenPropiedades.
then I talked with locoxcañas, and he told me that his brother lives 20 mts away from his office (this coincides with the national database, (diego is in 1420, and the office is at 1447).

The brand exists and some users now it, such as Fiber, he can confirm the existance of LorenPropiedades.

BTW, the IDs locoxcañas and diego36arg exists and are 100% true.


So I think locoxcañas, diego36arg, and Loren2007 shouldnt be banned.

keqtqiadv
06-22-2007, 04:02 AM
Definetely, locoxcañas, diego36arg and Loren2007 are different people.

diego36ag gave his direction of house and Loren passed his ID. Wth this I could get his office number. I called and the brand is called LorenPropiedades.
then I talked with locoxcañas, and he told me that his brother lives 20 mts away from his office (this coincides with the national database, (diego is in 1420, and the office is at 1447).

The brand exists and some users now it, such as Fiber, he can confirm the existance of LorenPropiedades.

BTW, the IDs locoxcañas and diego36arg exists and are 100% true.


So I think locoxcañas, diego36arg, and Loren2007 shouldnt be banned.
the ban is given to someone who plays with multiple accounts. If it's proven that one of them is JULYTOTAL/natytaty/JESY, this player should be banned. :p

ExcaliburII
06-22-2007, 04:15 AM
BUt for example if Loren2007 is JulyTotal, why should diego36arg and locoxcañas be banned?

yemok
06-22-2007, 04:40 AM
BUt for example if Loren2007 is JulyTotal, why should diego36arg and locoxcañas be banned?

There are a lot of factors involved in the story and you don't know (and/or don't understand) all of them. Please take my advice and stop discussing hypothetic situations, just wait a bit and let the board (pretty fair people there ;) ) decide what will happen. I can't remember a ban of innocent player so far in TT and there's no reason to start banning random argentinian players right now... So just relax and keep watching the drama :)

:wavey:

GustavoM_Fan
06-22-2007, 05:38 AM
I think they should talk about his relations with JULYTOTAL, JESSY1983 and natytaty83.......

W!MBLEDON
06-22-2007, 08:14 AM
this is not good :tape: I'm playing with JESY in doubles in Germany

scarecrows
06-22-2007, 08:23 AM
what's the deal about this Karim Vlasic??

Karim Vlasic = Germanstar = ganystar = marmalade (maybe some others ?????)

made a real mess in the challengers of the end of last year as he was managing tournaments as Karim Vlasic. in Helsinki Germanstar and Ganystar played against each other in semifinal :tape:

yemok
06-22-2007, 08:28 AM
Karim Vlasic = Germanstar = ganystar = marmalade (maybe some others ?????)

made a real mess in the challengers of the end of last year as he was managing tournaments as Karim Vlasic. in Helsinki Germanstar and Ganystar played against each other in semifinal :tape:


Clearly the match of 2006, highest class play... it's pity this encounter didn't win public recognition :(

A_Skywalker
06-22-2007, 10:13 AM
Wow, this sounds like a investigation of murederer. I mean, just read the above posts :)

Nathaliia
06-22-2007, 10:20 AM
If you suspect any person of playing Tennis Tipping with multiple accounts please contact any member of the board via pm only, please don't state it here. If your suspicions are valid they will be written here by a member of the board.

Thank you and play fair ;)

Board :

Adee-Gee
Labamba
Keqtqiadv
Gavnich77
Invu2day

lol lol at first I read this post and thought the mentioned posters are one person. I would accuse Adam of serious no-life-having.

A_Skywalker
06-22-2007, 10:48 AM
:rolls:




Yeah, but I'm using slightly better my dual account ;)
And this girl of my dreams, biliana, which I am creating and still constructing... she's the same for me as 'Simone' for Al Pacino... And she looks so real :hearts:

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2002/coming.attractions/interactive/coming.attractions/simone.jpg

Come on Emo, why do you lie the people. If we compare the results of biliana and yemok we will see easily that they are 2 different persons :lol:

yemok
06-22-2007, 02:33 PM
Come on Emo, why do you lie the people. If we compare the results of biliana and yemok we will see easily that they are 2 different persons :lol:

C'mon, stop it! The embarrassment @ home is pretty enough for me, no need to discuss this here too... Maybe I should start to cook and embroider... :awww:

adee-gee
06-22-2007, 02:55 PM
lol lol at first I read this post and thought the mentioned posters are one person. I would accuse Adam of serious no-life-having.

:spit:

You can accuse me of that anyway :p

Nathaliia
06-22-2007, 06:48 PM
Adam, imagine, if to merge our posts and chat threads................

ExcaliburII
06-22-2007, 09:18 PM
There are a lot of factors involved in the story and you don't know (and/or don't understand) all of them. Please take my advice and stop discussing hypothetic situations, just wait a bit and let the board (pretty fair people there ;) ) decide what will happen. I can't remember a ban of innocent player so far in TT and there's no reason to start banning random argentinian players right now... So just relax and keep watching the drama :)

:wavey:

:confused:
I think I know about this a lot more than you do.

Nathaliia
06-22-2007, 10:22 PM
I think that Emo was provided some information :wavey:

Good luck with making fair decisions guys.

yemok
06-22-2007, 11:34 PM
:confused:
I think I know about this a lot more than you do.

I think you are continuing to embarrass yourself. And in this context I am starting to believe you and rob88hock are the same person too (check up - HERE (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=91453&page=8))! :confused:

Actually (according to your posts in this thread) you don't even understand where is the real problem in this case... anyway

Stay cool! :cool:

ExcaliburII
06-23-2007, 01:36 AM
:haha:

I know what the problem is, and what the solution should be.

Ive been investating this with Felipe and some other guys in Dulce de Leche, since the day they started. Plus, I have addiotional information that you will never be able to get except you come to Argentina.

Still waiting for your amazing piece of information :rolleyes:

Caio_Brasil
06-23-2007, 02:23 AM
Karim Vlasic = Germanstar = ganystar = marmalade (maybe some others ?????)

made a real mess in the challengers of the end of last year as he was managing tournaments as Karim Vlasic. in Helsinki Germanstar and Ganystar played against each other in semifinal :tape:

:lol: what a retard!

invu2day
06-23-2007, 03:27 AM
Karim Vlasic = Germanstar = ganystar = marmalade (maybe some others ?????)

made a real mess in the challengers of the end of last year as he was managing tournaments as Karim Vlasic. in Helsinki Germanstar and Ganystar played against each other in semifinal :tape:Apparantly some mods believe Karim Vlasic is alive and well still playing TT. :haha:

yemok
06-23-2007, 03:59 AM
Well, that's my last post in this thread. So far I was trying nicely to stop you, Pablo (the number 1 poster in the thread), from misleading and confusing the other players (who are just curious what's going on) with your wrong opinions. It's pretty clear on page 1 what's all about - you missed the point, Josh told it to you - still nothing, he did it once again - NOP, Murilo explained it just for you - just another useless shot in the dark :sad: I have tons of patience but it's now over and I can't be nice anymore :( Take a look at your advices and thoughts, most of them have nothing to do with the real subject or are just wrong...


I would only suspend Julytotal, Jessy and Loren2007 for now, and analyze the other cases better. locoxcañas, diego36arg and natytaty83 at least have an own personality, and post now and again.

