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Re: Clay season 2012, "Take Two" most definitely

He lost the second 6-2

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Re: Clay season 2012, "Take Two" most definitely

Down a break in the third now, it seems he's lost his form from earlier this clay season. Wish I could see what was going on.

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Re: Clay season 2012, "Take Two" most definitely

Gilles came back from 0-4, two breaks down to win 6-4 in the third

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Re: Clay season 2012, "Take Two" most definitely

I woke up and he's down 2-4 in the 3rd, and then he won 4 games to win the match. Well done.
But I think we shouldn't have high hope for the next match, he never beat Ferrer on clay before and I don't think he can do it tomorrow, especially after a 2.5hr match today, and he already said he has no energy yesterday.

I don't know what's going on with him, but if I'm him, I'll check with a doctor. I mean, his performances lately since MC, and what he said after matches, there's a recurring theme, tired, no energy, fatique... I'm getting worry for him.
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Oh, so he was down 0-4 and won 6 games? wow, bravo. He broke the last GGL serve from 0-40 down.
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I woke up and he's down 2-4 in the 3rd, and then he won 4 games to win the match. Well done.
But I think we shouldn't have high hope for the next match, he never beat Ferrer on clay before and I don't think he can do it tomorrow, especially after a 2.5hr match today, and he already said he has no energy yesterday.

I don't know what's going on with him, but if I'm him, I'll check with a doctor. I mean, his performances lately since MC, and what he said after matches, there's a recurring theme, tired, no energy, fatique... I'm getting worry for him.
Agree with this, but at least he's had a much better claycourt season than last year and picked up a lot of points. I don't think he should play in Nice, it's not worth it. He needs to be physically ready for Paris.

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I woke up and he's down 2-4 in the 3rd, and then he won 4 games to win the match. Well done.
But I think we shouldn't have high hope for the next match, he never beat Ferrer on clay before and I don't think he can do it tomorrow, especially after a 2.5hr match today, and he already said he has no energy yesterday.

I don't know what's going on with him, but if I'm him, I'll check with a doctor. I mean, his performances lately since MC, and what he said after matches, there's a recurring theme, tired, no energy, fatique... I'm getting worry for him.
yeah me too, i am seriously concerned about what's going on here.

happy he got through it today but im not thrilled about what david might do to him in the next round
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Re: Clay season 2012, "Take Two" most definitely

Well, I guess the bright side is, his body is tired, his mind is not. I mean, we've seen him mentally drained end of last year, when he's horrendous and losing matches in bagel. At least now he's fighting no matter how behind he is. That will catch up to him some time, but not now.

I so hope he get out of Nice, or at least tank the first match or sth, not sure if he'll do that though, it being Nice his hometown. But the folks there will understand he needs some rest before RG.

But as Mike said, he's done well on clay this year. I always see the clay season as an X-factor for him. He's performance on HC is more reliable and consistent. He can count on getting a certain amount of points on that surface. But if he does well on clay, those are the one that will move him up the ranking. The most important tournament on clay is still coming. Expectation is high this year, he needs to be well prepared both physically and mentally. Anyway, we'll see what happens. And as for tomorrow, I still hope for the best despite not expecting him to win. Allez Gilles.
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Re: Clay season 2012, "Take Two" most definitely

Thurs OOP:

SUPERTENNIS ARENA Start 11:00 am
Sorana Cirstea (ROU)v[4] Petra Kvitova (CZE)
[6] David Ferrer (ESP)v[11] Gilles Simon (FRA)
[16] Richard Gasquet (FRA)v[4] Andy Murray (GBR)


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Re: Clay season 2012, "Take Two" most definitely

i think he beat Ferrer in Hamburg last season in the SF
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Re: Clay season 2012, "Take Two" most definitely

Nope, he beated Ferrer at Cincy R3 7-5 in the third. It was Youzhny who he beated in Hamburg SF.

Anyways, Allez for Gilles vs Ferrer, hope he gives everything he has!

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Re: Clay season 2012, "Take Two" most definitely

Hats off to you Mike S. for suffering through the old scoreboard torture test.

I just wasn't up for watching the scoreboard this morning (too stressful ) so I went on a blackout until I thought the match would be over and was literally shaking as I clicked on the mouse to reveal the scores of the day only to see that Gilles was able to beat Lopez yet again. And to find out how he did it just makes me that much more proud of him.

I wouldn't read too much into the whole lack of energy thing. That's just Gilles being his humble and honest self and more the result, I think, of his recent string of success more than a possible underlying ailment of some kind. After all, when you're playing well and winning a lot, you're naturally playing a lot more tennis as a result of that success going farther in tournaments more regularly. Also, Gilles has said that the reason why he is playing so much better now is because he is finally pain free in his knee and back and knows he can go as long as it takes. So if anything, he's healthier than ever.

Again, I am so proud of him when he pulls out wins like this instead of just going a way like so many others would, including a few of his fellow countrymen. It's the truest sign of someone with the heart of a champion. To never give up. It makes me wish that I actually could've seen this match that much more. I bet his winning reaction and yell on match point was intense and awesomely rewarding too!

