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Hate to bring up this thread, especially after Roddick's dissappointing loss but...

I hate to bring this thread up, especially with the dissappointing loss he had yesterday and how everyone is just trying to get through it, but here is my opinion on Roddick's game. I haven't watched him too much, but I've made a few conclusions which I would like for you guys to correct me and add your own opinions. Roddick's game needs some serious improvement if he ever wants to be number 1 again. I thought this deserved its own thread because I wanted to get everyone’s opinion. Also I'm not here to bash Roddick as he is my favorite player.

1. Forehand- If you guys have noticed he has started to cut down on his swing because his older swing took a long time to go through. I feel this is a good move, but that he isn't getting the same amount of power as he used to. Now I may be wrong on this but it seems like now since he has shortened his backswing he has lost some of his power because he doesn't have the same racket acceleration as Federer and others. Don't get me wrong he still hits it pretty hard, but I don't know if it is as hard as before. Of course everyone knows placement is sometimes more important than speed but when he was doing really well, he was really blasting the forehand. Please correct me on this if I am wrong. Also if you noticed his forehand in his matches at Roland Garros, they had a lot of topspin, but they weren't that deep and they didn't move through the clay that well like Nadals does. I don't think he had to change his game that much for clay. All he needed was better movement, thinking, and patience because nobody changes their game that much for each surface.
2. Backhand- This has always been a problem. I think the problem is Roddick's form. He needs to bend his elbows in order to hit better backhands. Roddick needs to work on his hitting his backhand deeper and hitting his backhand down the line because this really affects the rest of his game especially when he has to keep running around.
3. Volleys-these are improving but they can always get better. I don't know why but Roddick likes to hit shots straight at people to much especially while he is at the net when he should go for the other side. Also his approach shots are sometimes not the greatest and he comes in during bad times.
4. Serve- I know he was sacrificing power for accuracy but now it has gotten a bit out of hand before he was sacrificing accuracy for power and he needs to find the right balance. He should never be outaced that badly by anyone especially a clay courter though Acususo had a good serve.
5. Fitness Mentally/Physically- His fitness physically is pretty good but it can always get better. He needs to work mentally more. It seems like he doesn't have enjoy the game as much and it seems like he has self doubts. He can't close out a match and he can't even win tiebreakers anymore. Tiebreaks are made for bigger serves because they can afford to be aggressive on the opponents service which leads me to my next point. Also Roddick never seems to have a plan besides hitting it hard, but he didn't even do that here at Roland Garros. Roddick needs to be aggressive. He can't be defensive because he doesn't have the fitness for that. Also Roddick doesn't adjust that well during a match. I don't know how many times he hit a second serve or shot to Acususo's backhand when he should have tried hitting them to the forehand to see what it could do.
6. Service return-why does Roddick stand so far back? He can do it once in a while, but now it has become a habit. Roddick also needs to be handle first serves and second serves better and he should be more aggressive on those instead of just waiting for his own service game because he relies on his service game too much and as shown his service game is starting to become a little unreliable.
7. Roddick needs to stand closer to the baseline. I realize it was a quick fix with Gilbert and that they were going to work on this in the winter, but Roddick stands too far back which makes his shots less effective.
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Also if you noticed his forehand in his matches at Roland Garros, they had a lot of topspin, but they weren't that deep and they didn't move through the clay that well like Nadals does. I don't think he had to change his game that much for clay. All he needed was better movement, thinking, and patience because nobody changes their game that much for each surface.
Apparently this was intentional. Well, perhaps not intentional to make it not as deep, but intentional to put more spin on - they added some weight all around his racquet for the clay season. So, while I don't disagree with you, I'd like to reserve more judgment until we see what he does at grass season
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2. Backhand- This has always been a problem. I think the problem is Roddick's form. He needs to bend his elbows in order to hit better backhands. Roddick needs to work on his hitting his backhand deeper and hitting his backhand down the line because this really affects the rest of his game especially when he has to keep running around.
