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Federer don't trust in his game anymore...

D Optimist
04-19-2007, 07:18 AM
When Federer played againts Seppi I saw in his eyes incertitude,fear that's mean he don't trust in his game anymore.
Is better for him to take a big holiday till Wimbledon because he have nothing to lose - is too tied and stressfull after a long domination.
We'll see today againts Lee if I was wrong or not...
How did you comment ?

Allez
04-19-2007, 07:23 AM
How do you know what you saw in his eyes was fear ? How can you tell ? That said, he was bad against Seppi, but then it is almost always like that with him in the first couple of rounds. By the quarters (if he gets there) we'll have a better idea of where his game is. Also he has lots of points to defend. He reached the finals of all the clay tournaments he played in last year, so this ain't no vacation time for him.

leng jai
04-19-2007, 07:26 AM
When I looked into your post I saw retardation.

Action Jackson
04-19-2007, 07:27 AM
THIS THREAD SUCKS BECAUSE: (Place X where applies)

[_] This topic did not need a separate thread
[X_] It speculates Federer's career is in trouble after a bad performance in which he won.
[_] Fake account
[_] It asks when and/or will Nadal become #1 in the world
[_] It is a Nadal v Federer thread where making sense is prohibited
[_] It assumes Federer will forever be on top of the tennis world
[_] It is a lame ass troll attempt
[_] It is a “Threaten to leave” thread
[_] It was started by Rafa=FedKilla
[_] It over hypes players that don’t deserve it
[_] It contains the Croatian contingent in a argument either among themselves or with others
[_] It was started by JustCause
[_] Original Posters grammar makes me suspect the post was written by 4 year old
[_] It claims Player X career is over after 1 bad loss
[_] It tries to determine the best player ever (on any surface) for the 200th time
[_] It asks when or if a young player will ever reach their potential after a totally expected loss
[_] It is a serious discussion of a exhibition match
[_] It proclaims a 16-18 year olds career is finished after a couple of first round losses
[_] It has the word Gilbert in the subject line
[_] It discusses doubles when its not a Davis Cup weekend
[_] It is a serious discussion of a clay clowns chances at a clay event or in a individual match against a competent clay player
[_] It is the annual thread where people bitch about clay courters not showing up and embarrassing themselves on grass
[_] LOL Jerry Seinfeld
[_] To much sex talk in this thread
[_] It speculates whether player X is on dope without any evidence
[_] It asks/assumes Safin is finished in tennis after a totally expected few first round loss to the local baker in the first round of small tournament X
[_] Use the damn search engine
[_] It accuses the loser of choking when he did nothing of the sort
[_] It talks about fake injuries and/or fake injury time outs
[_] Cramp is called a injury
[_] BROKEN CAPS LOCK
[_] It claims females can be competitive with males in any form of tennis
[_] Wrong forum, douche

D Optimist
04-19-2007, 07:37 AM
When I looked into your post I saw retardation.

Be patient guy.

jazar
04-19-2007, 07:49 AM
When I looked into your post I saw retardation.

fine point :worship:

Bobby
04-19-2007, 08:21 AM
When Federer played againts Seppi I saw in his eyes incertitude,fear that's mean he don't trust in his game anymore.
Is better for him to take a big holiday till Wimbledon because he have nothing to lose - is too tied and stressfull after a long domination.
We'll see today againts Lee if I was wrong or not...
How did you comment ?

I'm quite sure you are wrong, but okay, let's wait for the Lee match.
Fed probably was not feeling comfortable playing Seppi, but I really don't think he was afraid.

I just don't understand threads like this. It's probably only a matter of time when somebody (maybe you) starts a thread titled "Fed was wearing a red shirt and white socks, his career is over".