I would let there cases under analisis but still playing.
Just my two cents :wavey:


WRONG and against the TT rules!



Anyway, I heard that if you have 2 accs, one of them is suspended for the first time.

locoxcañas and natytaty shouldnt be banned there is no reason for it.

ALL WRONG! Well, I heared a lot of things last night in the club too, they should be all right, no? :awww:


but I cant see how natytaty is relationed with all the others.

SO lets say if your brother commits a crime, should you go to prison also?

Are you blind?!?! It's on the first page, kid!!!!!!!


so if the two brothers post their Ids they will be able to play? Only the players who dont post their IDs should be suspended.

SO WRONG!


We ve just discovered, that Loren2007, (Lorenzo Perrupato, has a true House in ARgentina).

But diego said he lived in Timoteo XX 1447 (name and number of a street). And we found out that Lorenzo Perrupato (Loren2007) lives in Timoteo XX 1413.

So aparently they live in the same street. :tape:

Wow, on the same street?!? Somebody call CNN!
p.s. and how many of them are vegetarians? It's no less important than where they live, it's pity that has nothing to do with the multiple accounts though...


Definetely, locoxcañas, diego36arg and Loren2007 are different people.

So I think locoxcañas, diego36arg, and Loren2007 shouldnt be banned.

No comment...


BUt for example if Loren2007 is JulyTotal, why should diego36arg and locoxcañas be banned?

Well, only 4-5 times it was explained why...


:confused:
I think I know about this a lot more than you do.

:worship: :worship: You know their adresses and telephone numbers :eek: and I know only their picks from RG and Wimby... You got me here, Champ! :bowdown:


:haha:

I know what the problem is, and what the solution should be.

Ive been investating this with Felipe and some other guys in Dulce de Leche, since the day they started. Plus, I have addiotional information that you will never be able to get except you come to Argentina.

Still waiting for your amazing piece of information :rolleyes:


I don't know if I could continue living without that vital information hidden in the mountains of Argentina, at least I'll try...
We already read a lot of solutions from you, please spare at least that one! And can't you see you're the ONLY ONE who tells all the time what should be done, who is guilty and who not?!?! Just behave kid, and wait for the decision of the board like everyone else here...
And I'd never write that I have amazing piece of information?!?! I was just trying to tell you gently

http://www.luhring-design.com/photography/series/shut-up/shut-up-book.jpg




:hatoff:

GustavoM_Fan
06-23-2007, 04:37 AM
Do you remember this post????
It´s about natytaty83 and JULYTOTAL

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=103274&page=9

A_Skywalker
06-23-2007, 09:47 AM
Apparantly some mods believe Karim Vlasic is alive and well still playing TT. :haha:

Isnt he :eek: ?

savesthedizzle
06-23-2007, 01:02 PM
Isnt he :eek: ?

It's possible... there are some investigations.

This is all so crazy to me. :tape:

ExcaliburII
06-23-2007, 04:08 PM
Well, it seems you are the one who doesnt understand... It also seems as if your whole life depends on TT :o You are arguing something that you dont even know what it is about. It seems that you want to have an important paper in every thing on TT, maybe to become a TT board member,am I wrong? I hope you wont acomplish it because TT will be a lot worse than it actually is. BTW, Why are you telling me kid, constantly, does it worry you I am only 17?

On Theme:
I developed a new theory:

natytaty could be controlled by two persons. This is because sometimes natytaty sends picks in a certain hour (lets say 5-7pm) and she sends this type of picks:

Pless 6-4 6-2
Lorenzi 6-3 6-4
Fognini
Gil 6-4 6-2

But when she sends between 7-9pm lets say, she sends this type of picks:

Kristian Pless (DEN) 6-4 6-2
Paolo Lorenzi (ITA) 6-3 6-4




So, at afternoon it is controlled by X, and a t night by Y.

:wavey:

Nadie
06-23-2007, 04:45 PM
oh lord :spit: :spit: :spit: the real detective story happens here :spit:

So sometimes I send picks like Kristian Pless (DEN) 6-4 6-2 and sometimes like Kristian Pless 6-4 6-2 and sometimes like Pless 6-4 6-2 I usually just copy the OOP to new PM, the OOP as it was published by manager :) and I only pay attention on the type of my picks if managers ask for sending only last names of players ;) I hope it doesn't mean that my account is controlled by 3 persons :scratch: :scared: :eek: :bolt: :spit:

A_Skywalker
06-23-2007, 05:02 PM
oh lord :spit: :spit: :spit: the real detective story happens here :spit:

So sometimes I send picks like Kristian Pless (DEN) 6-4 6-2 and sometimes like Kristian Pless 6-4 6-2 and sometimes like Pless 6-4 6-2 I usually just copy the OOP to new PM, the OOP as it was published by manager :) and I only pay attention on the type of my picks if managers ask for sending only last names of players ;) I hope it doesn't mean that my account is controlled by 3 persons :scratch: :scared: :eek: :bolt: :spit:

:lol: You should watch Identity :p

GustavoM_Fan
06-23-2007, 05:07 PM
oh lord :spit: :spit: :spit: the real detective story happens here :spit:

So sometimes I send picks like Kristian Pless (DEN) 6-4 6-2 and sometimes like Kristian Pless 6-4 6-2 and sometimes like Pless 6-4 6-2 I usually just copy the OOP to new PM, the OOP as it was published by manager :) and I only pay attention on the type of my picks if managers ask for sending only last names of players ;) I hope it doesn't mean that my account is controlled by 3 persons :scratch: :scared: :eek: :bolt: :spit:

Excalibur is talking about a certain hour.... and that happen all days!!! ;)

5-7 PM Wessels 6-0 6-0
9-10 PM Peter Wessels (NED) 6-0 6-0


5-7 PM used by A
9-10 PM used by B.... ;)

natytaty83
06-23-2007, 05:18 PM
Well, it seems you are the one who doesnt understand... It also seems as if your whole life depends on TT :o You are arguing something that you dont even know what it is about. It seems that you want to have an important paper in every thing on TT, maybe to become a TT board member,am I wrong? I hope you wont acomplish it because TT will be a lot worse than it actually is. BTW, Why are you telling me kid, constantly, does it worry you I am only 17?

On Theme:
I developed a new theory:

natytaty could be controlled by two persons. This is because sometimes natytaty sends picks in a certain hour (lets say 5-7pm) and she sends this type of picks:

Pless 6-4 6-2
Lorenzi 6-3 6-4
Fognini
Gil 6-4 6-2

But when she sends between 7-9pm lets say, she sends this type of picks:

Kristian Pless (DEN) 6-4 6-2
Paolo Lorenzi (ITA) 6-3 6-4




So, at afternoon it is controlled by X, and a t night by Y.