I forget which tourney it was but at some point last year, commentators were talking about his backhand and how it's too late to completely change it. Sure, he can improve it (and he definitely has) and sure, there can always be more work to be done, but he's never going to have a great backhand. I think that's just a reality. But definitely he needs to keep improving it, and I think that he has.
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3. Volleys-these are improving but they can always get better. I don't know why but Roddick likes to hit shots straight at people to much especially while he is at the net when he should go for the other side. Also his approach shots are sometimes not the greatest and he comes in during bad times.
YES. going right back at his opponent. I can't count how many times yesterday during his match some of us in a little MSN chat were like "OMG ANDY DO NOT GO SIDE TO SIDE GO BACK BEHIND HIM" - so I think he could work on this both in his volleys and groundstrokes in general. His volleys are probably the most improved part of his game, and I cannot wait to see it all come together on grass! No, his net instincts are not great yet, and he knows this, he's said it. But it's still a work in progress. What makes me happy is that he's visibly improving. It won't be wonderful immediately, but there's progress being made, for sure.
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4. Serve- I know he was sacrificing power for accuracy but now it has gotten a bit out of hand before he was sacrificing accuracy for power and he needs to find the right balance. He should never be outaced that badly by anyone especially a clay courter though Acususo had a good serve.
Yes, I agree. Again, let's see what he does on grass. He needs to strike a nice balance. He averages well over 60% first serves for the season and for someone with a serve like his, that is fantastic. He needs to keep working on finding the right balance of power and accuracy and also mixing it up and varying it.
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5. Fitness Mentally/Physically- His fitness physically is pretty good but it can always get better.
Absolutely - and it's obvious that he has put in a lot of off-court work in the past few months. He's never moved better and never looked fitter. So of course, he needs to continue working, but he's undeniably moving in the right direction where this is concerned.
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He needs to work mentally more. It seems like he doesn't have enjoy the game as much and it seems like he has self doubts. He can't close out a match and he can't even win tiebreakers anymore. Tiebreaks are made for bigger serves because they can afford to be aggressive on the opponents service which leads me to my next point. Also Roddick never seems to have a plan besides hitting it hard, but he didn't even do that here at Roland Garros. Roddick needs to be aggressive. He can't be defensive because he doesn't have the fitness for that. Also Roddick doesn't adjust that well during a match. I don't know how many times he hit a second serve or shot to Acususo's backhand when he should have tried hitting them to the forehand to see what it could do.
Well, yes, I think this is where the VAST majority of his problems are. I mean, look what he did in 2003 - he had a FANTASTIC year - with a much less complete game than he did now! But he was striking the right balance of excitement and passion but also calm and business-like... he hasn't had that since the USO more than a little bit here or there (and mostly in small tourneys which are simply not as important). I mean, definitely. I maintain that it's time to see a sports psychologist... it can't hurt.
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6. Service return-why does Roddick stand so far back? He can do it once in a while, but now it has become a habit. Roddick also needs to be handle first serves and second serves better and he should be more aggressive on those instead of just waiting for his own service game because he relies on his service game too much and as shown his service game is starting to become a little unreliable.
He's not naturally as coordinated as someone like Agassi or Nalbandian or whoever, who is able to take the ball really early and be aggressive. He's gotten better, but I agree that he stands too far back sometimes.
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7. Roddick needs to stand closer to the baseline. I realize it was a quick fix with Gilbert and that they were going to work on this in the winter, but Roddick stands too far back which makes his shots less effective.
It wasn't a quick fix with Gilbert - even Brad said yesterday that Andy was used to standing way far back when he was a teenager before he had his growth spurt - it's something he did before Brad and Brad didn't do anything to help this. I remember at the beginning of this season, Dean said that this stepping in and being overall more aggressive off the ground was one of the main things he wanted to work on with Andy. It seems they haven't really successfully worked on this yet. But it's also something that's mostly something natural, the ability to take the ball earlier, and I think it will take Andy a LONG time to improve in this department.

