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Who will win Berdych or Nadal?

Rafa = Fed Killa
04-20-2007, 06:35 PM
Lets hear your predictions.

marcRD
04-20-2007, 06:42 PM
Nadal in 3, althought I will bet 200 dollars on Berdych. He has way better chanse than 10 to 1.

RonE
04-20-2007, 06:45 PM
Nadal in 3 sets but it won't be easy.

Rafa = Fed Killa
04-20-2007, 06:46 PM
Nadal in 3, althought I will bet 200 dollars on Berdych. He has way better chanse than 10 to 1.

10 to 1 is a bit insulting. I would probably give him 3 to 1 odds.

Or Levy
04-20-2007, 06:49 PM
Nadal in two difficult sets.

marcRD
04-20-2007, 06:49 PM
10 to 1 is a bit insulting. I would probably give him 3 to 1 odds.

I would five him 2 to 5 odds. Excellent oppurtunity to me to cash in my betfair acount. I will still need alot of luck. Berdych needs to be really ON and not start brainfarting anytime durin the match. Soderling match really worried me.

Rafa = Fed Killa
04-20-2007, 06:51 PM
I would five him 2 to 5 odds. Excellent oppurtunity to me to cash in my betfair acount. I will still need alot of luck. Berdych needs to be really ON and not start brainfarting anytime durin the match. Soderling match really worried me.

I wouldn't take the risk as I don't see Nadal losing unless Berdych plays beyond his best and Nadal is off.

RonE
04-20-2007, 06:53 PM
I would five him 2 to 5 odds. Excellent oppurtunity to me to cash in my betfair acount. I will still need alot of luck. Berdych needs to be really ON and not start brainfarting anytime durin the match. Soderling match really worried me.

The one thing that could work in your favour here is the history between the two players and the dislike Berdych has for Nadal. There might be a chance that this will not allow him to make another slow start and he will be more focused.

But Berdych being Berdych you never quite know on what side of the bed he will wake up in the morning :shrug:

shotgun
04-20-2007, 06:54 PM
The progression of the head-to-head suggests that Berdych should win this match by a "6-3 6-3"-like scoreline. :lol:

2005 Bastad
Sweden Clay F Nadal 2-6 6-2 6-4
Stats

2005 ATP Masters Series Cincinnati
Ohio, USA Hard R64 Berdych 6-7(4) 6-2 7-6(3)
Stats

2006 ATP Masters Series Canada
Toronto, Canada Hard R16 Berdych 6-1 3-6 6-2
Stats

2006 ATP Masters Series Madrid
Spain Hard Q Berdych 6-3 7-6(6)
Stats

Seriously, I would back Berdych over Nadal on any surface other than clay. But especially at Monte Carlo, where the court doesn't play very fast, I don't see Berdych with good chances at all, unless the psychological edge is too big. Nadal's been playing very well and it's already been a good tournament for Berdych, considering how he arrived in Monte Carlo.

Just hope to see some needle out there, as I do enjoy tennis rivalries. :D

Kitty de Sade
04-20-2007, 06:54 PM
I'm pleading the fifth on this one for karmic purposes. Almost every prediction I make reverses itself in a bad way. I'm like kryptonite in human form. :tape:

Pulling for Rafa though, no question.

kobulingam
04-20-2007, 06:57 PM
Reliable weather report please?

Hot and dry, and I give Birdman 40% chance.
Otherwise, 10% chance.

mashamaniac
04-20-2007, 06:59 PM
rafa in straight sets...

Exodus
04-20-2007, 07:01 PM
if berdych plays well he has too much raw power for nadal to handle...

kobulingam
04-20-2007, 07:13 PM
if berdych plays well he has too much raw power for nadal to handle...

On clay?

Even on hardcourts they play close matches, so on clay at the very least it's even.

TMJordan
04-20-2007, 07:16 PM
Berdych, 3 sets.

RickDaStick
04-20-2007, 07:18 PM
Berdych in 3 and then when they shake hands and Rafa tries to call Berdych a very bad person, the birdman will beat Rafa again, this time with a racquet upside rafas abnormal head.

Fumus
04-20-2007, 07:20 PM
I remind you Roddick def. Berdych on clay.

Allez
04-20-2007, 07:24 PM
A walk in the park for Nadal. Sets the record straight in 2 easy sets.