:wavey:

I´m sorry, I not knew of the rules to order results and there are times to do it. I swear the next time I´ll do it as you say

biliana
06-23-2007, 05:18 PM
Well, it seems you are the one who doesnt understand... It also seems as if your whole life depends on TT :o You are arguing something that you dont even know what it is about. It seems that you want to have an important paper in every thing on TT, maybe to become a TT board member,am I wrong? I hope you wont acomplish it because TT will be a lot worse than it actually is. BTW, Why are you telling me kid, constantly, does it worry you I am only 17?


i need to laugh on this and laugh deeply :haha: Emo wont waste more time with you and that is why i will tell you a few words :) he took a part in this only because he happens to be a manager in roland garros and wimbledon. you don't worry about the tt board - they all are amazing managers and very quality people too and may be you should let them take the decisions. but you have a great new theory - 2 pictures of you+biography and you are IN the CIA or FBI or even the best - CTU LA :)
as a girlfriend of Emo i should apologize to everyon for all damage he did to TT so far and will do in the future ;) if you really think that you are either silly or crazy don't know which. it's really sad you are the only one who can't see how ridicilous you are sometimes :sad:

have a good time :wavey:

savesthedizzle
06-23-2007, 07:04 PM
Oh gosh, there is about to be a TT civil war over this issue. :tape:

propaganda
06-23-2007, 08:06 PM
if you really think that you are either silly or crazy don`t know which.

I vote for CRAZY :)

Haile Selassie
06-23-2007, 10:00 PM
Do you remember this post????
It´s about natytaty83 and JULYTOTAL

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=103274&page=9

:lol: :lol: :yeah:

Caio_Brasil
06-23-2007, 10:09 PM
Oh gosh, there is about to be a TT civil war over this issue. :tape:

:haha: that's what I thought :yeah:

ExcaliburII
06-23-2007, 10:39 PM
i need to laugh on this and laugh deeply :haha: Emo wont waste more time with you and that is why i will tell you a few words :) he took a part in this only because he happens to be a manager in roland garros and wimbledon. you don't worry about the tt board - they all are amazing managers and very quality people too and may be you should let them take the decisions. but you have a great new theory - 2 pictures of you+biography and you are IN the CIA or FBI or even the best - CTU LA :)
as a girlfriend of Emo i should apologize to everyon for all damage he did to TT so far and will do in the future ;) if you really think that you are either silly or crazy don't know which. it's really sad you are the only one who can't see how ridicilous you are sometimes :sad:

have a good time :wavey:
:eek: You know its my dream to work in the CIA, thats why I am trying to do all this here. :rolleyes:

Oh gosh, there is about to be a TT civil war over this issue. :tape:
:p
I vote for CRAZY :)

Do you have a mirror?

alansk
06-23-2007, 11:03 PM
Oh gosh, there is about to be a TT civil war over this issue. :tape:

:lol: but actually I'm really :mad: at the moment too :tape:

Some TTers (excalibur you just joined the list :rolleyes:) just drive me nuts and maybe it's time to hang up the "diamond encrusted tipping gloves". :sobbing:

Who am I kidding :p

jazar
06-24-2007, 10:57 AM
oh lord :spit: :spit: :spit: the real detective story happens here :spit:

So sometimes I send picks like Kristian Pless (DEN) 6-4 6-2 and sometimes like Kristian Pless 6-4 6-2 and sometimes like Pless 6-4 6-2 I usually just copy the OOP to new PM, the OOP as it was published by manager :) and I only pay attention on the type of my picks if managers ask for sending only last names of players ;) I hope it doesn't mean that my account is controlled by 3 persons :scratch: :scared: :eek: :bolt: :spit:

it simply means you have a multiple personality disorder

Aleka
06-24-2007, 12:33 PM
it simply means you have a multiple personality disorder
:lol: Nadia :hug: I sometimes do that too :help:

TT war!!!!! :rocker2: :rocker2:

:armed: who wants some??!!!! :armed:







:haha: :haha:

MissPovaFan
06-24-2007, 12:47 PM
I have been out of the loop for a few days due to work commitments but I now return to see my partner at Wimbledon banned from TT? Looking at the posts by ExcaliburII there is no firm ground for the suspension. As a result of this I am also in effect "suspended" from Wimbledon doubles whilst doing nothing wrong. I would like to know what exactly is going to be done about this?

MissPovaFan
06-24-2007, 01:08 PM
My position in this has been cleared up thank you so please ignore the above message.

invu2day
06-24-2007, 07:05 PM
Current Ban details posted and will always be posted in posts 1 & 3 of this thread.

Rik.
06-24-2007, 07:15 PM
Current Ban details posted and will always be posted in posts 1 & 3 of this thread.

wow :eek: Playagirl and Ellery are the same person as Karim Vlasic.

stealthisnick
06-24-2007, 07:22 PM
playagirl is the manager of reggio emilia challenger that starts tomorrow

Rik.
06-24-2007, 07:25 PM
playagirl is the manager of reggio emilia challenger that starts tomorrow

I can take it over, if Labamba agrees.

Taz Warrior
06-24-2007, 07:25 PM
playagirl is the manager of reggio emilia challenger that starts tomorrow
Labamba has volunteered to take over the management of this tournament :worship:

Rik.
06-24-2007, 07:26 PM
Labamba has volunteered to take over the management of this tournament :worship:

ok then Labamba does :p :lol:

stealthisnick
06-24-2007, 07:27 PM
Labamba has volunteered to take over the management of this tournament :worship:

so we will be grateful for his sacrifice :)

Tomek.
06-24-2007, 08:00 PM
now you know why on WTAW to play TT you have to be a member for 3 months and have 100 posts :p

A_Skywalker
06-24-2007, 08:00 PM
Karim was alive :D

Tomek.
06-24-2007, 08:04 PM
Karim was alive :D

like on wtaw :lol:

we have more banned users :p

KuZy FaN,
GueYue,
6Myskina6,
Germanstar [now FashionMan] ,
Karim A,
Playaboy,
RosirCalderon
SonyaCengiz
aussie_jas
E.Dementieva_FAN
Pixie

:p

Rik.
06-24-2007, 08:08 PM
like on wtaw :lol:

we have more banned users :p

KuZy FaN,
GueYue,
6Myskina6,
Germanstar [now FashionMan] ,
Karim A,
Playaboy,
RosirCalderon
SonyaCengiz
aussie_jas
E.Dementieva_FAN
Pixie

:p

Why are the last 2 banned? :p

Tomek.
06-24-2007, 08:09 PM
Why are the last 2 banned? :p

multiple accounts :p

Rik.
06-24-2007, 08:14 PM
multiple accounts :p

:eek:
They are playing TT here :lol:
E.Dementieva_FAN = James_Blake_FAN

Nadie
06-24-2007, 08:17 PM
:eek:
They are playing TT here :lol:
E.Dementieva_FAN = J.Blake_FAN

OMG :bolt: :lol:

Tomek.
06-24-2007, 08:18 PM
:eek:
They are playing TT here :lol:
E.Dementieva_FAN = J.Blake_FAN

it was something else about what I dona wanna post here ;)

Aleka
06-24-2007, 08:19 PM
wow :eek: Playagirl and Ellery are the same person as Karim Vlasic.
:haha: :haha: some ppl just have no life :sad:

SloKid
06-24-2007, 08:33 PM
This Ellery discovery means that 3 of Germanstar's aliases played in the now infamous Helsinki challenger quarterfinal. :worship:

meninosantos
06-24-2007, 08:42 PM
it was something else about what I dona wanna post here ;)

Tomek why was aussie_jas banned? There's a person who's called Jas_aussie in WTA TT

Rik.
06-24-2007, 08:44 PM
Tomek why was aussie_jas banned? There's a person who's called Jas_aussie in WTA TT

I also had this question in my mind. :lol:

Tomek.
06-24-2007, 08:52 PM
ask better on msn than here :p

muniu
06-24-2007, 08:57 PM
:eek:
They are playing TT here :lol:
E.Dementieva_FAN = James_Blake_FAN

I'll beat him anyway :P :devil:

Nathaliia
06-24-2007, 09:01 PM
Pixie?