Overall, I'm looking forward to the grass season to see if they can at all use what happened in the clay season and stuff to change it. I know grass is completely differnet from clay, but there are things they can take from it to use to help from now on even on other surfaces. I mean, Dean sits there and writes down what happens almost every single point in every single match. I sure hope that's good for SOMETHING!!!!

But I still maintain that at THIS point, the biggest problem is mental stuff. We know that when he's REALLY confident and REALLY mentally focused, he is very tough to beat, even with an incomplete game. So now that he has a more complete game, if he can get his head all together, he ought to be very tough to beat.

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Excuse me, this is the Roddick forum, could you please take your tennis talk somewhere else?

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Great points, nkhera.

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I hate to bring this thread up, especially with the dissappointing loss he had yesterday and how everyone is just trying to get through it, but here is my opinion on Roddick's game. I haven't watched him too much, but I've made a few conclusions which I would like for you guys to correct me and add your own opinions. Roddick's game needs some serious improvement if he ever wants to be number 1 again. I thought this deserved its own thread because I wanted to get everyone’s opinion. Also I'm not here to bash Roddick as he is my favorite player.

1. Forehand- If you guys have noticed he has started to cut down on his swing because his older swing took a long time to go through. I feel this is a good move, but that he isn't getting the same amount of power as he used to. Now I may be wrong on this but it seems like now since he has shortened his backswing he has lost some of his power because he doesn't have the same racket acceleration as Federer and others. Don't get me wrong he still hits it pretty hard, but I don't know if it is as hard as before. Of course everyone knows placement is sometimes more important than speed but when he was doing really well, he was really blasting the forehand. Please correct me on this if I am wrong. Also if you noticed his forehand in his matches at Roland Garros, they had a lot of topspin, but they weren't that deep and they didn't move through the clay that well like Nadals does. I don't think he had to change his game that much for clay. All he needed was better movement, thinking, and patience because nobody changes their game that much for each surface.
I agree, I think this has contributed to some loss of power. Now, if this were coupled with taking the ball a little earlier, it would be well worth it! And with taking the ball early would come a willingness to stand further inside the court. And indeed, he was doing some of these things in the first two sets against Acacuso. I think when you are scared and under pressure it is very hard not to fall back into old patterns that are comfortable. I know I do it, and I'm sure even pros have this issue. And thus, Andy began to back up, and put himself at a positional disadvantage in the later parts of the match. I really think he can learn from this match, because it is a great lesson in what works well and what doesn't. AFTER the sting wears off, of course!

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2. Backhand- This has always been a problem. I think the problem is Roddick's form. He needs to bend his elbows in order to hit better backhands. Roddick needs to work on his hitting his backhand deeper and hitting his backhand down the line because this really affects the rest of his game especially when he has to keep running around.
I wonder how hard it would be to bend his elbows more at this point. That would help him with power, but of course it is a pretty big change to make. His technique definitely doesn't generate power very effectively. If his technique lessened power but gave him the consistency of Hewitt, that would be one thing. But we all know that is not the case. I can't put my finger on it, but there seems to be some disconnect between his core (torso/abdomen) and the arms, too. I mean, I don't see the energy flowing simply and efficiently from the legs through the trunk through the arms and wrist into the ball, like with Agassi or Safin. Sometimes it really looks like he is just slapping at it.

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3. Volleys-these are improving but they can always get better. I don't know why but Roddick likes to hit shots straight at people to much especially while he is at the net when he should go for the other side. Also his approach shots are sometimes not the greatest and he comes in during bad times.
Not much to add. Some of his choices are getting smarter. He was wise to serve and volley when his opponent was standing far behind the service line and was pulled wide on the return. But when he is nervous, sometimes he comes in behind a very weak shot and totally underestimates the skill and speed of his opponent.

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4. Serve- I know he was sacrificing power for accuracy but now it has gotten a bit out of hand before he was sacrificing accuracy for power and he needs to find the right balance. He should never be outaced that badly by anyone especially a clay courter though Acususo had a good serve.
Actually, I don't think the ace count is so important, as long as he is holding serve well. Which he was, in the first 2.75 sets.

