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Latvian language - Because Gulbis speaks it

Any questions/discussions related to Latvian go here. The Latvian experts (myself included) will do the best to help you out

As a starting point for Latvian you can use this website. You can find more resources in the links section.

Things to shout out at his matches:

Sarauj! - come on/let's go/start playing even better!
Turies, Ernest! - Keep yourself together, Ernest, keep your head cool!
Malacis! - Well done*
Saņemies! - Get yourself together

*I cannot stress it enough that letter c is always pronounced like 'ts'. ALWAYS. It's never like 'k' or 's'.

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Ernests Gulbis on seeing HEAD racquets being made by hand:
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I felt so bad. I didn’t break a racquet for like one month. They are putting so much effort to make the racquets and an idiot like me goes and breaks them
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mmm INTERSTING
but my brain is full of other language .....
(arabic ,frensh ,english,spanish )
and soon latvian

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mmm INTERSTING
but my brain is full of other language .....
(arabic ,frensh ,english,spanish )
and soon latvian
we never know enough languages
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So many polyglots around here, I like that

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I see some people want lessons Ok, you shall get them.

First, I'll repeat what I wrote in another thread:

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The thing about tennis terms in Latvian is that many people use the English terms (with a Latvian favour, I mean ending) because Latvian expressions either don't exist or they are too long. Let's take the word 'ace' for example. Many people use the same word in Latvian but we write it differently than in English because we have different pronunciation rules. If we write 'eis' in Latvian, it's pronounced the same as 'ace' in English. Now we only add an extra 's' for grammar purposes and we get the word 'eiss'. That's the Latvian version of 'ace'. Funny, isn't it? You wouldn't find this word in a dictionary because the proper translation of 'ace' is 'Neatvairāma serve' (a serve you can't touch) but most people on the internet use the word 'eiss' (and other forms like 'eisi', 'eisu', 'eisiem' etc.) because it's so much shorter.

The same situation is with the word 'game'. It doesn't have a proper Latvian translation so people take the English version 'geim' and add an 's'. The same is with 'set' - 'sets' although in this case 'sets' is a proper word, it's in dictionaries.
Now let's look at the eSports article here. It has some very important words in the heading - "Gulbim pirmā uzvara uz zāliena". What does it mean?

Gulbim - well, you know who Gulbis is His surname here is used in the Dative case which means 'To Gulbis'.

Pirmā - the first (feminine form). The masculine form for 'the first' is pirmais. Why is the female form used here if Gulbis is a male? Because this word describes, goes together with the next word (uzvara) and that one is feminine.

Uzvara - a win. A very important word to know So how do you know it's feminine, not masculine? Easy, feminine words end with -a or -e while masculine end with -s.

Uz - this is a preposition which usually has one of two meanings. It means either 'on' like in 'the laptop is on my desk' or 'to' when showing direction with physical movement involved like 'I'm going to a bookstore'. The preposition uz requires Genitive when it means 'on' and Accusative when it means 'to'. Yeah complicated, I know, so I won't even tell you that it requires Dative in both meanings if the noun is in plural

Zāliens - grass. Wait, is it zāliena or zāliens then? as I explained before, uz requires Genitive and zāliena is the Genitive form of zāliens. So you see, a word ending with -a could be either f. Nom. or m. Gen. I'm sure you love how difficult that is

So what does "Gulbim pirmā uzvara uz zāliena" actually mean? It means that Gulbis got his first win on grass. I know, there's a verb missing there somewhere but that's just because it's a heading. Usually verbs are not omitted.

Here are some phrases just for fun (and using lots of Genitive ):

geims - a game
sets - a set
spēle - a match
punkts - a point
spēles pirmais punkts - the first point of the match
Ernesta pirmā spēle - Ernest's first match
Ernesta pirmās spēles pirmais sets - the first set of Ernest's first match
Ernesta pirmās spēles pirmais breikpunkts - the first break point of Ernest's first match
pirmā seta pirmais geims - the first game of the first set
Ernesta pirmā spēle uz zāliena - Ernest's first match on grass

Please raise your hand and let me know if Latvian is too hard for you or it's 'nothing' compared to Latin

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the words seem quite easy to remember, it's the endings that get me confused lol
could you give us a standard example for how the endings are in Nom, Acc etc. ?
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It's described very well here.

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First, I'll repeat what I wrote in another thread:



Now let's look at the eSports article here. It has some very important words in the heading - "Gulbim pirmā uzvara uz zāliena". What does it mean?

Gulbim - well, you know who Gulbis is His surname here is used in the Dative case which means 'To Gulbis'.

Pirmā - the first (feminine form). The masculine form for 'the first' is pirmais. Why is the female form used here if Gulbis is a male? Because this word describes, goes together with the next word (uzvara) and that one is feminine.

Uzvara - a win. A very important word to know So how do you know it's feminine, not masculine? Easy, feminine words end with -a or -e while masculine end with -s.

Uz - this is a preposition which usually has one of two meanings. It means either 'on' like in 'the laptop is on my desk' or 'to' when showing direction with physical movement involved like 'I'm going to a bookstore'. The preposition uz requires Genitive when it means 'on' and Accusative when it means 'to'. Yeah complicated, I know, so I won't even tell you that it requires Dative in both meanings if the noun is in plural

Zāliens - grass. Wait, is it zāliena or zāliens then? as I explained before, uz requires Genitive and zāliena is the Genitive form of zāliens. So you see, a word ending with -a could be either f. Nom. or m. Gen. I'm sure you love how difficult that is

So what does "Gulbim pirmā uzvara uz zāliena" actually mean? It means that Gulbis got his first win on grass. I know, there's a verb missing there somewhere but that's just because it's a heading. Usually verbs are not omitted.

Here are some phrases just for fun (and using lots of Genitive ):

geims - a game
sets - a set
spēle - a match
punkts - a point
spēles pirmais punkts - the first point of the match
Ernesta pirmā spēle - Ernest's first match
Ernesta pirmās spēles pirmais sets - the first set of Ernest's first match
Ernesta pirmās spēles pirmais breikpunkts - the first break point of Ernest's first match
pirmā seta pirmais geims - the first game of the first set
Ernesta pirmā spēle uz zāliena - Ernest's first match on grass

Please raise your hand and let me know if Latvian is too hard for you or it's 'nothing' compared to Latin
Its beginning to make some sense to me Evita And very well explained too, thank you

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It's described very well here.
thanks that's what I was looking for!
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