Dougie
04-19-2007, 08:22 AM
How do you know what you saw in his eyes was fear ? How can you tell ? That said, he was bad against Seppi, but then it is almost always like that with him in the first couple of rounds. By the quarters (if he gets there) we'll have a better idea of where his game is. Also he has lots of points to defend. He reached the finals of all the clay tournaments he played in last year, so this ain't no vacation time for him.

Good post. Fed will improve in the later rounds, he always does. Besides, his condition/downhill/collapse has been discussed so many times here already. It´s way too early to say he is in any kind of decline, he´s only human. And it certainly is no time for a vacation, there´s a tournament called French Open coming up pretty soon.

bokehlicious
04-19-2007, 08:23 AM
When I looked into your post I saw retardation.

Most of the users with that ugly Andre avi tend to be hugely retarded... :scratch: :shrug:

leng jai
04-19-2007, 08:27 AM
The people dignifying this thread with serious comments sadden me.

tennis2tennis
04-19-2007, 08:28 AM
roger is the only guy in the history of tennis not allowed to have the odd bad game here or there

kobulingam
04-19-2007, 08:50 AM
When I looked into your post I saw retardation.


Haha you just made someone your bitch forever. Pwned equals that guy.

Horatio Caine
04-19-2007, 09:47 AM
I'm just going to copy and paste this into every retarded Federer-related thread from now on...

I really thought I was mentally ready for the crappy Federer clay-related threads. :help: I guess not... :bolt:

rafagirlno1
04-19-2007, 09:56 AM
:banana: :banana:fed won the first round on clay in straight sets ,and we already hve an excuse thread .. cant wait for these two months ahead :banana: :banana:

Eden
04-19-2007, 09:57 AM
When Federer played againts Seppi I saw in his eyes incertitude,fear that's mean he don't trust in his game anymore.
Is better for him to take a big holiday till Wimbledon because he have nothing to lose - is too tied and stressfull after a long domination.
We'll see today againts Lee if I was wrong or not...
How did you comment ?

I only have one question: Who are you? RFK? Sondra? JustCause?
Come on, don't be shy and reveal your true identity.

Loremaster
04-19-2007, 10:18 AM
I don't think so it was hard match for him but he made it in two sets considering that he always has tough first rounds and that it was his first match on clay since RG it isn't shocking I just wait how he will play in QF(Ferrer or Djokovic) and SF(Ferrero, Gasqeut etc) to have opnion how well mentally Roger is prepared to clay season and how good he plays. Anyway Nadal is huge favourite to reach final and it would be ultimate test for Federer if both makes final of course which is much harder in Roger's case

bokehlicious
04-19-2007, 10:41 AM
:banana: :banana:fed won the first round on clay in straight sets ,and we already hve an excuse thread .. cant wait for these two months ahead :banana: :banana:

You do the banana dance 2 months a year, and we dance the 10 remaining months :cool: :wavey:

Loremaster
04-19-2007, 10:51 AM
You do the banana dance 2 months a year, and we dance the 10 remaining months :cool: :wavey:

Yeah sure especially after Miami and IW , hehe if Roger loses soem more matches on clay I think all those dreams about Grand Slam and winning RG will vanish

Fed-Express
04-19-2007, 10:51 AM
When I looked into your post I saw retardation.

Too funny :haha:

bokehlicious
04-19-2007, 10:55 AM
Yeah sure especially after Miami and IW , hehe if Roger loses soem more matches on clay I think all those dreams about Grand Slam and winning RG will vanish

We're dancing for three years dude ;) even if we don't dance anymore anytime soon no big deal, most of you won't dance in their entire life :shrug: ...

Loremaster
04-19-2007, 10:58 AM
We're dancing for three years dude ;) even if we don't dance anymore anytime soon no big deal, most of you won't dance in their entire life :shrug: ...

yeah sure Dude :) Rafa looks stroneger than ever on clay :wavey: I just hope Fed makes it to final to get his ass pretty ahrd kicked

bokehlicious
04-19-2007, 11:04 AM
yeah sure Dude :) Rafa looks stroneger than ever on clay :wavey: I just hope Fed makes it to final to get his ass pretty ahrd kicked

That's the difference between us :) I'm thrilled when my fave wins (and don't give a crap when others lose :shrug: ), and you're thrilled when the guy you hate loses (and I guess you don't even care when your faves actually win)...