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5. Fitness Mentally/Physically- His fitness physically is pretty good but it can always get better. He needs to work mentally more. It seems like he doesn't have enjoy the game as much and it seems like he has self doubts. He can't close out a match and he can't even win tiebreakers anymore. Tiebreaks are made for bigger serves because they can afford to be aggressive on the opponents service which leads me to my next point. Also Roddick never seems to have a plan besides hitting it hard, but he didn't even do that here at Roland Garros. Roddick needs to be aggressive. He can't be defensive because he doesn't have the fitness for that. Also Roddick doesn't adjust that well during a match. I don't know how many times he hit a second serve or shot to Acususo's backhand when he should have tried hitting them to the forehand to see what it could do.
I don't know what to say about this. He's a mess mentally. However, I still have faith that he can get over these hurdles. A Wimbledon win would do the trick.

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6. Service return-why does Roddick stand so far back? He can do it once in a while, but now it has become a habit. Roddick also needs to be handle first serves and second serves better and he should be more aggressive on those instead of just waiting for his own service game because he relies on his service game too much and as shown his service game is starting to become a little unreliable.
How wise it is to stand back depends a bit on whom is he playing... but I basically agree.

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Agreed --- (see No. 1)

I like your comments. I would also add that he should consider making the topspin lob a bigger part of his repertoire, especially if he is going to stand way back against players who come to the net. So many times he just hit it right into the racket of his opponent, and he was so far back that there was no chance of surprising or confusing the opponent, no matter how hard he hit the ball.

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1. Forehand- If you guys have noticed he has started to cut down on his swing because his older swing took a long time to go through. I feel this is a good move, but that he isn't getting the same amount of power as he used to. Now I may be wrong on this but it seems like now since he has shortened his backswing he has lost some of his power because he doesn't have the same racket acceleration as Federer and others. Don't get me wrong he still hits it pretty hard, but I don't know if it is as hard as before. Of course everyone knows placement is sometimes more important than speed but when he was doing really well, he was really blasting the forehand. Please correct me on this if I am wrong. Also if you noticed his forehand in his matches at Roland Garros, they had a lot of topspin, but they weren't that deep and they didn't move through the clay that well like Nadals does. I don't think he had to change his game that much for clay. All he needed was better movement, thinking, and patience because nobody changes their game that much for each surface.
I think the reason his forehands look less powerful is because of his court position. He stands so far behind the baseline, even after he returns the ball. The amount of topspin he is using is keeping it inside the court, but I don't feel like he's hitting through the ball to give it enough depth.
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2. Backhand- This has always been a problem. I think the problem is Roddick's form. He needs to bend his elbows in order to hit better backhands. Roddick needs to work on his hitting his backhand deeper and hitting his backhand down the line because this really affects the rest of his game especially when he has to keep running around.
I agree about his form. One thing I have noticed is that Andy lifts his head before he is completely through with his stoke, so that causes the ball to fly on him. Another thing is he isn't bending enough. Also, he should really turn into his shot, instead of facing the ball and slapping it, if you get what I'm saying.
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3. Volleys-these are improving but they can always get better. I don't know why but Roddick likes to hit shots straight at people to much especially while he is at the net when he should go for the other side. Also his approach shots are sometimes not the greatest and he comes in during bad times.
I dislike when Andy comes into the net off of a slice. It's very predictable to know that your opponent will get down low and curve it right past you. Imo, when Andy comes into the net he should flatten out his shot, whether it be forehand or backhand; and yes I agree, he should stop hitting to his opponent. I think Andy needs to try drop-volleying and going behind his opponent.
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4. Serve- I know he was sacrificing power for accuracy but now it has gotten a bit out of hand before he was sacrificing accuracy for power and he needs to find the right balance. He should never be outaced that badly by anyone especially a clay courter though Acususo had a good serve.
He's double-faulting too much.
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5. Fitness Mentally/Physically- His fitness physically is pretty good but it can always get better. He needs to work mentally more. It seems like he doesn't have enjoy the game as much and it seems like he has self doubts. He can't close out a match and he can't even win tiebreakers anymore. Tiebreaks are made for bigger serves because they can afford to be aggressive on the opponents service which leads me to my next point. Also Roddick never seems to have a plan besides hitting it hard, but he didn't even do that here at Roland Garros. Roddick needs to be aggressive. He can't be defensive because he doesn't have the fitness for that. Also Roddick doesn't adjust that well during a match. I don't know how many times he hit a second serve or shot to Acususo's backhand when he should have tried hitting them to the forehand to see what it could do.
He needs to continue working on sliding.