LilyRoseAva
04-20-2007, 07:24 PM
berdych in 3 i hope
cmon

Bilbo
04-20-2007, 07:24 PM
Nadal in 2

Adler
04-20-2007, 07:27 PM
Hot and dry, and I give Birdman 40% chance.
Otherwise, 10% chance.
I agree, but with 33% as the first number

yana
04-20-2007, 07:36 PM
You'll see tomorrow. Patience.
But I bet that more Fedfans will rather watch this match than Fed's :D

gogogirl
04-20-2007, 07:51 PM
All,

I think Rafa will probably win because of his talent on clay. Yet - if Berdy continues to play aggressively and takes the ball early - then he has a good chance.

We shall see. May the best players on the day win.

rofe
04-20-2007, 08:00 PM
I remind you Roddick def. Berdych on clay.

Different match up so has no bearing on this match.

Nadal in 3.

*Ljubica*
04-20-2007, 08:01 PM
My head says Nadal, but my heart will be with Berdych :) Sadly I think I will be disappointed.

Allez
04-20-2007, 08:02 PM
My head says Nadal, but my heart will be with Berdych :) Sadly I think I will be disappointed.

Ditto :sad:

kobulingam
04-20-2007, 08:03 PM
http://uk.weather.yahoo.com/MNXX/MNXX0001/index_c.html

Sat

Sunny
High 21
Low 14


Key indicator humidity is missing.
(Also hard to predict).

Loremaster
04-20-2007, 08:16 PM
Cool enough Nadal is playing like man possesed right now he is ideal clay court player Berdych well Berdych is fun to watch like "Baby Safin" huge game great talent but tottally crappy mind , at least there woould be fire between them but what is more important Rafa will be as determined to show Berdych who is the boss and punish him for Madrid , and what a better place to do that than MC slow clay, Rafa in two sets with one-two breaks in each
6-4 6-2

Metis
04-20-2007, 08:25 PM
http://uk.weather.yahoo.com/MNXX/MNXX0001/index_c.html

Sat

Sunny
High 21
Low 14


Key indicator humidity is missing.
(Also hard to predict).

According to weather.com it will be about 65% when they will be on court. So not that humid after all.

AnnaK_4ever
04-20-2007, 08:32 PM
It's now or never for Rafa :unsure:

kobulingam
04-20-2007, 08:38 PM
According to weather.com it will be about 65% when they will be on court. So not that humid after all.

Birdman praying for high temp and low humidity.
He'll be sacrificing some raquets to the Sun god tonight.

NYCtennisfan
04-20-2007, 08:42 PM
Nadal in 2: 6-4 6-3

Berdman is goinv to have to bring his best to make t a contest and I don't think he will.

Deivid23
04-20-2007, 08:53 PM
Nadal in 2

jazar
04-20-2007, 08:54 PM
rafa, but berdman will run him reasonably close.

Loremaster
04-20-2007, 08:58 PM
Berdych in 3 and then when they shake hands and Rafa tries to call Berdych a very bad person, the birdman will beat Rafa again, this time with a racquet upside rafas abnormal head.

as possbile as Ljubojoke appearing with long dark hair in Rome , or as possible as Ljubojoke noot whinning after losing in Rome and falling out of top10 after RG

tcorinna
04-20-2007, 09:02 PM
I've voted Berdych in 3 ... but I know it is going to be very hard for him to win this one ... Nadal has something to prove against Berdych and where better but on clay ... So ... hopping for berdych in 3 but expecting Nadal in 2 :D

Clara Bow
04-20-2007, 09:11 PM
I am really hoping that Rafa pulls this out- but I am very nervous. I was glad that his serve was a bit better today, because he will need it against a player who has beaten him whenever they have played on hard and pushed him on clay two years ago.

I think a win against Tomas will be very good for Rafa- I just hope he can do it! :)

t0x
04-20-2007, 09:22 PM
Birdman has the potential...

But he's sucked so far this year TBH, he needs to be at his very best to bring down Rafa and I don't think he will be. He'll still run him close though!

tangerine_dream
04-20-2007, 09:29 PM
Hopefully Rafa in straights. Vamos, Piggy. :banana:

TomasandLucie
04-20-2007, 09:33 PM
I am really looking forward to this game
I is a great modern day rivalry

I hope berdych wins, but if he dosent i know he has lost to the best player on clay

Metis
04-20-2007, 09:39 PM
I am really hoping that Rafa pulls this out- but I am very nervous. I was glad that his serve was a bit better today, because he will need it against a player who has beaten him whenever they have played on hard and pushed him on clay two years ago.

