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Re: Tennis Tipping #5C - Nussloch - Monday OOP posted #106 due 10AM CET time!

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Thanks, everything is all correct and the diffs stay as in Post 115

1ST Kitty Tennis 60
7TH Mahqz 132
8TH Sander 147
20TH August NR
23RD Elirj 10
28TH Baink 186

Toooom replaced by LL Murraynizer – WHO PLAYS BAINK – 28th - correct
diego36arg replaced by LL duarteln – WHO PLAYS ELIRJ10 – 23rd - correct

Kitty tennis, Mahqz, Sander and August get the W/O's
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2. After that, place all Lucky Losers in a way that the best ranked players (entry list rankings) go through to the next round, getting a W/O.
Adey,

That was exactly the single doubt. The rule say about RANKING but I could not find about to have a best ranking but being LE. I think the rule is not specific about that.

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Re: Tennis Tipping #5C - Nussloch - Monday OOP posted #106 due 10AM CET time!

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Adey,

That was exactly the single doubt. The rule say about RANKING but I could not find about to have a best ranking but being LE. I think the rule is not specific about that.
The trouble for me was that I couldn't see the Entry List on the Front Page

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Re: Tennis Tipping #5C - Nussloch - Monday OOP posted #106 due 10AM CET time!

From the FAQ:
(I couldn´t see anything about LE with best ranking). I don´t want to be polemic but it´s just to see exactly what is written on the rule.)

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How to place Alternates and Lucky Losers in case players forget to send picks in?

They should be placed randomly.
If there are more spots than alternates/Lucky Losers:
Check if there are matches where both players didn't send picks. If so, the manager should place a LL there, so there is no win by Ranking.
After that, place all Lucky Losers in a way that the best ranked players (entry list rankings) go through to the next round, getting a W/O.
After that, if there are any alternates or lucky losers placed against a player/team who didn't send picks, the draw should be adjusted in order to give the byes to the best ranked players who enter the draw directly. The alternates and lucky losers should play their first round matches against the opponents of the players who were given the byes. Example:
1st round
Player A (ranked #1) vs Player B (ranked #8)
Player C (ranked #2) vs Player D (ranked #5)
Player E (ranked #3) vs Player F (ranked #7)
Player G (ranked #4) vs Player H (ranked #6)
Player I (ranked #5) vs Player J (ranked #10)

Alternates:
#1 Player K (ranked #11)
#2 Player L (ranked #12)

Problem: Players C, D, E and F didn't send picks.

After steps #1 & #2, the draw changes to:

Player A (1) vs Player B (8)
Player C (2) vs Player L (ALT)
Player E (3) vs Player K (ALT)
Player G (4) vs Player H (6)
Player I (5) vs Player J (10)

Players A, B, G, H, I & J, who already were in the draw, would have to play a valid match while Players K & L would advance directly to the 2nd round.

Step #3: the two best ranked players who didn't receive byes and already were in the draw (Players A & G) are given the byes. Their opponents are placed against the two alternates:

Player A (1) vs bye
Player H (8) vs Player L (ALT)
Player B (6) vs Player K (ALT)
Player G (4) vs bye
Player I (5) vs Player J (10)

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Re: Tennis Tipping #5C - Nussloch - Monday OOP posted #106 due 10AM CET time!

Adey,

OTTE is playing against MARTI in the quali final round.
So I won the R32 anyway BUT the important here is to clarify this rule, ok?

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Re: Tennis Tipping #5C - Nussloch - Monday OOP posted #106 due 10AM CET time!

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Adey,

OTTE is playing against MARTI in the quali final round.
So I won the R32 anyway BUT the important here is to clarify this rule, ok?
I shall ask the rest of the Board to give their opinion on this.

I am reading the 'the best ranked players (entry list rankings)' as being the best/next highest on the entry list (because that person would be next in line if it was someone getting the next available place in the draw if it was a case of one space in the draw and just one person not sending and that space in the draw would be filled in the order of the entry list ranking, not ranking)

Whether that should be best in actual ranking may need clarification for future - and it's possible I may be incorrect on this.

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Re: Tennis Tipping #5C - Nussloch - Monday OOP posted #106 due 10AM CET time!

If anyone finds the results to today's matches, please link me. The offical site has Tuesday's OOP already out.
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Re: Tennis Tipping #5C - Nussloch - Monday OOP posted #106 due 10AM CET time!

If i had played qualifying.. I would have won by 7!

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Re: Tennis Tipping #5C - Nussloch - Monday OOP posted #106 due 10AM CET time!