Mentally, he's obviously faultering. He goes for too much at bad times. He comes in at horrible times, and after stupid approach shots. He needs a breakthough, a long 5-set match where he wins, not where his opponent chokes(which they seem to not want to do lately).
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6. Service return-why does Roddick stand so far back? He can do it once in a while, but now it has become a habit. Roddick also needs to be handle first serves and second serves better and he should be more aggressive on those instead of just waiting for his own service game because he relies on his service game too much and as shown his service game is starting to become a little unreliable.
Like Deb said, he just doesn't have that great return. He likes time.
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He's double-faulting too much.
He actually doesn't DF that much at all. He averages less than 2 per match which is about right in line with (or less than) most other top players - and their serves are not like his lol. He DFed a lot yesterday but that was unusual for him. He went through 3 matches at Rome without doublefaulting at all, etc.

I think that it's also partially related to his mentality - when he's feeling good, he doesn't DF as much as when he's having trouble with his confidence. Towards that end, sometimes even though he doesn't DF that often, he does it at real bad times. Yesterday wasn't AS bad, what did he have, 5 yesterday? One of them was in the game at 4-5 in the third, but the others didn't really matter. I don't think DFs are a problem unless they come at bad times, and unfortunately a lot of his are. He DFs on break point much more often than I'd like to see. So perhaps it *feels* like he's doublefaulting a lot - because it's sometimes at really inopportune times. He might DF only once or twice a match, which is fine, but if they're both very costly, it feels a lot worse than if he did 6 of them all at 40-0.

I agree with Q about aces... if he's holding and serving effectively, it doesn't matter. Service winners don't count as aces and neither do really easy "good serve-easy putaway" combinations which are also basically just as effective. "Serving well" extends far beyond ace count.

Oh, the slice needs to die. IMO he way overuses it. For me, if he CAN hit a 2-hander, I think he should and try to hit through it. There are certain matchups and particular player styles where he might want to employ it more if his opponent is bothered by that kind of shot but I think that if he's in a good enough position to hit a good backhand he should go 2-handed except once in a while to mix it up. But sometimes he'll do 3, 4 in a row and either he ends up missing one or it leaves an opening for the opponent to hit a winner or whatever. It's good that he's improved the slice, I just think he uses it too often.

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7. Roddick needs to stand closer to the baseline. I realize it was a quick fix with Gilbert and that they were going to work on this in the winter, but Roddick stands too far back which makes his shots less effective.
Oh, yes, it bothers me that he stands so far behind. But, there are some times were he doesn't stand so far behind, or maybe I'm just seeing things But it would definetely help.

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5. Fitness Mentally/Physically- His fitness physically is pretty good but it can always get better. He needs to work mentally more.
YES! HE NEEDS HELP

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4. Serve- I know he was sacrificing power for accuracy but now it has gotten a bit out of hand before he was sacrificing accuracy for power and he needs to find the right balance. He should never be outaced that badly by anyone especially a clay courter though Acususo had a good serve.
I wasn't really paying attention at his serve in the match with Acasuso, but I think he doesn't really have that many aces on clay. Or maybe he doesn't worry about it too much.

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He really didn't take anything seriously. Now he paid the price.