Pathetic loser mind...

Loremaster
04-19-2007, 11:08 AM
That's the difference between us :) I'm thrilled when my fave wins (and don't give a crap when others lose :shrug: ), and you're thrilled when the guy you hate loses (and I guess you don't even care when your faves actually win)...

Pathetic loser mind...

So you can read my mind now
Yeah Cool

Maybe I am thrilled when my fav wins and even more thirlled when my favourite wins with player I don't like
Haven't you thought about such possibility :angel:

leng jai
04-19-2007, 11:11 AM
Haas will shut you both up at RG.

bokehlicious
04-19-2007, 11:15 AM
So you can read my mind now
Yeah Cool

Maybe I am thrilled when my fav wins and even more thirlled when my favourite wins with player I don't like
Haven't you thought about such possibility :angel:

:lol: who do you think you fool ? :shrug:

Rafa = Fed Killa
04-19-2007, 11:16 AM
who do you think you fool ?

Go make love to your Mirka poster or Fed poster. Don't know which team you play for.

Loremaster
04-19-2007, 11:16 AM
:lol: who do you think you fool ? :shrug:

Who do you fool You would be jumping form joy for 24hours a day for 2 years if Roger beats Rafa on clay

nobama
04-19-2007, 11:35 AM
Gee, another Fed thread started in GM by a non "tard".

Rafa = Fed Killa
04-19-2007, 11:37 AM
Gee, another Fed thread started in GM by a non "tard".

Mirka truly is as large as any land I have ever seen.

Photoshop that whale. :D

Loremaster
04-19-2007, 11:40 AM
Mirka truly is as large as any land I have ever seen.

Photoshop that whale. :D

good one
:haha: :haha: :worship: :worship:

bokehlicious
04-19-2007, 11:41 AM
Mirka truly is as large as any land I have ever seen.


Your brain is truly as thin as the Vatican, so what ? :shrug:

Rafa = Fed Killa
04-19-2007, 11:44 AM
good one

Thank You.

I know there are still some intelligent people left on MTF.
Thank God, everyone isn't a Fedtard or Llubohotard.

Your brain is truly as thin as the Vatican, so what ?

Having fun with your Fed poster?

Loremaster
04-19-2007, 11:56 AM
Your brain is truly as thin as the Vatican, so what ? :shrug:

still brain as the Vatican is bigger than all Roger lovers and LjuboJoke tards brains together

Black Adam
04-19-2007, 07:37 PM
Mirka truly is as large as any land I have ever seen.

Photoshop that whale. :D
Fed is hungry when it comes to tennis trophies and acheivements.
Unfortunately he is settling for far too little in the girlfriend department.

bokehlicious
04-19-2007, 07:41 PM
Unfortunately he is settling for far too little in the girlfriend department.

He's aware being ugly himself so I guess he thinks Mirka's just fine for him :shrug:

:retard:

Kitty de Sade
04-19-2007, 07:43 PM
Certain thread starters have a writing style that makes me feel like I'm tripping, minus any and all of the fun. ;)

Black Adam
04-19-2007, 07:46 PM
He's aware being ugly himself so I guess he thinks Mirka's just fine for him :shrug:

:retard:
Fine with me.













But even a guy with mugface plus a nose that makes Pinochio an amateur can do better :haha:

P.S. To reply to the question of the thread, Fed is obssessed too much by beating Nadal and winning FO that he overlooks all the other claycourters. This is going to harm him when he runs into a hardcore claycourter besides Rafa.

D Optimist
04-19-2007, 08:23 PM
I only have one question: Who are you? RFK? Sondra? JustCause?
Come on, don't be shy and reveal your true identity.

