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Germany vs. Israel

Germany:

Rainer Schüttler
Kiefer
Tommy Haas
Alexander Waske they should have chosen Braasch

Israel:

Harel Levy
Noam Okun
Jonathan Erlich
Andy Ram

This should be an interesting tie.
For Israel, I guess Levy and Okun will play singles and Erlich/Ram in doubles.
Germany, it's much more complicated.
Who will play singles? I have no idea.
Schüttler is in terrible form, and most of his DC-performances haven't been convincing.
Kiefer has had the best results recently, but he's totally unreliable, especially in DC where he has an awful record.
Haas is just coming back from injury and has only had one decent tournament. However he has been the best DC player by far in recent years.
And in doubles? No idea either.
Kiefer/Schüttler have played a few times, with mixed success.
Haas has had a few wins too.
Waske has won some challengers in doubles recently, but that doesn't mean much.

If Israel wins one match on the opening day they will have a great chance. They should win the doubles with the good team Erlich/Ram and then who knows.
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The Germans may not have a good DC record, but that was in the world group against opponents much better than the Israelis...
Whoever plays in singles for Germany will be favorite against Harel Levy, and you can count on 2 easy rubbers against Noam Okun...
We need 2 wins from Harel plus the doubles to win the tie... that's very very tough...
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I'm expecting Germany to win, probably in a steamroll with a 3-1 or 3-0 lead...

if they don't win you can carry German tennis to the grave...

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Germany should be the favourite, but they have already made the mistake to underestimate Belarus very badly. They thought putting Belarus on a clay court was enough and they lost. They should not make that mistake again.
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They should not make that mistake again.
I hope they don't. But honestly, a team consisting of Haas, Schüttler and Kiefer should be simply too strong.

Supposing Haas and Schüttler both find back to their prime form, Germany can be dangerous for every nation in the future. Kiefer isn't too shabby as of recent also. I have some good hopes. They need to take the first step this weekend. No ifs. They have to show that they can win as a team - Kiefer and Haas have to put their egos and their former quarrels aside.

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Wow, Neely, you must be an optimist if you think these people can put their egos aside
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Wow, Neely, you must be an optimist if you think these people can put their egos aside
LOL, one need to be optimistic with the recent Germany DC records and the way German players are playing these days.

I think both Haas and Kiefer have their egos tuned down a bit after their injuries and struggles. Would it be enough to have a real truce in the German camp? We'll wait and see.
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LOL, one need to be optimistic with the recent Germany DC records and the way German players are playing these days.
well, in difference to lots of other people, I'm not thinking that losing to Belarus last year was a big shame. We all know Belarus has a very strong double and that they have Miryni. That was for sure enough to beat a German team consisting of Schüttler and Behrend in singles and a Schüttler/Kiefer doubles.
No question, the loss hurt being relegated then, but for me it was not such a big deal... and yes, I'm normally always optimistic if there are some good reasons: I saw Kiefer playing several good weeks now (making the quarter final in Miami), I'm expecting Haas to make continuous improvements (he played very well the 2nd day of his match against Cañas, just couldn't handle the difficult windy conditions on the 1st day of his match) and Schüttler should get out of his slump soon, too (bad luck Kiefer and Schüttler had to face each other so early in Miami).

But, last but not least, let me also say that playing Davis Cup is different to playing singles on the ATP tour.

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I hope Germany will win, aber it's going to be tough, Israel's doubles players are excellent and we don't have a real good pair
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Alles klar!
I hope things go well in Alsdorf, maybe the media here will finally show some interest again if the team does well

My German guys are like the cast of the Wizard of Oz:

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Come on Germany! Beat everyone and then set up a tie in September, against Australia!!!

BTW, I don't know if this could possibly happen or not, or even if the tie would then be played in Australia. But if it was, I'd definitely go! (To support Germany of course!)

Does anyone know who the fifth guy in the team is? I can't seem to find Alexander Popp's name anywhere and I was hoping maybe they chose him! (Or is Lars ranked higher? Lars is at River Oaks ) Regardless, Go Germany!

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Come on Germany! Beat everyone and then set up a tie in September, against Australia!!!

BTW, I don't know if this could possibly happen or not, or even if the tie would then be played in Australia. But if it was, I'd definitely go! (To support Germany of course!)



Does anyone know who the fifth guy in the team is? I can't seem to find Alexander Popp's name anywhere and I was hoping maybe they chose him! (Or is Lars ranked higher? Lars is at River Oaks ) Regardless, Go Germany!
Wow, you're not an Aussie then?!

I think there are only 4 players on the team. Don't know why Popp was overlooked, nobody here pays attention to him at all

My German guys are like the cast of the Wizard of Oz:

Rainer = Lion
Kiwi = Scarecrow
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Hi Space Cadet!

Yeah, I'm an Australian - but only according to my birth certificate. In tennis my heart lies with Scandinavians and the Germans . In particular, Alexander! Today I decided he's worthy, and so I've elevated him from third, to equal 2nd place in my rankings! (I watched Popp vs Scud Wimbledon 03 on the video tonight-while I was meant to write an essay I've still not finished!)

Alexander had a big impact on me in January, just because he was very nice and considerate to me, and I even went against a Swede to support him in the Aus Open! (Joachim Johansson) Alexander seemed to appreciate it

Alexander's results really bug me sometimes, because we know he's capable of so much, but sometimes his results are just crap . It's ok though. He'll still be my =#2! Hoping Germany and Sweden can kick ass!

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Good luck Germany

If everything turns well, Israel team should not be a problem for Germany. Hope Kiefer and Haas will play single. Rainer is not in a great form in single recently.
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