I knew this would happen after having big leads.
Any result was OK for him.
Look at his reaction---he let the 3rd set drag on past the 6th game, then
he continued to stand upright behind the baseline.
AT that time, one should've bent the knees, blasted flat shots hard
while stepping
forward, not moonballing & blocking back lazy shots.
Why is there no desire to watch his opponents' matches
so he could win with ease? Let's face, Gilbert & Dean did not tell
him to work a lot on changing speeds, spins, drop shots & backhand.
Scouting was useless many times. Just like his family, they let him
get complacent.



One of the many break point chances he had, he tried to rip a
one-handed bh.
Other times, he tapped the ball to the center of the court
at 15-30 or 0-30. The opponent should be rushed into an error, but
Andy was satisfied to rally & let him back into the match.
The slice and serve just sat up high for Acasuso to blast back.

Numerous times, he left the court wide open, fooling himself into believing
that his forehand'd produce a winner. Most times, it failed.
The backhand is the best weapon. The next best is the dropshot only after
Andy smacks the forehand to opponents' weak side.
Andy & the coach really don't understand this or they're in denial.
You can't spend the whole day volleying &
blasting serves that have no spin & placement. That doesn't work.
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Wow! With such quality coaches in here I really don't understand what Andy's still doing with Dean!

Seriously, I think you should send this thread to Dean (and/or someone else close to Andy) because it's incredibly professional, with a lot of insight, technical knowledge and excellent advice (not to mention genuine concern for Roddick, the man).

I actually think that if someone with his best interests at heart were to read it, it could make a difference.
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If we knew of a way to get it to someone there, I'd totally do it. When he was with Brad, I emailed Brad a couple times. I don't even remember what about, but yea. And I know other people did too lol

The thing is - if all of us can see these things it's hard to believe that the people around Andy don't. Dean was a player himself and has been a coach forever. Doug, while a trainer, has been doing tennis for many years, his brother was a good player, he's buddy-buddy with PMac and PMac knows all this stuff, and the list goes on... that's what's so confuzzling about it all

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The thing is - if all of us can see these things it's hard to believe that the people around Andy don't.
Exactly. Which makes it all the more infuriating.
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Exactly. Which makes it all the more infuriating.
Yeah, pretty much. sigh. double sigh.

This is from Bud Collins's analysis of the match and US Mens tennis, etc. I think he hits it right on the head.

"Roddick's overall confidence seems to be shaken. He and his coach, Dean Goldfine, need to find a way to discover why he can’t seem to close out big matches anymore. He’s lacking bravado, which he sorely needs to remain competitive at the top."

whole thing is here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7994702/ if you're interested.

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bunch of important stuff....*snip*
Excellent post nkhera and thank you for bringing it up. Unfortunately my head exploded from the deep thoughts emanating from my brain matter and I must now take an asprin and go sleep on it. I will add my response later.

In the meantime, could somebody please be a good little biddy and post some nude pics of Andy? This forum has been railroaded by too much tennis talk lately and we need to get back on track. It also helps me to think more clearly. Thanks!

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So, let me ask those of you that have posted, in all seriousness, would you really want Doug Spreen to read this thread?

Here's a nude photo for you Tangy...

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Thanks for the article, Deb! I'll read it tomorrow (need some sleep, lol )

Great post, Tangy! We do need to unwind, don't we?
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I suppose I can only speak for my own posts, but I absolutely would, Fee. I mean like I said, it's hard to believe that they don't already know this stuff, but yeah...

What worries the most is the mental stuff. Yea, there are parts of his game that need improvement, but when he's really strong and passionate and into it mentally, it doesn't seem to matter nearly as much!! As I said in my first long post, he has had better results with a MUCH less complete game than he does now. Everyone seems to see the mental struggle he is going through right now. We don't know WHY, but we can all see it, the press can, the commentators can, even Andy seems to realize it, but I really think they have to DO something about it. It'd be a waste of his prime playing years to wait around and plug away and hope that he turns a corner at some point We know he can do better than what he's doing now and we want to see him realize his vast potential. If this thread got any of them to even think of one thing that ended up being helpful to Andy and his team, then I certainly think it would be worth it.

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