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Davis Cup 2005 SF - Slovak Republic vs. Argentina

Semifinal

Slovak Republic - Argentina

23 Sep - 25 Sep 2005

Hrbaty - "Of course Argentina will be favourites, but I think that we have more togetherness. That is the main thing about our team. Also we will be playing at home so we can choose the surface. But Argentina has many players from the top 10 but I have played them before and managed to win so I think we can win if we play our usual Davis Cup match."

Hrbaty's record against Nalbandian (0-1)

L - 2004 Monte Carlo AMS, Clay, R64 Monaco - 3 6 0 6

Hrbaty's record against Coria (2-2)

W - 2003 Barcelona, Clay, R32 Spain - 4 3
L - 2002 Costa Do Sauipe, Hard, Q Brasil - 2 6 4 6
L - 2002 Prostejov, CH, Clay, Q Czech Republic - 5 7 2 6
W - 2002 Mallorca, Clay, R32 Spain - 6 0 1 0

Miroslav Mecir (Slovak captain) - "For sure it is a big surprise that Argentina beat Australia because they were playing at home on a good surface that gave them a big advantage. "We wouldn’t like to play Argentina on clay so probably we will choose a faster surface like this one."

Slovak Republic won the only meeting between them in 1998 (in Buenos Aires) with an amazing performance of Dominik Hrbaty against Hernan Gumy, giving them the 5th and decisive point.

Link to info of that tie

This tie is probably going to be played in Bratislava, on the same surface they used against the Spanish an the Dutch.

Is not going to be easy for the Argentines since Hrbaty is a great Davis Cup player...

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I am worried that after the euphoria of beating the Aussies on grass in Sydney last weekend, the Argentine Team may subconsciously relax and think this tie is easy. Everyone thought the Australia tie would be the biggest hurdle and now they have overcome it, they may feel almost overconfident and Slovakia away on a very fast surface will not be easy.

I was at the Monte Carlo match last year when David destroyed Hrbaty 6-3, 6-0 - but I don't think that scoreline is indicative of what a talented player Hrbaty is, and he definately does raise his game when playing for his country. I hope to be there to cheer Team Argentina on, - I hope they can win but think it will be a hard tie for them.

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Re: Davis Cup SF - Slovak Republic vs. Argentina

Rosie, what do you think about the surface?

Against the Spanish and the Dutch this year, and last year against the Germans, they played in Bratislava on Hard (Premier), Indoors.

But in 2002 against Romania and in 2001 against Chile, they played in Presov, on Carpet (Taraflex), Indoors.

What surface do you think they are going to choose?

To the Slovaks in the forum, are there any possibilities you are going back to play in Presov... or install a carpet court in the Stadium in Bratislava?

Thanks in advance...

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Re: Davis Cup 2005 SF - Slovak Republic vs. Argentina

They will probably play in Bratislava on the fastest surface possible known to man, to stop the Argentines. Basically the simple equation is that if David Nalbandian doesn't play, then Argentina will not win.

Hrbaty is a Davis Cup warrior and plays so much better for Slovakia. As for Mancini, he won't let them get too overconfident and tie will be very difficult.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Rosie, what do you think about the surface?

Against the Spanish and the Dutch this year, and last year against the Germans, they played in Bratislava on Hard (Premier), Indoors.

But in 2002 against Romania and in 2001 against Chile, they played in Presov, on Carpet (Taraflex), Indoors.

What surface do you think they are going to choose?

To the Slovaks in the forum, are there any possibilities you are going back to play in Presov... or install a carpet court in the Stadium in Bratislava?

Thanks in advance...
I agree with GWH - I think they will play on the fastest surface they can find - like Belarus did last year! I think they'll play in Bratislava because Presov may not be big or "high profile" enough a venue for a semi final against a big team like Argentina, - though whether they could lay a carpet court in the Bratislava stadium is something I can't answer as I've never been to the venue. As you say, I'm sure some of our Slovak posters would be able to answer that one.