I think a win against Tomas will be very good for Rafa- I just hope he can do it! :)

Me too :unsure:. Although today he won 77% and 75% of his first and second serves respectively, his serve is very ...attackable by a guy like Berdych. Somehow it seems that Berdych finds his best form against Rafa, only to collapse in his following match :lol:.

Naranoc
04-20-2007, 09:41 PM
MTF trolls will be the winners :D

mylessa
04-20-2007, 10:58 PM
I just don't see Berdych winning this one. In fact, I don't see anyone beat Nadal on clay at the moment. But, two of them are very interesting. Who knows what can happen.

Prediction - Nadal in 2 :D

richie21
04-20-2007, 11:07 PM
Nafal in 2 easy sets.
Actually,a lot of players can beat Nadal on hardcourt(and Berdych is one of them,like Blake,Malisse,Djokovic or Youznhy) but on clay,that's a whole different story.

Veronique
04-20-2007, 11:18 PM
Rafa MUSTwin this one. No other ways about it. You've just got to, man!

ChinoRios4Ever
04-20-2007, 11:29 PM
rafa this time :yeah:

MaryWalsh
04-20-2007, 11:56 PM
Rafa in 2.

scoobs
04-21-2007, 12:07 AM
This will be entertaining because, while everyone is focused on Rafa getting pumped up for some revenge, you also think Berdych's in the mood for another crack at Rafa and snapping that win streak - and he'll be feeling reasonably confident and not too afraid of Rafa, unlike a lot of his opponents. If Berdych can connect on the return and get Rafa rushed on his second shot then Rafa could be in a lot of trouble - otherwise Rafa will have way too much. I think Rafa in 2 anyway.

Kitty de Sade
04-21-2007, 12:20 AM
This will be entertaining because, while everyone is focused on Rafa getting pumped up for some revenge, you also think Berdych's in the mood for another crack at Rafa and snapping that win streak - and he'll be feeling reasonably confident and not too afraid of Rafa, unlike a lot of his opponents. If Berdych can connect on the return and get Rafa rushed on his second shot then Rafa could be in a lot of trouble - otherwise Rafa will have way too much. I think Rafa in 2 anyway.

Pretty big motivator right there, although I hope it doesn't go that way. ;)

connectolove
04-21-2007, 12:28 AM
It would really bother me if Berdych wins...all is possible!

Roger The Great
04-21-2007, 12:31 AM
Berdych should still be a bad match-up for Raf here. That being said, I think Nadal will pull this off and give us our first Fed-Rafa final of the year. I picked Nadal in straights but I think it could just as likely go three.

Forehander
04-21-2007, 12:40 AM
I dunno... Nadal seems to be playing incredible tennis atm. He's improved again and again on this surface. He looks as if there's like flames around him when he walks on the clay surface, he's just so good. I think there'll be much higher chance that it's gonna be a straight set win for Nadal. But lets pray berdych will put up a good fight because I like him alot as he's also one of those players will tons of potential. Good luck Tomas!

Merton
04-21-2007, 12:43 AM
Nadal in 3 after at least 8 breaks of serve. Vamos Tomas.

Sunset of Age
04-21-2007, 12:46 AM
Raf, easily. I just hope it'll be an entertaining match, i.e. Birdman gives him a bit of work, just like Philip did today.

moon language
04-21-2007, 12:56 AM
Does anyone know why Berdych doesn't like Nadal?

Even prior to the circus at Madrid it seemed he had some kind of dislike for him when they played in Toronto last summer. There must be some reason for it, or is it just a clash of personalities?

leng jai
04-21-2007, 01:08 AM
If Berdman wins, MTF wins.

Metis
04-21-2007, 01:11 AM
Raf, easily. I just hope it'll be an entertaining match, i.e. Birdman gives him a bit of work, just like Philip did today.

If Tomas gives him a bit of work just like Philip did I'll be very happy :lol:.

