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Yeah, playing charity events when he should be practising hard on the red stuff is frustrating but I guess he has his priorities straight. He probably knows that going deep in Rome is a shot in the dark. But then again, why play at all? Oh well, maybe he will play better when he has nothing to lose. Maybe we will see a rejuvenated Andy at Queens.
Well the Bryans are doing it too, and they do have a chance to go deep at Rome, and Hamburg, and RG, and wherever else they play I guess if they were to leave right from Charleston and go to Rome, that's 4 days before the tourney starts and is probably enough time to get acclimatized and all, but I guarantee Federer and Nadal will be there before then. We could never ask him to give up charity events, he loves them and it's who he is and it's for great causes.. it's just too bad the event wasn't just a couple days earlier

The problem isn't so much the charity event as the fact that I'm sure he's been practicing on green and not red clay since Houston.


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Well the Bryans are doing it too, and they do have a chance to go deep at Rome, and Hamburg, and RG, and wherever else they play I guess if they were to leave right from Charleston and go to Rome, that's 4 days before the tourney starts and is probably enough time to get acclimatized and all, but I guarantee Federer and Nadal will be there before then. We could never ask him to give up charity events, he loves them and it's who he is and it's for great causes.. it's just too bad the event wasn't just a couple days earlier

The problem isn't so much the charity event as the fact that I'm sure he's been practicing on green and not red clay since Houston.


Yes Ryan he is playing with Robby and the twins for the US. I hope they get Chile, Argentina, and Spain in their group so Andy has to play good players
Sure, that is why I said that he has his priorities straight. Playing for a good cause is a noble thing to do but it is still a little annoying that he won't be in Europe sooner. It is not just match practice on clay. He has to acclimatize himself to Europe and 4 days just doesn't seem enough.

IMHO, WTT should not even be considered as practice for RG.

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Sure, that is why I said that he has his priorities straight. Playing for a good cause is a noble thing to do but it is still a little annoying that he won't be in Europe sooner. It is not just match practice on clay. He has to acclimatize himself to Europe and 4 days just doesn't seem enough.
Sigh, I do agree. But we just have to accept it I think.
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IMHO, WTT should not even be considered as practice for RG.
It's hard to say. Some of the competition is really good. if andy were to play Gaudio, Massu, Volandri, Nalby, Ferrer, etc. I think that's good preparation and better than he'd get if he played St. Polten or whatever it's gonna be this year. On the other hand you sacrifice getting to Paris early so then you have like no time to get used to Paris before you play - but a couple years ago Andy got to Paris mega-early and it didn't help him so maybe it doesn't matter at all.

well unless and until Andy really dedicates his mind to doing well on clay nothing is gonna matter at all

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Well the Bryans are doing it too, and they do have a chance to go deep at Rome, and Hamburg, and RG, and wherever else they play I guess if they were to leave right from Charleston and go to Rome, that's 4 days before the tourney starts and is probably enough time to get acclimatized and all, but I guarantee Federer and Nadal will be there before then. We could never ask him to give up charity events, he loves them and it's who he is and it's for great causes.. it's just too bad the event wasn't just a couple days earlier

The problem isn't so much the charity event as the fact that I'm sure he's been practicing on green and not red clay since Houston.


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Is it on Clay? What made Andy want to play it? I know Robby does like every year...

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Is it on Clay? What made Andy want to play it? I know Robby does like every year...
Of course it's on clay, it's the week before the French Open.. I don't know why Andy's playing. He played in 2002. Money? Guaranteed matchplay right before RG? Sadly, I am not inside Andy's head

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Of course it's on clay, it's the week before the French Open.. I don't know why Andy's playing. He played in 2002. Money? Guaranteed matchplay right before RG? Sadly, I am not inside Andy's head
Maybe he's feeling extra patriotic, ya know and now he's gonna play the poor man's davis cup too!!

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I think it's better for Andy to play the week leading up to Roland Garros so that he enters there more match tough and with recent clay matches under his belt, rather than having the week off to practice, etc. We all know that he won't have a deep run there anyways and isn't as concentrated on winning that slam than the other 3 (where he has a legit chance of winning any of the 3) so that week of training on the clay and stuff just seems like a waste of time. IMO I see this as a good thing, so straight from playing this world team whatever it's called, then going straight to Paris to get RG started is a good idea. He'll be gone by the time the QF roll over (or maybe pigs will fly and Andy will make it that far ) so an extra week of rest prior to a Slam, particularly this one, wont be as important.

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I think it's better for Andy to play the week leading up to Roland Garros so that he enters there more match tough and with recent clay matches under his belt, rather than having the week off to practice, etc. We all know that he won't have a deep run there anyways and isn't as concentrated on winning that slam than the other 3 (where he has a legit chance of winning any of the 3) so that week of training on the clay and stuff just seems like a waste of time. IMO I see this as a good thing, so straight from playing this world team whatever it's called, then going straight to Paris to get RG started is a good idea. He'll be gone by the time the QF roll over (or maybe pigs will fly and Andy will make it that far ) so an extra week of rest prior to a Slam, particularly this one, wont be as important.
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Giving back to the community is best when you can't care less about winning 2 matches at the US Open. If I'm not mistaken, maturity and genius are traits of Roddick folks and friends.
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AT least money will help lessen the pain of having losing head-to-head records.
The 1-10 and 1-6 records vs. Andy's fave outdoor hardcrt. and grass players,
and 1-3 records vs clay players are extraordinary.
Next time, he'll crash out of Wimbledon 2nd round after avoiding sidespin slicing tactics and continuing with moonballs and 130-155 mph serves.
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"do it for the money ande!!!"

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conundrum

1. Lie to Andy about winning Slams
but do nothing for him. Eat Cheetos...relax on the boat.

2. Tell him to donate money and make sponsors happy,
but don't give him a rare opportunity to become a legend....after
all....let ANdy believe he's stupid and make him stay at the low level he's at.
Knowledgeable fans and Andy know what he's paid to do--
Have real coach support and Never-say-die, tiger killing prey tennis.

Family, American Express and friends, however, live in another galaxy....they're all about team work and money!!!!
You see...rich Andy won't give much of his own money to the world....
but poor, middle-classed folks PAY $$$$$$ to HIS AR Foundation and EXHIBITION PROMOTERS.
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Giving back to the community is best when you can't care less about winning 2 matches at the US Open.
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heya...
No I don't think he'll sink as low as to suck on grass too.... he'd have retired by then
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and no way he'll lose on grass to cheap players with that kind of serve speed.... well except to that Italian Broccoli guy.... but otherwise he'll have a free pass to the SF at least (I think) or (I hope he doesn't draw Marat)
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