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Nadal beating Federer on a hybrid grass/clay court.




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Re: Nadal beating Federer on a hybrid grass/clay court.

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Re: Nadal beating Federer on a hybrid grass/clay court.

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Re: Nadal beating Federer on a hybrid grass/clay court.

Federer's side is grass, so it's harder for Nadal to kick up to his backhand...but at the same time Nadal's ball penetrates the court faster and his lefty serve swings wide and low to Fed's backhand.

On Nadal's side, it's slow clay, so Nadal can hang five metres behind the baseline and defend forever.

Result = NID. A meaningless contest.

Edit: Wait, did they change ends or not? If so, it's slightly fairer, though still heavily advantageous to Nadal.
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Re: Nadal beating Federer on a hybrid grass/clay court.

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Edit: Wait, did they change ends or not? If so, it's slightly fairer, though still heavily advantageous to Nadal.
They did change ends but all this match proved was the match up advantage for Nadal overcame any surface advantage. Federer's advantage on grass was more than over matched by Nadal's advantage on clay and match up advantage.
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Re: Nadal beating Federer on a hybrid grass/clay court.

That was an amazing match, which proved RAFA Claydal > Mirka Grasserer. Also I would like to watch the RAFA - Djokovic on clay-HC.

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Re: Nadal beating Federer on a hybrid grass/clay court.

All this proves is that Nadal is a hellish matchup for Fed. Fed playing on the grass side means better movement, but Nadal's shots end up coming pretty quickly at him, there's not much advantage there. Nadal is on his clay side which means he has infinitely better movement and shots come to him in slow motion, and he's able to run around his BH to dictate play with his FH.



Hmm, roles reversed... would this now give Federer an advantage if his opponent was playing on a grass instead? Nadal would have worse movement yes, and balls would be coming at him quickly. But then again Fed's movement has declined as they switched sides. And Nadal when he gets a chance is able to hit that high bouncing forehand to his Fed's OHBH which bounces up high and probably comes back weak allowing Nadal to dictate. Also don't forget this is 2007 where Nadal's level was pretty high on grass as after all he made 3 Wimbledon finals in 3 years.

Moral of the story is, Nadal's clay prowess far exceeds Federer's grass prowess at the time. Nadal was almost unbeatable on the damn surface back then, and was a pretty good grass player. So basically this matchup disadvantage heavily favors Nadal no matter what as Federer's advantage on grass over clay is not higher than Nadal's advantage on clay over grass. Nadaltards exposed.
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Re: Nadal beating Federer on a hybrid grass/clay court.

Nadal won 7–5, 4–6, 7–6(12–10), at home in Palma de Mallorca !

Could have gone either way
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