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Andy becomes Stefankinstien's monster!! (Andy's coach thread)

I know this is a bit of old gossip but, I heard Paul was watching Andy's matches at DC, and we all know Paul isn't working with Tim anymore.

Does anyone else think this thing with Andy's brother as his coach, can and won't last...

I strongly believe that before the hc season, or maybe even grass court, depending on how things go...we may see a name coach for Andy. I think that's a good idea because a new coach besides giving Andy a better game plan and improved play...just may give him that cofidence/boost he's been searching for.

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Re: Paul Annacone to Coach Andy? (Andy's Coach Thread)

I think he'd be a good coach for Andy but I think Andy's content with John for at least the foreseeable future.

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Re: Paul Annacone to Coach Andy? (Andy's Coach Thread)

I hate John as the coach because I think Andy needs someone with alittle more insight. It's just stupid for him, ya know...he does alot of things so professional, I want to see a real coach for him. I am almost certain he wouldn't be losing matches to nobodies likes he is, if he had a coach that could scout and game plan like I know Annacone or any top guy could do.

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Re: Paul Annacone to Coach Andy? (Andy's Coach Thread)

Paul is overrated. He sat by and let Pete let his full court game go down the hill. Pete once said all he did was "watch my ball toss".

Still, Paul could help Andy out more on his net game but I would love for Andy to take Rafter or Stich up on their offers. It would be hard for me to root against Andy if he had Rafter in his box.
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I hate John as the coach because I think Andy needs someone with alittle more insight. It's just stupid for him, ya know...he does alot of things so professional, I want to see a real coach for him. I am almost certain he wouldn't be losing matches to nobodies likes he is, if he had a coach that could scout and game plan like I know Annacone or any top guy could do.
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I think Andy is happy with the comfort and peace john brings. I think he has to get out of his mental slump befoe he can think about his game. And I don't think his current play is John's fault at all. Brad and Dean are both great coaches, and they scout very well. They couldn't help him, it's not a matter of coaching right now I firmly believe that and don't feel like getting into that diatribe again. But Andy's had good coaches, they didn't help, so I don't see any reason to believe that bringing Annacone in would somehow miraculously help him. Plus, John is a real coach, he has coached top top juniors and runs his own academy. It's not like he's a chump just b/c he's Andy's brother.

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Re: Paul Annacone to Coach Andy? (Andy's Coach Thread)

If Paul came onboard part-time that would be great. Someone needs to show Andy how to get to the net after he serves.

And brother John is not useless; he's helped Andy overcome some mental blocks and is working on rebuilding his confidence again, which seems to be working quite well as we saw at Davis Cup.

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I think Andy is happy with the comfort and peace john brings. I think he has to get out of his mental slump befoe he can think about his game. And I don't think his current play is John's fault at all. Brad and Dean are both great coaches, and they scout very well. They couldn't help him, it's not a matter of coaching right now I firmly believe that and don't feel like getting into that diatribe again. But Andy's had good coaches, they didn't help, so I don't see any reason to believe that bringing Annacone in would somehow miraculously help him. Plus, John is a real coach, he has coached top top juniors and runs his own academy. It's not like he's a chump just b/c he's Andy's brother.
He can't fix his mind without improving his game. His mind didn't just disappear, it got hammered away by losses he experienced in the last two years.
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I think Paul would be a good coach for Andy, but I would like to see Andy stick with John for awhile.

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If Paul came onboard part-time that would be great. Someone needs to show Andy how to get to the net after he serves.

And brother John is not useless; he's helped Andy overcome some mental blocks and is working on rebuilding his confidence again, which seems to be working quite well as we saw at Davis Cup.
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I think Paul would be a good coach for Andy, but I would like to see Andy stick with John for awhile.
Stich or Rafter. Just shell out the money Andy, they are worth it.
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I think Andy is happy with the comfort and peace john brings. I think he has to get out of his mental slump befoe he can think about his game. And I don't think his current play is John's fault at all.
I agree. Andy looks much more relaxed and happy these days and I'm sure the comfort level of having family around helps. Being comfortable, mental-wise, goes a long way towards being comfortable and relaxed on the court again.

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Plus, John is a real coach, he has coached top top juniors and runs his own academy. It's not like he's a chump just b/c he's Andy's brother.
It's annoying how people toss John off, like he were nothing more than a nepotistic choice. John's resume clearly shows that he has a lot of tennis knowledge and experience and it's been said more than once that John was a better player in his day than Andy was at the same age.

I mean, if we're going by credentials, Brad Gilbert was not a major player on tour either so why would his expertise as coach be any worse or better?

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I agree. Andy looks much more relaxed and happy these days and I'm sure the comfort level of having family around helps. Being comfortable, mental-wise, goes a long way towards being comfortable and relaxed on the court again.


It's annoying how people toss John off, like he were nothing more than a nepotistic choice. John's resume clearly shows that he has a lot of tennis knowledge and experience and it's been said more than once that John was a better player in his day than Andy was at the same age.

I mean, if we're going by credentials, Brad Gilbert was not a major player on tour either so why would his expertise as coach be any worse or better?
Brad won 20 titles and made 20 other finals. YOU ARE COMPARING JOHN TO HIM???????????

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Re: Paul Annacone to Coach Andy? (Andy's Coach Thread)

I think james is a perfect example that coaches, not say that they don't matter, but...you know...lol
andy just needs to work on his head first and confidence, and any coach that can do that, even if it's cutmax, will be a fine choice for me. [:

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Stich would be good. Maybe he could show Andy how to adapt his big serve game to be successful on clay.
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Re: Paul Annacone to Coach Andy? (Andy's Coach Thread)

Honestly I don't want Andy thinking too much on court, he's at his best when just playing by instinct.
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