I know Ferrer will be a tough match up for him, but he is definitely in it with a chance and the one thing that does trouble him, being overpowered, won't be a problem with Ferrer since he has neither a big serve or powerful groundstrokes. This will be a match up of a grinder vs a counterpuncher. In fact, I think Gilles has more pop on his groundies and serve than Ferrer does. We'll see. Good luck Gilles!
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I wouldn't read too much into the whole lack of energy thing. That's just Gilles being his humble and honest self
not sure what you mean, but I like it all the same.
I won't really describe Gilles as humble, but he doesn't brag and he has good perspective of things, that could be counted as characters of a humble person.

Anyway, this is on the paper:

HIER, GILLES SIMON ne se souvenait pas avoir opéré pareil renversement de situation. « Revenir de 0-4 dans un dernier set, franchement ça ne me dit rien. » Avec l’opiniâtreté qu’on lui connaît, le Français finit par écoeurer, frappe après frappe, point après point, jeu après jeu, un Guillermo Garcia-lopez pourtant bien disposé (6-4, 2-6, 6-4). On aurait pu l’imaginer sautant de joie et débordant d’enthousiasme. Pas le genre de la maison. « Sur terre, je sais que les points, il faut les faire, dit-il avec le pragmatisme qu’on lui connaît. Ensuite, quand tu prends l’ascendant, tu le prends dans tous les domaines. Sur la fin, j’étais clairement au-dessus. » Fort de sa quatorzième victoire sur terre de la saison, Simon pourrait se voir beau avant son huitième de finale. Mais il tombe sur un os, un « Pou », une « Mobylette » : David Ferrer et son réservoir d’essence (presque) toujours plein. En trois confrontations sur l’ocre, le Français n’a grappillé qu’onze jeux en trois matches. Misère, misère… « Des matches vraiment pas mauvais, mais où j’ai pourtant gagné très peu de jeux à l’arrivée, résume Simon. Face à lui, si on est juste un poil au-dessous, ça peut quand même faire très mal. C’est un gars qui ne lâche rien, qui rebondit tout le temps. On a l’impression qu’il n’est jamais fatigué. Il t’envoie à droite, à gauche, et dès que tu retiens un peu, c’est la sanction. Il passe devant au score, et c’est fini… » Simon possède t-il suffisamment de réserves pour oxyder l’inoxydable ? « Physiquement, je me sens mal, mais j’étais bien mieux aujourd’hui (hier) que lors du premier tour, explique-t-il. Tous les jours sont différents… Et puis, j’aurai moins de pression que contre Garcia-lopez. » Tacticien émérite, le Français n’est pas certain de détenir le remède anti-pou. « En revanche, je sais très bien ce qu’il ne faudra pas faire ! Il va falloir que je lui propose quelque chose de différent. Pas service- volée ou retour- volée, hein ! Mais quelque chose qui force le jeu pour changer la donne et passer au-dessus. » D’avance, on lui souhaite bien du courage… Mais Simon a encore prouvé hier qu’il n’en manquait pas.


I also found an article that actually describe the match:

Sans être impérial sur le court, le Niçois entamait bien la rencontre, se détachant très rapidement au score (3/1). Il subissait alors un premier coup d’arrêt, encaissant 3 jeux consécutifs (3/4). Mais u ne fin de manche bien mieux maitrisée de sa part lui permettait finalement d’empocher le set inscrivant à son tour 3 jeux de suite (6/4 en 51 minutes).

Alors que l’on pensait que le gain de cette première manche allait mettre Simon en confiance, c’est l’inverse qui se produisit sur le court. Garcia-Lopez, visiblement blessé par la perte de cette première manche, démarrait pied au plancher ce set, prenant très rapidement ses aises vis-à-vis du Niçois (1/4). L’Espagnol se permettait même de luxe de conclure la manche sur un deuxième break (2/6 en 37 minutes). Désormais dominateur sur le court, le 85e joueur mondial ne relâchait pas son étreinte sur Simon, se détachant très nettement au score dans le troisième et dernier set (0/4). Totalement dominé, sans solutions sur le court, Gilles Simon semblait se diriger tout droit vers une défaite qui aurait pu lui faire très mal. Au pied du mur, il se décidait enfin à lâcher ses coups, quant il se contentait jusque-là de défendre. Une tactique qui s’avérait de suite payante et qui permettait au Français de refaire dans un premier temps l’un de ses deux breaks de retard (2/4). En face, Guillermo Garcia-Lopez, issu des qualifications et qui disputait ce mercredi son 5e match en 8 jours, sombrait définitivement, ne parvenant plus à marquer le moindre jeu et laissait donc Gilles Simon s’envoler vers la victoire (6/4).
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not sure what you mean, but I like it all the same.
I won't really describe Gilles as humble, but he doesn't brag and he has good perspective of things, that could be counted as characters of a humble person.
Oh I would. I would absolutely describe Gilles as humble. Like you said. He doesn't brag or boast about his abilities.

What I meant when I said that is, Gilles always seems to be downplaying his wins and accomplishments and says I was tired or I got a little bit lucky when sometimes he really just outplayed the other guy either totally or when it mattered most in certain situations but he rarely ever says that. He's too humble to. Nadal is like that too and he's not even a favorite of mine. You would never catch say Tsonga passing up the opportunity to let everybody know how great he is or how great he played. Or at least how great he "thinks" he is. No offense to Tsonga fans, but what the hay, this is the Gilles Simon thread right.
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Re: Clay season 2012, "Take Two" most definitely

just happy he fought that win out. losing to 2 of his bitches in 2 straight weeks would have been really annoying.

he needs to be solid as a rock against ferrer

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