I'm the TG (TruthGuy).Maybe you can't see the truth- Federer is in a decline period of time. I'm just a fan Federer not a fanATIC. That's why you can't see the truth...

Eden
04-19-2007, 09:08 PM
I'm the TG (TruthGuy).Maybe you can't see the truth- Federer is in a decline period of time. I'm just a fan Federer not a fanATIC. That's why you can't see the truth...

Which truth? That Roger wouldn't be able to keep up what he has done in the last years, especially the last one when he reached nearly all finals of the tournaments he entered?

I can't judge whether you are a Federer fan or not, but when you are you have probably followed his career for a longer time and shouldn't feel the need to worry about him.

r2473
04-19-2007, 09:10 PM
When Federer played againts Seppi I saw in his eyes incertitude,fear that's mean he don't trust in his game anymore.
Is better for him to take a big holiday till Wimbledon because he have nothing to lose - is too tied and stressfull after a long domination.
We'll see today againts Lee if I was wrong or not...
How did you comment ?


I'm the TG (TruthGuy).Maybe you can't see the truth- Federer is in a decline period of time. I'm just a fan Federer not a fanATIC. That's why you can't see the truth...


This guy is good. Really good.

IFoughtThe
04-19-2007, 09:19 PM
I think Roger probably knows what he's doing.

Kitty de Sade
04-19-2007, 09:40 PM
You betcha, Fed's in decline. Six out of the last seven GS won, grand total of 2 losses since last year, number one by a large margin for more than three years, etc, etc, etc.

He's a grade A slacker if I've ever seen one. With those stats, it's a wonder why the ATP lets him play at all! :p

Sunset of Age
04-19-2007, 10:06 PM
You betcha, Fed's in decline. Six out of the last seven GS won, grand total of 2 losses since last year, number one by a large margin for more than three years, etc, etc, etc.

He's a grade A slacker if I've ever seen one. With those stats, it's a wonder why the ATP lets him play at all! :p

:haha:

Good one Kelli.

Give the guy a break, people. He's only human - and sometimes, humans even lose a tennis match.

marcRD
04-19-2007, 10:15 PM
Federer is just not good enought right now, but Federer will just play better and better the more matches he will play on clay. He should really play Hamburg this year, I would like him to play Nadal atleast twice before RG and try alot of things in these 2 matches like attacking all Nadals 2nd serves and playing serve volley.

Kitty de Sade
04-19-2007, 10:16 PM
:haha:

Good one Kelli.

Give the guy a break, people. He's only human - and sometimes, humans even lose a tennis match.

Thank you Karin, I'll be here all week...:hatoff:

Honestly, I try not to get involved in arguments that make as much sense as a one legged man trying to win a butt kicking contest, but seriously- what would Federer have to do to silence some of his harshest critics?

He could heal the sick, cure the blind, walk on water, etc...and it still wouldn't matter to some people. :lol:

Eden
04-19-2007, 10:20 PM
Honestly, I try not to get involved in arguments that make as much sense as a one legged man trying to win a butt kicking contest, but seriously- what would Federer have to do to silence some of his harshest critics?

He could heal the sick, cure the blind, walk on water, etc...and it still wouldn't matter to some people. :lol:

:worship:

Unfortunately I can't good rep you for your comment :o

Kitty de Sade
04-19-2007, 10:22 PM
:worship:

Unfortunately I can't good rep you for your comment :o

Thank you Eden, it's all measured by intent. Molti baci...:smooch:

Sunset of Age
04-19-2007, 10:24 PM
Thank you Karin, I'll be here all week...:hatoff:

Me too. In good spirit till Monday, I hope.

Honestly, I try not to get involved in arguments that make as much sense as a one legged man trying to win a butt kicking contest, but seriously- what would Federer have to do to silence some of his harshest critics?

He could heal the sick, cure the blind, walk on water, etc...and it still wouldn't matter to some people. :lol:

So true ~sigh~ it's obvious the bloke can't do anything right for some. Even while everyone should by now know that this surface is NOT his favourite, they're still waiting for him to lose more than anything :rolleyes:.

They'll have their bit of fun coming Sunday again, I guess - Raf hasn't lost a match on clay for over two years now (:eek: !) and with him being in top form as he apparently is, I surely don't expect him to do so these coming matches.

rofe
04-19-2007, 10:47 PM
Federer is just not good enought right now, but Federer will just play better and better the more matches he will play on clay. He should really play Hamburg this year, I would like him to play Nadal atleast twice before RG and try alot of things in these 2 matches like attacking all Nadals 2nd serves and playing serve volley.

He will play Hamburg unless he wins MC and Rome (and that won't happen).

Roger The Great
04-19-2007, 10:58 PM
:banana: :banana:fed won the first round on clay in straight sets ,and we already hve an excuse thread .. cant wait for these two months ahead :banana: :banana:

I sure hope you're not making fun of people for making excuses. That would be the pot calling the kettle black considering you make more excuses for your player than anyone around here.

kobulingam
04-19-2007, 11:00 PM
I'm the TG (TruthGuy).Maybe you can't see the truth- Federer is in a decline period of time. I'm just a fan Federer not a fanATIC. That's why you can't see the truth...


I think Federer's problem is that he has neglected his forehand for such a long time to practice his backhand. He has been doing that since winning the AO and it has helped his backhand a little but his forehand has slipped too much (in total his game has slipped).

He'll correct this by practicing his forehand more. He's not in a decline period.

neme6
04-19-2007, 11:58 PM
I think Federer's problem is that he has neglected his forehand for such a long time to practice his backhand. He has been doing that since winning the AO and it has helped his backhand a little but his forehand has slipped too much (in total his game has slipped).

He'll correct this by practicing his forehand more. He's not in a decline period.

that's exactly what I'm thinking, he practiced his backhand so much that his forehand is less consistant right now, but i guess a few matches would help this out!

NYCtennisfan
04-20-2007, 01:19 AM
that's exactly what I'm thinking, he practiced his backhand so much that his forehand is less consistant right now, but i guess a few matches would help this out!

There is some truth in this, but for the most part, it's the fact that he hits less FH's in a match because he doesn't run around his BH as much. His BH is actually very good now so he is content to hit it. Watch a match of his from 2004 and before and see how many FH's he used to hit in a match. He has to find the happy medium which he really did at the AO this year which he won without dropping a set while not serving all that well.

leng jai
04-20-2007, 01:24 AM
He didn't really play anyone that could hurt him on his backhand. Eg. Nadal's cross court forehand to his backhand, Safins cross court backhand to his back, Haas' cross court backhand etc. Players like Roddick with a poor backhand basically no chance against Federer,

kobulingam
04-20-2007, 01:56 AM
He didn't really play anyone that could hurt him on his backhand. Eg. Nadal's cross court forehand to his backhand, Safins cross court backhand to his back, Haas' cross court backhand etc. Players like Roddick with a poor backhand basically no chance against Federer,

He played Haas in Dubai where he was already in the "concentrate on and practice my drive BH" mode. Of course, Dubai is an ultra fast, low bouncing surface so I guess Haas could trouble him even more on a high bouncing surface.

leng jai
04-20-2007, 01:59 AM
In most cases it happens at AO. Federer's backhand began to breakdown against Haas in A0 2006, and Federer's backhand lost him the match against Marat in 2005. His backhand also lost him the match against Nadal in the 2006 FO.

Gasquet&Feli_Fan
04-20-2007, 02:10 AM
When I looked into your post I saw retardation.

