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Roleplay Andy Roddick

Your name is Andy Roddick. You are in the finals of a hard court tournament. You are down a set to the number 1 player in the world Roger Federer. (Best 2 out of 3)

Role-play Andy Roddick...what do you do to win this match?

i.e. How would you put Andy's talents against Roger's...What would your game plan be?

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blast forehands to his backhand side. and play unbelievable tennis throughout the match

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I was thinking more along the lines of force Federer to get into baseline rallies. Then come to net just to mix things up. Basically, you can't let Federer dictate play, even if it means unforced errors you have to move Federer around and keep him off his game. That's how Nalbandian beat him by consistantly moving Fed around and not letting him dicatate play. He doesn't play good defense(well as compared to the rest of his game)...

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He's got to serve the match of his life, and return the match of his life too. Be on the aggressive, mix it up, come to the net, keep Roger guessing.... in addition to the things you already mentioned

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He's got to serve the match of his life, and return the match of his life too. Be on the aggressive, mix it up, come to the net, keep Roger guessing.... in addition to the things you already mentioned
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nah, Nalbandian won vs Federer by playing cat and mouse. he let Roger go on the inititative, and that's not really Roger's way of playing all the time. David drew out tons of errors from Roger. moving Roger around is good and all, but he can smack some awesome shots on the run

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nah, Nalbandian won vs Federer by playing cat and mouse. he let Roger go on the inititative, and that's not really Roger's way of playing all the time. David drew out tons of errors from Roger. moving Roger around is good and all, but he can smack some awesome shots on the run
So you think play defense? Let Fed go crazy on offense on you. Just pray he errors more than he hits winners?

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no, Roddick doesn't play that way. Roddick's all out offence, but if he's stuck playing defence, he can hold up very well. David plays that way, giving different speeds on the ball, throwing loopy shots, slices, different actions on the ball, all at the same time staying relatively in defence mode. that forces Federer to step it up and hit winners right away. Roger isnt used to that, therefore erros pile up. i wouldn't say Roddick can't play like that vs Roger, but it's useless because he'll have more trouble trying to play that type of tennis, than actually beating Roger. bottom line is Roddick must play an extremely well played match, and it wouldn't help if the holes in his game were patched up a little bit more

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no, Roddick doesn't play that way. Roddick's all out offence, but if he's stuck playing defence, he can hold up very well. David plays that way, giving different speeds on the ball, throwing loopy shots, slices, different actions on the ball, all at the same time staying relatively in defence mode. that forces Federer to step it up and hit winners right away. Roger isnt used to that, therefore erros pile up. i wouldn't say Roddick can't play like that vs Roger, but it's useless because he'll have more trouble trying to play that type of tennis, than actually beating Roger. bottom line is Roddick must play an extremely well played match, and it wouldn't help if the holes in his game were patched up a little bit more
That's a very good post Naldo. I think all of that is very true. You have to play within your game. That's one of the first rules on how to win Tennis. You just have to be able to adjust to your opponent. I think Andy has to do that to beat Roger. Andre did it to beat Pete. This is how he will grow as a player. By finding how to beat Roger, he will become a great player.

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Well as Brad said many times and even quite recently, you can't focus on just beating one player. If you do, you forget about all the other ones who can beat you, too and it turns into an obsession.

I actually think the biggest thing Andy needs to do with Roger is get on court BELIEVING he can win. If he can do that and really believe it, I think some of the other stuff might fall into place.

Talking about playing offensively and defensively, one of the things Andy's improved upon greatly in the recent months is playing defensively, hanging around til the chance comes his way, etc. And I think this will help him a looooooooong way throughout the years.

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Well as Brad said many times and even quite recently, you can't focus on just beating one player. If you do, you forget about all the other ones who can beat you, too and it turns into an obsession.

I actually think the biggest thing Andy needs to do with Roger is get on court BELIEVING he can win. If he can do that and really believe it, I think some of the other stuff might fall into place.

Talking about playing offensively and defensively, one of the things Andy's improved upon greatly in the recent months is playing defensively, hanging around til the chance comes his way, etc. And I think this will help him a looooooooong way throughout the years.
I think Fed's game is the one that stands between Roddy and number 1..

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Fed's game, yea, because if Roger keeps winning he'll be #1 but I don't know that it's related to Andy. If that makes sense. I mean Fed will be the guy who keeps a LOT of guys from #1, not just Andy... maybe that's a better way of saying it.

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Here's a question for you all:

What is it about Andy's game that allows him to beat Nalbandian (who can beat Federer) but doesn't allow him to also beat Federer (whom Nalby owns)?

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I take my bottle of Ether and pour a small amount into all of Roger's hand towels when he is not looking. Then I let loose a few of my red fire ants in Roger's spare sneakers. After rubbing a few leaves of poison ivy along his spare racket handles, I then warm-up and pound my forehand on the lines all match long.
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Well first of all tangy, as Andy has admitted himself, a couple of the times he beat David, David was far from his best. the USO and Basel matches were really tight and ultimately could've gone either way, as could the Kooyong one for that matter.

First of all, Davis is not intimidated by Roger and going in, that is a huge advantage. Andy is intimidated by Roger, the way he talks about him being the most talented, etc etc whatever whatever. I think that's partially where it starts.

Plus, Federer is the type of guy who can give Andy problems. He returns lots of serves (look what he did to Andy and Flip at Wimby and Marat at the AO!!!) and gets them into play, he hits every shot in the book, mixes it up, etc.

I mean there's no exact answer why the head to heads are not transitive LMAO. But it's the whole idea of matchups and contrasting styles and whatnot that makes the sport so interesting.

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