Pixie is also on MTF but I know him long before TT started :lol:

Snowwy
06-24-2007, 09:08 PM
Wow, good work tot he members fo teh board to catch all these people

alansk
06-24-2007, 09:08 PM
Wow in Yuba I played doubles with Ellery and I was beaten by JULYTOTAL in Rd1 and then JULYTOTAL beat Ellery in Rd2. I think... :lol:

FiBeR
06-24-2007, 09:10 PM
:bolt:

Oh my god.. there is a lot more than meets the eye.. I feel scared..

Ellery and Playagirl are not real? :eek: how come karim klassic and his other accounts are not listed in the first page? only as a formality?

this is so depressing..


I love this game, why are so many people trying to turn it into a disgrace? :sad:

this sucks...

SloKid
06-24-2007, 09:10 PM
Pixie?

Pixie is also on MTF but I know him long before TT started :lol:
He might've "stolen" Ellery's identity from wtaworld for mtf and vice versa with Pixie for wtaworld.

maldini
06-24-2007, 09:13 PM
:bolt:

Oh my god.. there is a lot more than meets the eye.. I feel scared..

Ellery and Playagirl are not real? :eek: how come karim klassic and his other accounts are not listed in the first page? only as a formality?

this is so depressing..


I love this game, why are so many people trying to turn it into a disgrace? :sad:

this sucks...


yeah this very sad :sad:

i mean, guys, it's only a game, you can't even win a prize or so!

Snowwy
06-24-2007, 09:20 PM
i mean, guys, it's only a game, you can't even win a prize or so!

Exactly

meninosantos
06-24-2007, 09:57 PM
Did anyone see the post Locoxcanax make in DDL?

Rik.
06-24-2007, 09:57 PM
Did anyone see the post Locoxcanax make in DDL?

yes, but I can't read it :p

meninosantos
06-24-2007, 10:07 PM
yes, but I can't read it :p

Basically he/she said his picks have 2 hours or more from difference than the ones Natytaty sent...That the error he made sending picks was because that error was written in the OOP...He write that Invu2day is a liar and he just doesn't want to admitt that he made an error...

Rik.
06-24-2007, 10:15 PM
Basically he/she said his picks have 2 hours or more from difference than the ones Natytaty sent...That the error he made sending picks was because that error was written in the OOP...He write that Invu2day is a liar and he just doesn't want to admitt that he made an error...

I don't understand this.
I think 1,5 year is too much, why not 3 months.
He made a stupid error, I'm sure he learned about it.
What does other players think?

Snowwy
06-24-2007, 10:16 PM
I think 1,5 year is too much, why not 3 months.


Im guessing youre a Puerta fan?

Rik.
06-24-2007, 10:17 PM
Im guessing youre a Puerta fan?

I'm not :p

Rik.
06-24-2007, 10:21 PM
Basically he/she said his picks have 2 hours or more from difference than the ones Natytaty sent...That the error he made sending picks was because that error was written in the OOP...He write that Invu2day is a liar and he just doesn't want to admitt that he made an error...

He doesn't say that he made a fault.
Then 3 months is not enough, what I said first I take it back.

alansk
06-24-2007, 10:26 PM
Wow in Yuba I played doubles with Ellery and I was beaten by JULYTOTAL in Rd1 and then JULYTOTAL beat Ellery in Rd2. I think... :lol:

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?p=5568469#post5568469

invu2day
06-24-2007, 10:42 PM
Basically he/she said his picks have 2 hours or more from difference than the ones Natytaty sent...That the error he made sending picks was because that error was written in the OOP...He write that Invu2day is a liar and he just doesn't want to admitt that he made an error... http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m163/Invu2day/locox.png

As you can see Locoxcanas is totally correct and I'm a liar as there is clearly 2 hours or more between each post.:haha:
As for the error in the post. I received 42 pms that day. Yemok received 32 pms that day. From 74 pms, 72 people referred to Aisam-Ul-Haq Qureshi as 'Qureshi'. Only 2 people referred to Aisam-Ul-Haq Qureshi as 'Ul-Haq Qureshi'. $64,000 to anyone who can tell me who those 2 people were ;)

Blue Heart24
06-24-2007, 10:51 PM
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m163/Invu2day/locox.png

As you can see Locoxcanas is totally correct and I'm a liar as there is clearly 2 hours or more between each post.:haha:
As for the error in the post. I received 42 pms that day. Yemok received 32 pms that day. From 74 pms, 72 people referred to Aisam-Ul-Haq Qureshi as 'Qureshi'. Only 2 people referred to Aisam-Ul-Haq Qureshi as 'Ul-Haq Qureshi'. $64,000 to anyone who can tell me who those 2 people were ;)

:haha:

Blue Heart24
06-24-2007, 10:52 PM
This Karim is unreal.I think he wont stop here :scared:

Make sure we all check any new players.

This guy is a professional cheater :tape:

Nathaliia
06-24-2007, 10:58 PM
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?p=5568469#post5568469
It must feel like you sleep with someone and you almost fall in love, and in the morning that person tells you s/he's married :o

adee-gee
06-24-2007, 11:07 PM
Basically he/she said his picks have 2 hours or more from difference than the ones Natytaty sent...That the error he made sending picks was because that error was written in the OOP...He write that Invu2day is a liar and he just doesn't want to admitt that he made an error...

Apart from the fact invu2day has just proven this to be incorrect, how does he/she know what time Natytaty sent picks?!?! :o

Caio_Brasil
06-24-2007, 11:11 PM
I'M KARIM TOO :devil:

keqtqiadv
06-24-2007, 11:15 PM
Apart from the fact invu2day has just proven this to be incorrect, how does he/she know what time Natytaty sent picks?!?! :o
MSN :rolleyes: I wonder why he activated "invisible mode" :p

Nathaliia
06-24-2007, 11:15 PM
No, you know too much about swimming in Brazil :rolls:

adee-gee
06-24-2007, 11:18 PM
MSN :rolleyes: I wonder why he activated "invisible mode" :p

There seems to be an incredible amount of coincidences here :p

Caio_Brasil
06-24-2007, 11:23 PM
No, you know too much about swimming in Brazil :rolls:

and why can't Karim know abou swimming? :p

TMJordan
06-24-2007, 11:57 PM
You guys will never guess who my other account is :cool:

FiBeR
06-25-2007, 12:48 AM
now you re only making DDL famous :) and infamous! :sad:

damm it! :sad:

njnetswill
06-25-2007, 02:25 AM
Ellery :eek:

I could have sworn it was the same Ellery girl from WTAworld. :unsure:

FiBeR
06-25-2007, 02:31 AM
I hope we catch everyone who is cheating ;)

In fact.. I KNOW we will :mad:


you re all going down, bastards :armed:

ExcaliburII
06-25-2007, 02:41 AM
I won a doubles title with the legendary karim vlasic then :haha: (Ellery).