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If anyone finds the results to today's matches, please link me. The offical site has Tuesday's OOP already out.
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Thanks Rik. looks like most are final except one match.. I'll have results and tuesday oop shortly.
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Re: Tennis Tipping #5C - Nussloch - Monday OOP posted #106 due 10AM CET time!

of course the way this tournament is going, I'm still missing 3 matches with no scores.. OY
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If anyone finds the results to today's matches, please link me. The offical site has Tuesday's OOP already out.
I got some results on bet365.com. They transmitted courts 1 and 2. But nothing about court3...

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Re: Tennis Tipping #5C - Nussloch Futures : Hone your skills for the future indoors

Darn, in the old draw I would have won (over Renaud).

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Darn, in the old draw I would have won (over Renaud).



Don't promise something like that!
But shoudn't you still play Renaud because Sander. got a WO? (according to AdeyC)

Edit: You still play Renaud
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Re: Tennis Tipping #5C - Nussloch - Monday OOP posted #106 due 10AM CET time!

Here's the diffs with 3 missing matches

Singles diffs



02:03 | (1) orangehat (CAN) vs. Superior1 (CRO) -
03:00 | Sander. (NED) vs. jrm (SLO) - Missing picks from jrm
02:03 | RNW (SUI) vs. LutherReigns (SUI) -
02:02 | Baink (POL) vs. (LL) Murraynizer (XXX) - GROLL, ROY, OTTE vs. MANNAPOV, OFFERMANS , GIESSE

02:03 | (3) Renaud (KAZ) vs. Yves. (NED) -
02:02 | JMG (MON) vs. August (XXX) - MANNAPOV, OFFERMANS , GIESSE vs. GROLL, ROY, OTTE
00:02 | geangr (BRA) vs. Mahqz (GER) - Missing picks from geangr
03:03 | Ekin (XXX) vs. (8) RHB1993 (GER) - OFFERMANS vs. ROY

02:03 | (6) andrijagajic (SRB) vs. Sempere (POL) -
03:02 | hahaha7 (CRO) vs. (Q) gabrieltufao (XXX) - ROY vs. OFFERMANS SR Differences: GROLL 2-0 v 2-1, ROY 2-0 vs. OFFERMANS 2-1
02:02 | Dexter (BRA) vs. chenhw (XXX) - SR Differences: OTTE 2-0 v 2-1
04:02 | (Q) tealeaves (SUI) vs. (4) Kery (GER) - OFFERMANS , GIESSE vs. ROY, OTTE SR Differences: OFFERMANS 2-0 vs. ROY 2-0, GIESSE 2-0 vs. OTTE 2-0

02:02 | (LL) duarteln (POR) vs. Elirj70 (BRA) - GIESSE vs. OTTE
03:03 | CoolyBri (GER) vs. buji (IND) - SR Differences: GROLL 2-0 v 2-1
03:01 | Rik. (NED) vs. (Q) duda6060 (POR) - SR Differences: GROLL 2-0 v 2-1, ROY 2-0 v 2-1, OTTE 2-0 v 2-1
00:02 | Ajk822 (USA) vs. (2) KittyTennis (USA) - Missing picks from Ajk822


Doubles Diffs

04:00 | (1) Elirj70/Dexter (BRA/BRA) vs. Bye
06:06 | Sander./Rik. (NED/NED) vs. Yves./LutherReigns (NED/SUI) - SR Differences: ROY 2-0 v. ROY 2-1, OTTE 2-0 v. OTTE 2-1
04:00 | (4) Mahqz/KittyTennis (GER/USA) vs. Bye
03:06 | duda6060/gabrieltufao (POR/XXX) vs. Superior1/hahaha7 (CRO/CRO) - OFFERMANS vs. ROY SR Differences: GROLL 2-1 +2 v. GROLL 2-0 +2, ROY 2-1 v. ROY 2-0, OFFERMANS 2-1 v. ROY 2-0, OTTE 2-1 v. OTTE 2-0

02:05 | Renaud/geangr (KAZ/BRA) vs. Murraynizer/Ekin (XXX/XXX) - Missing picks from geangr
00:06 | Bye vs. (3) RHB1993/Buji (GER/IND)
04:00 | Kery/duarteln (GER/POR) vs. diego36arg/Ajk822 (ARG/USA) - Missing picks from diego36arg Missing picks from Ajk822
00:03 | Bye vs. (2) CoolyBri/Toooom (GER/FRA)


I think I'll post OOP for Tuesday and then finish results after.
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Re: Tennis Tipping #5C - Nussloch - Monday OOP posted #106 due 10AM CET time!

Results:
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