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Re: Paul Annacone to Coach Andy? (Andy's Coach Thread)

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okay so, now I can read this

I mean yea maybe Brad was the right guy at the time, but he's clearly not the right guy anymore, so why discuss it? It's moot now, no?

If we're gonna talk about Andy revisiting past coaches, I think Tarik would be a better discussion, considering the complaint people had about him was that he was too intense and fired up and that's what we're talking about Andy needing more of again.
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what's this thing about coming to the net?!! Find him a good coach who'll get him to hit that thunderbolt forehand again like in USO 04 (that match against JJ was so stupid... Andy didn't lose it because of his game plan, their game plans were mirrored in fact, he lost it cuz he couldn't take triple bp and can't hold from 40-0)
BRING GILBERT BACK!!!! (those of you may disagree but Brad didn't ruin his game like Dean did and he's always frank and open and willing to tell his player when he SUCKS) Goldfine did NOTHING to improve Andy's game whatsoever... the net play and variety thing... NOT WORKING!
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or he could take Robert Landsdorp (almighty producer of legends)... but dunno if Andy'll like the strict discipline style of his tho...
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For the 48392084930280 time...Andy needs a shrink...not a coach!!! Andy has enough discipline...I really do believe that. Deb has said it, but I'll say it again...he needs confidence in his game and his game plan, and a coach can help with that, but really it is between the ears!

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I'll say it again

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I'll say it again

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I'll say it again. I don't agree!

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Lenient, mediocre, condescending cute coaches were great!
I'm 11 years old too!

Rodd won junior matches when he had much weaker serves 12 years ago.
He won 100 matches and had no loss at age 10.
He learned a few techniques from a coach. There was no fitness problem back then. 4 years later, it was a different story. Then, he hesitated about turning professional until he won 1999 Orange Bowl, Easter Bowl, Aus Open and US Open. He didn't really improve until the start of the year 2003.

Sadly, he decided to be satisfied with staying at a poor physical and mental state.

Eat junk food, sleep around, act as a slave for your loved ones, and use exhibitions, the ATP schedule, TV Shows, Award Shows, parties and tough matches with top players as excuses for his chokes. He certainly whined to reporters and umpires! Insecurity to the max.

At 23, and 3 years of failure, there's no problem with footwork, physical dexterity, coaching, discipline and work ethics.... Sure.

The serve, forehand and hapless attitude became a joke.

Hey, at least we can see Davis Cup where there's no blame when the team loses. Uh, maybe Andy's lack of talent and mind receive blame.
After all, it's ok to lose to Agassi and Federer, but it's not ok to lose to Roddick.... Right, Blake?
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But Heya? Did they not just win the last Davis Cup tie and Andy was the hero? BTW would you marry me?

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Re: Paul Annacone to Coach Andy? (Andy's Coach Thread)

Am I missing something here? I thought Annacone was Henman's coach on a part-time basis. When did that partnership end?
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Am I missing something here? I thought Annacone was Henman's coach on a part-time basis. When did that partnership end?
Ask Fumus, he seems to have the mysterious answer. Your impression was the same as mine

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I know this is a bit of old gossip but, I heard Paul was watching Andy's matches at DC, and we all know Paul isn't working with Tim anymore.
I didn't know that....

Anyways, I really don't think who Andy has a coach seems to make the damn bit of difference to his performances at the moment. Fundamentally, everything lies with Andy, obvious but true. If he wants to be a cornball, cheese dome all his life, I doubt that Tim's coach (who Tim needs very much so don't go giving him to new players, um) or any other coach is the definitive answer at the moment. So, in conclusion I think what I really wanted to say is that Andy could work with any 'Paul, (brother)John or Harry' as far as I'm concerned because he has far more issues that are doubted to be helped by poor old Paul who seems to like to be a figure very much in the background.

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Re: Paul Annacone to Coach Andy? (Andy's Coach Thread)

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Deb's right, Fumus. The correct phrase is "alotta things."