Nathaliia
06-25-2007, 05:35 AM
Ellery :eek:

I could have sworn it was the same Ellery girl from WTAworld. :unsure:
According to SloKid, who is a mod also on WTAworld, Ellery out there is a guy and doesn't have an account on MTF.

He played on WTAworld with a username Pixie, and Pixie is a French guy from MTF, no idea if he has account over there, but it is just very sad overall.

FiBeR
06-25-2007, 05:57 AM
this all sucks.. its like.. a witch-hunt and now i feel it's like everyone is pointing fingers in any direction.. or thinking about pointing fingers (which is actually the same in this case) and now a full sense of insecurity regarding trust is in the air..

I think the ONE thing that keeps this game running.. and should..and must is TRUST (that's what ive been explaining excaliburII on msn and i tried to make him see why all this is so important)

this game is based in trust.. we all trust that when we send our picks the manager does what he is suppossed to..for eg.

we trust that what we send is what is shown, and that what our rivals send is what they did send..

Trust.. the board trust "managers" to manage a tourney, they have faith that the manager will be fair and equal and will do their job, and will do the best for everyone,..

we, players, trust in managers, managers are players, it's a circle.. we also trust there is good will and fair play..we also trust in our doubles partners will send picks,etc

the importance here.. is not that much if someone has or had more than 1 account..that is important, but up to some point..(anyone can make a gross mistake we re only humans)

the worse here.. is lying.. and disrespect.. and to play with trust..

(in my opinion, of course)

trust is everything, there is no control (up to this point) on certain things.. there are gaps of the game where we must trust on us.. if this is lost.. this game is doomed..

to play with trust, is the worse someone on TT can do..( there are certain ways to find out though..)

Anyone can make a mistake..anyone can be wrong, and regret it..

it is a matter of having balls (or ovaries) to take that step and say "hey.. im sorry, i made a mistake and i wont ever do it again and i take my responsibility".. that is the biggest fault someone can do.. hide in annonimacy..and dont face the consecuences of acts and carry on a lie..

im really concerned about this subject.. im sorry to keep writing and writing.. i just needed to let this out.. thanks

Ray.-

Tankman
06-25-2007, 08:34 AM
now you know why on WTAW to play TT you have to be a member for 3 months and have 100 posts :p

I think this would be a good policy to use here too. Would the board members agree with me?

Iza
06-25-2007, 08:48 AM
i nearly won a title with karim Vlasic :haha: :haha:

Labamba
06-25-2007, 08:50 AM
I think this would be a good policy to use here too. Would the board members agree with me?

Karim would still come back :lol:

It's not a faultless policy and we don't want to turn away the new (honest) players. We need to come up with a better solution then the 3 months and 100 posts.

Eagle687
06-25-2007, 09:10 AM
Playagirl : great. I lost in my first attempt to qualify for the Wimbledon legend to a cheater...
That is excellent. I'll just have to wait one more year...

alansk
06-25-2007, 09:11 AM
Karim would still come back :lol:

It's not a faultless policy and we don't want to turn away the new (honest) players. We need to come up with a better solution then the 3 months and 100 posts.

How about a "TT new player registration thread" or somesuch :shrug:

They can introduce themselves (full name, age, sexual orientation, genealogy, taxable income, etc :lol:) and we can quiz them a little bit in a friendly way if they seem dodgy :aplot:

invu2day
06-25-2007, 09:45 AM
Karim would still come back :lol:

It's not a faultless policy and we don't want to turn away the new (honest) players. We need to come up with a better solution then the 3 months and 100 posts.
How about a non refundable deposit of £100 for 2 years. If they are found not to be cheating after 2 years we will refund the money. If they are found to be cheats they lose the money :devil:

A_Skywalker
06-25-2007, 09:47 AM
Only 100 euros, come on, just add 2 zeros :p

Nathaliia
06-25-2007, 09:52 AM
How about a non refundable deposit of £100 for 2 years. If they are found not to be cheating after 2 years we will refund the money. If they are found to be cheats they lose the money :devil:
Makes sense, IMO.

Just saw a new Argie poster with a date of birth 1983, starting the story with TT... geez, that is madness.... Of course it can be a normal poster, started from the introduction forum, posted in GM, but still I wouldn't like to play doubles with him :lol:

Tankman
06-25-2007, 12:38 PM
Concerning regulation of players; I guess you're right Labamba. Personally, I joined MTF to play TT. However, I don't think any amount of regulation will solve the problem- people like Karim, like you said, probably wouldn't be stopped by anything short of a $100 bond.

I think making new players introduce themselves in a registration thread is a great idea though; even though that isn't faultless, it will probably help, its (fairly) non-threatening and we'll get to know everyone better :)

Nathaliia
06-25-2007, 12:43 PM
IP check wouldn't be bad either, and actually ARG, this is a coincidence. I only said about that poster knowing that all banned members like to come back, and I say it as a moderator who has witnessed this or that.

It is unfair to judge on a country by few people, and Canas story is much longer than a word "doper", and actually if he cared, he could go around forums and sue every person saying this for defamation.

Please people, situation is fiery, let's not add papers inside the bonefire here in the discussion.

Tankman
06-25-2007, 01:00 PM
IP check wouldn't be bad either, and actually ARG, this is a coincidence. I only said about that poster knowing that all banned members like to come back, and I say it as a moderator who has witnessed this or that.

It is unfair to judge on a country by few people, and Canas story is much longer than a word "doper", and actually if he cared, he could go around forums and sue every person saying this for defamation.

Please people, situation is fiery, let's not add papers inside the bonefire here in the discussion.

sorry, that was probably an altogether inappropriate comment; it was just an observation i was overly tempted to make considering coincidental similarities- best to remove it I guess; as remote as the possibility sounds, I wouldn't want Canas suing me...

Definitely IP check- easiest way to find cheaters; funny though if two people legitimately wanted to/had to play TT on the same com

Nathaliia
06-25-2007, 01:03 PM
Anybody thought of having a TT mod, or making any of current mods the responsible one for TT? What about Adam, isn't he able to check IP in tournament section? He is in TT managers' board.

alansk
06-25-2007, 01:11 PM
Bring on the TT registration thread :rocker2: Personally I feel disconnected from the new players and would like to get to know them when they start :shrug:

Labamba
06-25-2007, 01:16 PM
Bring on the TT registration thread :rocker2: Personally I feel disconnected from the new players and would like to get to know them when they start :shrug:

I'm liking this idea too :cool: It won't solve all the problems, but it could be helpful and it's good to know a bit about your fellow tippers.

keqtqiadv
06-25-2007, 01:17 PM
:rocker2:

Marksman
06-25-2007, 01:18 PM
Bring on the TT registration thread :rocker2: Personally I feel disconnected from the new players and would like to get to know them when they start :shrug:

Yeah that would be fantastic :rocker2:, theres new people playing every week now that ive never seen either

btw, Alan love your sig :p

alansk
06-25-2007, 01:23 PM
Best idea I ever had :cool:

