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Re: "The Great Indoors" Starring Andy S. Roddick a Champion Tennis player (Indoor thread)

He won a slam in each of the years, that's a big as you can get if you're not Roger. I'm sure Andy would be happy in just winning a slam a year too.
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He won a slam in each of the years, that's a big as you can get if you're not Roger. I'm sure Andy would be happy in just winning a slam a year too.

I also think that Andy would be happy if he would achieve that. But maybe the press doesn´t criticise Lleyton that much, because he always was more of a consistent player who would go very far in every tourney he entered, without winning let´s say 4 big titles per year. Lleyton hasn´t lost his consistency, while Andy´s results are full off ups and downs (finals in Cincy, first round loss at the US Open). But maybe the australian press isn´t as bad as the american press. I don´t know because I don´t read australian newspapers.

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oh my you have Ayrton Senna in your sig, aww.
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I also think that Andy would be happy if he would achieve that. But maybe the press doesn´t criticise Lleyton that much, because he always was more of a consistent player who would go very far in every tourney he entered, without winning let´s say 4 big titles per year. Lleyton hasn´t lost his consistency, while Andy´s results are full off ups and downs (finals in Cincy, first round loss at the US Open). But maybe the australian press isn´t as bad as the american press. I don´t know because I don´t read australian newspapers.
The Australian press can get pretty harsh, but not in the same way. They're more intrusive, I thinkg, but I haven't seen much when he loses early or loses badly or something. I dunno, I don't read about Lleyton if I can help it

The thing is, Andy wasn't this inconsistent until the past few months. Even earlier this year he did not lose early. His first early loss was Miami and that was an injury retirement. After that he didn't have an early loss until clay (which he will always have, unfortunately) and after that not until Montreal. I wouldn't say his results are that inconsistent, it's just that a lot of the losses Andy has had this year, he could've (and many of them should've) won, so it makes it seem worse. It's not like hewitt hasn't had his fair share of really random shock early losses.

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i find the aussie press to either:

a) pretend as though lleyton never played (and therefore never lost)
b) start making excuses for lleyton's performance

the american press just bags the hell outta andy/james/whoever lost.

that's what i find anyway
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interesting. Thanks Ellen

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What was his record last year? I know he was doing well and then he lost to Max, he beat Safin indoors...who in my opinion is the best indoor player.
Beating Safin in Paris would be a measure because Safin always plays so well there.

Overall, Andy by far has not yet reached what he is capable to do in these European Indoor Masters. I think he didn't make a final yet, let alone a win.

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Overall, Andy by far has not yet reached what he is capable to do in these European Indoor Masters. I think he didn't make a final yet, let alone a win.
Yeah, that's correct. He's never done well in Madrid for some strange reason and he made the Semis in Paris a couple years ago but lost to Henman in two tough TBs He can certainly do better this year.

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i find the aussie press to either:

a) pretend as though lleyton never played (and therefore never lost)
b) start making excuses for lleyton's performance

the american press just bags the hell outta andy/james/whoever lost.

that's what i find anyway

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Re: "The Great Indoors" Starring Andy S. Roddick a Champion Tennis player (Indoor thread)

Com'on Dear!!!
You had never played great in this season.
Now it's a chance to enjoy the indoor tourney this year.

Andy must get enough scores in these matches so that he can get qualified to TMC. I'm waiting for him in Shanghai.
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Com'on Dear!!!
You had never played great in this season.
Now it's a chance to enjoy the indoor tourney this year.

Andy must get enough scores in these matches so that he can get qualified to TMC. I'm waiting for him in Shanghai.

I don´t think that Andy has to worry about that. He has a very large gap to the other players and I´m sure that he´ll end the year at least in the top 4.


I wonder, why he wasn´t able to achieve at least one title during the european indoor season. But I think in general, he hasn´t had that much success in Europe (well, except for the grass court season, a title in St. Poelten and a semi in Paris and Rome). That´s nothing compared to his achievements in north america. I wonder how his european win/loss record looks like.

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I wonder, why he wasn´t able to achieve at least one title during the european indoor season. But I think in general, he hasn´t had that much success in Europe (well, except for the grass court season, a title in St. Poelten and a semi in Paris and Rome). That´s nothing compared to his achievements in north america. I wonder how his european win/loss record looks like.
I think the problem with the indoor season is that it also comes directly after the summer US HC season and usually a davis cup tie. So you also have the fact that Andy has expended a TON of energy to do well in the summer HC season and DC and the USO and by the time the indoor season comes around, he's tired. That's for sure what happened in 2003 - when he had a real shot at winning Paris. So this year, he hasn't played nearly as much so hopefully he will have more energy. We'll see what happens.

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Don't forget Andy spent a lot of energy at the world suite in Vegas. He must be tired.
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