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How do you think he'd manage without a coach at all? Federer did for a whole year, now Murray is trying it for a while, why not Roddick?
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Andy doesn't have Roger's game to go without a coach. Murray is just trying to be a rebel and he will likely suffer for his stubborness. There is a A LOT of wisdom in Stich and Rafter and if they want to help Andy he should take them up on their offer and good for Fummy for defending having a star player coach Andy. It would show THAT ANDY DOES CARE because he is hiring someone outside the USTA arena and they could really help him with his net skills and clay movement. They deserve a shot and I think Andy would really listen to them because he would be in a bit of awe of them since they are special talents and had great careers.
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Some stuff I had posted to my blog a while ago, this looks like a good place to dump it

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Another addition to Team Roddick?

Tennis Week floated the idea out that Andy is lobbying to get Paul Annacone to coach him on a part-time basis. Annacone is the former coach of Pete Sampras and current part-time coach of Tim Henman (what do these two have in common? Brilliant volleying skills. Hmm…)


Annacone, an aggressive serve-and-volleyer who would attack net off opponents' first and second serves, would be a valuable addition to Roddick's team prior to the start of the grass court season. While the laid-back Annacone is not the fiery personality some feel Roddick requires to pump him up, Annacone could help Roddick both technically — with Roddick's volley and particularly his backhand slice approach — and tactically in helping Roddick improve his point construction. Annacone, who briefly served as a coaching consultant for Jennifer Capriati, is adept at teaching grass-court tactics.
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Jon Wertheim thinks Andy may finally have found the right coach for his skills in brother John. From this week's SI mailbag:

With Andy Roddick's new coaching change (brother John), dare we say that Andy is at a crossroads? I know Dean Goldfine, and if Roddick cannot "get" it with Dean on board, he may never. -- Mike, McAllen, Texas

Lots of questions about Roddick this week. Usually when you hear that a close family member is coaching a player, you roll your eyes. Too often it has the ring of a parent or older sibling unwilling to give control and money to someone else. And the players rationalize it: I'm choosing comfort and familiarity over expertise. But often they know they can run roughshod over family in the way they couldn't over someone unrelated. If I were 20 and Harold Solomon had told me to do extra laps, I'd be off and running. If I were 20 and my dad/coach had told me to run extra laps, I'd be a lot less inclined to listen.

Anyway, I think this could be the exception. John Roddick was probably a better junior player than his younger brother. He was an all-America at Georgia and may well have been a pro had he not come down with a back injury. He's been running an academy in Texas. Clearly there's tennis know-how here. There's familiarity with Andy's game. And because he is significantly older perhaps -- in that Michael/Carl Chang kind of way -- they'll have some semblance of a professional relationship.

Goldfine is a popular and well-respected, but Roddick's results had tailed off on his watch. Doesn't mean the guy is to blame. Doesn't mean the guy wasn't good at his job. But it must have been getting increasingly hard to justify keeping the guy on the payroll. Several of you, incidentally, inquired about swallowing pride and rehiring Brad Gilbert. Nick and Jessica will get back together before that happens.

What's John Roddick objective? Getting Roddick to improve his court positioning should be high on the list. If you have a 100-mph fastball but you're pitching from second base and not the pitchers mound, you're a lot less effective. But a lot of the problem is identity. The free-swinging Roddick, who ruled the roost in the summer of 2003, had a swagger that didn't desert him. He whipped lasers. He fired his serve. He took chances. He dictated points and didn't mess around with backhands. Sometimes it seems that Roddick is so intent on proving that he's a well-rounded player, that he forsakes his weapons. It might be helpful if he said simply, "My game is what it is, I need to play it."
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Am I missing something here? I thought Annacone was Henman's coach on a part-time basis. When did that partnership end?
It didn't.

btw, nice to see you around these parts again Jez. Bet you can't wait to troll these boards when the boys start playing the clay.

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