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It isn't that difficult to lay down a carpet court and they will do everything they can to benefit them, use a lighter ball and if they could get away with an ice rink they will do it.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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It isn't that difficult to lay down a carpet court and they will do everything they can to benefit them, use a lighter ball and if they could get away with an ice rink they will do it.
That is stupid. Slovaks are ever worse on fastcourts than Argentinians. Look at W results. They should play on hardcourts of American type. That's their only chance as it is good surface for them, not the best surface of Argentinians, and plus crowd support, etc. At least they have a shot on hardcourts. On carpet Nalbandian and Coria will tear them apart.
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Re: Davis Cup 2005 SF - Slovak Republic vs. Argentina

It will be very interesting to see what they choose. My gut says it will end up being some variance of a hard court, but you certainly cannot rule out the carpet.

Many win-loss records do not count the defeat Hrbaty gave to Coria earlier this year at the Hopman Cup. Perth is obviously an indoor hard court, but I'm not sure exactly what it is like. Though my guess would be it is similar speed to what is used in Melbourne. Another reason it is a relevant result is because it is similar to Davis Cup in that Hrbaty was "playing for Slovakia".
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That is stupid. Slovaks are ever worse on fastcourts than Argentinians. Look at W results. They should play on hardcourts of American type. That's their only chance as it is good surface for them, not the best surface of Argentinians, and plus crowd support, etc. At least they have a shot on hardcourts. On carpet Nalbandian and Coria will tear them apart.
What is stupid is to for one assume that it will be the same team that played in Australia, there are things that can happen and two, the fact that Hrbaty plays 5 times above his normal self when he is playing Davis Cup, especially at home.

Well the Slovaks aren't going to play on a slow surface are they? Hence the faster it is, the better for them and if the teams remain unchanged then the doubles will be even more important.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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What is stupid is to for one assume that it will be the same team that played in Australia, there are things that can happen and two, the fact that Hrbaty plays 5 times above his normal self when he is playing Davis Cup, especially at home.

Well the Slovaks aren't going to play on a slow surface are they? Hence the faster it is, the better for them and if the teams remain unchanged then the doubles will be even more important.
Well I think it will be pretty much the same team barring injuries. David and Mariano Puerta are playing doubles at the US Open as they have already been approached to be the doubles' team in Slovakia, and I can't imagine Mancini leaving out Coria as the other singles player - so seems it will be the same team.

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Maybe if Cañas is not senteced by the ATP he'll be part of the team, but I still don't know how it will be. Though if nothing happens I guess the match will be pretty much the same.
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Besides, even if some names have changed, the team has been quite the same if you think about it. Against Czech Republic, Coria and Nalbandian were the singlists, and David played doubles with Puerta. In Australia, Guillermo and David were singlists and David also played doubles, this time with Puerta. I don't think it will vary that much.
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Besides, even if some names have changed, the team has been quite the same if you think about it. Against Czech Republic, Coria and Nalbandian were the singlists, and David played doubles with Puerta. In Australia, Guillermo and David were singlists and David also played doubles, this time with Puerta. I don't think it will vary that much.
Well thats pretty much the same team....

against Czech Republic Coria and Nalbandian played the singles, and David and Willy Cañas played the doubles.

I think against the Slovak Republic the team won't change... unless Cañas doesn't receive a suspension. In that case, Cañas will replace Etlis.
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Well thats pretty much the same team....

against Czech Republic Coria and Nalbandian played the singles, and David and Willy Cañas played the doubles.

I think against the Slovak Republic the team won't change... unless Cañas doesn't receive a suspension. In that case, Cañas will replace Etlis.
Even if he does not get suspended, forget about Canas for this year. He will be out of sorts, hardly of capable of serious training until the whole story is over. This kind of situation is always very detrimental to player's ability, regardless of whether it materialises into suspension or not. Look at Kuznetsova. She has never been under serious threat of being suspended. Yet, it took her long, long time to get over it.
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