Seriously though, I can't wait for this match and jugding from all the "He didn't say hello" and "Berdych is stupid" threads, MTF is going to be a riot tomorrow :boxing:. People are going to be praying to the tennis gods all night, voodoo dolls have been prepared, even RonE is running to the store to get the necessary supplies for an off-season BBQ. :lol:

connectolove
04-21-2007, 01:11 AM
Does anyone know why Berdych doesn't like Nadal?

Even prior to the circus at Madrid it seemed he had some kind of dislike for him when they played in Toronto last summer. There must be some reason for it, or is it just a clash of personalities?

Clash of personalities. Nadal doesn't like Berdych's cockiness when Berdych wins.

CyBorg
04-21-2007, 01:14 AM
I think Berdych will be terrible. Just a feeling.

But I hope the match entertains!

rafagirlno1
04-21-2007, 01:18 AM
this will be unbelieveable and i hope rafa get's his revenge over here on his favorite surface against berdych...
i hope rafa pulls it out and wins this !!!!(maybe three sets ):)

moon language
04-21-2007, 01:26 AM
Clash of personalities. Nadal doesn't like Berdych's cockiness when Berdych wins.

Well, what I meant was that Berdych seemed to already dislike Nadal when they played in Toronto last summer. I didn't get the impression Nadal had a particular dislike for Berdych at that point though. Maybe Berdych is jealous that someone he can beat has so much more success than him?

Scotso
04-21-2007, 03:33 AM
I think Nadal will win, but I'm hoping Tomas will prove me wrong :D

Snowwy
04-21-2007, 03:37 AM
Nadal in straights.

Jaffas85
04-21-2007, 06:37 AM
Should Berdych beat Nadal then Federer will win Monte Carlo.

W!MBLEDON
04-21-2007, 06:43 AM
Nadal in three.

Sean.J.S.
04-21-2007, 06:52 AM
Berdych 3-6 7-6(5) 6-1. :devil:

R.Federer
04-21-2007, 06:56 AM
I just hope there is some non handshake at the end, or some grimacing or Shhhing or something. I don't think Tomas is going to win this match because Nadal has found his groove again, but I hope they can push it to 3.

mickymouse
04-21-2007, 07:05 AM
If Berdych couldn't beat Roddick on clay at home, I'm guessing he wouldn't be able to do it against Nadal.

Kolya
04-21-2007, 07:05 AM
Nadal - he is not scared on Berdych especially on clay.

Medina
04-21-2007, 08:47 AM
Berdych in 3

anon57
04-21-2007, 09:30 AM
I hope Berdych gives us a good match but judging from their previous matches thus week. I've really got to go with Nadal. Hopefully Berdych at least puts up a good fight.

Action Jackson
04-21-2007, 09:42 AM
Nadal - he is not scared on Berdych especially on clay.

Obviously you didn't see the Bĺstad match then when they played.

Action Jackson
04-21-2007, 09:44 AM
The winners will be the Fed fans who will worship Berdych if he takes out Nadal.

The Rafatards will still deny that Berdych is a bad match up for him, even if he loses, though he isn't likely to.

Tennis will be the winner.

W!MBLEDON
04-21-2007, 09:45 AM
This match starts in 4 hours and 45 minutes at the minimum.

Mateya
04-21-2007, 10:09 AM
Rafa will win of course, 7-6(4) 6-2 :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Bilbo
04-21-2007, 10:21 AM
Nadal will rip this overhyped Berdych a new one

Jogy
04-21-2007, 10:45 AM
Nadal to smack this overhyped ass hard away!

yomike
04-21-2007, 11:59 AM
I don't think anyone in his right mind can pick against Nadal on this surface. If this was any other surface then clearly Berdych would be the favorite. But on clay Nadal is an overwhelming favorite against anyone. Nadal in two easy sets

W!MBLEDON
04-21-2007, 03:08 PM
BERDY 0
NADAL 5 *

:spit:

Billabong
04-21-2007, 03:12 PM
Bagel:eek:
Nadal is simply invincible on clay, that's unbelievable:tape:

Langers
04-21-2007, 03:15 PM
Bagel:eek:
Nadal is simply invincible on clay, that's unbelievable:tape:
Agreed, he is just a freak on clay.

RonE
04-21-2007, 03:21 PM
Yep if even Rafa's ultimate bogeyman gets bagelled by him on the clay then there is just no stpping him on this surface. He is just too good for everyone :shrug: