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Kubot & Marach in Vienna - all matches won in tie-breaks

1R - def. Chiudinelli/Luczak 6-2 5-7 [10-8]

Kubot/Marach led 8:4, then 8:8, Kubot finished first match point with backhand volley. Almost certain participation in Masters Cup after this win.

QF - def. Kohlmann/Peya 6-7(4) 6-4 [10-8]

1:3* down in the 2nd set, in the tie-break converted 2nd MP.
Kubot/Marach have a perfect record this year in matches separated by 2 points: 8-0!

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SF - def. Isner/Kerr 6-4 3-6 [10-6]

Third straight match won in the champions tie-break: 12-7 record this year.

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I wanted Kubot to lose today, so that he could play qualies in Valencia. His Masters participation is secured and Valencia could have been his last chance for TOP 100 in his career.
He most probably won't play singles this year anymore (he is 9th alternate for qualies in Paris) and in 3 weeks they will cut off his points from Helsinki 08.
We never know if Kubot can continue his good singles results in 2010.
If only he had won that match with Wawrinka... He would be TOP 100 right now He was 2 points away from TOP 100!


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TOTAL TOURNAMENTS WON: 69 (49 CLAY), (28 MASTERS 1000)

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HAAS, MONFILS, THIEM, DIMITROV,
KUBOT, JANOWICZ, PRZYSIĘŻNY, MAJCHRZAK

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Top 100 sounds good but if he finishes this year in Top 110, will play at the Aussie Open without qualifying So if he can't reach Top 100 would be good for him to reach Top 110 at least

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I'm pretty sure Kubot will be playing the Bratislava challenger just before London and Salzburg challenger just after it. One really good challenger showing and he's there.
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2-6 6-4 [11-9] in the final over Knowle/Melzer.
Kubot and Marach are unbeatable when they reach 9th point in the tie-break.

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Knowle/Melzer held two MP's at 9/7 3rd tournament won this year!


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TOTAL TOURNAMENTS WON: 69 (49 CLAY), (28 MASTERS 1000)

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I wanted Kubot to lose today, so that he could play qualies in Valencia. His Masters participation is secured and Valencia could have been his last chance for TOP 100 in his career.
He most probably won't play singles this year anymore (he is 9th alternate for qualies in Paris) and in 3 weeks they will cut off his points from Helsinki 08.
We never know if Kubot can continue his good singles results in 2010.
If only he had won that match with Wawrinka... He would be TOP 100 right now He was 2 points away from TOP 100!
Kubot still has 5 spots to fill in his countable tournaments. In other words - he will gain points in every tournament he starts till the end of the season (providing that he passes the 1st round). At least that is how I understand rankings. I believe that he will play both Bratislava and Salzburg. Both big challenger events with 17/18 points for a QF appearance. Since the difference between Top100 and Kubot's current position is ca. 30 points now - I believe that Top100 is still a reality, rather sooner than later (he has virtually no points to defend except final round of AO qualies till March).

Top100 is just a question of time imo and should be achieved until his points from Belgrade drop off. He just needs one solid run in some small ATP tournament / medium challenger or one round passed in AO and this should be it. Of course a lot will depend on other players as well, but Kubot has played relatively seldom.

But like Voo says - the priority should be AO direct entry (in 2009 the cutoff was #104 after withdrawals, so you can expect more or less the same this year)
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Kubot still has 5 spots to fill in his countable tournaments. In other words - he will gain points in every tournament he starts till the end of the season (providing that he passes the 1st round). At least that is how I understand rankings. I believe that he will play both Bratislava and Salzburg. Both big challenger events with 17/18 points for a QF appearance. Since the difference between Top100 and Kubot's current position is ca. 30 points now - I believe that Top100 is still a reality, rather sooner than later (he has virtually no points to defend except final round of AO qualies till March).

Top100 is just a question of time imo and should be achieved until his points from Belgrade drop off. He just needs one solid run in some small ATP tournament / medium challenger or one round passed in AO and this should be it. Of course a lot will depend on other players as well, but Kubot has played relatively seldom.

But like Voo says - the priority should be AO direct entry (in 2009 the cutoff was #104 after withdrawals, so you can expect more or less the same this year)
You forget about Helsinki which is 42 points. He will lose thos points on 23.11 and 42 points in his case it's a huge amount of points...


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TOTAL TOURNAMENTS WON: 69 (49 CLAY), (28 MASTERS 1000)

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You forget about Helsinki which is 42 points. He will lose thos points on 23.11 and 42 points in his case it's a huge amount of points...
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But like Voo says - the priority should be AO direct entry (in 2009 the cutoff was #104 after withdrawals, so you can expect more or less the same this year)
Last year at the Aussie Open was 111, this year at RG 106, Wimbly and UO - 108. Generally is good to be in the Top 110 one month before a Grand Slam event, a chance to play in the main draw without qualifying is decent

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Knowle/Melzer held two MP's at 9/7 3rd tournament won this year!
Third win this year after saving MP by Polish/Austrian duo.

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“We were very lucky. Jurgen was on fire, they were the better team in the first set,” complimented Kubot. “Then I hit a great return to get a break up and we won the second set. In the Match Tie-break there were some very good points for the people to watch and we were lucky in the end.

“I think that we didn’t show our best tennis this week, but we were fighting, we won all our matches in the Match Tie-breaks and this gave us a lot of confidence. Hopefully we have one foot now already in the Barclays ATP World Tour Finals.”

“I feel unbelievable,” said Marach. “At the end we were lucky because we had two match points against us and I framed a lob with the backhand. Today it was very special to win this tournament with Lukasz, firstly because it’s in Vienna, my home town, and secondly because it’s very important for us with the Barclays ATP World Tour Finals.”

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You forget about Helsinki which is 42 points. He will lose thos points on 23.11 and 42 points in his case it's a huge amount of points...
Before he will (theoretically) lose Helsinki's points, has two weeks to improve his ranking. Firstly qualifying to Paris (if he will play there) and later I hope he'll play in Bratislava's challenger (that week last year played his QF in Helsinki). In Helsinki probably won't play this year because the same week is Masters Cup. I'm not a specialist of ranking but I think he would enter Top 100 with 1st rd in Paris and at least SF in Bratislava

This week has the highest position in both: singles (108) and doubles (11). It would be great to finish the season in Top 100 and Top 10 respectively

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Re: Kubot & Marach in Vienna - all matches won in tie-breaks

How low is Polish men's tennis when we are discussing a "potential" Top100 entry for a player (first since when ???) as something extraordinary

But this is a material for a completely different discussion of course.

Right now we should be happy with our doubles, WTA and Kubot, as it is still the best we had in last 20 years or something.
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