:lol:

Tomek.
06-25-2007, 01:35 PM
it will NOTHING change :p

Deathless Mortal
06-25-2007, 01:37 PM
You think it's hard for us, I mean them to think of some new identity to represent themselves? :p

stealthisnick
06-25-2007, 01:38 PM
i don't know if anyone here is also in hattrick
hattrick is an online manager football game that counts something like 990k users for all over the world
so with so much players there are a lot more cheaters than in TT (also because cheating in hattrick has much more effects on your team than cheating in TT has on your picks)
they challenge the problem with the "game masters" that have the specific duty to face that problem

so it's possible to make a TT game master with this task
you have to let all the players know who the GM is so if the normal player sees something strange or has the suspect on a possible cheater, he knows exactly what to do...show who the cheater is to the GM for a further investigation

alansk
06-25-2007, 01:48 PM
it will NOTHING change :p

You think it's hard for us, I mean them to think of some new identity to represent themselves? :p

It's a small, easily cleared barrier, but still, a barrier is a barrier. This barrier also has the added benefit of bringing the TT community closer together :p

Aleka
06-25-2007, 02:05 PM
Bring on the TT registration thread :rocker2: Personally I feel disconnected from the new players and would like to get to know them when they start :shrug:
Don't forget about posting an ID card or drivers license :haha: :haha:
i don't know if anyone here is also in hattrick
used to :lol: but got bored :o

meninosantos
06-25-2007, 02:17 PM
It's a small, easily cleared barrier, but still, a barrier is a barrier. This barrier also has the added benefit of bringing the TT community closer together :p

Like the world number 1/2/3/4 talking with the world number 177 :p

alansk
06-25-2007, 02:27 PM
Like the world number 1/2/3/4 talking with the world number 177 :p

:hug: :p

meninosantos
06-25-2007, 02:32 PM
:hug: :p

:haha: :hug:

meninosantos
06-25-2007, 02:33 PM
Btw I'm Rui, 15 :) from Portugal

Tzar
06-25-2007, 05:47 PM
Hey I Know Jessy, She is a friend of Milagros Sequera's mom, she lives where Mila trains i belive, or something like that, and honestly i dont think she uses 2 accounts :S sorry just my opion


pS. Ill love to get an awnser

SloKid
06-25-2007, 05:55 PM
If you need someone to do the IP checks, I can do them without a problem, it doesn't take much.

scarecrows
06-25-2007, 05:55 PM
This Ellery discovery means that 3 of Germanstar's aliases played in the now infamous Helsinki challenger quarterfinal. :worship:

:haha:

I think we should investigate well KalleOnAir who won that tournament. After all he's german like most of Karim's aliases :rolleyes:

Tzar
06-25-2007, 05:56 PM
How about a non refundable deposit of £100 for 2 years. If they are found not to be cheating after 2 years we will refund the money. If they are found to be cheats they lose the money :devil:

to me, this sounds more, like a bet i would like to join to

Tomek.
06-25-2007, 05:57 PM
I'm Tomek :p
still 20
Poland

and I'm not Tomek here :p

maldini
06-25-2007, 06:01 PM
Bring on the TT registration thread :rocker2: Personally I feel disconnected from the new players and would like to get to know them when they start :shrug:

great idea
i think, it should be opened by one of the board members, then the five board members can introduce themselves and after that, the rest of the players;)

Enjoy Incubus
06-25-2007, 06:13 PM
great idea
i think, it should be opened by one of the board members, then the five board members can introduce themselves and after that, the rest of the players;)
:yeah:

KalleOnAir
06-25-2007, 06:16 PM
Notice to all Managers:

Following players are currently serving a ban or permanent Ban. Hence they are not allowed to play TENNIS TIPPING:

Locoxcanas banned from TT until end of 2008 season
Diego36arg banned from TT until end of 2008 season
JESY1983 permanent ban from TT
JULYTOTAL permanent ban from TT
Natytaty83 permanent ban from TT
Loren2007 permanent ban from TT
Playagirl permanent ban from TT
Ellery permanent ban from TT

Details of ban in post 3

good work :yeah:

:haha:

I think we should investigate well KalleOnAir who won that tournament. After all he's german like most of Karim's aliases :rolleyes:

Yes, please :angel:

Tzar
06-25-2007, 06:19 PM
this game is freaking me out

Deathless Mortal
06-25-2007, 06:20 PM
I'm Karim, 25, Germany

Tzar
06-25-2007, 06:26 PM
I'm Karim, 25, Germany

:lol:

ExcaliburII
06-25-2007, 09:19 PM
i don't know if anyone here is also in hattrick
hattrick is an online manager football game that counts something like 990k users for all over the world
so with so much players there are a lot more cheaters than in TT (also because cheating in hattrick has much more effects on your team than cheating in TT has on your picks)
they challenge the problem with the "game masters" that have the specific duty to face that problem

so it's possible to make a TT game master with this task
you have to let all the players know who the GM is so if the normal player sees something strange or has the suspect on a possible cheater, he knows exactly what to do...show who the cheater is to the GM for a further investigation

whats your team? :p

ZackBusner
06-25-2007, 10:12 PM
whats your team? :p

What's your one? :p

maldini
06-25-2007, 10:14 PM
guys tell me your teams :p

i've only just started recently with hattrick.....

ZackBusner
06-25-2007, 10:18 PM
guys tell me your teams :p

i've only just started recently with hattrick.....

So you're not from Switzerland in reality? I always assumed all swiss people are playing HT since the beginning of times. Switzerland even had more teams than Germany for a long time.

(My team is Sportfreunde Stexwig, VI.1011 in Germany)

maldini
06-26-2007, 06:39 AM
So you're not from Switzerland in reality? I always assumed all swiss people are playing HT since the beginning of times. Switzerland even had more teams than Germany for a long time.

(My team is Sportfreunde Stexwig, VI.1011 in Germany)

of course i am:p

(my team is Casino St. Germain, in IX.100 in Switzerland..i started two weeks ago, and will just go down to league 10 i think :lol:)

Nathaliia
06-27-2007, 09:39 AM
I thought you may find it interesting as we have some banned accounts now: Karim_Vlasic, Playagirl, Myskina, Ellery, *~~*Pia*~~*.

That last one was not detected until yesterday so check if it's your doubles partner for next tournaments. And big time excuses to all that lost to it in Wimbledon :o:o:o

PS. Well done Milan Holmes again, you're on fire.

savesthedizzle
06-27-2007, 10:27 AM
Karim would still come back :lol:

It's not a faultless policy and we don't want to turn away the new (honest) players. We need to come up with a better solution then the 3 months and 100 posts.

It's too easy to get 100 posts. :lol: On WTA world I just spammed the MTF thread because after being a member there for YEARS ( :eek: ) I only had 80 posts and wanted to play doubles with Adam. I mean...If someone REALLY wants to cheat, they can join, wait, spam, and still cheat. Someone like Karim with THAT many user names would be more than willing to join, wait 3 months and post around a bit, spam in the counting threads, and still cheat. I think the only way really is to have people checking IPs, there are a lot of mods who play TT who would be able to check IPs I think. I would me more than happy to help ;)

How about a non refundable deposit of £100 for 2 years. If they are found not to be cheating after 2 years we will refund the money. If they are found to be cheats they lose the money :devil:

:rolls: Now this is a great idea :yeah: But the ££ wouldn't trickle down at all to us poor non-board members :awww: Unless we just give 50p to every noncheating TT player. :dance:



PS. Well done Milan Holmes again, you're on fire.