:lol:

atheneglaukopis
04-20-2007, 02:55 AM
THIS THREAD SUCKS BECAUSE: (Place X where applies)

[_] This topic did not need a separate thread
[X_] It speculates Federer's career is in trouble after a bad performance in which he won.
[X] Fake account
[_] It asks when and/or will Nadal become #1 in the world
[X] It is a Nadal v Federer thread where making sense is prohibited
[_] It assumes Federer will forever be on top of the tennis world
[_] It is a lame ass troll attempt
[_] It is a “Threaten to leave” thread
[_] It was started by Rafa=FedKilla
[_] It over hypes players that don’t deserve it
[_] It contains the Croatian contingent in a argument either among themselves or with others
[_] It was started by JustCause
[X] Original Posters grammar makes me suspect the post was written by 4 year old
[_] It claims Player X career is over after 1 bad loss
[_] It tries to determine the best player ever (on any surface) for the 200th time
[_] It asks when or if a young player will ever reach their potential after a totally expected loss
[_] It is a serious discussion of a exhibition match
[_] It proclaims a 16-18 year olds career is finished after a couple of first round losses
[_] It has the word Gilbert in the subject line
[_] It discusses doubles when its not a Davis Cup weekend
[_] It is a serious discussion of a clay clowns chances at a clay event or in a individual match against a competent clay player
[_] It is the annual thread where people bitch about clay courters not showing up and embarrassing themselves on grass
[_] LOL Jerry Seinfeld
[_] To much sex talk in this thread
[_] It speculates whether player X is on dope without any evidence
[_] It asks/assumes Safin is finished in tennis after a totally expected few first round loss to the local baker in the first round of small tournament X
[_] Use the damn search engine
[_] It accuses the loser of choking when he did nothing of the sort
[_] It talks about fake injuries and/or fake injury time outs
[_] Cramp is called a injury
[_] BROKEN CAPS LOCK
[_] It claims females can be competitive with males in any form of tennis
[_] Wrong forum, douche;)

D Optimist
04-20-2007, 05:21 AM
Which truth? That Roger wouldn't be able to keep up what he has done in the last years, especially the last one when he reached nearly all finals of the tournaments he entered?

I can't judge whether you are a Federer fan or not, but when you are you have probably followed his career for a longer time and shouldn't feel the need to worry about him.

I'd feel worry about him because the diference betwen actualy game and AO game is big...For me MAESTRO Federer is one of the best player I ever seen and now I can't believe it...

This guy is good. Really good.

Thank you for your understanding the point.

I think Roger probably knows what he's doing.

After 2 matches loses from Canas I believed that he will wake up , but not...and you can see his game from MC.

You betcha, Fed's in decline. Six out of the last seven GS won, grand total of 2 losses since last year, number one by a large margin for more than three years, etc, etc, etc.

He's a grade A slacker if I've ever seen one. With those stats, it's a wonder why the ATP lets him play at all! :p

Yes it was ...But what now ? UE,first serve,his forehand - you don't observe that ?

I think Federer's problem is that he has neglected his forehand for such a long time to practice his backhand. He has been doing that since winning the AO and it has helped his backhand a little but his forehand has slipped too much (in total his game has slipped).

He'll correct this by practicing his forehand more. He's not in a decline period.

You have right about forehand . But is not only that !
Something wrong is hapend in his head and that is the bigest problem.

Adler
04-20-2007, 01:34 PM
This thread now looks funny

Art&Soul
04-20-2007, 01:46 PM
:nerner:

Forehander
04-20-2007, 01:47 PM
LMAO this thread made me laugh as soon as I read it. Dude he was just uncomfortable with the court and he was pissed off lol. It's nothing more. It's not like he didn't work his way up to this "TENNIS-GOD" position lol. He'll know better than anyone how to handle situations.

D Optimist
05-10-2007, 04:13 PM
Today Volandri beat Federer 6-2 ,6-4.
Federer do not have anymore pleasure and trust in his game.
The team from his back is down . Why he can't change something ?