And again, I feel the need to :worship: Milan.

:hug:s all around to everyone who was negatively affected by these people with multiple accounts. :sad: It's sad what TT is coming to. Although in a way, this does make me feel a bit better about myself. I thought that I was beginning to care too much about TT, but since I haven't gone through the process of creating other identities, it seems that my sanity is still intact :D

Hopefully we will be able to find a good solution to this problem and to keep this game as fun and drama free as possible.

SloKid
06-27-2007, 10:38 AM
PS. Well done Milan Holmes again, you're on fire.
You are all very welcome. :lol:
It's great that I could help in getting rid of cheaters. :)

Snowwy
06-27-2007, 10:48 AM
You are all very welcome. :lol:
It's great that I could help in getting rid of cheaters. :)

:worship:

alansk
06-27-2007, 10:59 AM
Thanks for investigative work guys :yeah:

Keep the game pure! :D

Pixie
06-27-2007, 12:27 PM
According to SloKid, who is a mod also on WTAworld, Ellery out there is a guy and doesn't have an account on MTF.

He played on WTAworld with a username Pixie, and Pixie is a French guy from MTF, no idea if he has account over there, but it is just very sad overall.

Hi Nathii, been a long time :) Thx for trying to help me ;)

Actually I was already accused of multiple accounts by sharpeirob in a TT tournament that kinda surprised me...this present thread confirms there must be a WTAW user with the same name.

Don't know if there are suspicion on me but here is my useless thoughts :

1) I consider TT as a game and the simple idea of creating two accounts is just stupid to say the least

2) I consider TT as a game so if there is any problem I wouldn't bother quit it. I mean, the simple fact that I must justify myself about a cool and not-so-serious game is a bit sad, and kinda pathetic I might add.

invu2day
06-27-2007, 12:39 PM
2) I consider TT as a game so if there is any problem I wouldn't bother quit it. I mean, the simple fact that I must justify myself about a cool and not-so-serious game is a bit sad, and kinda pathetic I might add.

My thoughts exactly. The accused of of last week went way too far to protest their innocence in a virtual game after all. I mean who in there right mind would publish their ID details over the internet for everyone to see. When someone protests to loud they often have something to hide. If such accusations were laid on myself I would have done as you say, just dropped the game after all that's all it is A GAME.

Taz Warrior
06-27-2007, 07:59 PM
I thought you may find it interesting as we have some banned accounts now: Karim_Vlasic, Playagirl, Myskina, Ellery, *~~*Pia*~~*.

That last one was not detected until yesterday so check if it's your doubles partner for next tournaments. And big time excuses to all that lost to it in Wimbledon :o:o:o

PS. Well done Milan Holmes again, you're on fire.

Is Pia one of Karim's accounts as well? :eek:

meninosantos
06-27-2007, 08:16 PM
Is Pia one of Karim's accounts as well? :eek:

Now I know why TT has 300 players :eek:

SloKid
06-27-2007, 08:19 PM
Is Pia one of Karim's accounts as well? :eek:
I'm afraid so. :o

Nathaliia
06-27-2007, 08:22 PM
Now I know why TT has 300 players :eek:
:spit: :spit: :spit:

Do you people remember voting for best newcomer of the year in 2006? Imagine what would happen if all Karims voted for one Karim? :o

meninosantos
06-27-2007, 08:25 PM
:spit: :spit: :spit:

Do you people remember voting for best newcomer of the year in 2006? Imagine what would happen if all Karims voted for one Karim? :o

Yes :lol:

Maybe there are more...Let's bet...How many accounts he has?

Denaon
06-27-2007, 08:30 PM
I seem to be repeating myself. Any recognised form of ID for the 6 accounts will clear all. It's not a witch hunt. There is definetly something going on here with these accounts. It's upto them to identify themselves. If they don't then it's obvious what is happening.

My thoughts exactly. The accused of of last week went way too far to protest their innocence in a virtual game after all. I mean who in there right mind would publish their ID details over the internet for everyone to see. When someone protests to loud they often have something to hide. If such accusations were laid on myself I would have done as you say, just dropped the game after all that's all it is A GAME.

I don't care much about this issue really, I honestly don't...but I needed to remark this.

meninosantos
06-27-2007, 08:48 PM
I don't care much about this issue really, I honestly don't...but I needed to remark this.

What you remarked was:

"Any recognised form of ID for the 6 accounts will clear all."

We saw only 2

Denaon
06-27-2007, 08:49 PM
What you remarked was:

"Any recognised form of ID for the 6 accounts will clear all."

We saw only 2

No...no...
I should have remarked the "Any recognised form of ID" part...

alansk
06-27-2007, 10:07 PM
Good point Denaon.

So if, in future, I am accused of cheating and asked to show ID, I shouldn't show it? I should just leave TT without a fuss even though I love this game? :aplot:

meninosantos
06-27-2007, 10:15 PM
Good point Denaon.

So if, in future, I am accused of cheating and asked to show ID, I shouldn't show it? I should just leave TT without a fuss even though I love this game? :aplot:

Are you going to be accused my new TT friend ??:wavey:

ExcaliburII
06-27-2007, 10:19 PM
What's your one? :p

Pelado F.C.D

Actually I dont care about the team, since two seasons ago, Ill come back this season and go into V. :rocker2:

Denaon
06-27-2007, 10:21 PM
Let me put it this way:

First, to prove their innocence, the accused posters were encouraged to:

I seem to be repeating myself. Any recognised form of ID for the 6 accounts will clear all. It's not a witch hunt. There is definetly something going on here with these accounts. It's upto them to identify themselves. If they don't then it's obvious what is happening.

Then, after they've proved their identity by showing their IDs, their actions are criticized as:

My thoughts exactly. The accused of of last week went way too far to protest their innocence in a virtual game after all. I mean who in there right mind would publish their ID details over the internet for everyone to see. When someone protests to loud they often have something to hide. If such accusations were laid on myself I would have done as you say, just dropped the game after all that's all it is A GAME.

BY THE SAME PERSON!!!!!!!

get it? or am I the only one seeing it?

invu2day
06-27-2007, 11:25 PM
Let me put it this way:

First, to prove their innocence, the accused posters were encouraged to:



Then, after they've proved their identity by showing their IDs, their actions are criticized as:



BY THE SAME PERSON!!!!!!!

get it? or am I the only one seeing it?

I'll make myself clear shall I.

What I said initially as a member of the board was said in the context of the game and for game to be played in fairness to all others.

If it was me who had to show my personal ID on the internet they is no way I would do it at all. That is my personal opinion and not that of the board. When I'm speaking for the board i'm not spouting my personal opinions. Maybe you can see the difference between the 2, if not, nevermind it's only a game ;)

Plus no one was ever asked to display their ID thru any thread. They were asked to show it to any member of the board via pm. Their actions of displaying the ID open in a thread was a public cry for being treated unjust. He even accused me of lying in the DDL thread in spanish which I needed to get translated as I don't understand Spanish. Therefore I proved who the liar was and he hasn't been here again.

invu2day
06-27-2007, 11:41 PM
Good point Denaon.

So if, in future, I am accused of cheating and asked to show ID, I shouldn't show it? I should just leave TT without a fuss even though I love this game? :aplot:We already knew he was cheating. We just needed an avenue to catch him out. Not everycase would or will be treated the same way. Not every suspect will be asked for ID. It all depends on what we already know as a whole. Plus as I was speaking for the board I only let out some information at a time in an effort to trap him lying. That worked eventually regarding the grammer error in the picks sent. ;)


Plus Alan you will never be accused of cheating now that you have debited £100 into my paypal account :wavey:

ExcaliburII
06-27-2007, 11:45 PM
How many money do i have to pay to play with 2 accs?

Or how many friends do i have to have to play with 2 accs, without being accused by anyone?

keqtqiadv
06-27-2007, 11:46 PM
Plus Alan you will never be accused of cheating now that you have debited £100 into my paypal account :wavey:
:rolls:

invu2day
06-28-2007, 12:07 AM
How many money do i have to pay to play with 2 accs?

Or how many friends do i have to have to play with 2 accs, without being accused by anyone?We'll talk privileges once you've been No1 in the world ;)

ExcaliburII
06-28-2007, 12:54 AM
We'll talk privileges once you've been No1 in the world ;)

So, youve just confirmed my theory :haha:

I am just joking :p.

A_Skywalker
06-28-2007, 08:47 AM
How many money do i have to pay to play with 2 accs?

Or how many friends do i have to have to play with 2 accs, without being accused by anyone?

Just buy other computer or use ***** with the other account :lol:

EDIT: Why is ***** banned word?

scarecrows
06-28-2007, 08:50 AM
no idea but has been banned in along time

Nathaliia
06-28-2007, 08:55 AM
It was banned together with NATAS81.

alansk
06-28-2007, 09:06 AM
Are you going to be accused my new TT friend ??:wavey:

No I was just subtly encouraging Josh to clarify his position, which he promptly did, and very well I might add ;)


We already knew he was cheating. We just needed an avenue to catch him out. Not everycase would or will be treated the same way. Not every suspect will be asked for ID. It all depends on what we already know as a whole. Plus as I was speaking for the board I only let out some information at a time in an effort to trap him lying. That worked eventually regarding the grammer error in the picks sent. ;)


Yeah I thought it was a trap, but it's good to clear the air and so forth :D



Plus Alan you will never be accused of cheating now that you have debited £100 into my paypal account :wavey:

:lol: Glad I paid to the correct account. Now where's Gav's...


We'll talk privileges once you've been No1 in the world ;)

:lol:

Pixie
06-28-2007, 09:26 AM
OK I've read the entire thread and can understand your thoughts. You just can't know if I'm lying or not as there is precedent. TT has become too much serious IMO but you never asked to deal with cheaters, so you're doing what is needed. So if you need anything please PM me, I'd be glad to make it come to an end.

I have to go now, see you :wavey:

Nathaliia
06-28-2007, 09:29 AM
Pixie, we know that you are Pixie and nobody else (well, if not to count *julie* - evidences in Monfils chat thread, all the same interests :p), it was somebody else who used your personality on another forum, which was very rude, just like Ellery's from WTA personality was used here.
Unacceptable, and now banned.

savesthedizzle
06-28-2007, 12:53 PM
OK I've read the entire thread and can understand your thoughts. You just can't know if I'm lying or not as there is precedent. TT has become too much serious IMO but you never asked to deal with cheaters, so you're doing what is needed. So if you need anything please PM me, I'd be glad to make it come to an end.

I have to go now, see you :wavey:

I don't think anyone actually suspects you, it seems clear that for some reason, your identity was stolen there. :hug:

FiBeR
07-01-2007, 07:55 PM
i don't know if anyone here is also in hattrick
hattrick

:bounce: fiber is my team! and raulfiber is my user name! care for a friendly match ;)

whats your team? :p

do u do hattrick :eek:

What's your one? :p

:rocker2: we should do like a tourney with us 4.. :p after cup is over, of course :o

maldini
07-01-2007, 10:02 PM
:bounce: fiber is my team! and raulfiber is my user name! care for a friendly match ;)



do u do hattrick :eek:



:rocker2: we should do like a tourney with us 4.. :p after cup is over, of course :o

i'd be in too :p
i think we should open a hattrick-thread in non-tennis:p

Bolar Bolabi
07-03-2007, 04:46 AM
:haha: who the fuck would be stupid enough to cheat.

FiBeR
07-05-2007, 03:35 AM
*~~*Pia*~~*

:eek:


Pia = Karin as well? :scared:

omg.. i didnt see that one until now!

El Legenda
07-12-2007, 04:59 AM
to clear something up before it gets out of control,
IvanLjubicic and I have a same IP address during the summers :lol: since im home for summers and at school rest of the year.
any mod can confirm that we are not the same person :rolls: :yeah:

:wavey:

Smasher
07-12-2007, 07:19 PM
:haha: who the fuck would be stupid enough to cheat.
This coming from a cycling fan? :p

j/k Bolar ;)

Taz Warrior
07-13-2007, 10:32 PM
Look who's turned up on WTA :rolleyes:

http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=307694&page=2

El Legenda
07-15-2007, 06:22 PM
I also play under the name adee-gee :)

meninosantos
07-15-2007, 06:32 PM
Look who's turned up on WTA :rolleyes:

http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=307694&page=2

You're talking about Diego?

Or who?

Taz Warrior
07-15-2007, 07:15 PM
[quote=meninosantos;5683927]You're talking about Diego?
[quote]
Yes :)

meninosantos
07-15-2007, 10:08 PM
[quote=meninosantos;5683927]You're talking about Diego?
[quote]
Yes :)

I saw that :rolleyes:

DeccyB123
08-28-2007, 12:48 PM
haha this is quite interesting i never thought it would come to this... wat a game! :lol:

GustavoM_Fan
09-08-2007, 05:26 AM
Notice to all Managers:

Following players are currently serving a ban or permanent Ban. Hence they are not allowed to play TENNIS TIPPING:

Locoxcanas banned from TT until end of 2008 season
Diego36arg banned from TT until end of 2008 season


end of 2007 season will be a best choice in my opinion...

I thought about this
and finally concluded that 2 years is too much time for them.... remember they played TT not many time; they cheated, but I thought it was a beginner error... they are sorry for this :)

If another user do multi-accounts again the ban should be strict..

what do you think?

A_Skywalker
09-08-2007, 10:32 AM
Yes, end of 2007 is enough, 2 years for internet game is too much. There are atp players with less than 2 years. If someone makes the mistake again then ban for 3 years.

scarecrows
09-08-2007, 10:34 AM
free Karim Vlasic :D

Taz Warrior
09-08-2007, 12:05 PM
The rules were clear before they cheated that this would not be tolerated.
The penalties are harsh to deter people from doing it.

GustavoM_Fan
09-09-2007, 12:30 AM
any chance for doing a poll for this?